Rubio: ISIS would have lobbied for the new surveillance law supported by Ted Cruz … and my friends Mike Lee and Trey Gowdy

posted at 9:21 pm on January 4, 2016 by Allahpundit

Confession: Not until this very moment did I think of Rubio as a desperate candidate. Sure, he’s been treading water in the polls and yeah, he’s taken heat from the media for not campaigning more aggressively in Iowa and New Hampshire, but the guy knows what he’s doing. He’s the only game in town if you’re a center-righty. The endorsements will roll in, then the money will roll in, then the votes will roll in, then the delegates will roll in. He’s been playing the long game for 2016 ever since he joined the Gang of Eight three years ago. If the media can’t see that, it’s just because they’re not as good as that game as he is.

Then I read this. Now I think he’s nervous.

“If ISIS had lobbyists in Washington, they would have spent millions to support the anti-Intelligence law that was just passed with the help of some Republicans now running for president.”

During Monday’s speech, Rubio said he would bring back the old Patriot Act program, which featured the bulk collection of telephone metadata by the National Security Agency.

“I will not only restore the intelligence programs Obama and Congress have destroyed, I will strengthen them. Because ISIS does not use carrier pigeons to communicate. They use sophisticated encryption and carefully secured networks,” Rubio said in Hooksett, N.H. “It was already difficult to infiltrate them, now it is even harder.”…

In an apparent jab at Senate rivals known for their extended orations on the floor of the chamber, Rubio said that the security threats emanating from the Middle East that, “words and political stunts cannot ensure our security. ISIS cannot be filibustered.”

“ISIS cannot be filibustered.” This guy is supposed to be the Republican Pericles?

Who’s the main target for this speech? The obvious answer is Ted Cruz, as he and Rubio have been throwing punches for weeks now over the USA Freedom Act, which Cruz supported and which replaced some of the key domestic data-harvesting provisions of the Patriot Act backed by Rubio. I don’t think it’s Cruz who Rubio’s worried about right now, though. Rubio is an also-ran in Iowa, which looks to be a two-man race between Cruz and Trump. He’s competitive in New Hampshire, but Rubio is worried less about finishing behind Cruz there than finishing behind Chris Christie or Jeb Bush, which would slot one of them into the coveted “establishment alternative to Cruz and Trump” role ahead of South Carolina. Increasingly, I think Rubio’s team is prepared to suffer second- or even third-place finishes in the early states so long as they finish ahead of Christie and Bush, knowing that those two guys will then begin to fade and that Rubio will be left to clean up in the delegate-rich winner-take-all blue-state primaries later on the calendar.

Which is to say, I think this “ISIS *hearts* the USA Freedom Act” talking point he’s rolling out is aimed less at Cruz than at Christie and Bush. Rubio wants to make sure he’s seen as being at least as hawkish as the other two moderates so that hawkish center-right voters have no reason to prefer the others to him. The problem for him is that Christie is devoutly hawkish himself and especially relishes laying into critics of the Patriot Act like Rand Paul. If Rubio’s dead set on not being out-hawked by Christie, this nonsense about ISIS lobbying for the bill is the sort of thing he needs to say — no matter how many other political difficulties it creates for him. Really awkward political difficulties, as it turns out:

In fact, 21 of Rubio’s 24 congressional supporters backed the USA Freedom Act—a bill Rubio has said “weaken[s]… U.S. intelligence programs”—this year (a 25th supporter, Rep. Darin LaHood, wasn’t in Congress at the time of the vote). And of these 21 members of Congress, more than a dozen co-sponsored a version of the USA Freedom Act in the previous Congress…

Chief among Rubio’s latest endorsements is Rep. Trey Gowdy, a Republican congressman whose support Rubio touted widely this week in Iowa. But Gowdy was a co-sponsor of the USA Freedom Act. His office did not return a request for comment. Rep. Darrell Issa, another prominent Rubio backer, also co-sponsored this year’s NSA overhaul.

Tim Scott, who looks all set to endorse Rubio sometime this month, also voted for the USA Freedom Act. So did Mike Lee, who’s not only a friend of Rubio’s but who drafted a tax plan with him. In fact, Lee didn’t just vote for the USA Freedom Act, he co-sponsored it. Is Mike Lee some sort of unwitting pawn of ISIS too? It’s fine for Rubio to disagree with allies on an issue, but if voting yes on a particular bill means the terrorists have won, maybe the people who cast those votes shouldn’t be your allies. Let’s leave the demagoguery to Trump, eh?

I wonder why Team Cruz hasn’t been more aggressive in pointing out how many of Rubio’s allies sided against him on the supposedly disqualifying USA Freedom Act vote. Maybe they fear it’ll backfire by showcasing how much support Rubio has. E.g., “Trey Gowdy, a congressman whom you know and like, agrees with Ted Cruz about national surveillance! … although he thinks Marco Rubio would be a better president.” There’s got to be a way to do that ad without it hurting Cruz, though. Why not just list Lee, Gowdy, Scott, and others as having sided with Cruz on the bill without mentioning who they’ve endorsed? Or do it in numbers. “More than 80 percent of the congressmen on Marco Rubio’s own team voted against him on national surveillance. Marco Rubio — too radical, even for his friends.” That sort of thing. Where’s that ad? It’s fine for Cruz to go around insisting he’ll turn ISIS’s territory into glow-in-the-dark glass or whatever but he’s at risk of letting Rubio define him as a dovish deviation from the Republican norm. In reality, the USA Freedom Act passed overwhelmingly in the House with heavy Republican support. Rubio’s the one who’s deviated from the norm. Make him own it.

Then again, who needs ads when you’ve got soundbites like this? Brutal:

“So Rubio’s foreign policy and national security strategy is to invade Middle Eastern countries, create power vacuums for terrorist organizations, allow their people to come to America unvetted, give them legal status and citizenship, then impose a massive surveillance state to monitor the problem,” [Cruz spokesman Alice] Stewart said. “I’m trying to figure out if it is more incoherent than dangerous or vice versa.”

Can that message win a Republican primary? In 2004, nope. In 2008 or 2012? Probably not. In 2016? I wouldn’t bet against it.


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Desperation, thy name is Rubio.

HiJack on January 4, 2016 at 9:23 PM

He’s desperate, and no matter what he does or says he’ll never see a vote from this house. Freaking traitor.

Andy__B on January 4, 2016 at 9:23 PM

Rubio is thirsty…

equanimous on January 4, 2016 at 9:24 PM

Electing Ted Cruz is exactly what ISIS wants us to do!

ShainS on January 4, 2016 at 9:27 PM

Getting bitter, Marco? Maybe Jeb can help you through that.

Limerick on January 4, 2016 at 9:29 PM

sweaty & thirsty… Rubio 2016

equanimous on January 4, 2016 at 9:31 PM

UGH!!!

canopfor on January 4, 2016 at 9:32 PM

Sounds desperate to me. A far cry from the bartender in the back of the room and the son in the front of the room pablum that has been his standard fare.

The establishment may be left with no-one standing.

Revenant on January 4, 2016 at 9:38 PM

No amnesty for you Rude’eo!

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 4, 2016 at 9:39 PM

Rubio.

The LIV may fall for this, but there are some people out here with an IQ above 25. So, you want to allow NSA to collect all that metadata, fine.

And as soon as that metadata leads you to a pattern that says “maybe a terrorist” and you start monitoring a few guys text messages, how you going to break that encryption?

Back to start.

Walter L. Newton on January 4, 2016 at 9:39 PM

Speaking of ISIS/DemoTards/GOP:
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This Badass Escaped an ISIS Prison. And He Has a Message for Obama About His ‘Bullsh**’ Strategy

By Justen Charters (3 hours ago)
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Then, he took a major shot at the Obama administration for the way they’re handling things:

“The airstrikes are not effective and there are really no functional operations. The coalition is bullsh**! They might get a couple good shots here or there, but for the most part it’s not an effective strategy.

In the future, I feel that the Republicans will be more effective to battle ISIS than the Democrats will. Since 1991, the Republicans have been better allies than Democrats. The Democrats have a stupid strategy. I had spent a long time on the battlefield with the Republicans politics and we’ve had way more victories in the fight.

Under the Obama administration, America is not taking this fight seriously.”

Saad, who holds the rank of Master Sergeant in the Iraqi Security Forces, is still out there fighting ISIS on the frontlines. And we wish him the best of luck.
================================================

http://www.ijreview.com/2016/01/500716-this-badass-escaped-an-isis-prison-and-he-has-a-message-for-obama-about-his-bullsh-strategy/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=entry-meta&utm_campaign=Sharing

canopfor on January 4, 2016 at 9:41 PM

You’re witnessing the end of the Reagan revolution.

The conservative democrat/moderate socialist mindset that made up that revolution is coming to an end in the republican party. They’re going to become more and more marginalized from here on out.

It’s about time.

Magicjava on January 4, 2016 at 9:43 PM

“So Rubio’s foreign policy and national security strategy is to invade Middle Eastern countries, create power vacuums for terrorist organizations, allow their people to come to America unvetted, give them legal status and citizenship, then impose a massive surveillance state to monitor the problem.”

Sounds like the Bush/Obama/Clinton recipe for success. Leave the borders wide open and just spy on everybody.

MidAtlantic Moderate on January 4, 2016 at 9:43 PM

“So Rubio’s foreign policy and national security strategy is to invade Middle Eastern countries, create power vacuums for terrorist organizations, allow their people to come to America unvetted, give them legal status and citizenship, then impose a massive surveillance state to monitor the problem,” [Cruz spokesman Alice] Stewart said. “I’m trying to figure out if it is more incoherent than dangerous or vice versa.”

Rubio just got rekt.

thirtyandseven on January 4, 2016 at 9:43 PM

Where’s Marcus and the rest of the Boobio fans with their supportive banter.

RickB on January 4, 2016 at 9:44 PM

“So Rubio’s foreign policy and national security strategy is to invade Middle Eastern countries, create power vacuums for terrorist organizations, allow their people to come to America unvetted, give them legal status and citizenship, then impose a massive surveillance state to monitor the problem,” [Cruz spokesman Alice] Stewart said. “I’m trying to figure out if it is more incoherent than dangerous or vice versa.”

bump

Axe on January 4, 2016 at 9:48 PM

hate the rube

Pragmatic on January 4, 2016 at 9:50 PM

I voted once for Rubio in his senate bid. I will never vote for that lying pro amnesty, neocon, war looney EVER again.

moebius22 on January 4, 2016 at 9:55 PM

In an apparent jab at Senate rivals known for their extended orations on the floor of the chamber, Rubio said that the security threats emanating from the Middle East that, “words and political stunts cannot ensure our security. ISIS cannot be filibustered.”

But they can be carpet bombed into oblivion. Then you send in the Kurds, backed U.S. military power the shoot anyone left alive. Kuridstan can be born…and the rest of the Sunni Arab non-combatants (but passive supporters of ISIS/AQ) left can then be sent to Mecca for the Saudis to feed and give shelter. They will need the bodies to fight the great holy war with the Shia Persians.

“So Rubio’s foreign policy and national security strategy is to invade Middle Eastern countries, create power vacuums for terrorist organizations, allow their people to come to America unvetted, give them legal status and citizenship, then impose a massive surveillance state to monitor the problem,” [Cruz spokesman Alice] Stewart said. “I’m trying to figure out if it is more incoherent than dangerous or vice versa.”

Rubio’s foreign policy in a nutshell.

Confession: Not until this very moment did I think of Rubio as a desperate candidate. Sure, he’s been treading water in the polls and yeah, he’s taken heat from the media for not campaigning more aggressively in Iowa and New Hampshire, but the guy knows what he’s doing. He’s the only game in town if you’re a center-righty masochist. The endorsements will roll in, then the money will roll in, then the votes will roll in, then the delegates will roll in. He’s been playing the long game for 2016 ever since he joined the Gang of Eight three years ago. If the media can’t see that, it’s just because they’re not as good as that game as he is.

This is why I come to Hot Air. It fascinates me, like how WWI generals kept doing the same thing over and over again despite so many past failures.

I will assume AP is being funny here…I hope he is. Yes…hmmm.

William Eaton on January 4, 2016 at 9:55 PM

Increasingly, I think Rubio’s team is prepared to suffer second- or even third-place finishes in the early states

…hahaha…wasn’t that Jeb’s strategy as well…before he got smoked by Trump..??

…how’s that working Rubio..??…you’re not even gonna win FL and the Repubs need that state…

Pelosi Schmelosi on January 4, 2016 at 9:56 PM

lemme guess
ISIS is going to put the Cruzer and Gowdy in a recruiting video

What’s wrong with this guy?
I so hope he leaves government entirely.

james23 on January 4, 2016 at 9:56 PM

The Stasi, Gestapo and the KGB would be with Rubio, that’s for sure. Everyone found guilty until never proven innocent.

VorDaj on January 4, 2016 at 9:58 PM

“So Rubio’s foreign policy and national security strategy is to invade Middle Eastern countries, create power vacuums for terrorist organizations, allow their people to come to America unvetted, give them legal status and citizenship, then impose a massive surveillance state to monitor the problem,” [Cruz spokesman Alice] Stewart said. “I’m trying to figure out if it is more incoherent than dangerous or vice versa.”

She sounds like a winner! Will have to look for more of her statements tomorrow after work I guess.

Constitutionalist on January 4, 2016 at 9:59 PM

Where’s Marcus and the rest of the Boobio fans with their supportive banter.

RickB on January 4, 2016 at 9:44 PM

terryannonline would be here to defend Marco but she’s at her weekly MENSA meeting.

bw222 on January 4, 2016 at 10:00 PM

Rubio is desperate. Pathetic too.

With friends like Rubio, who needs Democrats?

portlandon on January 4, 2016 at 10:04 PM

My Rubio burns when I pee.

wheelgun on January 4, 2016 at 10:10 PM

This Rubio guy is scary.

Aizen on January 4, 2016 at 10:11 PM

If you’re friends with the turncoat Gowdy, you are part of the ongoing problem.

Old eagle on January 4, 2016 at 10:14 PM

Starting to wonder if that’s water he’s drinking…

RSNTR on January 4, 2016 at 10:18 PM

Getting bitter, Marco? Maybe Jeb can help you through that.

Limerick on January 4, 2016 at 9:29 PM

he’s already tasted Schumer and McCain…maybe Graham. Time to do some Bush.

arnold ziffel on January 4, 2016 at 10:23 PM

In the words of Hillary Clinton “what difference does it make?”

When you have a Twitter Troll like Trump who has already put the election into the sewer below the gutter under the swamp, what difference does it make what Rubio says or Cruz or Christie or Carson, etc.

Bill and Hillary have the Republicans believing they can elect Twitter Troll Trump and win.

The irony is rich: Clinton the most establishment of establishment politicians is going to get to the White House because anti-establishment voters thought they could elect a Twitter Troll like Trump and win.

sheryl on January 4, 2016 at 10:59 PM

This is the real Rubio. Amnesty, police state, endless foreighn wars, and bigger government.

He is a liar and I will sit out the election or vote donk.

jukin3 on January 4, 2016 at 11:03 PM

Ruby is an angry little boy.

GaltBlvnAtty on January 4, 2016 at 11:04 PM

The irony is rich: Clinton the most establishment of establishment politicians is going to get to the White House because anti-establishment voters thought they could elect a Twitter Troll like Trump and win.

sheryl on January 4, 2016 at 10:59 PM

Are you actually that obtuse that you cannot process other people’s feelings and why they feel the way they do? You, meredith, and joana, never ever try to justify your bff Mcconnell, Ryan, Boehner, et al.

arnold ziffel on January 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM

Rubio already loses due to amnesty and lies, why add more to the plate? That is the game plan

OregonPolitician on January 4, 2016 at 11:19 PM

Are you actually that obtuse that you cannot process other people’s feelings and why they feel the way they do? You, meredith, and joana, never ever try to justify your bff Mcconnell, Ryan, Boehner, et al.

arnold ziffel on January 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM

Hmmm why don’t you have Trump justify why he doesn’t know about the nuclear triad or the TPP trade deal, or the difference between the Quds & Kurds, etc……

If Trump was in a job interview with himself he wouldn’t hire himself purely on the basis of his lack of knowledge.

None of the information is classified so there is no reason for Trump not to know. I’m thinking he’s lazy and I think he’ll be a terrible president because he is so dumb about foreign policy.

Seriously Trump’s acceptance of Putin’s endorsement sounded like Noam Chompsky & Howard Zinn’s anti-American rhetoric “America kills people too”….it was pathetic. I don’t want that kind of person to lead the already great America.

sheryl on January 4, 2016 at 11:27 PM

Seriously Trump’s acceptance of Putin’s endorsement sounded like Noam Chompsky & Howard Zinn’s anti-American rhetoric “America kills people too”….it was pathetic. I don’t want that kind of person to lead the already great America.

sheryl on January 4, 2016 at 11:27 PM

So you are indeed fine with “your bff Mcconnell, Ryan, Boehner, et al.”
good deal.

arnold ziffel on January 4, 2016 at 11:40 PM

There are only two men left who can win the nomination. And Rubio isn’t one of them.

K. Hobbit on January 4, 2016 at 11:42 PM

Flailing…….

Realdemocrat1 on January 5, 2016 at 12:37 AM

LOL at Rubio!

Confession: Not until this very moment did I think of Rubio as a desperate candidate.
I’ve known all along, since the beginning, that he had no chance. Admittedly, I worried that I might be wrong, but it turned out that I was right again.

FloatingRock on January 5, 2016 at 1:08 AM

The irony

Rubio: “You cannot be lawless.”

Schadenfreude on January 5, 2016 at 1:09 AM

LOL at Rubio!

Confession: Not until this very moment did I think of Rubio as a desperate candidate.

I’ve known all along, since the beginning, that he had no chance. Admittedly, I worried that I might be wrong, but it turned out that I was right again.

FloatingRock on January 5, 2016 at 1:09 AM

Confession: Not until this very moment did I think of Rubio as a desperate candidate.

No kidding! And the bottom line for me is that in less than 48 hours Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina have done really stupid stuff to knock them out of consideration.

UPNorthWolf on January 5, 2016 at 1:11 AM

Tset

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 5, 2016 at 2:23 AM

You, meredith, and joana, never ever try to justify your bff Mcconnell, Ryan, Boehner, et al.

arnold ziffel

It’s a 24/7 bloodletting with those three morons bleeding nonstop out of…wherever.

Hmmm why don’t you have Trump justify why he doesn’t know about the nuclear triad

sheryl

Like you had ever heard the term nuclear triad before, lol. But yeah, I’m sure Trump didn’t know we have nuclear subs, planes, and missile silos. You morons get dumber by the day, and your desperation reveals it for all to see. No wonder you like Rubio. He engages in the same desperate nonsense.

I’d rather have Rubio justify starting nuclear war with Russia over Syria. But hey, at least he knew the Washington speak for our nuclear capabilities, right?

xblade on January 5, 2016 at 2:27 AM

I wonder what ISIS would think about Rubio’s open borders/amnesty for all law?

xblade on January 5, 2016 at 2:29 AM

You, meredith, and joana, [and sheryl] never ever try to justify your bff Mcconnell, Ryan, Boehner, et al.

arnold ziffel on January 4, 2016 at 11:08 PM

That is all they can do is bitch, moan and nag. They are bitter shrews. No man will put up with them so they come here to spread their misery.

Its compulsive.

Reuben Hick on January 5, 2016 at 7:00 AM

“If ISIS had lobbyists in Washington, they would have spent millions to support the [Fourth Amendment]”

Man, that’s a good argument; clearly the 4th Amendment is bad and we should ditch it… right?

Or is this perhaps a weaksauce bit of idiocy that should have been squelched before it got said?

gekkobear on January 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM

Rubio’s biggest problem is that Jeb, Christie and Kasich are John Belushi’s “The Thing That Wouldn’t Leave” from back when SNL was good.

FishingwFredo on January 5, 2016 at 5:46 PM