Josh Earnest: Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship just 18 months ago, you know

posted at 6:41 pm on January 6, 2016 by Allahpundit

Not the first time Earnest has trolled Cruz about his foreign pedigree from the highest podium in the land. Two months ago, after the Toronto Blue Jays won their playoff series against the Rangers, he referred to them as “Ted Cruz’s other hometown team.” Cruz was born in Calgary, not Toronto, but whatever. Like I said last night: After years of Obama being badgered about his birth certificate, liberals are going to relish the Trump/Cruz war. Earnest makes no bones about it:

White House press secretary Josh Earnest said “it would be quite ironic” if, after years of questions surrounding Obama’s U.S. citizenship, Republican primary voters were to choose the Canadian-born Cruz as their nominee.

Earnest noted Cruz is “somebody who actually wasn’t born in the United States and only 18 months ago renounced his Canadian citizenship.”

Asked whether Obama is enjoying watching Cruz deal with questions about his birthplace, Earnest replied, “I don’t know if he does, but I sure do.”

This goes back to the left’s theory that Trump is some sort of populist poltergeist inadvertently conjured by Beltway Republicans from the hatred of Obama they used to pander to their base. Now Trumpenstein is going to punish them for their sins, with Cruz made to suffer for the sin of Birtherism. That’s one way to explain Trump’s political origins; here’s another way, via Jonathan Last, which lies closer to home for Earnest.

I suspect that when we look back on the Obama years honestly—not just through the filtered light of the ceremonies as they dedicate his monument on the Mall—we will see that he ushered in a new era in American politics where ideology gave way to identity and tribalism.

And that by marrying the politics of identity to expanded executive authority and hyper-partisanship, he fundamentally changed America’s political compact. Think about the list of Obama’s most important accomplishments: the passage of Obamacare; the Obergefell verdict; mass amnesty; the Iran nuclear deal; the climate change treaty; and now his dictum on firearms. Not one of these programs had a solid majority of public support. And consequently, none of them were accomplished by normal legislative means…

[P]erhaps what’s most telling about Donald Trump’s rise is that the reaction of his supporters has not been (so far) to search for a leader who will return the political order to the old equilibrium. Instead, they seem to assume that the post-Obama political world will continue along tribalistic lines. And they want their own strongman.

Right. The question is, would President Cruz or President Rubio be any more inclined to return the political order to what it was? This is why conservatives are (or should be) nervous about the precedents Obama has set in using executive authority to push his agenda. David Harsanyi’s not blowing smoke when he says that Obama-style government, in which the president is morally justified in acting if Congress can’t or won’t, essentially rests on the idea “that Congress has a responsibility to pass laws on the issues that the president desires or else they would be abdicating their responsibility.” That’s not how three “co-equal” branches are supposed to operate, but that model will be enormously seductive for any president, right or left, who follows Obama. If President Cruz wants a tax cut and his base is screaming for a tax cut, why shouldn’t he decree a tax cut by ordering the IRS not to collect revenue above a certain percentage from each taxpayer? What makes Trump ominous to people who don’t support him is that he seems eager to wield that sort of power whereas the rest of the field will do it “reluctantly” and circumstantially once in office. But I think it’s strongmen all the way down after O. He may think gun control or ObamaCare is his legacy, but as Harsanyi says, that’ll be his deeper legacy in the fullness of time.


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I thought Obama made all talk of citizenship “off the table”…

SailorMark on January 6, 2016 at 6:44 PM

Is this they will tell you who they fear. Or is this they want cruz as the nominee? I’m always getting confused on which statement we have to apply

OrthodoxJew on January 6, 2016 at 6:46 PM

great, wow, trump’s comments give the left an opening to bash cruz on this issue. goodness it’s almost as if trump is a leftist.

Sachiko on January 6, 2016 at 6:47 PM

Well, Josh, at least Cruz isn’t busily destroying our Constitutional separation of powers piecemeal, like your Deceiver-in-Chief of a boss.

Earnest is a worse tool than Gibbs, who was awful.

hillbillyjim on January 6, 2016 at 6:47 PM

Has Obama ever renounced his Indonesian citizenship?

ConstantineXI on January 6, 2016 at 6:48 PM

Ted Cruz could have been born in Nazi Germany and swaddled with a swastika flag and he would be a million times more American than that a$$hole “Josh Earnest” works for.

*spit*

turfmann on January 6, 2016 at 6:48 PM

if trump is not a leftist, why is he repeating the left’s attacks on ted cruz?

trump is on their side.

Sachiko on January 6, 2016 at 6:48 PM

Cruz was born in North America,…..close enough!

canopfor on January 6, 2016 at 6:49 PM

I demand that Oboozle renounce his hideous mommy pants publicly.

And a resignation would be nice.

hillbillyjim on January 6, 2016 at 6:50 PM

I have a serious issue with any Representative/Senator that holds duel citizenship, and there are quite a few who go to serious lengthens to hide it from the public.

Scottie on January 6, 2016 at 6:51 PM

Obamao is an un-American thug due to his ideas and the way he was raised, loving the sound of Muslim prayers and eating dog meat. He hates America and his purpose was to destroy the foundations of American society.

Ted Cruz is fully assimilated. He’s also eligible to be president, even if Trump is trolling the birthers for a few votes. No big deal.

sauldalinsky on January 6, 2016 at 6:51 PM

Can we see Obama’s college transcripts now?

No?

Why do you think that is?

artist on January 6, 2016 at 6:52 PM

Cruz was born in North America,…..close enough!

canopfor on January 6, 2016 at 6:49 PM

You can’t trust those shifty Canucks, ya know. Aaay?

Oh wait…!!!!

hillbillyjim on January 6, 2016 at 6:53 PM

I thought that Sophie (RWM) explained a long time ago the automatic citizenship that Canadian-born people receive. In spite of Cruz’s “dual citizenship,” he was the offspring of an American mother and, thus, not naturalized but a natural-born citizen.

Ask Earnest when Obysmal renounced his Indonesian citizenship, the one that allowed him to travel to Pock-ee-stohn and to enjoy a college education as a foreign student.

onlineanalyst on January 6, 2016 at 6:53 PM

The Constitution says the President must be a natural born citizen. But it doesn’t say of what country.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States

Magicjava on January 6, 2016 at 6:54 PM

Does this mean that C-section babies are disallowed?

hillbillyjim on January 6, 2016 at 6:55 PM

Ted Cruz and his father don’t hate America.

Obama and his father, well……

portlandon on January 6, 2016 at 6:57 PM

Can we see Obama’s college transcripts now?

No?

Why do you think that is?

artist on January 6, 2016 at 6:52 PM

It’s OK, it isn’t like obama has used different names of completely different Social Security numbers or anything.

Uh, wait, never mind…..

Johnnyreb on January 6, 2016 at 6:58 PM

Trollin’ is right.

INC on January 6, 2016 at 6:59 PM

Trump, Alan Grayson, ‘Team Obama’, Ann Coulter, and Rand Paul have joined forces against Ted Cruz and the FACTS.

Pork-Chop on January 6, 2016 at 6:59 PM

I like Ted Cruz and I like Trump who I personally believe can win it – either would be fine with me as president and those are the only two possible candidates I will vote in November…

Otherwise I will sit out the first presidential election since I was old enough to vote – and that was for Ronald Reagan.

But let’s not get ahead of ourselves here…

The last thing we need is a constitutional challenge (or a pretend one via political ads) for a nominated candidate – it’s better to get this out in the open now and deal with it rather than later after the nominee is chosen.

I think this is simply attempt #20761 to turn decent hardworking Americans against Trump.

If there could be a problem then let’s resolve it here and now!

celt on January 6, 2016 at 7:01 PM

Trump, Alan Grayson, ‘Team Obama’, Ann Coulter, and Rand Paul have joined forces against Ted Cruz and the FACTS.

Pork-Chop on January 6, 2016 at 6:59 PM

You can always tell a John by the whores they bed down with.

portlandon on January 6, 2016 at 7:01 PM

great, wow, trump’s comments give the left an opening to bash cruz on this issue. goodness it’s almost as if trump is a leftist.

Sachiko on January 6, 2016 at 6:47 PM

What are you worried about? I mean, it’s not true, right?

fossten on January 6, 2016 at 7:01 PM

Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship just 18 months ago

But Cruz renounced his legalization for all the illegals position just 6 months ago.

Or did he?

And Cruz renounced his no to ethanol position just yesterday.

Or did he?

And I’m not sure if Cruz ever renounced his stated position that anchor babies should stay and become full-fledged citizens.

“I want immigration reform to pass.” -Ted Cruz

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 7:01 PM

Trump, Alan Grayson, ‘Team Obama’, Ann Coulter, and Rand Paul have joined forces against Ted Cruz and the FACTS.

Pork-Chop on January 6, 2016 at 6:59 PM

Ah yes, those lawyers’ opinions that you linked earlier are FACTS now. Excuse me while I LOL.

fossten on January 6, 2016 at 7:02 PM

Sachiko on January 6, 2016

Well, there must another leftist amongst the Republican candidates as well, then.

lineholder on January 6, 2016 at 7:05 PM

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 7:01 PM

Did Trump renounce his Scottish Citizenship.

RickB on January 6, 2016 at 7:05 PM

Cruz was born in North America,…..close enough!

canopfor on January 6, 2016 at 6:49 PM

‘Specially after the US annexes the great white north so we can take all that snow.

cozmo on January 6, 2016 at 7:06 PM

Cruz was born in North America,…..close enough!

canopfor on January 6, 2016 at 6:49 PM

Vote for Ted Cruz and prove you don’t hate Canadians.

Equal Rights For Canadians! When do we want it? Now!

VorDaj on January 6, 2016 at 7:07 PM

Ouch. I’ve read of this renouncing a lot around here the last few days…and now, in chorus with Josh Earnest.
Pass the popcorn.

HornetSting on January 6, 2016 at 7:08 PM

if trump is not a leftist, why is he repeating the left’s attacks on ted cruz?

trump is on their side.

Sachiko on January 6, 2016 at 6:48 PM

Says the guy who pretty much only posts Anti-Trump posts here. Concerned troll is even more concerned…

Cue the youtube dramatic chipmunk…

celt on January 6, 2016 at 7:09 PM

It’s not Ted’s fault that American didn’t invade and annex Canada before he was born.

VorDaj on January 6, 2016 at 7:10 PM

Did obama renounce his Kenyan or British citizenship.

RickB on January 6, 2016 at 7:11 PM

Does this mean that C-section babies are disallowed?

hillbillyjim on January 6, 2016 at 6:55 PM

You owe me a laptop, hillbilly. I prefer the 13.5 inch, please.

HornetSting on January 6, 2016 at 7:11 PM

Obama has never renounced his Kenyan citizenship to this day, when that coming Josh???

Hawkaz on January 6, 2016 at 7:11 PM

Did Trump renounce his Scottish Citizenship.

RickB on January 6, 2016 at 7:05 PM

Lol. And the Brits (I assume that includes Scotland) are trying to ban Trump from the UK despite Trump owning a bunch of property there:

>>>> U.K. Parliament Will Debate Banning Donald Trump From Country for Muslim Hate Speech

>>>> Donald Trump threatens to pull £700m investment in Scotland: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12085674/Donald-Trump-threatens-to-pull-700m-investment-in-Scotland.html

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 7:12 PM

if trump is not a leftist, why is he repeating the left’s attacks on ted cruz?

trump is on their side.

Sachiko on January 6, 2016 at 6:48 PM

Because, dummy, by getting this issue out in the open and resolved NOW, it inoculates Cruz from an October attack when he’s the VP on Trump’s ticket.

You’re so wrapped up in Trump hate that you can only think linearly.

fossten on January 6, 2016 at 7:13 PM

canopfor on January 6, 2016 at 6:49 PM

‘Specially after the US annexes the great white north so we can take all that snow beavers.

cozmo on January 6, 2016 at 7:06 PM

SpongePuppy on January 6, 2016 at 7:14 PM

TrumpTrolls ITT

Flapjackmaka on January 6, 2016 at 7:15 PM

Because, dummy, by getting this issue out in the open and resolved NOW, it inoculates Cruz from an October attack when he’s the VP on Trump’s ticket.

You’re so wrapped up in Trump hate that you can only think linearly.

fossten on January 6, 2016 at 7:13 PM

yep.

SpongePuppy on January 6, 2016 at 7:15 PM

Did Trump renounce his Scottish Citizenship.

RickB on January 6, 2016 at 7:05 PM

Lol. And the Brits (I assume that includes Scotland) are trying to ban Trump from the UK despite Trump owning a bunch of property there:

>>>> U.K. Parliament Will Debate Banning Donald Trump From Country for Muslim Hate Speech

>>>> Donald Trump threatens to pull £700m investment in Scotland: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12085674/Donald-Trump-threatens-to-pull-700m-investment-in-Scotland.html

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 7:12 PM

Isee you can’t answer a simple question. Since Trump’s mother was a Scottish citizen at the time of his birth did he renounce his Scottish citizenship.

RickB on January 6, 2016 at 7:20 PM

What makes Trump ominous to people who don’t support him is that he seems eager to wield that sort of power whereas the rest of the field will do it “reluctantly” and circumstantially once in office.

It shouldn’t matter whether one is “eager” or “reluctant” to wield such dangerous executive authority (to even consider it is bad enough), but even so, I wouldn’t say that only Trump is “eager” to wield it. Christie might not say it out loud, but he’d govern similarly. So would Rubio. So would Jeb. They all would, except (perhaps) for Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. But even when it comes to a borderline-libertarian (Rand) and a constitutional “conservatarian” (Cruz), it’s anyone’s guess as to how they’d govern once they’re in office (assuming either is actually elected on a platform of reducing executive power). Remember Obama’s laughable-in-hindsight chastising of the Bush administration for its use of executive overreach? Yeah.

Aizen on January 6, 2016 at 7:21 PM

There are levels of stupid I’m not willing to entertain sober.

Axe on January 6, 2016 at 7:22 PM

Cruz can easily put his citizenship issue at rest by making a declaration that he, next day after his inauguration, intends to nullify Obama’s Executive Order 13489 and open a constitutional inquiry into Obama’s eligibility. That will kill two ducks with one shot: pulling the birthers from Trump’s cohort, and forcing the left to be VERY quiet on the matter of his own eligibility.

Rix on January 6, 2016 at 7:23 PM

great, wow, trump’s comments give the left an opening to bash cruz on this issue. goodness it’s almost as if trump is a leftist.

Sachiko on January 6, 2016 at 6:47 PM

Nonsense. The left would have made these attacks anyways. Trump just exposed a known weakness… and it’s better now than in the general election.

dominigan on January 6, 2016 at 7:27 PM

“I want immigration reform to pass.” -Ted Cruz

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 7:01 PM

Ted Cruz: Deport them and leave them Out.
Trump: I want them out and I am going to bring them back expeditiously.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 7:28 PM

We don’t yet know for a fact that Cruz’s mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth. We do know that she was a somewhat permanent resident of Canada at the time, married to a naturalized Canadian citizen. It stands to reason that there’s at least some sort of a chance that she was a Canadian citizen, and at that time, Canada did not allow dual citizenship. If she was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth, he’s as unquestionably ineligible as Arnold Schwartzenegger.

Progressive Heretic on January 6, 2016 at 7:32 PM

Ted Cruz: Deport them and leave them Out.
Trump: I want them out and I am going to bring them back expeditiously LEGALLY.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 7:28 PM

Fixed your lie.

fossten on January 6, 2016 at 7:32 PM

Fixed your lie.

fossten on January 6, 2016 at 7:32 PM

It is not a lie, he said “expedite” which becomes expeditiously.
You can add the legally to it.

Ted Cruz: Deport them and leave them Out.
Trump: I want them out and I am going to bring them back expeditiously as new legal residents to continue taking your jobs, filling your schools with english as a second language children, and creating anchor babies that will collect all the welfare.

Better?

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 7:47 PM

Cruz can easily put his citizenship issue at rest by making a declaration that he, next day after his inauguration, intends to nullify Obama’s Executive Order 13489 and open a constitutional inquiry into Obama’s eligibility. That will kill two ducks with one shot: pulling the birthers from Trump’s cohort, and forcing the left to be VERY quiet on the matter of his own eligibility.

Rix on January 6, 2016 at 7:23 PM

I’m really liking this idea.

smokeyblonde on January 6, 2016 at 7:54 PM

I’ve held Trump and Cruz as equals for my vote until today. But with each passing day Trump resembles the establishment gop more and more. Obama’s tears are real. I’ll let the good ones come back. Today he gives the dems a talking point on a silver platter with his birther nonsense.

Unlike any other establishment candidates, I might be able to vote for Trump; if I had to. But who knows what he will do tomorrow to help two of my biggest political enemies, the left and the establishment gop.

voiceofreason on January 6, 2016 at 7:55 PM

Wasn’t it Hillary’s campaign that started the “Obama was born in Nigeria” meme?

warmairfan on January 6, 2016 at 7:57 PM

Ted Cruz: Deport them and leave them Out.
Trump: I want them out and I am going to bring them back expeditiously.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 7:28 PM

As was my reply to you in the other thread:

If that were true it could make a difference in Iowa.

But…

Although further clarification from Trump could not hurt, the consensus is that once a deported illegal is deported by Trump then even Trump wouldn’t have the power to bring him back except through the arduous legal process. Get in line like the rest.

It’s good that Cruz says he won’t bring any deported illegals back, but the problem is that Cruz has said he opposes Trump’s mass deportation plan (and supports mass legalization instead). You can’t bring back those that you don’t deport.

Further, as far as whether Cruz’s immigration policy is superior to Trump’s, the inescapable fact is that Cruz REJECTED Trump’s blanket ban on Muslim immigration:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cruz-on-trumps-proposed-muslim-ban-no-thats-not-my-policy/article/2577822

Cruz says it’s about terrorism and doing a limited ban from just a few select countries. Not good enough, and it’s not just about terrorism. It’s about that we don’t want this country to turn into Europe, and Cruz’s non-blanket ban leaves the brunt of the frighteningly high levels of Muslim immigration in place. How can we “vet” the future children of the the millions of future Muslim immigrants? We can’t.

Cruz has always been pro-immigration and a globalist. Trump is the answer for this election cycle so we can deal the most effectively with the critical immigration issue. Cruz can come later.

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 7:58 PM

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 7:58 PM

You really do not believe in your candidate, do you?
I can see no other reason for you to keep lying.

Congress would want all those illegals back, all it takes is for him to simply say, make it happen it will happen. The reason we want a strong on immigration President is because congress cannot be trusted with the issue. If Trump does not get the legislation to bring them back, and cannot blanket executive order the process sped up for them, he will probably decide deporting them is no longer the path to go.

On the other hand. Cruz has been steadfast for as long as he has been in the senate in that you enforce the law which is the exact same thing as deport them. He also has always wanted to build the wall, as well as triple the border patrol to keep them out. He is also on record going all the way back to his campaign to increasing interior enforcement to catch more. And he is on record as saying he will not give them any legalization, citizenship or amnesty ever period.

Trump: I want them out to bring them back quickly and legally.
Cruz: Enforce the law and keep them out and never give them legal status.

Cruz is better. On this, On Ethanol, on Muslims.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:07 PM

I think this is awesome. Ted Cruz is now playing the Dem WH and their MSM and his poll numbers will rise. I think Trump and Cruz will form an unbeatable partnership. They are totally pwning the MSM and they’re too stupid to realize it. Brilliant.

Yeah, ok call me crazy.

Key West Reader on January 6, 2016 at 8:10 PM

great, wow, trump’s comments give the left an opening to bash cruz on this issue. goodness it’s almost as if trump is a leftist.

Sachiko

Good point. The left never would have figured this out on their own. Kind of like how they never figured out Romney was rich.

Goodness, it’s almost like you’re a clueless leftist.

xblade on January 6, 2016 at 8:11 PM

Cruz is better.. on Muslims.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:07 PM

Not sure how you get that, given:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cruz-on-trumps-proposed-muslim-ban-no-thats-not-my-policy/article/2577822

Trump proposes a broad near 100% ban on Muslim immigration.

Cruz proposes a very limited ban (like 5%).

Cruz’s plan would keep us on the same disastrous path of every increasing levels of insidious Muslim immigration. This should have been a no-brainer for Cruz, but no.

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 8:12 PM

I think this is awesome. Ted Cruz is now playing the Dem WH and their MSM and his poll numbers will rise. I think Trump and Cruz will form an unbeatable partnership. They are totally pwning the MSM and they’re too stupid to realize it. Brilliant.

Yeah, ok call me crazy.

Key West Reader on January 6, 2016 at 8:10 PM

Hey KWR. No crazy, but there will be a whole lot of crow eating around here.

HornetSting on January 6, 2016 at 8:14 PM

Yeah, ok call me crazy.

Key West Reader on January 6, 2016 at 8:10 PM

Not crazy. I wondered about the same thing for a while.

lineholder on January 6, 2016 at 8:15 PM

Ted Cruz: Deport them and leave them Out.
Trump: I want them out and I am going to bring them back expeditiously.
Constipationalist(aka not2bright): I lie.

FIFY.

xblade on January 6, 2016 at 8:16 PM

I’ve held Trump and Cruz as equals for my vote until today. But with each passing day Trump resembles the establishment gop more and more. Obama’s tears are real. I’ll let the good ones come back. Today he gives the dems a talking point on a silver platter with his birther nonsense.

Unlike any other establishment candidates, I might be able to vote for Trump; if I had to. But who knows what he will do tomorrow to help two of my biggest political enemies, the left and the establishment gop.

voiceofreason on January 6, 2016 at 7:55 PM

I think what Trump did was brilliant, and I believe that Cruz is fine with it, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they consulted together in anticipation of mass media coverage which would elevate both candidates into the spot light, together.

f you go back and read what Trump said verbatim, you will see that is is letting the Dems know that Cruz will take pre-emptive measures to ward off the coming Clinton lawsuit over Cruz’s eligibility to run.

The DNC and their lapdogs at the MSM … Can you imagine how stupid they feel now? Heh.

Brilliant.

Key West Reader on January 6, 2016 at 8:19 PM

FACT:

If Ted Cruz’s mother was a naturalized Canadian citizen at the time of his birth Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen because she would have had to renounce her American citizenship.

Nor would be even be an American citizen. Unless the Cruz people now think all Canadians who are born of two Canadian parents are suddenly Americans.

NWConservative on January 6, 2016 at 8:21 PM

Trump proposes a broad near 100% ban on Muslim immigration.

Cruz proposes a very limited ban (like 5%).

Cruz’s plan would keep us on the same disastrous path of every increasing levels of insidious Muslim immigration. This should have been a no-brainer for Cruz, but no.

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 8:12 PM

48 months, Trump says the ban will be short term, can be ended quickly if the government gets its act together, I am sure that he thinks he has his act together. So lets be generous and say 3 months. So, that will stop all of 6.25% of the Muslims, assuming that the backlog created in that ban period does not get completed in the newly competent Trump Government. In which case it stops no Muslims what so ever.

Cruz will target where the problem Muslims come from and stop immigration from those places. So while it might only stop maybe 5% of Muslims, it will stop the worst of them. Meaning that we are going to be safer and stop far more than 5% of the worse of them.

I see that as superior to Trumps temporary ban.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:23 PM

FIFY.

xblade on January 6, 2016 at 8:16 PM

The quality of posts by you is beyond amazing and just goes into unbelievable! You just keep up the good work, and before long, people are gonna be knocking down your door trying to hire you for a gig.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:25 PM

Did Kenya grant Obama citizenship based on him being the progeny of a Kenyan citizen? Has Obama denounced that? Did Obama claim it in his Harvard application? Can we have a look see?

besser tot als rot on January 6, 2016 at 8:26 PM

FACT:

If Ted Cruz’s mother was a naturalized Canadian citizen at the time of his birth Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen because she would have had to renounce her American citizenship.

Nor would be even be an American citizen. Unless the Cruz people now think all Canadians who are born of two Canadian parents are suddenly Americans.

NWConservative on January 6, 2016 at 8:21 PM

FACT:
If Trump became a naturalized citizen of any of the many places he visits he would have had to have renounced his citizenship, then he is no longer eligible to be President.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:26 PM

Uh … “renounced.” Heh.

besser tot als rot on January 6, 2016 at 8:29 PM

48 months, Trump says the ban will be short term, can be ended quickly if the government gets its act together, I am sure that he thinks he has his act together…

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:23 PM

Obviously you’re trying to paraphrase. That’s a misrepresentation. Trump said that the ban would continue “until we figure out what’s going on.” We will probably never figure that out, and if we did figure that out we wouldn’t want the Muslims immigrating here, period. SO Trump is proposing, in effect, a permanent across the board ban on Muslim immigration. Not Cruz. Cruz rejects that. “It’s not who we are are.” Please. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428204/ted-cruz-rejects-donald-trump-muslim-immigration-ban

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 8:32 PM

FACT:
Some people say there are people out there who will see every Trump action as leading to benefiting his prior personal companies, which would then belong to his children. They will be attacking him along with the media constantly and dragging it out for his entire time in office. Just like Halliburton for Bush and Cheney. Is this what we want to deal with for 4 to 8 years?

See how fun this is when you can argue ifs, and some people say? Hell, you can say just about anything and cause some people to pause.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:36 PM

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 8:32 PM

I meant to add that, as far as Trump’s ban on Muslim immigration, at worst Trump said “it’s possible that it could” last 2 months (if through some freak chance we figured out what’s going on in that time period). But, as you see from my comment above, Trump’s ban is likely to be for all practical purposes a permanent ban.

Bring that permanent ban on Muslim immigration on!

Who here doesn’t want a permanent blanket (complete!) ban? A btw Trump said there’d be exceptions for some athletes and scholars and whatnot. So all is great.

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 8:37 PM

This is what the Democrats call “strategic truth talking”. It’s only a slight non-comprehensive truth, but it still is rare for them and something that they have to carefully craft so that it doesn’t come back to haunt them.

It’s interesting that they don’t want to be seen as coaxing Republicans into voting for Cruz right now by declaring him eligible. I guess that hurts their move against nominee Cruz later on. This way, they can say “hey, we told you we weren’t convinced of Cruz’s eligibility.”.

Grayson, and now Trump, hurt their original plan which was to make Republicans feel comfortable with Cruz’s eligibility and later on come out with: “hey, new legal material has come to light showing that Cruz might not be eligible. We should probably test it in the courts just to make sure everything remains Constitutional!”.

Buddahpundit on January 6, 2016 at 8:37 PM

If President Cruz wants a tax cut and his base is screaming for a tax cut, why shouldn’t he decree a tax cut by ordering the IRS not to collect revenue above a certain percentage from each taxpayer?

Just have the Attorney General use “prosecutorial discretion” not to file charges against anyone* who pays 80% of their taxes.
Presto, a tax cut – no Congress required.
(*offer valid in red states only)

J-Paul00 on January 6, 2016 at 8:38 PM

Obviously you’re trying to paraphrase. That’s a misrepresentation. Trump said that the ban would continue “until we figure out what’s going on.” We will probably never figure that out, and if we did figure that out we wouldn’t want the Muslims immigrating here, period. SO Trump is proposing, in effect, a permanent across the board ban on Muslim immigration. Not Cruz. Cruz rejects that. “It’s not who we are are.” Please. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428204/ted-cruz-rejects-donald-trump-muslim-immigration-ban

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 8:32 PM

The next day he stated it would be “short term”, lifted “very quickly”.
Trump said on ABC’s “World News Tonight” the ban would be “short term.” He said the ban could be lifted “very quickly if our country could get its act together.”

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:40 PM

FACT:
If Ted Cruz’s mother was a naturalized Canadian citizen at the time of his birth Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen because she would have had to renounce her American citizenship.

Nor would be even be an American citizen. Unless the Cruz people now think all Canadians who are born of two Canadian parents are suddenly Americans.
NWConservative on January 6, 2016 at 8:21 PM

Cruz’s mother never became a Canadian citizen. And Cruz was an American citizen from birth, just like the thousands of babies born to American citizens living or serving overseas, every year. As to the Canadian citizenship, Cruz did not know until two years ago that he was granted Canadian citizenship at birth, just like any child born on American soil is automatically an American citizen. As soon as he found out, he renounced it. So rest easy. Cruz is eligible.

fight like a girl on January 6, 2016 at 8:42 PM

“It’s not who we are are.” Please. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428204/ted-cruz-rejects-donald-trump-muslim-immigration-ban

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 8:32 PM

Funny you should use a quote from someone else, and not Cruz. Cruz is for a ban.

Your argument that the ban would be permanent is nonsense. If that was what he intended he would have said it. He did not, but he did say two months and short term.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:42 PM

On the other hand. Cruz has been steadfast for as long as he has been in the senate in that you enforce the law which is the exact same thing as deport them.

I lie

Constitutionalist

In case folks missed it the first time.

xblade on January 6, 2016 at 8:46 PM

Funny you should use a quote from someone else, and not Cruz.

Constitutionalist

Kind of like how you guys use quotes from Jeff Sessions and not Cruz himself to tell us where Cruz stands on legalization…aka amnesty.

xblade on January 6, 2016 at 8:50 PM

The next day he stated it would be “short term”, lifted “very quickly”.
Trump said on ABC’s “World News Tonight” the ban would be “short term.” He said the ban could be lifted “very quickly if our country could get its act together.”

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:40 PM

If that were true that wouldn’t be good. But you won’t give a link. And to say i’m lazy for not googling it and finding the link is ludicrous as the burden of supporting your own arguments is on you, not me.

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 8:50 PM

Because, dummy, by getting this issue out in the open and resolved NOW, it inoculates Cruz from an October attack when he’s the VP on Trump’s ticket.

You’re so wrapped up in Trump hate that you can only think linearly.

fossten on January 6, 2016 at 7:13 PM

Just like Trump wanted to help Obama by getting the issue out in the open and resolved in 2011, because it inoculated Obama from an attack the next year. Very good linear thinking, fossten.

Gelsomina on January 6, 2016 at 8:55 PM

Kind of like how you guys use quotes from Jeff Sessions and not Cruz himself to tell us where Cruz stands on legalization…aka amnesty.

xblade on January 6, 2016 at 8:50 PM

Jeff sessions: Cruz was right there with me working to defeat the Gang of 8 bill
is not the same as taking a quote of him and attributing it to Cruz.
It is a correct usage of the quote, it is correctly attributed.
Yours was falsely attributed.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 9:00 PM

Trump said on ABC’s “World News Tonight” the ban would be “short term.” He said the ban could be lifted “very quickly if our country could get its act together.”

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:40 PM

If that were true that wouldn’t be good. But you won’t give a link. And to say i’m lazy for not googling it and finding the link is ludicrous as the burden of supporting your own arguments is on you, not me.

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 8:50 PM

I provided a direct quote, that is the proof, anyone and everyone can search it and pick their own favored news source for it. It is super easy to do, and I am quite certain other people reading this do it. Arguing that since you are too lazy to do a google search impugns my credibility is an extreme stretch of credulity upon you.
But, since you absolutely positively have to have it.
http://www.breitbart.com

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 9:07 PM

But, since you absolutely positively have to have it.
http://www.breitbart.com

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 9:07 PM

Good. Thanks. I got to run right now, so I’ll check it out later.

anotherJoe on January 6, 2016 at 9:28 PM

Cruz’s mother never became a Canadian citizen.

Where’s your evidence?

And Cruz was an American citizen from birth, just like the thousands of babies born to American citizens living or serving overseas, every year.

Not if she became a naturalized citizen of Canada.

As to the Canadian citizenship, Cruz did not know until two years ago that he was granted Canadian citizenship at birth,

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. And the Canadian citizenship doesn’t matter, his mother becoming a naturalized Canadian is. I fail to see where I talked at all about his dual citizenship disqualifying him.

just like any child born on American soil is automatically an American citizen.

Thanks for supporting anchor babies. You really are pathetic aren’t you?

As soon as he found out, he renounced it. So rest easy. Cruz is eligible.

fight like a girl on January 6, 2016 at 8:42 PM

I don’t care about Cruz’s dual citizenship, I want evidence of his mother’s Canadian status at the time of his birth.

NWConservative on January 6, 2016 at 11:30 PM

The clutching of pearls by the Cruz sycophants is delicious. Many of the same faithful drones for Cruz were swearing the end of the Republic because Obama was “not really” a citizen.
Hypocrisy thy name is Cruz Conservatives….

Bradky on January 7, 2016 at 4:18 AM

After years of Obama being badgered about his birth certificate

Ed completely overlooks/ignores Obama’s admission against interest re: the 14th Amendment.

Barack Obama’s own campaign web site admitted that
1) he was born a British subject because his father was a British subject, and
2) he “became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment”.

Barack Obama’s own campaign web site admitted that he needed the 14th Amendment to be considered a citizen at birth. (Note: “citizen at birth”, not “natural born citizen”.)

There are many born citizens. Some of them are natural born citizens (born in the country, to parents who are its citizens, and whom the Supreme Court said in Minor vs. Happersett DO NOT DEPEND UPON the 17th Amendment) and others are born citizens by statute (needing the 17th Amendment or other statute law to deem them citizens at birth).

Again, the U.S. Supreme Court stated that natural born citizens don’t need the 14th amendment. The contrapositive is that someone who needs the 14th amendment, is NOT a natural born citizen!

For nearly seven years, we have allowed Barack Obama to violate Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution, by usurping the powers of the Presidency when he is not a natural born citizen.

ITguy on January 7, 2016 at 8:26 AM

Note that my comment above has NOTHING to do with the purported “Birth Certificate” posted on the White House web site. But, if one insists on talking only about that, it should be noted that an official law enforcement investigation found that PDF is “UNDOUBTEDLY A FRAUD”.

ITguy on January 7, 2016 at 8:27 AM

The United States Supreme Court, in the case of Minor v Happersett concluded that natural born citizens do not need the 14th amendment.

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.

The fourteenth amendment did not affect the citizenship of women any more than it did of men. In this particular, therefore, the rights of Mrs. Minor do not depend upon the amendment. She has always been a citizen from her birth, and entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizenship. The amendment prohibited the State, of which she is a citizen, from abridging any of her privileges and immunities as a citizen of the United States; but it did not confer citizenship on her. That she had before its adoption.

Again, the United States Supreme Court concluded that natural born citizens do not need the 14th amendment.

The contrapositive is that those who need the 14th amendment are not natural born citizens.

Barack Obama’s own campaign web site made the admission against interest that “Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment”.

That is a completely separate issue from the document forgeries which were purported to be Obama’s Certification of Live Birth, Selective Service registration, and Certificate of Live Birth.

ITguy on January 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM

Ed completely overlooks/ignores Obama’s admission against interest re: the 14th Amendment.

CORRECTION:
Allahpundit completely overlooks/ignores Obama’s admission against interest re: the 14th Amendment.

ITguy on January 7, 2016 at 8:42 AM

Hey, JoshE
When did Obama rescind HIS British citizenship?

gonnjos on January 7, 2016 at 9:03 AM

gonnjos on January 7, 2016 at 9:03 AM

From Barack Obama’s campaign web site:

FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

ITguy on January 7, 2016 at 9:08 AM

Go ahead, Obama White House… go ahead and push for more discussion and clarification of the definition of natural born citizen.

Keep in mind, again, that the US Supreme Court said that natural born citizens don’t need the 14th amendment, (the contrapositive being that those who need the 14th amendment aren’t natural born citizens), and Obama’s own campaign web site said that “Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment”. That’s an admission against interest. I’d love to see that discussed in the media.

ITguy on January 7, 2016 at 9:20 AM

FACT:
If Trump became a naturalized citizen of any of the many places he visits he would have had to have renounced his citizenship, then he is no longer eligible to be President.

Constitutionalist on January 6, 2016 at 8:26 PM

You are such a hack. Getting citizenship conferred on you is not the same as actively seeking it while living and working in a foreign country and renouncing all fealty and committments to any other country in the process.

NWConservative on January 7, 2016 at 9:27 AM

Has Obama ever renounced his Indonesian citizenship?

ConstantineXI on January 6, 2016 at 6:48 PM

Thread winner.

GWB on January 7, 2016 at 10:46 AM