Video: Trump hears the boo birds after criticizing Ted Cruz

posted at 9:21 am on January 18, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

One thing we’ve gotten used during the presidential campaign of Donald Trump is the the presence of huge (sorry… YUGE) crowds at his rallies. It’s been one of the dominant features in all the earned media he receives and keeps the networks lining up to cover his events even as he insults them to their faces. We’re also accustomed to the occasional protesters who show up and wind up being quickly escorted from the venue. But one thing we definitely do not see at these huge events is widespread booing and catcalls directed at Trump himself from his army of generally loyal fans. And yet, that’s exactly what happened in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina this weekend. Let’s go to the video.

So what did Trump finally do to turn his own crowd against him? From the context in the video there seems to be only one explanation. He went after Ted Cruz pretty hard and the audience did not appreciate it. (NBC News)

Among conservatives, Donald Trump can typically do no wrong — until he attacks Ted Cruz.

On Saturday, Trump drew boos from a grassroots conservative crowd during remarks at the South Carolina Tea Party Coalition Convention for his attack on Cruz’s previously undisclosed loans.

“You give a campaign contribution to Ted Cruz, you get whatever the hell you want,” he said, before boos erupted from the crowd.

Trump went on as the boos grew louder: “Say whatever you want, it’s okay, he didn’t report his bank loans. He’s got bank loans from Goldman Sachs, he’s got bank loans from Citibank, folks, and then he acts like Robin Hood?”

I don’t know if Trump takes something away from this encounter and changes up his strategy or not, but he’s got plenty to think about. He can attack the Democrats (obviously) and the crowds go wild. He can go after the media in the most scathing ways and his supporters will join in with his withering criticism. He is also free to go after all of the establishment GOP candidates with insults and barbs, calling Jeb Bush low energy or Chris Christie a liberal, and the faithful will lap it up like milk from a saucer. But his anti-establishment base seems to like Ted Cruz and they don’t care to see him get muddied up at a Trump rally.

This shouldn’t be too surprising. Trump and Cruz are as close as you’d get to natural allies in this race, even as they battle each other for first place in Iowa. Donald Trump is bashing down the gates of the establishment GOP from the outside even as Cruz has spent several years setting it on fire from within. The real secret to the success of both men thus far has much less to do with their specific policy proposals and everything to do with knocking over the apple cart which conservatives now view as being full of rotten fruit.

It sounds like the crowds are picking up on this, though whether it shows up in their respective poll numbers remains to be seen. For months now, the “bromance” between the two seemed to be a winning formula. The Trump / Cruz blanket fort was a fairly safe space and each of their supporters seemed to at least respect the other candidate no matter which they were supporting. But now Mom and Dad are fighting and the kids aren’t alright.

John Hawkins seems to find the entire situation bewildering.

This is confusing for two reasons. First, who cares if Ted Cruz has loans and didn’t report them? Whatever, right? Secondly, why do people boo what’s true?

On the one hand, this should have been predictable. Trump attacks anyone who either begins to rise in the polls or raises a lot of money, as well as anyone who comes after him first. Cruz qualifies on two of those fronts at least. As to the particular issues he’s hitting him on… meh. I’ve written about the entire birther thing here before and I find it an empty threat, devoid of any interest beyond the positive outcome of having SCOTUS resolve the whole “natural born citizen” thing once and for all. As to the loans, we covered that here as well. It’s a minor foot fault at best, with some money being stuck in the wrong column on a spreadsheet.

But Trump needed some breadcrumb to go after the Texas senator on, and that’s what presented itself. The question now is whether or not we’ll see Trump back off on the attacks or at least soften them a bit. Cruz seems to remain quite popular with Trump’s base of support and if his fans start drifting away or getting turned off it wouldn’t be shocking if such a turn of events resulted in a direct benefit for Ted Cruz.

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Ummm……

No, I’m saying that Trump’s wall is more likely and feasible,

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

That is what I was referring to. Not the IRS.

That’s not what I said. Now you have reading comprehension problems.

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 1:15 PM

The boos weren’t that forceful and were just barely sounding like boo. Heck, the crowd even laughed at a joke about Cruz.

So, they razzed him a bit while laughing then standing up to applaud at the end.

And this some sort of reason to change attacking Cruz?

Really?

TexasDude on January 18, 2016 at 1:16 PM

Meanwhile, Cruz can’t even say wall. But he’s a border hawk donchaknow.

And China? Yeah, that Obamatrade he supported will really put China in its place.

xblade on January 18, 2016 at 12:18 PM

Non sequiturs.

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 1:19 PM

right2bright pwned you.

voiceoftreason on January 18, 2016 at 12:13 PM

You really have no idea, do you?

Joseph K on January 18, 2016 at 1:12 PM

I agree w/ voiceoftreason, NWconservative definitely got “pwned” there, no doubt.

And the stuff about “Jim Beam” was uncalled for; who makes posts like that anyway?

Redstone on January 18, 2016 at 1:21 PM

Why doesn’t it? Ted denied that he said it in one of the debates. That makes it relevant.

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 1:12 PM

Good grief. That was a snark aimed at the “logic” of Trump supporters.

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 1:22 PM

Uhmmmm, he also got a standing ovation.

TexasDude on January 18, 2016 at 1:01 PM

My TX roots still tell me Teddyboi is four flushing quack

rik on January 18, 2016 at 1:27 PM

My TX roots still tell me Teddyboi is four flushing quack

rik on January 18, 2016 at 1:27 PM

What does that mean? How do your “roots” talk to you?

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 1:28 PM

What does that mean? How do your “roots” talk to you?

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 1:28 PM

Easy, Felix, easy

rik on January 18, 2016 at 1:30 PM

His speech was about 45 minutes long I believe. This excerpt is within the last minute and they stopped it just seconds short of the very end in which the crowds stands up and applauds/cheers.

It appears Shaw doth protest too much.

TexasDude on January 18, 2016 at 1:34 PM

Easy, Felix, easy

rik on January 18, 2016 at 1:30 PM

Is that what they just told your to tell your cat..or the Felix the Cat clock on your wall??

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 1:37 PM

To truly abolish the IRS build a wall you have to amend the Constitution. Otherwise the Dems/GOPe can bring it back tear it down under another president.

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 12:46 PM

So the only laws that stick are Constitutional Amendments?

And besides, Ted doesn’t really want to abolish the IRS. Who will collect his VAT tax?

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 12:46 PM

Do you get your talking points from the rubio campaign? Explain how you get a VAT from this plan.

Lost in Jersey on January 18, 2016 at 1:38 PM

In the very beginning he had to tell the crowd to have a seat. They probably would have staid standing for quite some time. You hear a lady yell out, “We love you!”

TexasDude on January 18, 2016 at 1:39 PM

The veritable foundation of my existence has been shaken to it’s core.

Oxymoron on January 18, 2016 at 1:44 PM

The veritable foundation of my existence has been shaken to it’s core.

Oxymoron on January 18, 2016 at 1:44 PM

Surprised by the Pod People?

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 1:48 PM

In the very beginning he had to tell the crowd to have a seat. They probably would have staid standing for quite some time. You hear a lady yell out, “We love you!”

TexasDude on January 18, 2016 at 1:39 PM

Did anyone faint?

Lost in Jersey on January 18, 2016 at 1:50 PM

Less than two minutes into the speech, Trump talks about the last GOP debate. Someone yells out, “You won!”

On and on it goes. A little razzing at the end that also had some laughs and clapping at the end.

And this is what some focus on as some sort of warning to Trump,

Really?

TexasDude on January 18, 2016 at 1:55 PM

He filed the loans in his senate paper work and will amend his FEC filings if they are incorrect. Again, if that bothers you, don’t vote for him.

Cindy Munford

Not filing things correctly seems to be a pattern for Cruz.

2013 – Ted Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean Holding Company

.

xblade on January 18, 2016 at 2:08 PM

Did anyone faint?

Lost in Jersey on January 18, 2016 at 1:50 PM

If they did, did anyone call the paralegals, or at least offer them a breathalyzer?

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 2:21 PM

Ummm……

No, I’m saying that Trump’s wall is more likely and feasible,

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM

That is what I was referring to. Not the IRS.

That’s not what I said. Now you have reading comprehension problems.

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 1:15 PM

When you chop up people’s quotes, you actually change the meaning. I’m sorry you didn’t understand what I originally meant, but I thought it was clear. I said that Trump’s wall is more likely than Cruz’ abolition. Make sense now?

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 2:24 PM

Good grief. That was a snark aimed at the “logic” of Trump supporters.

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 1:22 PM

You’re thinking of something else. Ted denied supporting amnesty when he was attacked by Rubio. He denied ever pushing for a path to legalization.

fossten on January 18, 2016 at 2:26 PM

xblade on January 18, 2016 at 2:08 PM

Good grief. Again..he did report it. A 6k investment with a college roommate.
Dig deeper…you may hit China, and then you’ll already be there when Trump needs help “teaching China a lesson”.

When Cruz later reported the financial relationship in 2013, he failed to comply with Senate rules requiring full identification of the holding company and its location,

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 2:29 PM

It was a campaign loan. He was borrowing against future campaign donations. This ain’t rocket surgery.

NotCoach on January 18, 2016 at 10:05 AM

It is my understanding that these were unsecured personal loans and paying back with campaign contributions is illegal. But I’m certainly not an expert, so take that with a grain of salt.

Fenris on January 18, 2016 at 10:13 AM

A grain of salt is a good idea anytime a non-expert starts talking about campaign financing laws. Including me. It gets very complicated.

But if I follow what happened here, Cruz took out a personal loan against his and his wife’s financial assets, then used that money to finance his campaign. Since he has a campaign fund, that probably means he either gave the money from the personal loan to his campaign, or loaned it to his campaign. If he loaned it, then the campaign can pay it back.

The campaign is a different entity from Cruz himself, which is why taking money contributed to the campaign for his personal use would be considered fraudulent. But if you loan the money from your person to your campaign, then as contributions come in, the campaign can pay back the amount that was loaned.

And, of course, there are thousands of rules about just how much of this you can do.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 18, 2016 at 2:29 PM

Honest La Cruz

Schadenfreude on January 18, 2016 at 2:39 PM

You’re thinking of something else.
fossten on January 18, 2016 at 2:26 PM

That’s possible, i didn’t read the whole thread. I didn’t think I needed to. I was responding to,what seemed like, your claim that Trumps “wall” was more feasible than Cruz’s “wall”. Period.
I didn’t “chop up” anything. I see not reference to anything that has “abolition” in it.
Was it in an earlier post?

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 2:44 PM

Can’t wait to vote for Cruz or Trump!

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 2:51 PM

Not filing things correctly seems to be a pattern for Cruz.

2013 – Ted Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean Holding Company

.

xblade on January 18, 2016 at 2:08 PM

Every candidate makes a mistake in filing with the FEC…the rules are about as vague as you can get.

What is not ever stated is the quote from the FEC regarding his first filing…the FEC said that they were not sure themselves if it was wrong or not, they had to think about getting a “ruling”.

So if they don’t know, how can a candidate know? And so Cruz will be “wrong” if the ruling is against him, and “right” if it is for him…but, the FEC doesn’t know or understand.

Good grief…every election, every candidate gets called on the carpet…Carson has, Hillary has, Huck was last time, so was Romney…wait, Romney didn’t pay his taxes for 10 years or something.

Filling out those forms is not “three lines”…

right2bright on January 18, 2016 at 3:57 PM

It is my understanding that these were unsecured personal loans and paying back with campaign contributions is illegal. But I’m certainly not an expert, so take that with a grain of salt.

Fenris on January 18, 2016 at 10:13 AM

The FEC stated they do not know if anything was done “wrong”, if so it was clerical because they didn’t know the ruling…

The complexity of these laws is staggering…

right2bright on January 18, 2016 at 3:59 PM

If they did, did anyone call the paralegals, or at least offer them a breathalyzer?

Mimzey on January 18, 2016 at 2:21 PM

Luckily there was a corpse man standing by.

Oxymoron on January 18, 2016 at 6:05 PM

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