Good news: Pelosi says she’s not for abortion on demand

posted at 8:41 pm on January 20, 2016 by Matt Vespa

Roll Call’s Melinda Henneberger was able to get something out of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): the California congresswoman isn’t for abortion on demand. Yet, it’s a piece of Bizarro Theater that captures how abortion has become the lynchpin for the Democratic Party. Moreover, you decide whether she thinks there should be limits on abortion (via Roll Call) [emphasis mine]:

 

Asked about the 20-week ban, Pelosi answered, “Let me say this; I’m a Catholic, a devout, practicing Catholic. I take great comfort in my faith, come from a very Catholic family, largely pro-life. I’ve had five children and the day my fifth child was born, my oldest turned 6, so I’m with the program in terms of the Catholic Church. However, if there’s one issue that really — I try to be dispassionate about how we find solutions — if there’s one issue that really is almost inflaming to women, is when politicians say we will influence the size and timing of your family; we will decide what is right for you. …

Most of those cases that we hear beyond 20 weeks are painful for the families — painful for the families — but that’s not up to politicians in Washington, D.C., to decide; that’s between women and their doctors.”

So, lawmakers should never set any limits on abortion?

No,’’ she said, “I don’t believe in abortion on demand, I don’t believe in abortion on demand. I’m talking about the health of the mother and the child and this is not a decision that a politician should be making. This is about a woman’s judgment. This is about respect — respect — for women. I sometimes wonder if the Republican men who are here even know what’s going on in their own families, because the fact is that contraception and birth control is something that is used — I don’t believe that abortion is a form of birth control or contraception — and if you want to diminish the number of abortions in our country, you should love contraception, but they don’t.”

Raising her finger in admonition, she said, “It’s really important not to change the subject back to abortion; they don’t believe in contraception and family planning. They don’t believe in it.”

Now, Pelosi seems to be doing two things, and failing at them miserably. Deflecting on the abortion question to tear into Republicans for their supposed lack of support on contraception and birth control, while coming off as incredibly rude and pompous regarding the remarks about the sexual histories of her fellow colleagues’ families on the Hill. Pelosi can’t convince everyone that the pill or condoms are like nature’s candy, so she has to unnecessarily put Republicans’ families in the crosshairs. Aren’t families supposed to be off-limits, especially with this nonsense? At the same time, this whole issue is irrelevant; I’ll come back to that in a second.

Second, she’s against abortion on demand? The former speaker found herself under siege by all sides with these remarks. First, this weak sauce didn’t faze Ashley McGuire of the Catholic Association:

“In a stunning interview with Melinda Henneberger, Nancy Pelosi manages to insult women and the American intelligence at once. She claims to simultaneously oppose any restrictions on abortion whatsoever and oppose abortion on demand. Her position is completely out of step with the average American, who opposes late-term abortion and taxpayer funding for abortion. Throughout the interview, she repeatedly insults women with the sexist, tired and statistically inaccurate assumption that women automatically support abortion by nature of their gender, especially her extremist view of it. In fact, the overwhelming majority opposes her support for abortions after 20 weeks. Nancy Pelosi needs some more recent polling and some newspapers from this millennium.”

Even NARAL Pro-Choice America wasn’t happy about those remarks since she gave air time to those “twisted GOP talking points”:

“At a time when our rights are under daily attack in the halls of Congress, on the campaign trail, in statehouses and in the courts, now more than ever, we need our champions to speak with a clear and strong voice in support of our legal right to abortion,’’ said the statement from NARAL senior vice president Sasha Bruce. “Unfortunately, Leader Pelosi’s recent comments fall well short of this standard.

“The Leader should stop using twisted GOP talking points about abortion and birth control. We don’t know women who demand abortion or use abortion as birth control. We do know women who make thoughtful decisions about how and if they want to start a family, and who need access to all reproductive-health care services, including abortion. We’re confident the Leader does too, which makes her comments all the more troubling.

“Time and time again, Leader Pelosi has stood up for women and our reproductive rights. But at a moment when so much is at stake, her comments are particularly disappointing and ill-advised.”

Pelosi’s office attempted to clarify:

“Roe v. Wade affirmed a woman’s right to make her own reproductive health care decisions. Leader Pelosi was referring to the fact that abortions later in pregnancy are not guaranteed under Roe v. Wade, with limited exceptions such as protecting the mother’s life or health. In an attempt to chip away at a woman’s right to choose, House Republicans voted to impose a nationwide ban on abortions after 20 weeks with no meaningful exception to protect the health of the mother.”

Yet, let’s not kid ourselves, even if exceptions like rape, incest, and life of the mother were included in a new bill banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy–Democrats would still vote against it. There’s simply too much money, grassroots support, and other campaign resources at stake for the Democrats if they anger these pro-abortion zealots who probably aren’t bothered by abortion on demand; they want it to be taxpayer-funded at the very least. The former position just isn’t politically ripe yet, given that 60 percent of American women support banning abortions after 20 weeks.

Right now, Planned Parenthood is gearing up for war with Republicans this year. After months of negative press and congressional hearings, the nation’s largest provider of abortions is going on the offensive with a $20 million effort to help pro-abortion candidates win this November. To help them in this effort, Planned Parenthood, who we all know is one of the many groups allied with the Democratic Party, has tapped Everytown for Gun Safety’s political director to bolster their chances of electoral success (via Politico):

Dawn Laguens, executive director of Planned Parenthood Action Fund, said the group is focused not only on the presidential race but also on key Senate races.

“Frankly, the radical nature of the Republican field and primary is introducing some real dynamics in the Senate races … that I think some people didn’t think were necessarily going to be there, putting people like [New Hampshire Republican Sen. Kelly] Ayotte in a really tough spot,” Laguens said.

Planned Parenthood intends to actively engage in key battleground states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Hampshire, Colorado and Nevada. Laguens said the group will spend at least $20 million on its political operation this year. In 2012, Planned Parenthood spent $15 million on the election.

The women’s health care group is also shoring up its in-house talent, bringing on Matt Burgess, national political director for Everytown for Gun Safety, as its political director. Laguens said Burgess was an attractive hire because he has a history working on women’s issues — he formerly worked in EMILY’s List’s political department — and a background working in key battleground states. Burgess managed Democratic Sen. Al Franken’s 2014 campaign in Minnesota and also ran Maggie Hassan’s campaign for governor in New Hampshire. Hassan, a Democrat, is now running against Ayotte for Senate in the Granite State.

So, they’re coming folks. The question is can Republicans run a virtually gaffe-free cycle, like the 2014 midterms, or will they screw up royally in a painful replay of 2012? It’s entirely possible.

Last note: The issue of contraception isn’t one plaguing Republicans. As Guy noted during the liberal post-Hobby Lobby hysteria in 2014, there is almost zero controversy regarding the moral acceptability of contraception with Republican voters. To channel Donald Trump, “tremendous” majorities of Democrats, Republicans and Independents (90/87/89 percent respectively) find using birth control to be perfectly okay. Do you know what doesn’t score high marks? Abortion. Twenty-two percent of Republicans and 44 percent of Independents don’t find legalized infanticide to be morally* acceptable. Of course, 52 percent of Democrats are fine with it. Though the number of self-identified Democrats has dipped to record lows.

*Yes, the majority opposes overturning Roe v. Wade, but similar majorities support restrictions on the procedure, specifically a ban on both second and third trimester abortions.


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Holy cow that picture!

And I was eating too!

Paperclips on January 20, 2016 at 8:43 PM

isn’t this about 2 or 3 weeks old?I’m just saying.

wolly4321 on January 20, 2016 at 8:46 PM

File this under the same truth-rating as: if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor

Stoic Patriot on January 20, 2016 at 8:47 PM

How does she feel about postpartum abortion because I’m changing my position.

RickB on January 20, 2016 at 8:49 PM

She doesn’t mean she’s against abortion on demand, she just wants a professional to be involved in this “very personal decision”. So you don’t have to make a demand in Nancy’s world, you just make an appointment.

virgo on January 20, 2016 at 8:51 PM

Don’t stand next to Empress Pelosi if there’s a lightning storm.

rbj on January 20, 2016 at 8:53 PM

She’s for abortion “just because I feel like it.”

CurtZHP on January 20, 2016 at 8:58 PM

She’s still alive?

swamp_yankee on January 20, 2016 at 8:59 PM

As Pelosi’s bleating about being “with the program in terms of the Catholic Church” by having 5 kids, apparently, I hear her silently saying “Five kids- too damn many. I wish I had been able to make a thoughtful choice a few times”?

To folks of an age young enough that their moms aborted their brothers or sisters… does it bother you a little bit that you won the butchery lottery and your siblings didn’t?

And moms who did it- how frankly can you face your kids?

Are you honest and admit to them “Yeah, well, if I’d gotten pregnant with you when I was out of work, you’d have been aborted too”?

Dolce Far Niente on January 20, 2016 at 8:59 PM

As a so called devout Catholic. Her observations are beyond pathetic..,..

Indiana Jim on January 20, 2016 at 9:00 PM

“Let me say this; I’m a Catholic, a devout, practicing Catholic.

Nope, nope, and nope.

SailorMark on January 20, 2016 at 9:06 PM

Harry would support her but hes on the treadmill for a moment.

MrMoe on January 20, 2016 at 9:10 PM

Can we just skip the abortion issue during the elections? It has been a losing issue for Pubs. We couldn’t even get the Pubs. to defund PP. Yes, it’s infanticide and no Christian should support abortion. But it is not a political issue. It’s a moral issue. And until we get morality back, it is not going to be settled politically. Hell, even some of the big Christian denominations(ELCA for instance) support abortion.

they lie on January 20, 2016 at 9:12 PM

War on Women
Back to the 1950s
Popery

Glenn Jericho on January 20, 2016 at 9:13 PM

NEWSFLASH

Nancy pelosi lies. Again.

The funny thing is she expects people to believe her.

Andy__B on January 20, 2016 at 9:17 PM

Changed the headline for you –

Good news: Pelosi says she’s not for abortion on demand

Good news: Some old forgotten hag says blah, blah, blah about blah, blah, blah

swamp_yankee on January 20, 2016 at 9:20 PM

“Time and time again, Leader Pelosi has stood up for women and our reproductive rights. But at a moment when so much is at stake, her comments are particularly disappointing and ill-advised.”

Hmmm…Nancy Pelosi’s comments in support of abortion do seem to be weaker than they have been in the past.

Perhaps Pelosi is starting to pay closer attention to the annual Walk for Life West Coast that will bring 50,000+ pro-life walkers to the center of Pelosi’s Congressional District in San Francisco on Saturday January 23rd (3 days from today!)

The Walk for Life is an amazingly well organized event including a 1.2 mile (Flat – no hills!) walk along Market Street.

Learn more about the walk and related events at the link below(including videos of tens of thousands of pro-life walkers to prove they really were in San Francisco!)


Info Faire

11:00AM to 12:30PM – Civic Center Plaza, San Francisco

Walk for Life Main Event

12:30 – 1:30 – Civic Center Plaza, San Francisco

Rally: 12:30 to 1:30PM

Walk: 1:30PM

Speakers include:

Emmanuel, David Daleiden, Uju Ekeocha, and Pastor Clenard Childress

http://www.walkforlifewc.com/event-info/event-schedule/


If you are anywhere near San Francisco on Saturday, come out and join the Walk for Life!

wren on January 20, 2016 at 9:24 PM

Glen Beck also doesn’t support abortion on demand.

I, on the other hand, have no idea what the phrase even means.

Magicjava on January 20, 2016 at 9:26 PM

Magicjava on January 20, 2016 at 9:26 PM

It means that at any moment now the liberals are all going to demand we abort them.

Andy__B on January 20, 2016 at 9:29 PM

someone sent me an e-mail a while back showing she was miss lube job 1955. she was in some cheesy auto garage in high heels.

even then you could see she was brain damaged and deranged.

acyl72 on January 20, 2016 at 9:35 PM

Nanzi probably wants the homicide performed automatically, by machine, in camps.

viking01 on January 20, 2016 at 9:40 PM

Yikes! “Stretch Pelosi” and I am supposed to believe anything that comes out of her pie hole?

tbear44 on January 20, 2016 at 11:07 PM

Dennis Miller was right……

georgekaplan on January 20, 2016 at 11:43 PM

Evil personified, thy Name is Nancy.

bigjacket on January 20, 2016 at 11:59 PM

isn’t this about 2 or 3 weeks old?I’m just saying.

wolly4321 on January 20, 2016 at 8:46 PM

Came to comment just this.

+1

CivilDiscourse on January 21, 2016 at 12:22 AM

“Let me say this; I’m a Catholic, a devout, practicing Catholic.

Nope, nope, and nope.

SailorMark on January 20, 2016 at 9:06 PM

I love when commenters play the religious purity or purge game: “I’m a true X (Catholic, Christian, Evangelical, usually) by golly, and let me tell you, YOU’RE no true X!”

It’s almost as if they believe they have the right to inject themselves into others’ spiritual/faith lives. Purity or purge is the best game going at HA.

CivilDiscourse on January 21, 2016 at 12:28 AM

We don’t know women who demand abortion or use abortion as birth control. We do know women who make thoughtful decisions about how and if they want to start a family, and who need access to all reproductive-health care services, including abortion.

If abortion is one of the tools in your toolbox for “how and if you want to start a family”, guess what, you’re using abortion as birth control.

How blind can these people be to make these statements in the same breath and not be keenly aware of the blatant contradiction?

The Schaef on January 21, 2016 at 12:29 AM

“I love when commenters play the religious purity or purge game: “I’m a true X (Catholic, Christian, Evangelical, usually) by golly, and let me tell you, YOU’RE no true X!”
It’s almost as if they believe they have the right to inject themselves into others’ spiritual/faith lives. Purity or purge is the best game going at HA.”

Um, no, the sanctity of life is a central tenet of the Catholic faith, and their theological position on abortion is as particular as it is firm.

This isn’t like posting in a forum. If you’re devout and practicing, you’re abiding by the edicts. People get excommunicated for things like this.

The Schaef on January 21, 2016 at 12:34 AM

It’s as if a massive invisible force were trying as hard as it could to pull her face off the back of her head.

Kenosha Kid on January 21, 2016 at 1:00 AM

This:

I’m with the program in terms of the Catholic Church.

and this:

they don’t believe in contraception and family planning. They don’t believe in it.

…don’t work together. The teachings of the Catholic Church (with which she is supposedly in accord) don’t allow the use of any type of contraceptives (except for the rhythm method). There’s a bit of cognitive dissonance there.

And as for that second statement, paging Cory Gardner. According to St. Nancy, he is to be excommunicated from the Republican Party for not only supporting birth control, but also making it available over-the-counter. I seriously doubt that any discussion of this on the non-Fox media will note that, however, because it doesn’t help propel the RWoW trope.

Horologium on January 21, 2016 at 1:58 AM

Twenty-two percent of Republicans and 44 percent of Independents don’t find legalized infanticide to be morally* acceptable.

The word “don’t” should be removed from that sentence. See http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2016/1/13/32.png for the table.

J.S.K. on January 21, 2016 at 1:58 AM

So, Nancy, for all the women who have abortions after 20 weeks, it’s only for HEALTH REASONS?

OK, got it.

Mother124 on January 21, 2016 at 7:57 AM

Anyone notice Gallup’s numbers for Suicide and Doctor Assisted suicide? It’s not okay if you kill yourself, but it’s okay if a doctor helps? Who are these people?

InterestedObserver on January 21, 2016 at 8:38 AM

Pelosi says she’s not for abortion on demand…

…but can’t come up with a single reason why one should be denied.

They won’t admit it, but I think leftists deep down don’t think a child should be considered a “person” until the birth certificate has been signed. If the government hasn’t declared it to be a child, it’s research material or medical waste or “a fetus” or whatever. Just a clump of cells, a pile of goo.

You see, that way anyone who takes themselves off the government dependency grid declares themselves to be an unperson, so you don’t have to treat them as if they have rights and stuff. Think of all those rednecks and hillbillies leftists have been wanting for decades to imprison or wipe out completely for daring to be rednecks and hillbillies. The mere idea doubtless makes some leftists salivate.

Leftist power politics is long term. The abortion issue is only partly about abortion itself. It’s also about gender politics/identity politics, and how the balance of authority vs. accountability changes in accordance with status in “protected” groups. And it’s also about the circumstances under which a human can be denied all of its rights, up to and including the right to live.

And because leftist power politics is long term (see welfare and healthcare for examples of this), I wouldn’t even bet that abortion is the primary point of this whole strategy. 50/50 it’s completely incidental.

GrumpyOldFart on January 21, 2016 at 8:45 AM

Pelosi lies and is in favor of killing unborn children. That is not what I call being a devout Catholic (another one of her lies).

sadatoni on January 21, 2016 at 11:14 AM

Like 0bama, Reid & Schultz, Pelosi is a deranged and deluded psychotically evil, vile, immoral bigot a civilized country would insure was doing jail time or execute for treason; no danger of that here.

russedav on January 21, 2016 at 11:19 AM

If the Catholic “church” really cared for Pelosi’s spiritual shepherding they’d excommunicate her as Paul commanded in 1 Corinthians 5: 2 And ye are puffed up, and did not rather mourn, THAT HE THAT HAD DONE THIS DEED MIGHT BE TAKEN AWAY FROM AMONG YOU. 3 For I verily, being absent in body but present in spirit, have already as though I were present judged him that hath so wrought this thing, 4 in the name of our Lord Jesus, ye being gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

russedav on January 21, 2016 at 11:25 AM

God help you, Nancy. You are in grave danger. Repent. Your time is getting short.

There are two Ways, one of Life and one of Death, and there is a great difference between the two Ways…

the second commandment of the teaching is this: “Thou shalt do no murder; thou shalt not commit adultery”; thou shalt not commit sodomy; thou shalt not commit fornication; thou shalt not steal; thou shalt not use magic; thou shalt not use philtres; thou shalt not procure abortion, nor commit infanticide; “thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s goods”; thou shalt not commit perjury, “thou shalt not bear false witness”; thou shalt not speak evil; thou shalt not bear malice. Thou shalt not be double-minded nor double-tongued, for to be double-tongued is the snare of death. Thy speech shall not be false nor vain, but completed in action. Thou shalt not be covetous nor extortionate, nor a hypocrite, nor malignant, nor proud; thou shalt make no evil plan against thy neighbour. Thou shalt hate no man; but some thou shalt reprove, and for some shalt thou pray, and some thou shalt love more than thine own life… ~The Didache c. 60-90A.D. (The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles)

Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.“~ Our Lord, Jesus Christ.

Repent, Nancy.

pannw on January 21, 2016 at 11:40 AM

Listening to Pelosi is the intellectual equivalent of putting your face in a tray full of soiled kitty litter and inhaling deeply until you retch.

rasqual on January 21, 2016 at 11:55 PM