Trump: Let’s face it, Ted Cruz is copying me on building a border wall in order to step up his “weak” immigration game

posted at 3:21 pm on January 4, 2016 by Allahpundit

Skip to 4:55 of the clip below for the key bit from yesterday’s “Face the Nation” interview. Pop quiz: Who said the following, and when did he say it — and to whom?

We have a crisis on illegal immigration. Neither party is serious about stopping it. I strongly oppose illegal immigration. I categorically oppose amnesty. I support legal immigrants who come here supporting the American Dream.

I come from the perspective of someone who spent much of my adult life in law enforcement. In a post-9/11 world, it is absolutely unacceptable that we don’t know who comes over our borders. We need to do everything humanly possible to secure the borders. Electronic surveillance, a wall, helicopters and, most importantly, boots on the ground. If elected, the first thing I will do is triple the U.S. Border Patrol.

That’s Senate candidate Ted Cruz, speaking to Dustin Siggins in May 2012 in an interview for … HotAir.com. Three years before the GOP presidential primary got going, he was calling for a border wall in the border state of Texas. And not just parts of Texas, either. As Cruz made clear in a Senate primary debate that year, he wanted the entire Texas border walled off — even if it meant invoking one of Trump’s favorite federal powers, eminent domain, to do it.

Cruz also distinguished himself from Dewhurst with his full-throated support for a border wall estimated by the Department of Homeland Security to cost $7.3 billion, or $6.5 million per mile.

Cruz defended the border wall proposal even if it meant expropriating private property—a position that the debate’s moderators, WFAA reporter Brad Watson and Gromer Jeffers of the Dallas Morning News, said contrasted with Cruz’s message of fiscal conservatism.

“One of the specific powers and responsibilities of the federal government is to secure the borders,” Cruz said. “Property can be taken with due process of law and just compensation.”

That was July 2012. One of the evergreen questions with Trump is whether he’s merely misinformed or whether he knows the truth and is twisting it to suit his own ends. Which do you suppose it is for the “Cruz wouldn’t have supported a border wall without me going first” claim? How about the additional claim he makes that immigration wouldn’t have come up in the primaries if not for Trump forcing the issue? You think Ted Cruz, running to Marco Rubio’s and Jeb Bush’s right, would have given them a pass on their past support for amnesty, do you?

As always with Trump, there’s a kernel of truth beneath the lies and blather. There’s no denying, I think, that Cruz has been pushed further right than he would have gone if Trump had passed on the race. The most glaring example is his position on legal immigration. Until recently, Cruz always hedged his condemnations of amnesty with professions that there was no greater champion of legal immigration than him. In the immigration plan he released in November, though, he reserved the right as president to limit legal immigration depending upon the state of unemployment in the United States. That was his counter, I think, to Trump’s mass deportation plan: If Cruz couldn’t go along with “deport ’em all” sentiment for fear of how it might hurt him in the general election, he’d at least throw border hawks a bone by sounding a bit more like Jeff Sessions. His recent categorical refusal to legalize illegals as president was also driven mainly by fear of Trump, I suspect. Granted, it was Rubio who drew that out of him by publicizing his 2013 amendment to the Gang of Eight bill that proposed more work permits for illegals, but Cruz probably could have stood firm on that position if Trump wasn’t in the race. He wouldn’t have needed to move further right in a one-on-one battle with Rubio; even if you take a dim view of Cruz’s amendment, his immigration credentials are still unquestionably better than Rubio’s. With Trump running to Cruz’s right, however, the calculus changes. If Cruz were to signal support for legalization in any way, Trump would destroy him over it and that would ruin Cruz’s long romance with Trump’s voters. Result: Cruz now vows he’ll oppose legalization “today, tomorrow, forever.” It’s not the border wall that left Cruz exposed on immigration, it was everything else.

That’s what Trump should have said here, but maybe he’s just warming up. Note what he says at 6:04 about how Rubio and Cruz were both weak on immigration in the past. That’s an early hint, I think, that he’s prepared to come after Cruz hard on amnesty if Iowa remains close over the last few weeks. If he does, the outcome on caucus night will give us a solid verdict on whether Trumpmania and the primaries writ large are really “about” immigration or whether there’s more to the vote this year than that. If Trump wins the state by taking Cruz down over his 2013 amendment, that’ll tell us a lot. If he fails, that’ll tell us a lot too.


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Pay attention Cruz supporters…this is what your candidate will be saying next week

Garyinaz66 on January 4, 2016 at 6:24 PM

Lol!

NWConservative on January 4, 2016 at 6:34 PM

and btw Joseph K, you’re Times piece did quote Cruz correctly, along with the reporter stating three times that Cruz wouldn’t rule out legalizing illegals. The reporter said it. Not Cruz.

But maybe that’s the point. You can’t get the truth from Time, unless you know how to read what they write. You don’t.

RainMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:26 PM

“At that point, once we’ve demonstrated that we can solve the problem, then we can have a conversation about what to do about whatever people remain illegally,” Cruz added. When asked if that conversation included the potential for a pathway to legal status, he repeated, “We can have that conversation with the American people once we secure the border.

I’m sorry. I see now that what Cruz meant is that, once the border is secure, he will rule out legalizing illegals.

Of course, now he’s jumped the gun and ruled it out on Greta’s show, so this is moot.

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 6:35 PM

“Forget the current polling numbers. In Iowa, they don’t count nearly as much as people’s willingness to show up and advocate for their candidate. It seems the state GOP machine in Iowa doesn’t think Trump supporters are going to bother. They might show up to a rally to see Trump in person, but apparently Iowa Republican leaders don’t think those supporters will actually show up to caucus on Election Day because that process doesn’t have the bling of a Trump campaign event. They are getting more and more vocal in their belief that Trump’s support is actually very soft. Their plan is to have Cruz take first and Rubio to “surprise” everyone with a strong second. They are hoping to push Trump down into a third place finish in Iowa which they think will humiliate him and cause much of his support in New Hampshire to then disintegrate.”

This is why it is important for Trump to win Iowa.

And, even if people like Cruz, they should acknowledge that the GOPe fears Cruz very little, they think that he will be easy for them to beat in the blue states with a lot of delegates.

Redstone on January 4, 2016 at 6:36 PM

Here is Trump actual position on illegal immigration:

Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says.

“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says.

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 4:38 PM

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 6:36 PM

I used to have respect for the commentary coming from the bloggers at hotair, but the emergence of Trump has proved you’re all a bunch of hacks. (Yes, even the sainted Allahpundit!)

You start by making the absurd claim that immigration would have been a big issue, even sans Trump, and in the very next breath admit that he’s correct that this issue has taken on new importance in light of his presence. Haters gonna hate.

Sarah-Cuda on January 4, 2016 at 6:36 PM

If Trump Cruz supporters just came out and said “I agree with Trump Cruz, we should be able to take whatever property we deem valuable at some point, why shouldn’t we?” that would be accurate and consistent. Instead they berate Cruz Trump for his “impossible” refusal to deliver a succinct policy to enforce immigration laws that have been ignored by both parties for the last 30 years.
plan to “deport them all”.

RainMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:00 PM

Cruz defended the border wall proposal even if it meant expropriating private property—a position that the debate’s moderators, WFAA reporter Brad Watson and Gromer Jeffers of the Dallas Morning News, said contrasted with Cruz’s message of fiscal conservatism.

“One of the specific powers and responsibilities of the federal government is to secure the borders,” Cruz said. “Property can be taken with due process of law and just compensation.”

“I love eminent domain” – Donald Trump Ted Cruz

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 6:39 PM

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 6:36 PM

Literally several times a day since June we have seen someone post this quote expecting people to go “duh I’ve never seen that before”.

That quote is unfortunate, but as I myself alone have said probably over 100 times that is pretty much his only bad immigration quote, and it happened right after the 2012 election when the entire GOP was all in for amnesty.

Redstone on January 4, 2016 at 6:39 PM

Trump’s opinion of Reagan:

Reagan Was A Con Man Who Couldn’t Deliver The Goods

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 6:41 PM

Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says.

“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says.

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 4:38 PM

Should Reagan have been disqualified for being a Democrat? What about Perry? What is the statute of limitations on a position? That is what Trump said during the Romney campaign, but now he’s saying something different. My views have changed since Romney’s campaign. I wouldn’t vote for him now if hell were to freeze over, but I did then.

DFCtomm on January 4, 2016 at 6:42 PM

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 6:41 PM

An extremy timely and current quote from 1987.

Redstone on January 4, 2016 at 6:43 PM

Absolutely true. I said this two months ago when Cruz released his “Me Too” policy on the border. Cruz was never one to talk about building a wall — he was too busy handing out teddy bears and soccer balls to those who illegally crossed — until TRUMP started winning on the issue. Cruz is a copycat. But he lacks so many of Trump’s positives (i.e. self-funding, charisma) that it doesn’t matter.

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2016 at 6:45 PM

Should Reagan have been disqualified for being a Democrat? What about Perry? What is the statute of limitations on a position? That is what Trump said during the Romney campaign, but now he’s saying something different. My views have changed since Romney’s campaign. I wouldn’t vote for him now if hell were to freeze over, but I did then.

DFCtomm on January 4, 2016 at 6:42 PM

That quote was right after the election when Hannity and everyone came out for amnesty. Pretty much everyone has quotes as bad or worse, and most of Trump’s statements on the issue before and after that one are very good.

Redstone on January 4, 2016 at 6:46 PM

Should Reagan have been disqualified for being a Democrat? What about Perry? What is the statute of limitations on a position? That is what Trump said during the Romney campaign, but now he’s saying something different. My views have changed since Romney’s campaign. I wouldn’t vote for him now if hell were to freeze over, but I did then.

DFCtomm on January 4, 2016 at 6:42 PM

Reagan and Perry spent many years as governors and gave many speeches about their transformation to the GOP and how the Democrat Party left them. Trump on the other hand has done none of that and has completely ignored his recent past. Never an in-depth explanation of what his thoughts were when he bashed Romney’s immigration position.

Tater Salad on January 4, 2016 at 6:47 PM

Cruz 2016…..

Sorry Trump supporters don’t trust Trump to have the temperament to deal fairly with people or respect the Constitution. While we have a choice…..I’m standing with Cruz.

TED
TED
TED
TED
TED
TED
TED
TED

PappyD61 on January 4, 2016 at 6:47 PM

Trump supported Carter against Reagan.

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 6:48 PM

That quote was right after the election when Hannity and everyone came out for amnesty. Pretty much everyone has quotes as bad or worse, and most of Trump’s statements on the issue before and after that one are very good.

Redstone on January 4, 2016 at 6:46 PM

I remember that universal shudder of fear that rippled through the establishment, hehe. The polls were wrong, so wrong.

DFCtomm on January 4, 2016 at 6:50 PM

Trump has pretty much plagiarized Cruz’s stated plan. Enforce current laws, build the fence that was already authorized and never funded, enforce interior enforcement of e-verify and visa over stays and begin deportations per the law. No other action needs to happen until the effects of these actions have taken hold.

One thing that Trump has done that is no doubt caused by his (and Cruz’s) rhetoric on immigration is force the Obama administration to act they are paying attention to the mood of the public. That they announced for two weeks they will begin deportation ‘raids’ is solely because Trump has them on the run. We should all be grateful he is keeping the major issue that drives him so high in the polls alive.

DanMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:50 PM

Sarah-Cuda on January 4, 2016 at 6:36 PM

The two thoughts are not mutually exclusive. It is probable that immigration would have been a big issue while at the same time Trump made it a major issue.
Trump gets credit for moving the Overton Window. It is a pretty big credit in my eyes.

Constitutionalist on January 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM

Trump supported Carter against Reagan.

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 6:48 PM

So did Michele Bachmann and look at her today. She actually WORKED for the Carter campaign as a volunteer. Try again.

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2016 at 6:51 PM

An extremy timely and current quote from 1987.

Redstone on January 4, 2016 at 6:43 PM

The first three sites listed at that link are Think Progress, Democratic Underground, and Free Republic. But just up thread, jaine’s fellow Cruz-Cultist, Rainman, was claiming that an accurate Cruz quotation from Time magazine was something from a “hit piece”, and could safely be ignored.

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 6:53 PM

“One of the specific powers and responsibilities of the federal government is to secure the borders,” Cruz said. “Property can be taken with due process of law and just compensation.”

so you don’t agree with border enforcement Joseph K?

DanMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:56 PM

Trump has pretty much plagiarized Cruz’s stated plan.

RainMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:50 PM

Troll gonna troll.

Of course, a couple of days ago I posted a long set of comments showing how Cruz lifted his immigration plan almost wholly from Trump, with links and accurate quotations, but he missed it.

Smarts!

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 6:56 PM

so you don’t agree with border enforcement Joseph K?

DanMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:56 PM

Sure. I also support Kelo and eminent domain, like Trump, Cruz, and evidently you.

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 6:57 PM

‘yo Special K, I didn’t miss it if I didn’t see it. jes sayin’ lightweight

DanMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:57 PM

so you don’t agree with border enforcement Joseph K?

RainMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:56 PM

Sure I do. I also support Kelo and eminent domain, like Trump, Cruz, and evidently you.

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 6:57 PM

PappyD61 on January 4, 2016 at 6:47 PM

There are a lot of things that I like about Cruz.

However, the GOPe clearly wants him to win Iowa so that can hurt Trump, they fear Trump more than Cruz since a) when it comes down to it they think that they can get Cruz to play ball with them and b) they don’t fear him winning.

They could be wrong, of course, but I don’t see Cruz beating the GOPe.

Redstone on January 4, 2016 at 6:58 PM

I don’t support Kelo Special K. Why did you make such an unfortunate leap? I do like Trump. Now what are you gonna do?

DanMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:59 PM

‘yo Special K, I didn’t miss it if I didn’t see it. jes sayin’ lightweight

RainMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:57 PM

Why don’t you start by reading both plans before you post your claptrap?

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 6:59 PM

I don’t support Kelo Special K. Why did you make such an unfortunate leap? I do like Trump. Now what are you gonna do?

RainMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:59 PM

I didn’t make that “unfortunate leap”; your candidate did:

Cruz defended the border wall proposal even if it meant expropriating private property—a position that the debate’s moderators, WFAA reporter Brad Watson and Gromer Jeffers of the Dallas Morning News, said contrasted with Cruz’s message of fiscal conservatism.

“One of the specific powers and responsibilities of the federal government is to secure the borders,” Cruz said. “Property can be taken with due process of law and just compensation.”

Time for you to drop Cruz and join TDSchemer on the Rand Paul train.

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 7:01 PM

I don’t support Kelo Special K. Why did you make such an unfortunate leap? I do like Trump. Now what are you gonna do?

DanMan on January 4, 2016 at 6:59 PM

I’ve said from the beginning that this race is going to come down to one issue and one issue alone: Kelo.

It is by far the most important issue right now, I know people say “eminent domain is in the constitution, we need it to lay piping and electrical wires etc.” but that is just talk.

Redstone on January 4, 2016 at 7:01 PM

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 6:56 PM

Could you post a link? I’d love to read it. Cruz completely stole Trump’s ideas.

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2016 at 7:15 PM

Trump copies Cruz’s immigration plan from 2011, except Trump wants to bring the “good ones” back right away.

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 7:30 PM

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 6:56 PM

Could you post a link? I’d love to read it. Cruz completely stole Trump’s ideas.

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2016 at 7:15 PM

Trump copies Cruz’s immigration plan from 2011, except Trump wants to bring the “good ones” back right away.

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 7:30 PM

This is the kind of argument I want to see, but we wouldn’t be having it without Trump.

DFCtomm on January 4, 2016 at 7:33 PM

Ted Cruz is a fraud

Brock Robamney on January 4, 2016 at 7:44 PM

Trump copies Cruz’s immigration plan from 2011, except Trump wants to bring the “good ones” back right away.

jaime on January 4, 2016 at 7:30 PM

Hmmmm.. Yet Ted Cruz flip flopped and supported Rubio’s gang of 8 bill. But nice try though

Brock Robamney on January 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM

Redstone on January 4, 2016 at 3:32 PM

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snerk!

meerbock on January 4, 2016 at 7:56 PM

Hmmmm.. Yet Ted Cruz flip flopped and supported Rubio’s gang of 8 bill. But nice try though

Brock Robamney on January 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM

stop your day job, you are going to make a killing in comedy.

Constitutionalist on January 4, 2016 at 7:58 PM

At this point(still very early) in the primary, Iowa and N.H. are very different from most of the states. Both states put a point on direct voter contact, so over the air ads have minimal effect. Trump strength is in mass media, so these two, play directly into Trumps weakness. Allah’s point in this post is dead on. Outside of that, we are really in uncharted territory.(On a side note. Many in Iowa have noticed the mainstream media, especially the big ones like Fox, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, providing cover for Trump, what effect that will have is unknown. But some blow back in the form of the Cruz and Rubio support among Iowa GOP caucus might be occurring. Frankly, we won’t know until after the caucuses.)

flackcatcher on January 4, 2016 at 7:59 PM

Wall, small. Wall, my ass.

LashRambo on January 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM

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Let us consider your points from an engineer’s point of view; say the wall is 20 feet high. Let us also say that Mexican entrepreneurs start building 22 foot ladders, two to a set. Let us further assume we have included guntowers on the outside of our second fence and the no man’s land in between, with the guns physically and solidly locked so that their muzzles cannot depress lower than 20 feet in their assigned arc of fire. Further, let us assume that we install ordinary, off the shelf video software to aim and fire those weapons.
What then?
Absolutely no danger unless you happen to find yourself 20 feet plus a few millimeters higher than the wall. Current camera technology, again off the shelf, would allow the weapon tower to arm and load if anyone approached the wall. Pattern and facial recognition would place the gun tower in readiness.
Don’t climb the wall, you will be in no danger. Anyone see an objection? BP, ICE and local LEOs can watch from their Blazers or CCTV to see how long it takes for someone to try. Oh! and firing on a guard tower WILL precipitate return fire. Sadly, that would also apply to Mexican Army and Air Force incursions in support of the coyotes. I’d guess, just bein’ a dumb old country girl, that there just might be a lot of unemployment among the coyote class.

Just sayin’.

meerbock on January 4, 2016 at 8:22 PM

stop your day job, you are going to make a killing in comedy.

Constitutionalist on January 4, 2016 at 7:58 PM

Comedy huh? Like Cruz being a conservative?

Brock Robamney on January 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM

Me: Let’s face it, Ted Cruz is copying a lot of people on far more (Rand Paul, for example), but at least he’s not pioneering a new path into fascism like Trump is.

TBSchemer on January 4, 2016 at 9:08 PM

The irony of the Trumpsters is that they decry all politicians as lying sacks of garbage but then dance and chant around politician Trump’s bonfire not even bothering to notice Trump’s recent evolution on everything and anything all because he dared to say nasty things about immigrants. How many Trumpsters actually believe that Trump is serious about immigration?

I hope you Trumpsters realize that you’re being played by a master violinist. Trump is a marketing phenom who makes bank off of selling his “brand” and real estate. He knows what makes you tick and he’s selling you the “goods.”

Maybe Cruz isn’t perfect but he’s the most consistent politician I’ve encountered. Moreover, he actually has a political record you can use to judge him. What sort of record does Trump have? No record at all. Yet somehow you’ve all come to the conclusion that somehow, in some universe, Trump is actually going to do what he says despite the fact that his public pronouncements on policy matters are all over the place, he doesn’t support conservative causes (banning immigrants has never been a “conservative” cause), and he has no actual record for you to point to and say, “See, he tried to pass legislation/litigated a case/governed a state/supported a cause that proves his bona fides.” Caveat emptor.

Speakeasy on January 4, 2016 at 9:22 PM

Oh, I forgot one thing…

FLAME AWAY

Speakeasy on January 4, 2016 at 9:22 PM

Speakeasy on January 4, 2016 at 9:22 PM

What a pity… You Jebinistas actually think you have any credibility left…

Brock Robamney on January 4, 2016 at 9:46 PM

One thing that this thread brings out is that Trump supporters and Cruz supporters can support either one.

Trump said and did some very un-conservative things but they are all rationalized by Trump supporters. Cruz has made statements that aren’t exactly reassuring to Cruz supporters but they are easily explained away.

I am a Cruz supporter but I’ll support Trump if Cruz fades.

Vince on January 4, 2016 at 10:00 PM

NWConservative on January 4, 2016 at 6:33 PM

Except that Cruz has been saying build the wall since 2012. Where was Trump?

SDN on January 4, 2016 at 10:07 PM

Hmmmm.. Yet Ted Cruz flip flopped and supported Rubio’s gang of 8 bill. But nice try though

Brock Robamney on January 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM

You’re a liar, and that well known open borders advocate Jeff Sessions says so.

SDN on January 4, 2016 at 10:09 PM

Except that Cruz has been saying build the wall since 2012. Where was Trump?

SDN on January 4, 2016 at 10:07 PM

Saying we need to build the wall since 2011. Why don’t you read the comments before you post?

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 10:11 PM

You’re a liar, and that well known open borders advocate Jeff Sessions says so.

SDN on January 4, 2016 at 10:09 PM

Who is this dim bulb who drops into the thread late and starts insulting people?

Joseph K on January 4, 2016 at 10:12 PM

Anyone else hear the recording from 2008 of Trump ripping George Bush as a “liar” who “got us into a war with a lie, where thousands of Americans died” and also that Republicans were attacking Bill Clinton “over such a little thing”?

That’ll be really painful to hear on TV as part of a Hillary! ad…

Jaibones on January 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM

You’re a liar, and that well known open borders advocate Jeff Sessions says so.

SDN on January 4, 2016 at 10:09 PM

Hmm… Facts don’t lie. Cruz’s amendment is public record. Read it before you comment as your ignorance is evident

Brock Robamney on January 4, 2016 at 10:37 PM

Anyone else hear the recording from 2008 of Trump ripping George Bush as a “liar” who “got us into a war with a lie, where thousands of Americans died” and also that Republicans were attacking Bill Clinton “over such a little thing”?

That’ll be really painful to hear on TV as part of a Hillary! ad…

Jaibones on January 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM

Not really, considering that Hillary supported the war, and Trump was smart to be against it. I wish people had listened to Trump at that time.

cimbri on January 4, 2016 at 10:47 PM

Not really…

cimbri on January 4, 2016 at 10:47 PM

I’m no expert at political calculus, but what percentage of Republican and/or conservative voters will vote for the person who made that liberal-Democrat (lie) talking point and diminished Bill Clinton’s various rape/sexual assault/perjury/etc crimes?

I’m thinking the audio I heard will cost him a lot of his support.

Jaibones on January 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM

I’m thinking the audio I heard will cost him a lot of his support.

Jaibones on January 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM

He’s bashing the Clintons pretty hard. If those old quotes were going to hurt him in the Republican race, it would have already.

Regarding the general election, the conservative voters already know that Bush sold us a pig in a poke on Iraq. We need to clearly turn the page on that policy, which has ended in Iran with maximum influence over Iraq, just as many of us predicted.

cimbri on January 4, 2016 at 11:18 PM

“That was July 2012. One of the evergreen questions with Trump is whether he’s merely misinformed or whether he knows the truth and is twisting it to suit his own ends.”

One of the evergreen questions with the false-conservative media is whether they are somehow misinformed or whether they know the truth and are twisting it to their own ends.

On the mass immigration debate, Trump has the credentials. If not for him, there would be no debate.

David Blue on January 5, 2016 at 12:18 AM

When Jeff Sessions says that Donald Trump’s policy is no good, I will believe that Trump is not doing anything good on this issue.

David Blue on January 5, 2016 at 12:20 AM

On the mass immigration debate, Trump has the credentials. If not for him, there would be no debate.

David Blue on January 5, 2016 at 12:18 AM

That’s like saying David Duke has the credentials on race, because if not for him, there would be no debate.

Trump hasn’t done anything special, except by being so extremely wrong, in the most prejudicial ways, over and over again. The only thing Trump has done for “the debate” is to give a face to the side that is utterly and completely wrong in it.

TBSchemer on January 5, 2016 at 12:48 AM

So what was Cruz doing at the Southern border with Glenn Beck handing out Teddy Bears and Soccer Balls to the young illegals flooding across the border. Gimme a break.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/07/18/mike-lee-sends-regrets-ted-cruz-signs-up-for-glenn-beck-soccer-balls-teddy-bears/

PatJDooley on January 5, 2016 at 1:37 AM

SDN on January 4, 2016 at 10:07 PM

NWConservative, like most vocal Trump supporters here, is somewhat illiterate – at least when it comes to reading and processing the content about which they are supposedly COMMENTING here on this site.

CanofSand on January 5, 2016 at 5:25 AM

PatJDooley on January 5, 2016 at 1:37 AM

Why don’t you stop with the games and just claim Glenn Beck is pro-amnesty? Or is that too stupid a claim even for you? So yes, it’s stupid. Now connect the dots and see how your games, trying to attack Cruz for being associated with that charitable, utterly-non-pro-amnesty event, are just as stupid.

CanofSand on January 5, 2016 at 5:27 AM

So what was Cruz doing at the Southern border with Glenn Beck handing out Teddy Bears and Soccer Balls to the young illegals flooding across the border. Gimme a break.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/07/18/mike-lee-sends-regrets-ted-cruz-signs-up-for-glenn-beck-soccer-balls-teddy-bears/

PatJDooley on January 5, 2016 at 1:37 AM

The GOPe is so clueless, they are sounding more and more like liberals everyday. Cruz, Rubio, are two peas in a pod. Operation Chaos is a rounding success

Brock Robamney on January 5, 2016 at 6:08 AM

As a Cruz supporter I have to say one of the very few things I disagree with him about was getting involved with that Teddy Bears on the border thingy.

What was the full backstory on that?

That being said…..I agree with about 95% of what Cruz has said and stood for….he speaks for me on almost every subject.

CRUZ 2016!

PappyD61 on January 5, 2016 at 7:54 AM

I agree with 95% of what Cruz stands for.

And I could vote for Trump only because he appears to be OUR BULLY…..

And after 8 years of having that thug in the White House apologizing for America I am ready for some NATIONALISM!!!!!

Unless it’s Trump……I’m voting and donating to Ted!!!!

Though his wife does look like she came from the republican Wives School (graduating Elizabeth Dole, Bushes, Eisenhower, Betty Ford, all prim and proper and plastic looking).

:-)

PappyD61 on January 5, 2016 at 7:59 AM

I love seeing Trump this election, but only because he’s serving a great purpose; breaking down the co-ruling power brokers in Washington. I can’t say that I trust him not to do more of the same with a different label. Cruz I’d vote for, Trump lacks the character needed in any man who is given power over us.

Don L on January 5, 2016 at 9:11 AM

Trump hasn’t done anything special, except by being so extremely wrong, in the most prejudicial ways, over and over again. The only thing Trump has done for “the debate” is to give a face to the side that is utterly and completely wrong in it.

TBSchemer on January 5, 2016 at 12:48 AM

I smell cat piss.

Younggod on January 5, 2016 at 9:42 AM

Look, I love Ted Cruz but I am nervous about his position on immigration. I don’t know how much I can trust his views on amnesty and his views on increasing legal immigration (which is far too high already) are troubling.

I know I know, Trump has changed positions a lot over his lifetime. But I give the man a lot of credit for not only shining a very bright light on immigration this election but also sticking with it despite all the heat, from both sides of the aisle, he’s taken. Immigration would be a non-issue or forced leftward if it weren’t for him.

Ukiah on January 5, 2016 at 10:47 AM

When Jeff Sessions says that Donald Trump’s policy is no good, I will believe that Trump is not doing anything good on this issue.

David Blue on January 5, 2016 at 12:20 AM

When did he say that? Doing a search on Jeff Sessions and Trump all I see are articles with him praising the man and his plan on immigration.

Ukiah on January 5, 2016 at 10:51 AM

When Jeff Sessions says that Donald Trump’s policy is no good, I will believe that Trump is not doing anything good on this issue.

David Blue on January 5, 2016 at 12:20 AM

When did he say that? Doing a search on Jeff Sessions and Trump all I see are articles with him praising the man and his plan on immigration.

Ukiah on January 5, 2016 at 10:51 AM

Ignore my previous response, guess I’m still not fully awake… dang these late nights at work ^.^;;;

Ukiah on January 5, 2016 at 10:52 AM

Except that Cruz has been saying build the wall since 2012. Where was Trump?

SDN on January 4, 2016 at 10:07 PM

2011. As Joseph K said, it’s helpful to know your facts before you comment.

NWConservative, like most vocal Trump supporters here, is somewhat illiterate – at least when it comes to reading and processing the content about which they are supposedly COMMENTING here on this site.

CanofSand on January 5, 2016 at 5:25 AM

Oh my dear Rosie O’Donnell supporter, please. As I said to the other poster, that was an ignorant position, that you agreed with because you’re an idiot.

NWConservative on January 5, 2016 at 11:01 AM

So what was Cruz doing at the Southern border with Glenn Beck handing out Teddy Bears and Soccer Balls to the young illegals flooding across the border. Gimme a break.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/07/18/mike-lee-sends-regrets-ted-cruz-signs-up-for-glenn-beck-soccer-balls-teddy-bears/

PatJDooley on January 5, 2016 at 1:37 AM

Something disturbing about two grown men handing out teddy bears to little boys. They call that pedophiles where I am from. But i definitely would call Ben Wreck and the Schmooze brothers and Ted Cruz amnesty advocates

Brock Robamney on January 5, 2016 at 6:30 PM

Pay attention Cruz supporters…this is what your candidate will be saying next week

Garyinaz66 on January 4, 2016 at 6:24 PM

What if someone leaks the speech?

Brock Robamney on January 5, 2016 at 8:37 PM

I don’t trust Ted Cruz on illegal immigration after this stunt.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/07/18/mike-lee-sends-regrets-ted-cruz-signs-up-for-glenn-beck-soccer-balls-teddy-bears/

PatJDooley on January 6, 2016 at 12:05 AM