The Ferguson Effect hits a mall in Kentucky

posted at 3:31 pm on January 3, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

Right after Christmas on the night of Saturday, December 27th, there was a riot at the mall in St. Matthews, Kentucky. Did you hear about it? Odds are that you did not if you were relying on the usual cable news outlets. It’s not the type of story that the mainstream media likes to cover for reasons which should become obvious shortly.

It all began when groups of youths simultaneously began causing disturbances at several stores in the mall. That’s the word the media likes to use… “disturbances.” Of course, what they really mean is looting and vandalism. There were only a limited number of security personnel in the large mall, but they responded quickly. That didn’t help much, though, as NBC news reported.

Chain-reaction brawls involving up to 2,000 people erupted in one of Kentucky’s largest malls Saturday night, forcing the entire mall and businesses in the surrounding area to shut down, police said.

The hours-long chaos at Mall St. Matthews began about 7 p.m. ET when the six St. Matthews police officers assigned to the mall for the holiday season began responding to “disturbances,” said Officer Dennis McDonald, a police spokesman.

“As they were responding to those disturbances, others were breaking out. … Disturbances started to feed on themselves.” McDonald said. “They were just overwhelmed with a number of calls for service and reports of disorder.”

The officers on duty at the mall called for backup, and 50 officers from five different agencies responded, according to police.

Reporters were describing it as “a series of brawls” which involved anywhere from 1,000 to 2,000 “young people” ranging in age from 13 to their early 20s. It soon engulfed the entire mall, shutting down business entirely. Watch the video below and see for yourself the great lengths that both the police and the reporters on the scene to go in order to avoid saying what’s really going on here.

Here’s the next thing to note: despite all of the wreckage and lost property, not a single person was arrested. Not one person. How can we possibly explain this? Were all 2,000 of them modern day Batman style superheros who swung out of the building on steel grapples? Not hardly. And did it seem strange to you that a lot of very specific details about the “youths” were missing from the NBC report? If so, you’re probably on to the underlying story already. But for a better explanation, I’ll turn it over to Mike Mcdaniel at Bearing Arms. (And please do read his entire piece.)

What NBC did not mention is the racial makeup of the thugs. Considering the location, it takes no imagination to realize a significant portion of them were black. It also takes no imagination to understand that no police officer wants to be involved in an altercation with any politically favored minority. That’s a fight they can’t win, and the chances are at least 50/50 that being in the right and scrupulously following the letter of the law wouldn’t be a defense.

Were some of them white? Surely, but that doesn’t matter. People will do things in mobs that they would never do individually. They draw energy–and not positive energy–from the worst intentions and excesses of those surrounding them, and they know that in the crowd, they’ll likely be anonymous.

And so the officers were reduced to running here and there, using their mere presence in a desperate attempt to keep some kind of order. If the crowd wanted to rape, could they easily have drug women into bathrooms, dark hallways and other convenient, out of the way places without the police having the slightest idea what was happening? Of course. Murder would have been as easily accomplished. It’s amazing none of these crimes occurred, or perhaps we just don’t know about them yet.

What Mike is talking about is the Ferguson Effect, which we are continually assured does not exist on cable news. The cops were overwhelmed by a massive group of lawless thugs and didn’t have the resources (or more importantly the respect and support of the community) to get it under control. This isn’t a question of the race of the perpetrators in terms of who is breaking the law. (So have a seat, race baiters, and spare me the usual accusations.) It’s a question of the cops being handcuffed in certain areas by fear of the media and SJW backlash. And as a result they made little progress in stopping the crime and arrested nobody.

To go any further, they would have needed to draw weapons and put some serious fear into the hearts of the criminals. But they did not. Why would they? Odds are that local politicians wouldn’t have backed them up and they would have been made out to be villains. And since this group got away with it, you can rest assured that you’ll see more in the future. The basic fabric of social order is breaking down in too many places.

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dentarthurdent. Sadly, uncivil d!psh!ts ban was only temporary. She will be back to crap in the punchbowl b4 u know it…..

Indiana Jim on January 3, 2016 at 5:26 PM

CD was given another change.

CWforFreedom on January 3, 2016 at 5:24 PM

Sorta like Bruce Jenner and Chaz Bono….

viking01 on January 3, 2016 at 5:27 PM

CD was given another change.

CWforFreedom on January 3, 2016 at 5:24 PM

Change or chance?
Actually I suppose it works either way for CD – another chance means the idiot is still here – another change means the leftard sock gets resurrected again under another new name……

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2016 at 5:28 PM

HumpBot Salvation on January 3, 2016 at 5:20 PM

**Golf clap**

BallisticBob on January 3, 2016 at 5:30 PM

You missed it by a whisker! I’ll give you some Meow Mix anyway…
ExpressoBold on January 3, 2016 at 5:04 PM

Thanks! I’ve spent the entire weekend hammered, hence the slow reflexes…

nonpartisans tabbycat on January 3, 2016 at 5:34 PM

viking. Dont forget chelsea manning. Obamas gynecologist.

Indiana Jim on January 3, 2016 at 5:35 PM

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 4:46 PM

Sadly, you keep giving nonp ammunition with which to shoot off his mouth. *smh*

GWB on January 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM

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I’m right.

How the truth affects a vacant skull, is irrelevant.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 5:42 PM

Here’s the next thing to note: despite all of the wreckage and lost property, not a single person was arrested. Not one person. How can we possibly explain this?

This about says it:

Because of the Ferguson Effect, more and more police officers are flying under the radar. They’re not being proactive. They’re doing the minimum. They’re not stopping people they know are up to no good, particularly if they’re members of politically protected groups. So even if officers can arrive in time when a criminal attack is imminent–and that’s virtually never possible–they can no longer be depended upon. In many places, the crime rate, unsurprisingly, is skyrocketing, and the media is doing its best to avoid admitting what is so obviously happening.

Stoic Patriot on January 3, 2016 at 5:44 PM

Frankly, I stayed out of the militia thread because I don’t really have an opinion yet.

That being said, I don’t think I agree with CivilDiscourse being banned — even temporarily. Actual threats are one thing, but hyperbolic talk about cops shooting people? Eh…

Anyways, not my blog, and I get why Jazz is exercising the ban hammer. People are getting… a little heated… over this issue. And getting very personal. Which is unnecessary.

Timin203 on January 3, 2016 at 5:52 PM

I’m finding the juxtaposition of this article after the OR militia article fascinating.

These two stories alone show how crazy society has gotten and how arbitrary and vindictive the law enforcement and judicial branches in general (not all, enough to be concerning) have gotten.

smokeyblonde on January 3, 2016 at 5:53 PM

“You dont have to be a racist to see the disparity among races”. Civil Discourse on Dec. 28th @ 7:06 pm.

Indiana Jim on January 3, 2016 at 5:54 PM

Frankly, I stayed out of the militia thread because I don’t really have an opinion yet.

Timin203 on January 3, 2016 at 5:52 PM

There were quite a few decent links in that thread – would recommend checking it out just for the various background articles.

smokeyblonde on January 3, 2016 at 5:55 PM

JackM. Just an observation on my part. My sons uncle is police officer here. He repeatedly tells me about african-americans that he confronts at work. Alot of them tell him “you cant do nothing to me because of obama” (paraphrase)

Indiana Jim on January 3, 2016 at 4:58 PM

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He emboldened criminals.

B.O.’s legacy.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 5:55 PM

“flash mob” “young people” “youths” For a second I thought they might have been referring to ‘blacks’. I guess the best way to stop the violence is to disarm all white crackers.

MaiDee on January 3, 2016 at 5:59 PM

The problem this exemplifies is that there is an increasing lack of respect for authority and a breakdown of social order, both of which will lead to anarchy. But, it seems that those in power right now are inclined to live that.

Techster64 on January 3, 2016 at 6:01 PM

oscarwilde on January 3, 2016 at 4:01 PM

7-8 November 1917

hmmmm…

13 May-13 October 1917

“…If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church...”

pannw on January 3, 2016 at 6:04 PM

Consider what Van Jones said several years ago that progressives wanted, bottom up, top down, inside out. Which means chaos in the streets, causing the middle class to call for authorities to bring order, then they do and the middle class are smothered by authorities and regulations, as their freedoms are taken away by the federal government.

Techster64 on January 3, 2016 at 6:07 PM

Ok, rarely post and I haven’t read all comments, but please, please stop saying

melatonin

. It’s melanin. Melatonin makes you sleepy, melanin colors skin.

Researcher...MO on January 3, 2016 at 6:08 PM

Ok, rarely post and I haven’t read all comments, but please, please stop saying
melatonin
. It’s melanin. Melatonin makes you sleepy, melanin colors skin.

Researcher…MO on January 3, 2016 at 6:08 PM

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How about we just say the thugs were black, and have an honest conversation.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 6:11 PM

That’s the word the media likes to use… “disturbances.” Of course, what they really mean is looting and vandalism.

The hours-long chaos at Mall St. Matthews began about 7 p.m. ET when the six St. Matthews police officers assigned to the mall for the holiday season began responding to “disturbances,” said Officer Dennis McDonald, a police spokesman.

I guess that would be the word the idiot cop used, not the media. As for the assumption that virtually all of the looting brawlers were black, every photo I saw was of blacks, and St. Matthews Kentucky is 88% white, 6% black, so this would seem to have been a social media ghetto breakout.

Anyone familiar with John Derbyshire’s observations on Life in America would have understood that when 2,000 black kids get off the buses and trains outside the mall, you leave…quickly.

Jaibones on January 3, 2016 at 6:12 PM

Louisville is a racially-divided city. The ghettos are on the west side of the city and St. Matthews is a suburb on the east side, but there’s plenty of transportation to get to the mall.

There were more than 20 incidents at malls over the holidays, mostly involving “youth.”

bw222 on January 3, 2016 at 6:13 PM

Researcher…MO on January 3, 2016 at 6:08 PM

They know that. They’re making fun of the original poster (a leftist shill who thinks she’s smarter than all the conservative hicks) of the word Melatonin used in place of melanin. Irony…

pannw on January 3, 2016 at 6:14 PM

How about we just say the thugs were black, and have an honest conversation.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 6:11 PM

I couldn’t possibly agree more.

Researcher...MO on January 3, 2016 at 6:20 PM

How about we just say the thugs were black, and have an honest conversation.

There are “progressives” in the room, it is impossible to have an honest conversation.

F X Muldoon on January 3, 2016 at 6:24 PM

posted at 3:31 pm on January 3, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

If I were Jazz, I wouldn’t have been watching the Jets either.

Pain Train on January 3, 2016 at 6:24 PM

They know that. They’re making fun of the original poster (a leftist shill who thinks she’s smarter than all the conservative hicks) of the word Melatonin used in place of melanin. Irony…

pannw on January 3, 2016 at 6:14 PM

Yes, she amuses me as well. I just can’t understand how anyone could be so clueless, and yet liberals almost always are. Until reality mugs them, and even then some never see the light (see the German woman who was raped and didn’t want to report it because she felt sorry for him).

Meanwhile, I am seeing more and more people start to voice their real opinions, at least where I live in lily white rural MO. I moved from the city and will, God willing, never go back.

Researcher...MO on January 3, 2016 at 6:27 PM

My son was working at the Cheesecake Factory in the mall that day. He said most of the stores pulled down their doors and closed up except the Cheesecake Factory didn’t even tell the workers what was going on and they kept working. He described it as a series of brawls and people fighting. I don’t care what color these terrorists are, they are still terrorists. We have become a lawless country, so I don’t care what executive orders Obama puts in place, people need to be able to protect themselves and family from any kind of violence.

lea on January 3, 2016 at 6:28 PM

The result of these kinds of things where the police fear to do their jobs and protect the peace is that we will end up with lawless no go zones. Coming to a neighborhood near you.

paulsur on January 3, 2016 at 6:42 PM

Researcher…MO on January 3, 2016 at 6:08 PM

WTF is wrong with you? Have you not seen Animal House? I bet you’re fun at parties.

fossten on January 3, 2016 at 7:01 PM

fossten. Better put researcher on double-secret probation. :-D

Indiana Jim on January 3, 2016 at 7:13 PM

I’m right.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 5:42 PM

Your original post on which I commented said “this is about race” – and that’s true only in the minds of the racists. It’s about a culture that largely consists of a certain race, but it is NOT confined to that race, nor is it ubiquitous within that race. It is NOT about race, but about culture.

GWB on January 3, 2016 at 7:23 PM

Take a poll of any mall personnel, and they will tell you of their dread of weekend and holiday evenings when clusters of young people congregate with no particular purpose but to roam/intimidate/shoplift, etc. Parents casually dump their young at malls, expecting the place to babysit or police them.

onlineanalyst on January 3, 2016 at 7:27 PM

And no matter where you live, shoplifting (a crime against property) is not justification to shoot someone.

Timin203 on January 3, 2016 at 3:47 PM

Rioting, assault, and grand theft, OTOH….

SDN on January 3, 2016 at 7:29 PM

Turn the primates into inmates.

SpongePuppy on January 3, 2016 at 7:39 PM

oh, you mean the melatonin levels of the youths eh…

sigh

nonpartisan on January 3, 2016 at 3:51 PM

Yo, harvard boy! It is melanin, not melatonin.

katy the mean old lady on January 3, 2016 at 7:40 PM

This has been going on since LONG before Ferguson. This sort of situation is one where the use of the militia would actually be appropriate.

SDN on January 3, 2016 at 7:45 PM

Hands up don’t loot.

SpongePuppy on January 3, 2016 at 7:49 PM

Your original post on which I commented said “this is about race” – and that’s true only in the minds of the racists. It’s about a culture that largely consists of a certain race, but it is NOT confined to that race, nor is it ubiquitous within that race. It is NOT about race, but about culture.

GWB on January 3, 2016 at 7:23 PM

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Because it’s not confined to any race, doesn’t mean it’s not about race.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 7:50 PM

And no matter where you live, shoplifting (a crime against property) is not justification to shoot someone.

Timin203 on January 3, 2016 at 3:47 PM

Rioting, assault, and grand theft, OTOH….

SDN on January 3, 2016 at 7:29 PM

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Looting = Bang Bang

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 7:51 PM

Mass incarceration gets a bad rap.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 7:52 PM

It all began when groups of youths simultaneously began causing disturbances at several stores in the mall. That’s the word the media likes to use… “disturbances.”

The media loves hiding reality.

Disturbances for rioting and vandalism. But that’s only the tip of the iceberg. There was the “kid” who made a clock in Fort Worth- even though the kid and his family are radical Islamic trolls looking for a fight over their faith. There were those all-American “kids” that gunned down a bunch of people in San Bernardino. The Islamic terrorist who killed four military members in Chattanooga was a troubled “teen” with no reference to Islam. Same goes for the Nadal Hassan- just a disgruntled employee. I could go on.

The media does not want to spotlight black thugs or Islamic terrorists. It goes against the narrative that cops are to blame for all of the blacks troubles and that there is no such thing as domestic Islamic terrorism.

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2016 at 7:55 PM

shoot them

chuckh on January 3, 2016 at 7:56 PM

“Where have you gone Ohio National Guard, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you, woo, woo, woo…”

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 8:00 PM

Take a poll of any mall personnel, and they will tell you of their dread of weekend and holiday evenings when clusters of young people congregate with no particular purpose but to roam/intimidate/shoplift, etc.

onlineanalyst on January 3, 2016 at 7:27 PM

Oh! I disagree. The local mall here has more problems when some new sneaker comes out. They literally have to add additional security and put up signs spelling out that individuals cannot line up before 5am. I couldn’t understand this until I was in the mall early one Saturday. The collection of thugs and ghetto dwellers lined up to go in two at a time under the half-closed gate of the Foot Locker showed me exactly why this was more than some sort of snub of blacks (which has long been the accusation about these prohibitions).

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2016 at 8:02 PM

Jazz Shaw on January 3, 2016 at 4:32 PM

Many thanks to Jazz to consider the context of my comments, which were meant to contrast LEO response in Oregon to other recent events. And I poured a 40 on the stoop for the Jets in atonement.

CivilDiscourse on January 3, 2016 at 8:40 PM

The article doesn’t take into account that it was the 4th night of Kwanzaa(CAUSE TURMOIL AND MAYHEM FOR WHITEY)

chuckachucka on January 3, 2016 at 8:42 PM

shoot them
chuckh on January 3, 2016 at 7:56 PM

Uh . . .

CivilDiscourse on January 3, 2016 at 8:43 PM

WTF is wrong with you? Have you not seen Animal House? I bet you’re fun at parties.

fossten on January 3, 2016 at 7:01 PM

fossten. Better put researcher on double-secret probation. :-D

Indiana Jim on January 3, 2016 at 7:13 PM

I’m fun at parties, and if probation is required, please make it triple secret! Speaking of parties…still recovering from the one last night, a fine tradition of drinking as much as possible when local waterfront bars close for the next couple months and everything is 2 for 1! Hair of the dog is not really optional ;-D

Researcher...MO on January 3, 2016 at 9:22 PM

Something I read years ago and have never been able to shake:

De Toqueville observed, in his day, that in societies where whites were in the majority they oppressed blacks. He also observed that when blacks became the majority they massacred the whites.

Cleombrotus on January 3, 2016 at 9:32 PM

The result of these kinds of things where the police fear to do their jobs and protect the peace is that we will end up with lawless no go zones. Coming to a neighborhood near you.

paulsur on January 3, 2016 at 6:42 PM

Not really.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

See, it isn’t limited to military (or anti-terrorist) security. It also includes the “general police authority’s” responsibilities. Put simply, the Second Amendment codifies that most basic rule of Lex Talonis:

You loot, we shoot.

ReggieA on January 3, 2016 at 9:34 PM

The basic fabric of social order is breaking down in too many places.

to quote the man:

Faster, please.

WryTrvllr on January 3, 2016 at 9:46 PM

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

See, it isn’t limited to military (or anti-terrorist) security. It also includes the “general police authority’s” responsibilities. Put simply, the Second Amendment codifies that most basic rule of Lex Talonis:

You loot, we shoot.

ReggieA on January 3, 2016 at 9:34 PM

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Remember, we’re dealing with bozos who can’t comprehend the meaning of the phrase: “the people”.

“But, but, but it says ‘militia’, that sounds a lot like ‘military’, ya know like the U.S. Army, or Marines. NO!!! It’s the National Guard!!!”

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 9:49 PM

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

See, it isn’t limited to military (or anti-terrorist) security. It also includes the “general police authority’s” responsibilities. Put simply, the Second Amendment codifies that most basic rule of Lex Talonis:

You loot, we shoot.

ReggieA on January 3, 2016 at 9:34 PM

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Remember, we’re dealing with bozos who can’t comprehend the meaning of the phrase: “the people”.

“But, but, but it says ‘militia’, that sounds a lot like ‘military’, ya know like the U.S. Army, or Marines. NO!!! It’s the National Guard!!!”

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 9:49 PM

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Like the Founders thought it was important to specifically state the army had a right to bear arms, and that right shall not be infringed.

haha

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 9:52 PM

I encourage liberals to take a nice walk on the top of a high cliff.

Then I will text you.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 9:54 PM

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

See, it isn’t limited to military (or anti-terrorist) security. It also includes the “general police authority’s” responsibilities. Put simply, the Second Amendment codifies that most basic rule of Lex Talonis:

You loot, we shoot.

ReggieA on January 3, 2016 at 9:34 PM

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Remember, we’re dealing with bozos who can’t comprehend the meaning of the phrase: “the people”.

“But, but, but it says ‘militia’, that sounds a lot like ‘military’, ya know like the U.S. Army, or Marines. NO!!! It’s the National Guard!!!”

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 9:49 PM

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Like the Founders thought it was important to specifically state the army had a right to bear arms, and that right shall not be infringed.

haha

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 9:52 PM

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America would have won that war, but the government infringed on the military’s right to keep and bear arms.

very unconstitutional, ya know.

haha

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 10:02 PM

With all these liberals running around loose and unsupervised, I’m gonna give up my gun?

haha

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 10:04 PM

Many thanks to Jazz to consider the context of my comments, which were meant to contrast LEO response in Oregon to other recent events.

It was indeed mighty nice of Jazz to make up that excuse for you.

F X Muldoon on January 3, 2016 at 10:04 PM

^ Jazz did nothing of the sort. The original context is clear.

CivilDiscourse on January 3, 2016 at 10:12 PM

^ Jazz did nothing of the sort. The original context is clear.

As clear as a mud lake, which is why Jazz gave you an out.

F X Muldoon on January 3, 2016 at 10:18 PM

I’m finding the juxtaposition of this article after the OR militia article fascinating.

These two stories alone show how crazy society has gotten and how arbitrary and vindictive the law enforcement and judicial branches in general (not all, enough to be concerning) have gotten.

smokeyblonde on January 3, 2016 at 5:53 PM

And also its juxtaposition to the Chicago airport post: the police now officially told to run and hide, rather than — you know — police the disturbances.

AesopFan on January 3, 2016 at 10:27 PM

And also its juxtaposition to the Chicago airport post: the police now officially told to run and hide, rather than — you know — police the disturbances.

AesopFan on January 3, 2016 at 10:27 PM

Sounds like the same corporate-mandated training I had last week regarding workplace “disturbances”. Which prompted discussions about being armed – which I always am, with something – and all the pacifists hiding behind me, a 45 year old, 5’3″, 110 pound woman.

How pathetic has the US become when I am thrust into the position of protecting scores of others? Not that I mind – just find it sad and pathetic that so many are willing to give their lives to me to defend. Pretty f’d up if ask me.

smokeyblonde on January 3, 2016 at 10:49 PM

How pathetic has the US become when I am thrust into the position of protecting scores of others? Not that I mind – just find it sad and pathetic that so many are willing to give their lives to me to defend. Pretty f’d up if ask me.

smokeyblonde on January 3, 2016 at 10:49 PM

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Particularly pathetic considering the helpless pacifists looking to you to save their useless lives, are the same ones that want you disarmed.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 10:57 PM

Particularly pathetic considering the helpless pacifists looking to you to save their useless lives, are the same ones that want you disarmed.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 10:57 PM

Excellent point.

I just find the out-sourcing of one’s life – and these are generally people with little kids! – astounding.

I would never entrust my future, my families future, my children’s future, on a relative stranger that I only know from the office!

Just WTF are these people thinking?

smokeyblonde on January 3, 2016 at 11:12 PM

There is a simple solution to this. Malls should just ban teens unless they are with their parents.

pearson on January 3, 2016 at 11:17 PM

Particularly pathetic considering the helpless pacifists looking to you to save their useless lives, are the same ones that want you disarmed.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 10:57 PM

Excellent point.

I just find the out-sourcing of one’s life – and these are generally people with little kids! – astounding.

I would never entrust my future, my families future, my children’s future, on a relative stranger that I only know from the office!

Just WTF are these people thinking?

smokeyblonde on January 3, 2016 at 11:12 PM

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Let them dial 9-1-1, while you shoot your way to safety.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 11:17 PM

Let them dial 9-1-1, while you shoot your way to safety.

JackM on January 3, 2016 at 11:17 PM

Guns are verbotten on “campus”. But that doesn’t mean one is un-armed or without a plan.

I, for one, refuse to die on my knees if there are any options to the contrary.

I find it stunning how many are willing to go that way.

smokeyblonde on January 3, 2016 at 11:43 PM

This isn’t a question of the race of the perpetrators in terms of who is breaking the law. (So have a seat, race baiters, and spare me the usual accusations.) It’s a question of the cops being handcuffed in certain areas by fear of the media and SJW backlash. And as a result they made little progress in stopping the crime and arrested nobody.

Jazz you are the perfect example of the white race guilt perp. The Ferguson Effect is a black thug problem. This was a black thug problem–Jazz BLM appreciates your support and guilt.

HatfieldMcCoy on January 4, 2016 at 12:02 AM

Apparently there were no arrests, the media refuses to describe any of the perpetrators, and has pretty much kept the story as quite as possible. If there are no negative consequences for bad behavior, it will inevitably reoccur and increase. Tagging and littering are good examples of this.

claudius on January 4, 2016 at 12:08 AM

It all began when groups of youths

when they can’t say it they say it–we had 400 “youths” shut down Westroads Mall here in Omaha… This is why Amazon shopping is our friend–my wife will never go there again and she is CCA with a SW 542

HatfieldMcCoy on January 4, 2016 at 12:13 AM

Does anyone get the impression that certain groups of folks have lost the fear of repercussion for their activities? If the police and criminal justice system cannot enforce the law, is there any law? If the policy and criminal justice system cannot do their job, who should or will?

Speakeasy on January 4, 2016 at 12:34 AM

Speakeasy on January 4, 2016 at 12:34 AM

I’m assuming you’re talking about the militia presence in Oregon?

CivilDiscourse on January 4, 2016 at 2:03 AM

Your original post on which I commented said “this is about race” – and that’s true only in the minds of the racists. It’s about a culture that largely consists of a certain race, but it is NOT confined to that race, nor is it ubiquitous within that race. It is NOT about race, but about culture.

GWB on January 3, 2016 at 7:23 PM

Yeah, “black culture”

Dollayo on January 4, 2016 at 5:03 AM

The solution to the problems between black Americans and the police is not turning the police into emotionless robots or meter maids, but rather creating an environment where police aren’t forced to exist on a heightened level of anxiety. If the black on black violence were to decline, if the major problems in black communities were truancy and vandalism rather than murder and assault, one would expect a less adversarial relationship to develop. The problem with trying to fix the relationship by heeling the police is that the real problems for black communities only get worse. Baltimore provides a perfect example of what happens when police are intimidated from doing their jobs…

Black Men and Cops: Why Race Matters…

http://www.imperfectamerica.com

imperfectamerica on January 4, 2016 at 5:31 AM

I’m assuming you’re talking about the militia presence in Oregon?

Aren’t you precious ?

F X Muldoon on January 4, 2016 at 5:57 AM

F X Muldoon on January 4, 2016 at 5:57 AM

Must be miserable living with a mind that only sees darkness and whose only joy seems to be in tearing down an existing order.

Do these types EVER contribute ANYTHING edifying or beautiful or complimentary to these threads?

It’s always negative and dark. One wonders if they even SEE anything beautiful or orderly. Do they take joy in the birth of a child? Do they ever thrill at the sound of a beautiful harmony? Do they see hope in anything other than spreading their misery?

Cleombrotus on January 4, 2016 at 7:20 AM

Cleombrotus on January 4, 2016 at 7:20 AM

No, they do not; I have come to the conclusion that these types are all either socks of the bloggers, or actively encouraged, as witnessed by their infrequent banning for infractions for which regulars get sent to Coventry. Either way, it appears their sole purpose is to generate page hits, and not to encourage the real civil discourse this site had in the olden days.

F X Muldoon on January 4, 2016 at 7:53 AM

Leftists believe that our society needs to be destroyed in order to pave the way for their “utopia”.
Therefore they actively promote chaos and destruction.
They are fostering racial discord as part of their overall scheme – which means that they are basically using blacks in this country as “cannon fodder”.
Obama and Holder (and now Lynch) have no problem in using blacks in this manner. For them (and all leftists), Leftism is higher on the priority scale than blacks.

justltl on January 4, 2016 at 7:57 AM

With apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan:

I am the very model of a modern so-called liberal,
I make up information whether scientific or political,
I know Marx and Derrida, but nothing really factual,
I condescend, I’m smarmy, and really quite illogical
When confronted with truth and logic I pull out stuff colonical
In short I am the very model of a modern so-called liberal

F X Muldoon on January 4, 2016 at 8:11 AM

I would challenge anyone to identify a single thing that Obama and his leftist ilk have accomplished for the betterment of our society in general and the situation of blacks in particular.

This is no accident. Again, the immediate goal of leftists is the destruction of our society.

justltl on January 4, 2016 at 8:12 AM

It also takes no imagination to understand that no police officer wants to be involved in an altercation with any politically favored minority. That’s a fight they can’t win, and the chances are at least 50/50 that being in the right and scrupulously following the letter of the law wouldn’t be a defense.

My brother-in-law is a Chicago cop and they’re calling it going “fetal”; just roll up and cover your ass and let the thugs do their thing. It ain’t worth getting charged, or worse, dead by some piece of shit gangbanger. They won’t actively try to prevent/stop crimes in da hood unless they have no choice. The coppers know that the “community” doesn’t support them anyway and many even want them dead. They still try to protect decent citizens (of all races) when they can. And they hate their leadership (including their union bosses) for making this the situation.

Big John on January 4, 2016 at 10:08 AM

…SJW backlash…

Ahem. Don’t be lecturing anybody about being “race baiters” and then casually toss that term around.

Because I hate to break it to you, but there is no “SJW backlash” when the police clash with WHITE people.

Or maybe, the best thing to say is… takes one to know one, obviously.

deadrody on January 4, 2016 at 10:33 AM

F X Muldoon on January 4, 2016 at 8:11 AM

Did you compose that yourself? I’m a longtime G&S fan, and it’s very clever; the meter and cadence are right on, which is tricky to get right. If you just dashed it off the cuff, you must be quite the poet.

CivilDiscourse on January 4, 2016 at 11:19 AM

Did you compose that yourself? I’m a longtime G&S fan,

Yep an original, and if you like G&S, you got one thing going for you…

F X Muldoon on January 4, 2016 at 12:26 PM

Time to break out the Pepper Spray. Hard to riot when you can’t see and have snot running out of your nose.

GarandFan on January 4, 2016 at 1:19 PM

Yep an original, and if you like G&S, you got one thing going for you…

F X Muldoon on January 4, 2016 at 12:26 PM

Oh, I’m sure there are plenty of things we’d be able to have pleasant conversation about. Constantly having political discussions tends to allow people to dehumanize others who disagree with them rather easily. They become an embodiment of all that they hate and oppose politically rather than a flesh-and-blood human who might share commonalities with them. That’s why we’re told not to discuss politics over dinner, and why HA comments aren’t linked to our real names. If they were, I suspect people would be somewhat nicer.

CivilDiscourse on January 4, 2016 at 5:17 PM

CivilDiscourse on January 4, 2016 at 5:17 PM

Perhaps, but on reflection, I think I need another line after line four.

F X Muldoon on January 4, 2016 at 6:44 PM

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