Watch live: British parliament to debate whether to bar Trump from the UK at 11:30 ET on C-SPAN

posted at 11:21 am on January 18, 2016 by Allahpundit

Suspense mounts: Will one of America’s closest allies vote to ban from its soil one of the four or five people in the world who stands a chance of becoming the next president of the United States? I’m thinking, “no, stupid,” but it’ll be fun to watch Trumpmania take over another country for a day. Soon France will start bickering over Trump, then Germany, and eventually the contagion will spread to Russia and the Far East. Not until the farthest-flung corners of the planet are arguing over whether he’s a brave utterer of unpleasant truths or a crass phony demagoging blue-collar anxieties will Trumpmania finally have satisfied its global ambitions.

Here’s the UK petition that started it all. Trump responded to it two weeks ago with — what else? — a threat:

“Any action to restrict travel would force The Trump Organization to immediately end these and all future investments we are currently contemplating in the United Kingdom. Westminster would send a terrible message to the world that the United Kingdom opposes free speech and has no interest in attracting inward investment,” it read.

“This would also alienate the many millions of United States citizens who wholeheartedly support Mr. Trump and have made him the forerunner by far in the 2016 presidential election. Many people now agree with Mr. Trump that there is a serious problem that must be resolved. This can only be achieved if we are willing to discuss these tough issues openly and honestly.”

Assuming that actually banning Trump is off the table, what’s the point of today’s debate? Those who follow British politics regularly would know better than I, but I assume that it’s mainly about making Cameron’s government uncomfortable — not only will they have to grudgingly defend admitting Trump to the UK so as not to create awkwardness with Americans but they’ll have to distinguish the decision not to ban Trump with previous decisions to ban other controversial speakers. One Muslim MP from Labour is eager for that discussion:

Friends of Tulip Siddiq, the MP leading the campaign to ban Donald Trump from Britain, have said she will be “tearing” his reputation to “shreds” during today’s parliamentary debate on the proposed ban…

Ms. Siddiq is the niece of Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina. She campaigned for Barack Obama in the 2008 Presidential Election and is one of the MPs who helped the hard-left anti-Israel Jeremy Corby become the Labour leader.

She told the Telegraph today: “The law needs to be applied to everyone equally and the Home Office has previous in banning hate preachers engaging in rhetoric similar to that of Trump…

“The real question is ‘Why should we make an exception for billionaire politicians?’. We should not.

Fun fact: On the very day that MPs will decide whether Trump’s comments about Muslims and immigrants should make him persona non grata in the UK, a story is on the wires about another politician with an international profile arguing that Muslim immigrants who refuse to learn English should be deported from his country. No, it’s not Nigel Farage. It’s — ta da — David Cameron. Actual quote: “If you are not able to speak English, not able to integrate, you may find therefore you have challenges understanding what your identity is and therefore you could be more susceptible to the extremist message.” Sounds Trump-y. Maybe Cameron should be barred from Great Britain too.

C-SPAN will air the debate live at 11:30 ET. If you’re not near a TV, you can watch online here or at Parliament’s live-streaming channel. Exit question: if Parliament did bar Trump from the UK, how would that shake out for Trump politically here at home? For Trump fans, I assume, it would be treated as further enhancement of his nationalist cred. Leave it to the squishy Brits not to be able to handle the distinctly American truthbombs Trump is dropping, right? But that doesn’t really answer my question, as Trump fans treat everything as a new reason to love him more. He could spend an hour at a rally beatboxing into his mic and the spin the next day would be “he’s not playing by their rules!” What I’m asking is, how would the rest of the electorate react? Would he gain votes in Iowa from undecideds who take offense at the idea that worrying about Mexican rapists is some banworthy thoughtcrime in the UK or would he lose votes from Republicans who worry that a man who can alienate longtime friends even before he’s been elected probably isn’t a guy we should nominate?


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So who should Trump appoint as Ambassador to the UK?

kcewa on January 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

When liberals want to ban Trump it’s just more proof that he must be doing something right.

cajunpatriot on January 18, 2016 at 12:39 PM

ANY OF YOU LUCKY DOGS WHO HAVE DIRECTV CAN WATCH THE DEBATE ON CHANNEL 350…ANY TAKERS? HMMMMMMMMMM????

POST TIME 12:40PM EST

timberline on January 18, 2016 at 12:39 PM

So who should Trump appoint as Ambassador to the UK?

kcewa on January 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

Ted Nugent

cajunpatriot on January 18, 2016 at 12:40 PM

If they ban him will they unban him after he is president?

Texas Zombie on January 18, 2016 at 12:33 PM

If I’m Trump, I don’t know how much I’d want to travel to England or Europe at the rate they’re importing current and would be terrorists over there. Especially as they harbor known clerics who scream about blowing up Western infidels.

nextgen_repub on January 18, 2016 at 12:40 PM

If they ban him will they unban him after he is president?

Texas Zombie on January 18, 2016 at 12:33 PM

If a vote is held, it will be non-binding. The final decision will come to the PM. Cameron has already gone on record opposing what Trump said, but also said it didn’t rise to the point of banning him from entry.

What’s interesting is the angst over Trump wanting to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the US in order to improve vetting them to ensure they aren’t jihadi’s – but the lack of angst inside of Britain over the actions of Muslims regarding their refusal to assimilate, their push for Sharia, their tolerance of scandals like Rotherham- and the Labour Party’s role in enabling them and covering them up, the ‘no-go zones’, etc.

Dhimmi’s will be dhimmi’s and only fools embrace ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’.

Athos on January 18, 2016 at 12:40 PM

Ted Nugent

cajunpatriot on January 18, 2016 at 12:40 PM

LOL

kcewa on January 18, 2016 at 12:41 PM

cajunpatriot on January 18, 2016 at 12:40 PM

Good one.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2016 at 12:42 PM

Sounds like when the idiots in our Congress had their show trial of Boosh to “convict” him of wad crimes.

njrob on January 18, 2016 at 12:42 PM

Ehhh, war autocorrected to wad. Whatever. Makes as much sense as what the leftards did.

njrob on January 18, 2016 at 12:43 PM

What dickery

SpongePuppy on January 18, 2016 at 12:43 PM

Big banks brace for oil loans to implode
by Matt Egan @mattmegan5

Now that the oil glut has caused prices to crash below $30 a barrel, turmoil is rippling through the energy industry and souring many of those loans. Dozens of oil companies have gone bankrupt and the ones that haven’t are feeling enough financial stress to slash spending and cut tens of thousands of jobs.

This is one of the factors expected to drive a tidal wave of economic migration, one that will make the current ‘migrant crisis’ look trifling by comparison, from developing nations, including those from Africa and the Middle East who have been long dependent on oil revenues as the mainstay of their economies.

Either western nations, already having difficulty providing employment for their own citizens, find means to persuade the new economic migrants to stay in their own nations, or face seeing their systems buckle and cultures shattered as they’re overwhelmed.

thatsafactjack on January 18, 2016 at 12:43 PM

GO ON HOME BRITISH SOLDIERS

kcewa on January 18, 2016 at 12:44 PM

So who should Trump appoint as Ambassador to the UK?

kcewa on January 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

Mark Steyn

Schadenfreude on January 18, 2016 at 12:45 PM

ppl keep forgetting we fought two wars with them.

djohn669 on January 18, 2016 at 11:56 AM

UM … how many wars did we fight AGAINST them?

Hint: the number is exactly twice as many as we fought with them.

guitarman67 on January 18, 2016 at 12:47 PM

Either western nations, already having difficulty providing employment for their own citizens, find means to persuade the new economic migrants to stay in their own nations, or face seeing their systems buckle and cultures shattered as they’re overwhelmed.

thatsafactjack on January 18, 2016 at 12:43 PM

For those of the left, who can’t wait for another crisis to not let go to waste, Cloward-Piven is a feature, not a bug.

Athos on January 18, 2016 at 12:49 PM

Not worth banning, but he’s a clown.

rubberneck on January 18, 2016 at 12:49 PM

No Trump but plenty of Muslim immigrants and more on the way?

Sounds like a a GOPe paradise.

Redstone on January 18, 2016 at 12:51 PM

Oil crash cut my pay and killed over 86,000 jobs
by Matt Egan @mattmegan5

This provides some insight into what’s happening as a direct result of the drop in oil prices.

Oil service providers have been among the hardest hit by the oil plunge. Schlumberger, Baker Hughes (BHI) and Halliburton have slashed nearly 46,000 U.S. jobs, according to Challenger, meaning they account for more than half of the headcount reductions by themselves.

Other major energy companies to disclose mass layoffs of at least 1,000 include Chevron (CVX), Nabors Industries (NBR), Weatherford International (WFT). Companies involved in businesses in related fields have also cut jobs, including Caterpillar (CAT), General Electric (GE) and U.S. Steel (X).

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Read, the CEO of Swift Resources, is bracing for more pink slips ahead. That includes mass layoffs from the likes of Big Oil companies like BP (BP), Chevron, Shell (RDSA) and ExxonMobil (XOM) that have so far publicly avoided making deep cuts.

thatsafactjack on January 18, 2016 at 12:52 PM

The UK is essentially worthless on the the world stage today. They are infested with leftists and muzzies. Who cares what they do?

Mr. Arrogant on January 18, 2016 at 12:52 PM

What’s happening in the the Muslim-laden UK is more proof that we are making the right choice in Trump.

Trump’s GOP competition:

Cruz Rejects Trump’s Muslim Immigration Ban

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cruz-on-trumps-proposed-muslim-ban-no-thats-not-my-policy/article/2577822

Beyond his evangelical base, electability is also a question with Cruz. I think Trump hits the practical sweet spot of getting the things we won’t done in combination with electability.

On Cruz’s electability, a couple points:

The main negatives on Cruz aren’t widely known. For instance, Cruz’s no exceptions for rape or the life of the mother will hit hard with suburban and women voters. Plus Cruz’s de fact 16% National Sales Tax (VAT) will NOT be popular with SENIORS and the working class, as it will dramatically reduce the purchasing power of their money:

Senior Citizens Are Going to Hate Ted Cruz’s Tax Plan

Seniors are the most reliable voting bloc!

anotherJoe on January 18, 2016 at 12:52 PM

guitarman67 on January 18, 2016 at 12:47 PM

We fought 2 against them, I am betting them politicians weren’t allowed in England at the time.

djohn669 on January 18, 2016 at 12:52 PM

Suspense mounts: Will one of America’s closest allies vote to ban from its soil one of the four or five people in the world who stands a chance of becoming the next president of the United States? I’m thinking, “no, stupid,” but it’ll be fun to watch Trumpmania take over another country for a day. Soon France will start bickering over Trump, then Germany, and eventually the contagion will spread to Russia and the Far East. Not until the farthest-flung corners of the planet are arguing over whether he’s a brave utterer of unpleasant truths or a crass phony demagoging blue-collar anxieties will Trumpmania finally have satisfied its global ambitions.

I don’t care who you are or what you think about him but that’s just Allahpundit at his best.

Cleombrotus on January 18, 2016 at 12:53 PM

Fine, we’ll keep Trump out of England if you swear to keep Piers Morgan out of the USA.

Hank_Scorpio on January 18, 2016 at 12:56 PM

If Donald Trump were to actually become President of the United States (God forbid) I suspect he would be regarded as a sort of fascist and shunned by most world leaders, and likely barred from entering many countries.

Ringo on January 18, 2016 at 12:58 PM

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North Dakota was booming until recently and the communities there were doing a brisk business. It also became the focus of economic opportunism in the form of illegal aliens arriving to compete for jobs with locals.

Now that the boom has gone bust those communities are now saddled with the liability to provide medical care for those illegal aliens who are now unemployed and education for their children who are enrolled in local schools, as well as the resources necessary to police the additional individuals present in the community. This presents a drain on community resources in an area with now very sparse employment opportunities and limited revenue opportunities.

thatsafactjack on January 18, 2016 at 1:00 PM

Do they know that they are helping Trump?

I watched some BBC TV debate between Milos Yuiaisdbf(?) (A gay anti PC activist who writes fro Breitbart) and a bunch of British PC agitators. He was smart but the other’s were stone cold stupid. Special stupid. And they all had English accents so , with my American hollywood trained assumptions about English people all being smart, it was disconcerting.

BoxHead1 on January 18, 2016 at 1:05 PM

If Donald Trump were to actually become President of the United States (God forbid) I suspect he would be regarded as a sort of fascist and shunned by most world leaders, and likely barred from entering many countries.

Ringo on January 18, 2016 at 12:58 PM

No.

Are you twelve?

hillbillyjim on January 18, 2016 at 1:08 PM

thatsafactjack on January 18, 2016 at 12:09 PM

Phew. Talk about focusing the mind.

Cleombrotus on January 18, 2016 at 1:11 PM

Ill bet Trump just locked in the Boston Irish vote.
LMAO!

He has my vote, and he’s warming to many of us here in Boston, yes.

Fuck the British and fuck Oliver Cromwell.

Freeloader on January 18, 2016 at 1:11 PM

So, is he banned?

Or are they still babbling?

BallisticBob on January 18, 2016 at 1:12 PM

Interesting corollary in the Headlines.

Cleombrotus on January 18, 2016 at 1:17 PM

Philip Davies – Conservative(Shipley), is roasting the PC crowd with simple common sense while outlining and highlighting their blatant hypocrisy…Delicious!

tanked59 on January 18, 2016 at 1:18 PM

Leave it to the squishy Brits not to be able to handle the distinctly American truthbombs Trump is dropping, right?

What the what? No need to leave anything to the Brits, you are doing a perfectly splendid job at it yourself. Or does one really need to point to your dishonest and irrational anti-Trump diatribe you posted.

oscarwilde on January 18, 2016 at 1:19 PM

So who should Trump appoint as Ambassador to the UK?

kcewa on January 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

Mark Steyn

Schadenfreude on January 18, 2016 at 12:45 PM

Love Steyn but there’s a better option: Michael Savage (because Britain already banned him.)

BKennedy on January 18, 2016 at 1:22 PM

So who should Trump appoint as Ambassador to the UK?

kcewa on January 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

Piers Morgan

BarefootinTN on January 18, 2016 at 1:22 PM

The Brits made the mistake years ago with their open immigration policy and now find they are in the point of no return situation. One out of seven children born in GW today are named Mohammad. Go figure .
Trump knows more than they can deal with.

idesign on January 18, 2016 at 1:24 PM

If I were Trump, on inauguration day I’d give a speech and say, “Oh and by the way, England, good luck in the next World War, you’re on your own.”

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 1:27 PM

Fine, we’ll keep Trump out of England if you swear to keep Piers Morgan out of the USA.

Hank_Scorpio on January 18, 2016 at 12:56 PM

Sounds like a deal. But they still owe us. Look at how many years we had to put up with John Lennon.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 18, 2016 at 1:49 PM

The Brit’s have lost what little was left of their minds.

oscarwilde on January 18, 2016 at 1:49 PM

We fought 2 against them, I am betting them politicians weren’t allowed in England at the time.

djohn669 on January 18, 2016 at 12:52 PM

Actually, the number is 4: War for Independence; Northwest Indian War; War of 1812; and the Bombardment of Greytown.

Yeh, that last one was a bit obscure, but still technically an armed conflict with Great Britain.

Anyway, the point is, we split up for a reason and had a bit of a rocky and extended break up. Kind of like when you and your ex think about getting back together, and then you realize all the things that annoyed you before and drove you apart. Yeh, kind of like that….

guitarman67 on January 18, 2016 at 1:53 PM

the Brits are a bunch of no nothing, in-breds

WestportSC on January 18, 2016 at 1:55 PM

I’m watching C-Span. Those Brits are idiots. One just referred to the GOP as the party of Lincoln and FDR. Lolz.

(They’re also lying about what Trump actually said about banning people).

WhirledPeas on January 18, 2016 at 1:56 PM

The real issue of course is that many Brits agree with Trump.

Not the members of parliament, but the regular folks who don’t like seeing their country transformed in such a negative way.

That’s why they don’t want Trump to enter, so that similar ideas don’t catch on in the UK.

Redstone on January 18, 2016 at 1:59 PM

The Brits have a much larger problem than Donald Trump…The number one boys name in the UK is Mohammed…

PatriotRider on January 18, 2016 at 2:10 PM

I appreciate the fact that Brits probably don’t know all the intricacies of American law, but that Scottish MP lady thinks Trump can amend the Constitution on his own if he became President.

DarthBrooks on January 18, 2016 at 2:15 PM

It all sounds so much better when debated in British.

wbcoleman on January 18, 2016 at 2:21 PM

It all sounds so much better when debated in British.

wbcoleman on January 18, 2016 at 2:21 PM

Tragically, it also makes the British Parliament look like it is comprised of the stupidest people in Briton.

oscarwilde on January 18, 2016 at 2:24 PM

The Ayes had it – – so that means Parliament recommends that the Home Office bans Trump, and must the Home Office comply with the recommendation?

DarthBrooks on January 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM

the muzzBrits have gone from Winston Churchill to Ward Churchill.

pathetic

Senator Philip Bluster on January 18, 2016 at 2:38 PM

The Ayes had it – – so that means Parliament recommends that the Home Office bans Trump, and must the Home Office comply with the recommendation?

DarthBrooks on January 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM

I read that it’s not going to happen.

I’m happy they voted aye though – if that’s what happened – it’s not real until Allah does an update.

This is worth 2 or 3% for Trump. And if the home secretary does take a p*ss and get on with the ban then that’ll be ace, mate. It would be my patriotic duty to vote and work for Trump against the british caliphate.

BoxHead1 on January 18, 2016 at 2:48 PM

Neville chamberlain popping champagne in his crypt……

Indiana Jim on January 18, 2016 at 3:07 PM

The Ayes had it – – so that means Parliament recommends that the Home Office bans Trump, and must the Home Office comply with the recommendation?

DarthBrooks on January 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM

The committee on petitions voted to agree that “they had duly considered the petition” but not to vote on whether to ban him, that would be up to the Home Minister. The Home Minister said that Trump needs to invest more in Scotland but he’s not going to ban him:

“Mr Trump has threatened to withhold investment in Scotland in response to the calls to ban him from the UK. Over the years Mr Trump has made a number of statements about the different scale of his investment in the UK and his willingness to maintain them.

“The UK is the number one destination in European Union for inward investment, the World Bank has ranked the UK as the sixth easiest place in he world to do business, so any organisation that makes promises about investment in the UK should live up to those promises.”

kcewa on January 18, 2016 at 3:09 PM

I doubt they can follow through. It will set off a train of lawsuits due to the property and business interests he has, not to mention the whole jurisdiction issue and the fact that he has committed no crime in the UK.

This is like Congress investigating baseball. Abuse of public resource and power.

I suppose they feel better by denouncing the bearer of policy that might help them with their national suicide with Islam.

virgo on January 18, 2016 at 3:17 PM

I appreciate the fact that Brits probably don’t know all the intricacies of American law, but that Scottish MP lady thinks Trump can amend the Constitution on his own if he became President.

DarthBrooks on January 18, 2016 at 2:15 PM

That’s what comes of reading The Grauniad a little too much.

trigon on January 18, 2016 at 4:07 PM

So who should Trump appoint as Ambassador to the UK?

kcewa on January 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

Michael Savage?

JIMV on January 18, 2016 at 5:29 PM

Give them Obama!

Nat George on January 18, 2016 at 6:06 PM

United Kingdom
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Photo: UK lawmaker Tasmina Sheikh, a Muslim, speaks during Parliamentary debate on whether to ban Donald Trump from entering Britain; she said that while Trump’s actions are described as ‘buffoonery,’ he’s speaking of her family – @MashableUK
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Mashable UK [email protected] 4h4 hours ago

Muslim MP says Trump’s words are not funny — they’re poisonous http://on.mash.to/1NgIwEv

https://twitter.com/MashableUK

canopfor on January 18, 2016 at 6:23 PM

It all sounds so much better when debated in British.

wbcoleman on January 18, 2016 at 2:21 PM

Tragically, it also makes the British Parliament look like it is comprised of the stupidest people in Briton.

oscarwilde on January 18, 2016 at 2:24 PM

I enjoyed the hell out of it, but I’m a sucker for British politics. Honestly, I thought most of them sounded pretty good, even some of the anti-Trump advocates. After all, Trump’s promise IS preposterous on its face.

wbcoleman on January 18, 2016 at 6:26 PM

Look at the Brits now

Schadenfreude on January 18, 2016 at 6:59 PM

The Brits are a bunch of know nothing, in-breds

WestportSC on January 18, 2016 at 1:55 PM

Good lord. Start a sentence with a capital letter, use the correct word, and note that the word inbred doesn’t include a hyphen.

It might be a good idea, before you insult an entire country for their lack of knowledge, to learn about constructing a proper sentence.

runawayyyy on January 19, 2016 at 10:05 AM

We saved you Brits from the Nazi hordes, but deal with the Muslim pigs on your own!

redware on January 19, 2016 at 2:48 PM

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