Rush: This Steelers-Bengals disgrace says everything about American culture

posted at 1:21 pm on January 12, 2016 by Ed Morrissey

Disgrace is the right word for it. Heated rivalries and hard hitting is nothing new for the NFL, but Saturday night’s wild card game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals showed a distortion so bad that it actually changed the outcome of the game. Rush Limbaugh starts off by rebutting Donald Trump’s odd argument that the NFL had gone too soft, when in fact the problem with the NFL and its lack of discipline is more the opposite — and a reflection of ourselves:

I have to talk about the Steelers and Bengals on Saturday night.  Now, I made a study, too.  Folks, I don’t know how many of you saw the game.  I hope a lot of you.  For those of you who missed it, I’m just gonna give you the high points of what happened here that determined the outcome in the final minute, but it was a disgrace.

It was a flat-out disgrace.  I don’t even think the referees could have controlled this unless they had been willing to throw people out of the game long before the events late in the fourth quarter happened, and that just doesn’t seem to be a step the NFL wants to take.  But the Cincinnati Bengals had been stymied for three quarters on offense, they came back and they had a one-point lead over the Steelers.

Vontaze Burfict, number 55, great linebacker for the Bengals, had had the game of his career.  He sacked Roethlisberger and took him out of the game with an injured right shoulder.  In fact, when Roethlisberger was being carted off the field, Bengals fans were throwing batteries and bottles and cans at him.  This whole thing was a total breakdown.

In the stands, people were urinating on each other, Bengals fans were urinating on Steelers fans, Steeler fans were beating up on Bengals fans, and women were being beaten up in the face.  There were five or six charges, I think, or crimes charged by the Cincinnati police once it was all sorted out, and it was all a direct result of what was happening on the field.

What was happening on the field started long before this sequence of events. In the first half, Steeler coach Mike Munchak drew a 15-yard personal foul for pulling the hair of Bengal safety Reggie Nelson, who went out of bounds at the end of a play. Play grew progressively chippier afterward, but it began to blow up in the third quarter when Steelers linebacker Ryan Shazier lowered his helmet and hit Giovani Bernard, causing a fumble and a concussion but without drawing a flag. Bengals players, including Burfict, Adam “Pac-Man” Jones, and Jeremy Hill, raged on the sidelines and on the field, going out of control.

In the midst of this mayhem in the fourth quarter, replacement QB A.J. McCarron led Cincinnati to a comeback from 15-0 down to 16-15 with only a few minutes left. Burfict picked off Steelers backup QB with less than two minutes, which should have sealed the victory — only the three most out-of-control players on the Bengals ended up handing the game to the Steelers. Hill fumbled as he tried to gain extra yardage that Cincy didn’t need, and then Burfict made the hit on Brown that led to the penalty and Jones’ rage that led to another.

Rush can’t believe that the message from that game was that the NFL has gone “soft”:

Saturday night’s game was not an example of the NFL going soft.  That game was brutal, and a lot of the brutality was not called for in terms of penalties.  This was not a wussified NFL on display Saturday.  It was quite the exact opposite, in fact.

So Trump coming out and talking about the wussification of the NFL after that game?  I’m scratching my head, what game did he watch?  So it tells me Trump has a radar, and he’s aware of what people are saying about various things and decides to chime in now and then if he thinks that it’s politically opportune, but this was not the game to accuse the NFL of wussifying.  This was not the game to accuse the NFL of becoming a bunch of pansies.  This was not the game where you complain and moan about the referees going soft.  I mean, there’s a reason why some in the media are calling it a prison gang riot.

Even as a die-hard Steelers fan, I found this game disturbing and disgraceful … on both sides. There is something wrong with the NFL that reflects our culture at large, though, and it’s worth discussing. It is the narcissistic, self-centered impulse that makes everyone larger than their team, communities, schools, whatever. It’s the same impulse that leads to demands for trigger warnings, for safe spaces, and is caused by the same special-snowflake syndrome that drives those.

I’ve been watching NFL football for almost 50 years, and the league tolerated harder hits in the past while ignoring the significant damage they caused. Attempting to minimize injuries, especially when athletes are paid as much as they are, is just good business sense, not going “soft.” But even in the hard-hitting days, the athletes understood that their excesses could cost the team, and accepted the discipline that minimized that. More and more, that discipline has given way to “emotion,” as announcers call it, or what the rest of us call displays of narcissistic self-indulgence. Burfict, Jones, and to a lesser extent Hill just displayed a particularly toxic form of this trend, and it came together in an orgy of undisciplined violence that almost literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. But they were not the only players exhibiting that, nor were the Bengals the only team on the field exhibiting it, either.

The Steelers get to move on in the playoffs after this disgrace, but it’s not a game that should make anyone’s highlight reels.


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One of my worst fears is being realized, we have become soccer hooligans.

gbear on January 12, 2016 at 3:06 PM

the NFL today is mostly comprised of inner black thugs with all the culture that brings with it. They were raised by their grandmothers, because few had fathers or even mothers. That is why we see not only so many players being charged with violent crimes off the field, but why the game itself is going in the same direction, and the fans with them.

It is no longer football. It is bloods vs the Crips. I said goodbye to the NFL a long time ago.

The 49es always won in every Superbowl they went to, until the day they had a quarterback covered in tattoos. Then they lost.

HugoDrax on January 12, 2016 at 3:08 PM

running into the tunnel . . . .

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:00 PM

that was just funny and totally entertaining to watch. They are in the entertainment business after all! I think the owners and refs and comissh forget that a lot.

greencalliope on January 12, 2016 at 3:06 PM

So is two people dancing in the end zone, but that’s a penalty.

Nice double standard, which entirely undermines your credibility or football knowledge.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:09 PM

And don’t forget when the Steelers ended the season of Brady and Palmer, and Dalton too for that matter.

And when Tomlin tried to trip a Jags player running down the sidelines.

The Steelers are DIRTY.

fossten on January 12, 2016 at 3:12 PM

Here’s the root of the issue. No matter what the Steelers or the refs did, the Bengals are responsible for their own actions. It’s akin to a child saying “He MADE me do it.”

And the inability to recognize that, either by the players or their fans, is the problem both here and in society. Everything is always someone else’s fault.

I have the most respect for Jeremy Hill, who clearly was not responsible for the loss, but stood up and said this was his fault.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:14 PM

Fossten, Dalton broke his thumb trying to make a tackle. Hardly the Steelers fault. But again, see my above premise. Someone else always is to blame, right?

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:16 PM

So is two people dancing in the end zone, but that’s a penalty.

Nice double standard, which entirely undermines your credibility or football knowledge.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:09 PM

I have never admitted to “football knowledge”. I just like watching the game with DH. And it isn’t a double standard, because I also like watching them dance in the end zone. Making that a penalty was again not keeping in mind that this is entertainment. Years ago the guy signing the ball after a touch down was hilarious.

greencalliope on January 12, 2016 at 3:19 PM

So is two people dancing in the end zone, but that’s a penalty.

Nice double standard, which entirely undermines your credibility or football knowledge.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:09 PM

The excessive celebration penalty is applied for things done on the field – which includes the end zone.
The penalty doesn’t apply for things done off the field – as in running up the tunnel or on the sidelines. But no matter where they are, there is a possibility of an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty if a ref doesn’t like whatever they do.
You might want to check your own “credibility or football knowledge”.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 3:20 PM

In a very NFL conspiracy theorist sort of way……

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 3:05 PM

I’ll start looking for my tin foil hat. It’s around here somewhere. . . .

greencalliope on January 12, 2016 at 3:20 PM

I have never admitted to “football knowledge”. I just like watching the game with DH. And it isn’t a double standard, because I also like watching them dance in the end zone. Making that a penalty was again not keeping in mind that this is entertainment. Years ago the guy signing the ball after a touch down was hilarious.

greencalliope on January 12, 2016 at 3:19 PM

Your premise was the refs were favoring the Steelers, yet here’s a crystal clear example of the refs ignoring what should have been flagged, “hilarious” or not.

That’s not a double standard?

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:21 PM

Fossten, Dalton broke his thumb trying to make a tackle. Hardly the Steelers fault. But again, see my above premise. Someone else always is to blame, right?

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:16 PM

And when did the Steelers end Brady’s season?

22044 on January 12, 2016 at 3:21 PM

fossten on January 12, 2016 at 3:12 PM

Good lord, that Pansy Dalton hurt himself trying to tackle.

TheMadHessian on January 12, 2016 at 3:23 PM

The excessive celebration penalty is applied for things done on the field – which includes the end zone.
The penalty doesn’t apply for things done off the field – as in running up the tunnel or on the sidelines. But no matter where they are, there is a possibility of an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty if a ref doesn’t like whatever they do.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 3:20 PM

False. A player can be dancing in the back of the endzone or the sideline, and while that technically isn’t “on the field” it’s still a penalty.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:23 PM

And when did the Steelers end Brady’s season?

22044 on January 12, 2016 at 3:21 PM

They didn’t. But don’t let facts ruin a good rant.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:24 PM

One of my worst fears is being realized, we have become soccer hooligans.

gbear on January 12, 2016 at 3:06 PM

The dems would like us to become soccer fans instead of football fans. I’m not sure about hooligans though. Just fans that like a game that is not boring, especially in weather where your eyelashes freeze and your contacts are in danger of freezing to your eyeballs.

greencalliope on January 12, 2016 at 3:25 PM

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:21 PM

no

greencalliope on January 12, 2016 at 3:27 PM

Man, you hate to see that. Shazier is a former Buckeye.

The Schaef on January 12, 2016 at 3:29 PM

Refs should have called the foul on the Shazier/Bernard hit. That would have negated the fumble. They also should have flagged Porter. Had they done that, perhaps the Bengals wouldn’t have been as livid and the game wouldn’t have gotten out of hand.

These former players had good perspective on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgyuOLlQP-Y&feature=youtu.be

mazer9 on January 12, 2016 at 3:30 PM

False. A player can be dancing in the back of the endzone or the sideline, and while that technically isn’t “on the field” it’s still a penalty.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:23 PM

Uh – no – go read the rules.
I don’t like these rules at all because football is fundamentally entertainment – and I think they’ve gotten far too strict on “celebrations” resulting in a reduction of the “entertainment value”.
But there are specific things outlawed by the rule – one of which is “choreographed dances with multiple players”.
There is nothing in the rule about running off the field – in fact running off the field to make a Lambeau Leap is specifically allowed.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 3:32 PM

the NFL today is mostly comprised of inner black thugs with all the culture that brings with it.

HugoDrax on January 12, 2016 at 3:08 PM

What?

DarkCurrent on January 12, 2016 at 3:52 PM

And don’t forget when the Steelers ended the season of Brady and Palmer, and Dalton too for that matter.

And when Tomlin tried to trip a Jags player running down the sidelines.

The Steelers are DIRTY.

fossten on January 12, 2016 at 3:12 PM

And when did the Steelers end Brady’s season?

22044 on January 12, 2016 at 3:21 PM

They didn’t. But don’t let facts ruin a good rant.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:24 PM

LOL, it’s all really Coach Belicheat’s fault.

Brady and the Patriots played (and beat) the Steelers in Week 1; it was the opening Thursday Night Football game.

After that, Brady and the Pats went 9-0, so his season was definitely not over!

It was the Kansas City Chiefs who ended Brady’s season in Game 1 a few years ago.

Del Dolemonte on January 12, 2016 at 3:55 PM

Perhaps the saddest moment was watching Pittsburgh’s first year offensive tackle/West Point war hero, Alejandro Villanueva, calmly step into the fray and take Joey Porter off the field during the altercation. At that point, I realized that very few players from either side deserved the honor of playing on the same field, either with or against this man.

TimeOnTarget on January 12, 2016 at 3:56 PM

Because the NFL is so much more important an issue to talk about than Ted Cruz’s eligibility to run for President,right Rush.Crickets on that one today,huh?

redware on January 12, 2016 at 3:58 PM

the NFL today is mostly comprised of inner black thugs with all the culture that brings with it.

HugoDrax on January 12, 2016 at 3:08 PM

What?

DarkCurrent on January 12, 2016 at 3:52 PM

Some of them are white on the outside, but they’re all black thugs on the inside…..
Also – anyone can now self-identify as whatever they want to be, so it’s all about what’s inside, not outside…….

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 3:58 PM

what happened to the dignity of the game?
Walter Peyton handing the ball to the ref after a score?
simply a handshake and line up for the next play.
If I want to watch grown men dancing around with each
other i reckon I’d need to go to SLC and go to the gay bars.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 12, 2016 at 3:59 PM

I liken the NFL to the Roman Coliseum. Where it just kept getting bigger and badder and sillier.

I figure the lawyers are going to do us a favor and kill the sport in the next 10-20 years. Tort law reform be damned.

Zomcon JEM on January 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM

alse. A player can be dancing in the back of the endzone or the sideline, and while that technically isn’t “on the field” it’s still a penalty.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:23 PM

Uh – no – go read the rules.
I don’t like these rules at all because football is fundamentally entertainment – and I think they’ve gotten far too strict on “celebrations” resulting in a reduction of the “entertainment value”.
But there are specific things outlawed by the rule – one of which is “choreographed dances with multiple players”.
There is nothing in the rule about running off the field – in fact running off the field to make a Lambeau Leap is specifically allowed.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 3:32 PM

Uh – not quite. Excessive celebration is more than one player. Hence, the call on Pittsburgh. The Lambeau Leap is a single player.

Burfict & Co. should have been flagged. It’s a false analogy to state because they ran OFF the field vis a vis the Leap that it was copacetic.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM

A bunch of childish, drug addicted savages who get sent to re-education camps if they question homosexuality and give liberal freedom-haters like Bob Costas a platform to spew their communist nonsense.

I haven’t watched the NFL since the mid-80s and I certainly don’t plan to start watching them anytime soon.

CrustyB on January 12, 2016 at 4:13 PM

Dummy Bengals
Dummy Stillers

SpongePuppy on January 12, 2016 at 4:14 PM

Uh – not quite. Excessive celebration is more than one player. Hence, the call on Pittsburgh. The Lambeau Leap is a single player.

Burfict & Co. should have been flagged. It’s a false analogy to state because they ran OFF the field vis a vis the Leap that it was copacetic.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM

Uh – no – the difference is the Bengals all just ran off the field and up the tunnel – the key being “off the field”. The Steelers’ dance was in the end zone – i.e. “on the field” – AND involved multiple (2) players. That’s why the Steelers got the penalty and the Bengals didn’t.
I’ve already said I don’t like these rules any way around – and I would like to see the rules rewritten – and I don’t think the Steelers should have been penalized either – but that is the way the rules are currently written, and the refs enforced the rule as written.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:15 PM

Brain dead Gang culture fubars everything.

Vulgar zoo animals.

SpongePuppy on January 12, 2016 at 4:17 PM

Recipe for Extra Delicious Tears

Ingredients

Steelers
Bengals
Thousands of Bengal fans
Some Steeler fans

Directions

Mix the above ingredients in a large stadium. Have the Steelers outplay the Bengals for most of the game. Have the Bengals stage a comeback and look for all the world like they are going to finally win a playoff game. Have some of the fans act like hooligans. Have some goons on the Bengals play dirty, do a celebration run into the tunnel, make some ridiculous personal fouls and then proceed to lose the game on a field goal!

Serves

Them right

justltl on January 12, 2016 at 4:20 PM

alse. A player can be dancing in the back of the endzone or the sideline, and while that technically isn’t “on the field” it’s still a penalty.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:23 PM

Uh – no – go read the rules.
I don’t like these rules at all because football is fundamentally entertainment – and I think they’ve gotten far too strict on “celebrations” resulting in a reduction of the “entertainment value”.
But there are specific things outlawed by the rule – one of which is “choreographed dances with multiple players”.
There is nothing in the rule about running off the field – in fact running off the field to make a Lambeau Leap is specifically allowed.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 3:32 PM

By the way, wasn’t the Lambeau Leap grandfathered in when the NFL enacted the Excessive Celebration penalty in 2000? I personally like it, but seems arbitrary and capricious to allow it in Green Bay but not elsewhere.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:24 PM

BTW, the current Bengals – Steelers kerfluffle looks like a family outing compared to some Raiders – Steelers games of yore.
Although it’s getting there.

justltl on January 12, 2016 at 4:26 PM

Adam “Pacman” Jones

• On probation for assault when drafted by Tennessee in 2005
• July 2005: arrested for assault and felony vandalism in Nashville
• September 2005: Altercation at a luncheon caused by Jones waiting in line for his car
• September 2005: Jones probation extended for failure to report July arrest
• February 2006: Arrested in Fayetteville, GA for marijuana possession, felony and misdemeanor accounts and obstruction of justice
• August 2006: Arrested in Murfreesboro, TN for disorderly conduct, public intoxication at a nightclub. Given six months’ probation
• October 2006: Cited for misdemeanor assault for spitting on a woman at a Nashville nightclub
• February 2007: In Las Vegas, Jones assaulted an exotic dancer at strip club, threatened to kill a bouncer after which his “posse” returned and shot the bouncer and other people. Wrestler Tommy Urbanski was paralyzed from the waist down. Jones was charged with felony coercion, battery and threat to life
• April 2007, NFL Commissioner Goodell suspends Jones for one year
• January 2008, Jones accused of hitting a woman in a strip club in Atlanta. The woman later withdrew the complaint.
• October 2008, Jones involved in altercation at a Dallas hotel. Suspended for 4 games.
• January 2015, Jones ordered to pay $11M to Urbanski and $1.3M to another patron shot at the Las Vegas strip club in 2007.

Questions, anyone? Bueller…anyone?

TimeOnTarget on January 12, 2016 at 4:26 PM

Uh – not quite. Excessive celebration is more than one player. Hence, the call on Pittsburgh. The Lambeau Leap is a single player.

Burfict & Co. should have been flagged. It’s a false analogy to state because they ran OFF the field vis a vis the Leap that it was copacetic.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM

Uh – no – the difference is the Bengals all just ran off the field and up the tunnel – the key being “off the field”. The Steelers’ dance was in the end zone – i.e. “on the field” – AND involved multiple (2) players. That’s why the Steelers got the penalty and the Bengals didn’t.
I’ve already said I don’t like these rules any way around – and I would like to see the rules rewritten – and I don’t think the Steelers should have been penalized either – but that is the way the rules are currently written, and the refs enforced the rule as written.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:15 PM

The “on the field” distinction is flat out wrong. The refs enforce Excessive Celebration even if the player is standing outside the parameters of the field itself.

And props are outlawed too. So by strict definition, the tunnel would have been a prop.

Sorry your Bengals lost, but trying to rationalize this one is like trying to learn grammar from Burfict.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:27 PM

Your first mistake is that you’re a “die-hard Steelers fan.” Your second mistake is mentioning Porter’s role in the chaos. Steelers coaches have a history of stepping into the field of play to alter situations. See, Tomlin, Mike and keeping player from scoring.

DepthTested on January 12, 2016 at 4:29 PM

By the way, wasn’t the Lambeau Leap grandfathered in when the NFL enacted the Excessive Celebration penalty in 2000? I personally like it, but seems arbitrary and capricious to allow it in Green Bay but not elsewhere.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:24 PM

Yes – that is one of the things specifically allowed by the rule – and they do allow it in the other stadiums.
As I said before – the rule specifically identifies things that are and are not allowed.
Go do a search for the rule – I tried to find it to post a link, but the firewalls where I am now disallow a lot of web sites.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:29 PM

Some of them are white on the outside, but they’re all black thugs on the inside…..
Also – anyone can now self-identify as whatever they want to be, so it’s all about what’s inside, not outside…….

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 3:58 PM

Still don’t quite get it… what do you mean?

DarkCurrent on January 12, 2016 at 4:30 PM

I’ve been an advocate of boycotting pro sports for years. I wouldn’t give any of these networks the time of day let alone my viewership.

Mr. Arrogant on January 12, 2016 at 4:31 PM

Here’s the actual language for excessive celebrations, by the way. Pretty clear that’s what the Bengals did by their jaunt into the tunnel, despite some twisted rationalization that this happened “off the field.”

Two or more players engaging in prolonged, excessive, premeditated, or choreographed celebrations or demonstrations.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:33 PM

It says a team with a good winning percentage over the years in big games can get away with murder.

tomas on January 12, 2016 at 4:33 PM

Sorry your Bengals lost, but trying to rationalize this one is like trying to learn grammar from Burfict.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:27 PM

Well, I’m not a Bengals or Steelers fan – but you’re obviously a very biased Steelers diehard who thinks your team almost got cheated.
The game was lousy on both sides IMO – but you’re just wrong about the excessive celebration rule and how it was or wasn’t applied in these 2 specific instances.

Looking forward to watching the Broncos whip your Steelers…..

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:36 PM

Well, I’m not a Bengals or Steelers fan – but you’re obviously a very biased Steelers diehard who thinks your team almost got cheated.
The game was lousy on both sides IMO – but you’re just wrong about the excessive celebration rule and how it was or wasn’t applied in these 2 specific instances.

Looking forward to watching the Broncos whip your Steelers…..

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:36 PM

Don’t think one way or the other. This all started by someone saying the refs were blatantly one sided in favor of the Steelers. I think there’s evidence — this missed penalty, a missed penalty on a Bengals player who removed a helmet — that’s not the case.

And I think the Broncos are going to easily beat the Steelers, especially if the QB, RB and WR are out.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:39 PM

The Stealers won based on a few players and coaches stupidity. They don’t deserve to move on.

tomas on January 12, 2016 at 4:41 PM

Here’s the actual language for excessive celebrations, by the way. Pretty clear that’s what the Bengals did by their jaunt into the tunnel, despite some twisted rationalization that this happened “off the field.”

Two or more players engaging in prolonged, excessive, premeditated, or choreographed celebrations or demonstrations.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:33 PM

That’s only part of the rule – and none of which applied to the Bengals’ run off the field – but did apply to the Steelers.
Nice try, but you’re still missing the point – and the difference.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:45 PM

Brain dead Gang culture fubars everything.

Vulgar zoo animals.

SpongePuppy on January 12, 2016 at 4:17 PM

Yeah, black gang members are in the stands at NFL playoff games, because those tickets are at their price point. Quit being a racist git.

libfreeordie on January 12, 2016 at 4:45 PM

After watching the Steeler’s/ Bengal’s game and the lack of any humanity towards each other I believe the NFL is rapidly becoming the gladiator battles of ancient Rome. At one time there was actually mutual respect by the opposing teams for their opponent but not any more. How a player could actually TRY to seriously harm another player is just plain evil. Playing hard and the injuries that go with that are one thing but today’s felons actually try to injure their opponents. This is no longer a sport. This is gang warfare and Goodall should put a stop to it.

inspectorudy on January 12, 2016 at 4:48 PM

Some of them are white on the outside, but they’re all black thugs on the inside…..
Also – anyone can now self-identify as whatever they want to be, so it’s all about what’s inside, not outside…….

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 3:58 PM

Still don’t quite get it… what do you mean?

DarkCurrent on January 12, 2016 at 4:30 PM

Hugo is a white supremacist, and is saying black people are thugs and that football players are thugs.

Hugo thinks that if there were no black players on the team this wouldn’t have happened.

The problem isn’t the players, it is the ED-drug poppin’ fans that reward this behavior. These people want to escape from their lives and live in a fantasy child’s game during the season.

antisense on January 12, 2016 at 4:49 PM

Don’t think one way or the other. This all started by someone saying the refs were blatantly one sided in favor of the Steelers. I think there’s evidence — this missed penalty, a missed penalty on a Bengals player who removed a helmet — that’s not the case.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:39 PM

Well there are multiple people in here on both sides of this – and they all think the refs were against their team.
I personally saw a lousy game all the way around, where the refs made bad calls both ways, and didn’t call things they should have.

According to the announcers, the refs were really going to call the game tight to keep it from getting out of hand – and they clearly failed at that.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:51 PM

I just couldn’t understand how grown ups who are getting paid so much couldn’t just play the damn game. Seriously, it seemed like they had some kind of mass psychosis going on.

tomas on January 12, 2016 at 4:53 PM

If “off the field” were a determining factor for excessive celebration, why would the Lambeau Leap have been designated special status? It’s off the field. It would have been irrelevant.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:54 PM

This is gang warfare and Goodall should put a stop to it.

inspectorudy on January 12, 2016 at 4:48 PM

I agree – but Goodall is too focused on all the wrong things – and as a result, I think he seems to be actually helping to destroy the game.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:55 PM

I personally saw a lousy game all the way around, where the refs made bad calls both ways, and didn’t call things they should have.

According to the announcers, the refs were really going to call the game tight to keep it from getting out of hand – and they clearly failed at that.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:51 PM

Wholly agree. For either team’s fans to say the refs were biased toward the other team is ridiculous.

The Steelers did not so much win as the Bengals lost it. And lost it not because of playing mistakes but childish behavior.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 4:57 PM

the NFL today is mostly comprised of inner black thugs with all the culture that brings with it.

HugoDrax on January 12, 2016 at 3:08 PM

Yeah, just to be blunt, they need more white guys in the NFL. The NFL scouts had become so obsessed with, who can run the 40 yard dash the fastest, they missed some key components of the game. The team with the most white players for the last few decades has been the Patriots, and no coincidence, they have been by far the most successful. More diversity is needed in the NFL, no doubt about it.

cimbri on January 12, 2016 at 4:58 PM

libfreeordie on January 12, 2016 at 4:45 PM

Nice dodge. Try some tap dancing next time.

I’m talking about what is happening on the field. Quit being a racislist like AL spread some feces Sharpton.

SpongePuppy on January 12, 2016 at 5:01 PM

If you want to watch sports instead of gang violence, last night’s college final is the way to go.

It was an awesome game, even though I was pulling for the Tigers. Saban’s bold call was a master stroke timed perfectly.

hillbillyjim on January 12, 2016 at 5:01 PM

libfreeordie on January 12, 2016 at 4:45 PM

You are the racist. I never said BLACK gangs. Whites have gangs, Latinos have gangs.

I only said “GANG CULTURE”

You are the racist that interpreted that to mean only as BLACKS, you freaking racist.

SpongePuppy on January 12, 2016 at 5:06 PM

I watched the game and was almost laughing at the playground gang fight that broke out in the last minute.

The Steelers didn’t deserve to win that game. But they get their comeuppance next week in Denver, playing against that defense without Antonio Brown and probably Rothlisberger too.

But if the Bengals had won, their reward would have been playing the Patriots, in Foxboro, in January, with Edelman, Hightower, Jones, and Collins back on the field. With a backup QB and 3 guys suspended.

rockmom on January 12, 2016 at 5:07 PM

Your first mistake is that you’re a “die-hard Steelers fan.” Your second mistake is mentioning Porter’s role in the chaos. Steelers coaches have a history of stepping into the field of play to alter situations. See, Tomlin, Mike and keeping player from scoring.

DepthTested on January 12, 2016 at 4:29 PM

A+

Yesterday’s “Monday Morning Quarterback” by Sports Illustrated’s Peter King dove into the Porter angle; he was definitely on the field illegally.

King also wrote that Porter himself has a history of this type of behavior.

Del Dolemonte on January 12, 2016 at 5:07 PM

Not sure if the Steelers deserved to win, but the Bengals deserved to lose.

On the play where Burfict was penalized, the ball had already gone past the receiver incomplete over a second before Burfict hit him in the head. Burfict should have seen this and tried to slow down and either avoid the receiver or hit him in the midsection.

Without the blow to the head, it would have been Pittsburgh ball at the Cincy 47, with no time-outs and 18 seconds left. It would have been difficult for Pittsburgh to gain 15 yards to get into field-goal range, and either run out of bounds or spike the ball for a field goal within 18 seconds. Burfict’s stupid and malicious play led to an easy win for the Steelers.

Football is by its nature a rough game, but every effort should be made to prevent players from inflicting blows to the head on each other. If a defensive player is trying to tackle a ball-carrier, the most effective way is for the defender to hit him as low as possible, to knock his legs out from under him. Blows to the head running full speed are only intended to injure the opponent, not tackle him.

Steve Z on January 12, 2016 at 5:07 PM

So Trump coming out and talking about the wussification of the NFL after that game?

Trump’s like Teddy Roosevelt on steroids…but without being a war hero and all that.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 12, 2016 at 5:13 PM

If prison gang violence is your cup of tea, you should try watching the WWF. It’s more entertaining and civilized than the NFL.

Stepan on January 12, 2016 at 5:19 PM

Don’t just blame black thugs for this. I was at a party where people were cheering that Big Ben got hurt. I like to talk smack with the other team but that was just crazy and I was surprised by it. We are getting what we want it seems.

There were 6 arrests at the game as well and they weren’t black.

tomas on January 12, 2016 at 5:27 PM

I’m a life long Bengals fan. Been there through some dark times, and Sunday was an embarrassment. Perhaps the worst. The Bengals gave that game away through an inability to control themselves.

That said, And I appreciate that Ed is willing to assign blame to both sides. That is a lot more than the media and many Steelers fans are able to do.

The Refs are mostly to blame for it in my opinion though, because they seem to have an inability to call any games cleanly.

If you are going to flag Burfict for that hit at the end (and I have no problem with it) than you have to flag the hit that was blatantly helmet to helmet earlier that knocked out Bernard. Not review it and then give the Steelers the ball for knocking a guy unconscious. Totally fine to flag Adam Jones at the end too, but you have to flag the Steelers coach who shouldn’t been on the field and only was to instigate trouble with the Bengals. That coach was awarded a game ball for doing so after the game.

This game didn’t happen in a vaccum, and there is a lot of bad blood and cheap hits in the history of these two teams. The best way to keep in in control is to call the game evenly, which the NFL seems unable to do when it involves certain “upper tier” teams.

gaijinpundit on January 12, 2016 at 5:42 PM

Hey Bengals…

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

deep breath….

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

take it.

You Lose Sir! Good Day Sir!

Dino V on January 12, 2016 at 5:45 PM

The Shazier hit was completely legal according to the rules which is why it wasn’t flagged.

NoDonkey on January 12, 2016 at 1:54 PM

The only thing that made the Shazier hit legal is that the ref didn’t throw a flag. The rule is too vague – if the ref thinks it was intentional it’s a foul, if the ref thinks it wasn’t then it isn’t.

Shazier lowered his head and hit the guy with the top of his helmet. He had no intention of tackling him. That should be a foul.

kcewa on January 12, 2016 at 5:45 PM

Don’t just blame black thugs for this. I was at a party where people were cheering that Big Ben got hurt. I like to talk smack with the other team but that was just crazy and I was surprised by it. We are getting what we want it seems.

There were 6 arrests at the game as well and they weren’t black.

tomas on January 12, 2016 at 5:27 PM

I completely enjoyed the game and was glad to see Big Ben get hit. Pittsburgh has put out many QB’s over the years. If Rush thinks this game was bad he missed the ’85 Raiders/Bears Game. We have become a nation of Girly Men.

alanstern on January 12, 2016 at 5:47 PM

I miss Gayle Sayers.

BuckeyeSam on January 12, 2016 at 5:53 PM

I meant the ’84 Raider/Bear Game.

alanstern on January 12, 2016 at 6:00 PM

I don’t wish for anyone to get hurt.

tomas on January 12, 2016 at 6:22 PM

gaijinpundit on January 12, 2016 at 5:42 PM

Not the same. Sad pathetic Bengal fan.

That was just funny and totally entertaining to watch. They are in the entertainment business after all! I think the owners and refs and comissh forget that a lot.

greencalliope on January 12, 2016 at 3:06 PM

Laughable rationalization.

Shazier lowered his head and hit the guy with the top of his helmet. He had no intention of tackling him. That should be a foul.

kcewa on January 12, 2016 at 5:45 PM

Another lame rationalization. He hit a runner…helmet to helmet happens all the time. Psst how did Shazier know in that .08 of a second that the runner would turn into Shazier’s path?

Not dirty…

Your tears…delish.

Yesterday’s “Monday Morning Quarterback” by Sports Illustrated’s Peter King dove into the Porter angle; he was definitely on the field illegally.

King also wrote that Porter himself has a history of this type of behavior.

Del Dolemonte on January 12, 2016 at 5:07 PM

Watch the video …you’ll see a Bengal intentionally walk into Porter’s back prior to the gals meltdown. Let’s not act like the NFL enforces the rule about coaches on the field …pure bs.

Oh and see. http://m.imgur.com/QbwOK9k

Get those yellow hankies out. Ye master of Nfl purity…the irony.

According to the announcers, the refs were really going to call the game tight to keep it from getting out of hand – and they clearly failed at that.

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 4:51 PM

This.

CWforFreedom on January 12, 2016 at 6:36 PM

We have a man running for president who is crude rude and uncouth. Not to mention the criminal female on the dem side……..don’t look for things to get better in America any time soon.

Lee Jan on January 12, 2016 at 7:02 PM

Watch the video …you’ll see a Bengal intentionally walk into Porter’s back prior to the gals meltdown. Let’s not act like the NFL enforces the rule about coaches on the field …pure bs.

Oh and see. http://m.imgur.com/QbwOK9k

Get those yellow hankies out. Ye master of Nfl purity…the irony.

CWforFreedom on January 12, 2016 at 6:36 PM

This is a pretty good explanation of what happened. It’s not like Porter purposely wandered into the middle of the Bengals prayer circle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wysECduSPfk&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 7:13 PM

If the refs are supposed to set the tone, they should have ejected Munchak and let everyone know this wasn’t going to be tolerated ANYWHERE on the field. It would have been an ejection that would not have influenced the game’s outcome in ANY way (the loss of an assistant coach?) and would have had the impact of stating zero tolerance for this stuff. That’s where they blew it.

Whomever commented on the Alabama/Clemson game above got it right. It was one of the best games I’ve ever seen and was under control the entire time. That was just great football regardless of who you were for. The NFL should hire that group of refs.

NoPain on January 12, 2016 at 7:17 PM

It will take a shooting or stabbing death on the field for the NFL and other major leagues to straighten their act.

banzaibob on January 12, 2016 at 7:36 PM

So is two people dancing in the end zone, but that’s a penalty.

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 3:09 PM

Just a quick follow-up that hit me on the way home:
When its 2 guys, especially football players, dancing together – that should ALWAYS be a penalty, no matter where they are….
Obligatory “not that there’s anything wrong with that” of course……

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2016 at 7:46 PM

Pittsburgh is a horrible organization and they prove it repeatedly. A simple Google search of the dirtiest team in the NFL brings up the Steelers in multiple surveys.

They’re playing the Broncos next, a team that saw one of their safeties taken out by a cheap shot to the head by the Steelers after the whistle. Of course, the Steelers tried to justify it with twisted morals and a firm grip on fantasy.

Rush is right, the NFL and officials are to blame for letting them get away with it all. The players admitted using steroids in the 70’s, and somewhat recently their team doctor, Dr. Rydze, was caught peddling steroids. James Harrison was named in that recent HGH report, regardless of it being quickly recanted (I’m sure the NFL has enough money to make that nightmare go away.) It’s an organization with a culture for causing serious harm outside of normal football. Their coaches interfere with the plays, pull hair, cuss out opposing players. Their players go out of their way to cause concussions, twist ankles, gouge eyes, twist facemasks, hit after the whistle, spit, grab crotches, you name it.

This game was destined to end the way it did. The Steelers cried about a mythical dirty hit on a perfectly normal and legal tackle the first time these two played, vowing that Vontaze Burfict would “get his” and one player going so far as threatening to jump him in the offseason, despite no dirty plays out of the Bengals. The second game started with the Steelers picking a fight with Burfict by himself trying to talk to the guy that threatened him on Twitter. It followed with the Steelers taking out the league-leading scorer with a cheap shot to the head, gouging eyes, etc. This last game again started out with the Steelers going after Eifert’s head on an illegal hit that wasn’t flagged, then taking out their best running back on another illegal hit to the head. Meanwhile, you watch a Bengals player with a perfectly legal hit get flagged for what the two Steelers players should’ve been flagged for.

Burfict tries to go lower on his hit on receiver Antonio Brown, who can be seen on the replay actually lowering his helmet into the hit to draw the flag. Good call, but malicious intent can’t be proven like the clear cut head hunters on Pittsburgh. One coach pulls hair like a little girl, another coach goes on the field to start a fight, and the ref throws the flag on a guy who accidently bumps him trying to get the coach (on the field illegally) to leave. Adam Jones might be lucky to be a free man, but his on-field problems are extremely rare.

The NFL is turning into the WWE. The league supposedly cares about player safety while letting Pittsburgh take out players to win and simply pay a fine. Money well spent in their eyes. The Bengals took out zero Steelers due to cheap shots, like the Broncos. Yet the Steelers took out two Bengals on dirty hits and one Broncos player. They’ll keep paying the fines and winning while the NFL enjoys the money they collect from the team, and the team’s enormous revenue.

Antonio Brown will play Sunday, and the Steelers will once again take out a Broncos player and then cry and whine about the Broncos being dirty. Straight out of the Nazi playbook. My advice? Stick to the NCAA, much more entertaining and far less scripted. The NFL will have its FIFA moment soon.

Buckeye Conservative on January 12, 2016 at 8:31 PM

Mashman on January 12, 2016 at 2:16 PM

Someone suggested that the Pittsburgh’s Ryan Shazier should get a pass, because he went to Ohio State. I said that any kid who went to school in Ohio and joins the Steelers, gets his Ohio citizenship revoked. It’s only a hair better than joining ISIS.

VastRightWingConspirator on January 12, 2016 at 8:35 PM

0-7

26 seasons since last playoff win

Two 15 yard penalties

STILL HILARIOUS!!!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Dino V on January 12, 2016 at 8:41 PM

I guess Rush has never been to an Oakland Raider game in Oakland.
Good times man, good times.

Survival of the fittest at a good Raider game, similar to holding your own in the pit back with Slayer.

Voodoo Chile on January 12, 2016 at 8:50 PM

Ed,

The cause of the loss of common decency is simple. Some people view rules as a fence between good neighbors that is to be respected; far too many others view rules as a tripwire that you try to avoid activating while crossing over them.

The tripwire approach has been growing in recent years. You can see it in our politics (politicians lie with impunity and no fear of reprisal), our government (Executive Orders are issued in violation of our constitution, knowing we have to spend money and may even lack “standing” to sue to protect our rights), our businesses (insurance claims are denied or false charges are added to accounts know that it is cheaper for the average American to pay, then to fight), our colleges (professors deny fact because it doesn’t fit a narrative and fail students that disagree), and our sports (as shown in your piece).

Unless the fence-minders among us start to hold the others to account for their misdeeds, all decency in society will be lost.

EdmundBurke247 on January 12, 2016 at 9:28 PM

The league is bringing in gang bangers into the NFL and you’re surprised this stuff happens.

We’re one incident away from a ‘Last Boy Scout’ movie scene of a player whipping out a gun and shooting other players so he can score a TD.

thesorcerer on January 12, 2016 at 10:26 PM

Were fans really urinating on each other? I didn’t see anything about that

Dollayo on January 12, 2016 at 11:43 PM

Yesterday’s “Monday Morning Quarterback” by Sports Illustrated’s Peter King dove into the Porter angle; he was definitely on the field illegally.

King also wrote that Porter himself has a history of this type of behavior.

Del Dolemonte on January 12, 2016 at 5:07 PM

Watch the video …you’ll see a Bengal intentionally walk into Porter’s back prior to the gals meltdown. Let’s not act like the NFL enforces the rule about coaches on the field …pure bs.

Oh and see. http://m.imgur.com/QbwOK9k

Get those yellow hankies out. Ye master of Nfl purity…the irony.

CWforFreedom on January 12, 2016 at 6:36 PM

I never injected my own opinion into my original post, all I did was relay what SI’s Peter King said.

F-#1.

Oh and see. http://m.imgur.com/QbwOK9k

Get those yellow hankies out. Ye master of Nfl purity…the irony.

CWforFreedom on January 12, 2016 at 6:36 PM

This is a pretty good explanation of what happened. It’s not like Porter purposely wandered into the middle of the Bengals prayer circle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wysECduSPfk&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

byepartisan on January 12, 2016 at 7:13 PM

I never injected my own opinion into my original post, all I did was relay what SI’s Peter King said.

F-#2.

Del Dolemonte on January 12, 2016 at 11:58 PM

Were fans really urinating on each other? I didn’t see anything about that

Dollayo on January 12, 2016 at 11:43 PM

Cincy.com:

Martin Cooke, 33, of Germantown, Kentucky, was arrested after police said he urinated on the person in front of him in Paul Brown Stadium. Cooke, who wore a Bengals hoodie, is accused of fighting with the man and punching him in the face, court documents state. He is facing disorderly conduct and assault charges. Cooke is scheduled to appear in court Monday.

The official term for peeing on someone you also happened to punch in the face? Urination altercation, according to police records.

But before you Steelers fans get too happy…

CBS

According to WCPO, in addition to the aforementioned peeing bandit, five other men were arrested following the game — two Bengals fans and three Steelers fans — on charges that ranged from carrying a fake ID, underage consumption of alcohol and theft; throwing a beer can at a Bengals fan and head-butting a man in the face. Two of the men were charged with striking a woman in the face, and another allegedly struck a woman in the head as he was being escorted out of the stadium by authorities.

Classy!

/

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2016 at 12:06 AM

The softness that Trump is referring to is on the part of the police, the commissioner, owners, coaches and the referees and the behavior of the players and the fans is a byproduct of that softness.

edrebber on January 13, 2016 at 12:12 AM

Sports Illustrated’s Peter King, on Joey Porter:

News item: About that Adam Jones penalty in Cincinnati … Steelers linebackers coach Joey Porter, who caused the crucial unsportsmanlike-conduct penalty on Jones to happen in the final seconds Saturday night, should not have been on the field at the time. The league allows medical personnel and the head coach to be on the field; the reason Porter wasn’t shooed away, I am told, is that there was real concern for Antonio Brown as he lay on the ground after the hit from Vontaze Burfict that generated the first 15-yard flag on the play. Without the flag on Jones, the Steelers would have been at the Cincinnati 32 with no timeouts and 18 seconds left. With the flag on Jones, they were in position to try a 35-yard field goal by Chris Boswell. It was good, and Pittsburgh won 18-16.

So, two issues here: Porter, from replays, was hanging around the Cincinnati defensive players at one point, which absolutely should have been policed by the officiating crew on hand. One former coach who faced Porter and the Steelers several times said Sunday he was one of the best players in the league at saying incendiary things to opponents and hoping they’d pop off and get a penalty. After the game, Jones told Mike Silver of NFL Network: “He ain’t supposed to be on the [expletive] field! He was talking all kinds of [expletive], yelling at [Burfict], saying, ‘You a dirty son of a b—- … Take your b—- a– out of here …’ ”

When Jones tried to get at Porter—stupidly, of course—Jones jostled field judge Buddy Horton, who threw the flag on him. If Porter was doing the trolling that Jones described on the field, he should have been flagged first, because he wasn’t supposed to be out there in the first place. But Jones, in that situation, had to be smart enough to walk away, and he wasn’t. The league has been telling officials to cut down on the offsetting penalties, to flag the instigator in cases where the two sides are both wrong. In this case, if Jones is correct in what he says about Porter, I believe Porter got away with instigating this.

We’re done here…..

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2016 at 1:09 AM

Still Funny!!!

hahahahahahahaha!

Losers do as Losers do!

hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Dino V on January 13, 2016 at 8:26 AM

I’d bet that a lot of the players enjoy the violence of the game, including both giving and receiving hard hits, and have fun with the gouging, twisting, punching, etc., that goes on in the piles. Same with the trash talking. And I’d bet that the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens have extra fun playing each other because of all that. Of course, there have always been players who don’t enjoy that aspect of the game and just avoid it. There are probably more of these players nowadays than in the past, but the rough SOB’s are undoubtedly still there.

justltl on January 13, 2016 at 10:06 AM

It would seem the NFL has gone soft, just not in the way Trump seemed to mean it. It would seem the officials didn’t control the game as they should. The coach that pulled the hair of a Bengals player should have been ejected from the game in addition to the penalty.

If officials won’t control the game, using judicious ejections when lines are crossed, you do get a wussification of the NFL and coaches and players simply become thugs rather than players.

Quartermaster on January 13, 2016 at 11:16 AM

More and more, that discipline has given way to “emotion,” as announcers call it, or what the rest of us call displays of narcissistic self-indulgence.

You claim Trump is wrong that the NFL has gone “soft” and then you go on to explain exactly how it’s gone “soft.”

Lack of discipline = going “soft.’

The TDS knows no bounds

Dark Star on January 13, 2016 at 11:22 AM

still cant figure how Burfict didn’t get a delay of game or unsportsmanlike conduct for running off field after the INT

Mr Soames on January 13, 2016 at 6:07 PM

STILL HILARIOUS!!!

YOU LOSE SIR! GOOD DAY SIR!!!

Stupid Loser Bengals!

Dino V on January 14, 2016 at 12:13 PM

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