Open thread: “No, I’ll grab more guns!” The Democrat debate

posted at 8:01 pm on January 17, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

Tonight there’s yet another Democrat debate, in which the party of youth and diversity pits two elderly white people against each other, along with a somewhat less elderly white guy with national name recognition only slightly higher than my dog, Fred. (Though to be fair, Fred’s tax plan is a lot more solid.) As usual, it’s on a Sunday night on a holiday weekend right after everyone finishes watching football and drinking, so I’m sure the ratings will be through the roof. (Assuming the roof is on a doghouse.) You’re all to be forgiven if you don’t want to bother sitting through it, but fear not! Your Hot Air team will watch it for you.

For those who can summon the requisite interest, join us here to play along at home. We’ll forgo Quotes of the Day tonight and just run with the fun of watching Bernie, Hillary and Martin slug it out. The candidates have been squaring off on cable news and telegraphing some of their punches in the run up to the main event, so we may has well lay out some of the groundwork.

Hillary Clinton had a rather unusual moment with Jake Tapper this morning when she was asked about her surrogates going out and demanding that Bernie Sanders release his health records. The hilarious, desperate and obvious nature of the request probably says something about where Team Hillary thinks they stand right now and Jake asked Hillary about it.

“Well, I don’t know anything about it, but I’ve released my medical records, and I remember being asked frequently for me to do so, and so obviously that’s something I’ll leave up to the Sanders campaign.”

On ABC’s This Week, they took another shot at the same question and it didn’t turn out much better.

“You know, I put out my medical records. I think you’ve been around long enough to know, George, this is all part of the expectation.”

Bernie Sanders wasn’t laying low either. He was on Face the Nation, where Dickerson interviewed him in front of some folksy fireplace setting and his answers were… confusing. I’ll give the media credit for asking Bernie some real questions now that he’s in contention in the early states, but he just keeps sounding like he’s apologizing all the time. Check it out for yourself.

On the off chance that you’re really desperate to watch this debate but aren’t near a television I’m embedding the NBC live feed via YouTube here at the bottom. I think it should fit on your mobile phone. Coverage kicks off at 8 pm eastern. Best of luck and try not to play the debate drinking game too hard if you have to work in the morning.

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Here’s what you read like: Are you seriously making that ignorant assertion that I cannot answer because I don’t know what Gausian means? Yeah. That’s you, Ignoramus.

ExpressoBold on January 18, 2016 at 1:36 AM

I know exactly what a Gaussian distribution is. If we start waving our academic penises around, I think you’ll end up disappointed in your own shortcomings, relatively speaking.

You didn’t answer the question. Are you seriously denying a causal link between Trump’s authoritarian policies and the authoritarianism of his supporters?

TBSchemer on January 18, 2016 at 2:07 AM

That’s it for me on this shift… see you when the sun comes up.

ExpressoBold on January 18, 2016 at 2:07 AM

Here’s what you read like: Are you seriously making that ignorant assertion that I cannot answer because I don’t know what Gausian means? Yeah. That’s you, Ignoramus.

ExpressoBold on January 18, 2016 at 1:36 AM

I know exactly what a Gaussian distribution is. If we start waving our academic p*nises (seriously, Hot Air? You censor biological terms)? around, I think you’ll end up disappointed in your own shortcomings, relatively speaking.

You didn’t answer the question. Are you seriously denying a causal link between Trump’s authoritarian policies and the authoritarianism of his supporters?

TBSchemer on January 18, 2016 at 2:08 AM

…….Yes – it’s a bunch of Psychobabble BullSh!t Made Up By A Trump-Hating JOURNALIST to push their agenda under the guise of “neutrality”………and they LIE LIKE A CLINTON!!!

williamg on January 18, 2016 at 1:34 AM

So you deny that you have authoritarian beliefs?

TBSchemer on January 18, 2016 at 2:10 AM

Monday Monday – Mamas and Papas

31giddyup on January 18, 2016 at 3:20 AM

How long does CBS think a show about Nancy Drew, a blonde haired, blue eyed, female teenage sleuth will last when Nancy is not blonde, not blue eyed, and probably not a teenager? all you’ve got then is the name. Yeah, good luck with that. I guess the list of canceled failed shows needs “diversity”, too.

Doc Holliday on January 18, 2016 at 12:04 AM

Oh, now there’s talk that Rowling has green-lighted another Harry Potter movie where the kids are older and Hermione is black…..

SDN on January 18, 2016 at 3:23 AM

Good morning everybody.

Racistanyway on January 18, 2016 at 3:24 AM

Ratso has cabin fever and wants to go outside. It is three degrees out, not sure what the WC is…

OmahaConservative on January 18, 2016 at 4:12 AM

From the Breitbart description of the debate:

Clinton added a line about how Obamacare, despite being one of the greatest things in the history of America, is not currently working.

Debate thread winner!!!!

fred5678 on January 18, 2016 at 4:43 AM

Shalom, good morning from Jerusalem (well it’s almost noon here).

I watched about an hour of the debate, streaming, about 3 or so a.m. on my phone.

For Hillary, everything was great about Obama, except all the things she wants to fix.

For Bernie, everything is already broken and if he could have all of you money, he’ll fix it. And if something is not broken, he would still like your money to keep it from breaking.

Why did they have Howdy Doody on stage with the other two?

Walter L. Newton on January 18, 2016 at 4:58 AM

For Bernie, everything is already broken and if he could have all of you money, he’ll fix it. And if something is not broken, he would still like your money to keep it from breaking.

Why did they have Howdy Doody on stage with the other two?

Walter L. Newton on January 18, 2016 at 4:58 AM

If it’s not broken, he’ll break it before “fixing” it — which means to really break it.

Lolo on January 18, 2016 at 5:09 AM

How long does CBS think a show about Nancy Drew, a blonde haired, blue eyed, female teenage sleuth will last when Nancy is not blonde, not blue eyed, and probably not a teenager? all you’ve got then is the name. Yeah, good luck with that. I guess the list of canceled failed shows needs “diversity”, too.

Doc Holliday on January 18, 2016 at 12:04 AM

Careful, now. I remember a TV series from the late 1970s titled The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries in which 26+-year-old brunette Pamela Sue Martin starred as Nancy Drew.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0552863/?ref_=tt_ov_st

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hardy_Boys/Nancy_Drew_Mysteries

Then, again, she left in the third season.

BuckeyeSam on January 18, 2016 at 5:10 AM

Morning y’all

cmsinaz on January 18, 2016 at 5:11 AM

Thanks Walter

Enjoy Jerusalem

cmsinaz on January 18, 2016 at 5:12 AM

morning joe spending the last half hour trying to prop up the iran deal.

the iranians are happy with it.

renalin on January 18, 2016 at 6:23 AM

Canapor

etal

Look for and pass on facts on actions of the Mexican Govt. regarding retaliation against the people in the villages near where El Chapo Guzman was holed upon top of a mountain .

After he escaped to where they caught him reports are the military was allowed to go on a rampage.
Fired on the villages from helo gun ships, ransacked farms, local stores and other real bad acts.
Over 1,000 people fled the area to a regional town near by.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 18, 2016 at 6:34 AM

Morning Everyone:

It Begins: IRANium Oil Lootery:
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Iran
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Iran orders oil production increase of 500,000 barrels per day, ministry says – AFP
End of alert
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Iran Kicks Off Plan to Boost Oil Exports as Sanctions Lifted
Anthony DiPaola and Hashem KalantariJan
18, 2016 5:31 am ET
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(Bloomberg) — Iran is beginning efforts to boost oil production and exports amid a global supply glut after the removal of sanctions that shackled its economy and capped crude sales.

The Persian Gulf country is targeting an immediate increase in shipments of 500,000 barrels a day, Amir Hossein Zamaninia, deputy oil minister for commerce and international affairs, said Sunday in an interview in Tehran. Iran plans to add another half million barrels within months. The additional crude will push prices lower when it enters markets that are already oversupplied, said Robin Millsof Dubai-based oil consultant Qamar Energy.

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http://washpost.bloomberg.com/Story?docId=1376-O135FJ6S972901-2C3SDLGE7LJ7HNTSGLHIT1E1QM

canopfor on January 18, 2016 at 7:06 AM

ShowDown Cometh:
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Wisconsin lawn mower factory says it will FIRE all 53 of its Muslim employees if they take unscheduled prayer breaks
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Wisconsin’s Ariens manufacturing plant takes away Muslim worship breaks
Many Muslims are now out of a job after Ariens Company (pictured left), a Wisconsin power plant, changed its prayer policy on Thursday to allow prayer only during scheduled breaks instead of twice a day. It is not in the Muslim tradition, however, to pray during meal times.’If someone tells you, “You pray on your break,” and the break time is not the prayer time? It will be impossible to pray,’ said Green Bay Masjid Imam Hasan Abdi (pictured bottom left with another former colleague pictured top right).
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3404116/Wisconsin-manufacturing-plant-takes-away-Muslim-worship-breaks-53-employees-complained-ten-got-fired-left-company.html

Ariens Company [email protected] Jan 16

A letter from Dan Ariens in response to @WBAY article: http://wbay.com/2016/01/15/new-prayer-

https://twitter.com/Ariens/status/688481483347116033

canopfor on January 18, 2016 at 7:10 AM

Morning all. I didnt watch but I heard it was quite an NRA bashfest. Fine, whoever gets the nod I hope they bring that anti gun agenda to the general.

bernzright777 on January 18, 2016 at 7:13 AM

As always canopfor, thx for the links.

bernzright777 on January 18, 2016 at 7:15 AM

Good Morning, y’all!

“Lies…that’s all I ever get from you” -“Lies”, The Knickerbockers (1966)

My take: https://kingsjester.wordpress.com/2016/01/18/little-white-lies-bald-faced-lies-and-hillary-im-for-huge-campaign-finance-reform-except-in-the-clinton-foundation/

“Little White Lies, Bald-Faced Lies, and Hillary: “I’m For Huge Campaign-Finance Reform”…Except in the Clinton Foundation”

kingsjester on January 18, 2016 at 7:26 AM

RePosty:
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OH POOP,…the NKGoons are watching the Debate,
and tweeting, just like the GOP Debate:
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 2m2 minutes ago

Bernard Sanders praises nations such as Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea for providing health care as basic right of all workers.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 6m6 minutes ago

Martin Omalley babbles in remarkably dim and obscure fashion.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 10m10 minutes ago

Hillary Clinton demands that US workers pay vastly increased tribute to insurance corporations in order to obtain medical treatment.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 15m15 minutes ago

Kim Il-Sung University professor describes US democrats as party of reactionary fascism, while republicans represent fascistic reaction.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 17m17 minutes ago

Bernard Sanders loudly demands revolution and forced mental hospitalization for social undesirables such as drug addicts.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 19m19 minutes ago

Hillary Clinton grudgingly admits that peasants require heroin and other opiates in order to endure the daily pain of life in United States.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 22m22 minutes ago

Bernard Sanders shouts in bewildered bafflement that he is hard of hearing.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 23m23 minutes ago

Martin Omalley complains of difficulty many US workers find in obtaining marijuana and other narcotics.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 25m25 minutes ago

Bernard Sanders shouts loudly concerning unspecified problems.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 27m27 minutes ago

Hillary Clinton describes US as bigoted racist nation in which police slaughter negroes with impunity, under laws enacted by her husband.
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DPRK News Service [email protected]_News 36m36 minutes ago

Hillary Clinton demands more and less expensive opiates for US masses already dulled into senseless submission by heroin and crack cocaine.
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https://twitter.com/DPRK_News

canopfor on January 17, 2016 at 9:47 PM

canopfor on January 18, 2016 at 7:30 AM

As always canopfor, thx for the links.

bernzright777 on January 18, 2016 at 7:15 AM

bernzright777: Anytime:)

canopfor on January 18, 2016 at 7:32 AM

Bump.

Still waiting on an answer to these querstions. If CD won’t answer, maybe some other of our resident leftists would like to take a shot:

What evidence suggests to you that Obama can be trusted to deal with his opponents honestly?

What evidence suggests to you that Obama’s gun control proposals are “based in reality”?

What evidence suggests to you that the NRA’s position is not based in reality?

GrumpyOldFart on January 18, 2016 at 8:18 AM

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