Wow: L.A. closes all city schools over “credible” terror threat; Update: From Germany? Update: “Claims to be an extremist Muslim”; Update: NYC got same “hoax” threat?

posted at 10:41 am on December 15, 2015 by Allahpundit

Bad news either way, as Ross Douthat says. If the threat is bogus, we’ve reached a point of fear where one crank can keep 640,000 students out of school for the day. If the threat isn’t bogus, hoo boy.

The LA Times claims that the threat was “called in” to a school board member but the NYT says it was received “electronically.”

Ramon C. Cortines, the superintendent of schools, said he would keep schools closed until the police had searched buildings to make sure the campuses were safe. Buses that had taken children to school early this morning were turned around and sent back. The threat was received electronically…

The action came as the region remains on edge after the terrorist attack in San Bernardino less than two weeks ago that left 14 people dead and 22 wounded. Over the past two weeks, there have been a number of bomb threats. This one, Mr. Cortines said, raised more concerns.

“A threat had been made to not one school but many schools in this district,” he said. “Some of the details talked about backpacks and other packages. After talking with him, also with the board president, I made a decision to close all of the schools.”

The calculus here is the same for an asteroid strike: Low risk but huge consequences if it pans out. The odds that someone planted bombs in multiple schools without being noticed is tiny, although not as tiny as it was before we found out recently that an honest-to-goodness jihadi was inspecting schools for a California city’s environmental agency. Imagine if the school board, knowing the risk, took a gamble that the threat is phony and let kids come to school — and then bombs started going off. L.A. would never be the same.

So they traded a low-risk/high-cost scenario for a high-risk/low-cost one, namely, that there are bound to be copycat threats now. What do they do the next time someone sends an e-mail claiming that multiple schools are wired?

And what exactly made this threat “credible”? Is there anything apart from the fact that there was a terror attack in California a few weeks ago, and that one of the terrorist’s accomplices has been quoted as saying there are “sleeper cells” around? Stand by for updates.

Update: Per the Times, L.A. has 900 schools plus another 187 charter schools. The LAPD’s going to search all of those today?

Update: Don’t forget, not only did Syed Farook inspect schools, he reportedly had photos of at least one (in Rialto, California) on his cell phone. Was there some evidence in the threat that the person who sent it knew Farook and might be an undiscovered accomplice? How often do jihadis phone in threats before they strike?

Update: Fox News is citing a L.A. school spokesperson as saying the threat came from an IP address in Germany.

Update: A statement from Democratic Rep. Brad Sherman, who represents a district in L.A.:

“I have reviewed the email that was sent to a Los Angeles school board member.

“The author claims to be an extremist Muslim who has teamed up with local jihadists. We do not know whether these claims are true or a lie. We do not know whether this email is from a devout Muslim who supports jihadists or perhaps a non-Muslim with a different agenda.

“The email makes relatively specific and wide raging threats to Los Angeles schools. We do not know whether some or all of the threats are truthful.

The only thing we know is that the email was sent by an evil person.

“We also know what the LA school board has taken the strongest possible action to protect student safety.”

“The text of the email does not demonstrate that the author has studied Islam or has any particular understanding of Islam.

Update: Did L.A. get the same threat that New York got? Because this … doesn’t sound all that credible:

“I think the initiator, the instigator of the threat may be a ‘Homeland’ fan, basically watching ‘Homeland’ episodes that it mirrors a lot of recent episodes on ‘Homeland,'” Bratton said…

Bratton, speaking alongside New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio hours later, said officials in New York had reviewed an email that appeared to be sent from overseas and determined it was a “hoax.”

The email was received by a New York superintendent early Tuesday, Bratton said, adding that one indication it was a hoax was that it did not spell Allah with a capital “A.”

De Blasio described the threat as generic and implausible, and said it was sent to numerous school districts nationwide.


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De Blasio described the threat as generic and implausible, and said it was sent to numerous school districts nationwide.

Ya think the the emails all had the same timestamp, suggesting the “terrorist’ used the the “blind copy” feature for sending them?

Dusty on December 15, 2015 at 1:57 PM

Appears to be the first step in the process to a Beslan type of event in the US. Some hoaxes to disarm everyone, surveal for soft targets. Obama will blame guns and those white male islamophobic Christians while jihadi’s are killing children.

TulsAmerican on December 15, 2015 at 1:55 PM

We’ll see how many more hoaxes happen this week and the first week back.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 1:57 PM

One more year of Barry. Can’t wait to see what fear, uncertainty, and doubt looks like 12 months from now.

steveracer on December 15, 2015 at 1:59 PM

I don’t believe such things are listed on IDs.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 1:41 PM

No, but they are listed in the school’s data system and teachers and office personnel are made aware of them due to liability issues.

I doubt they have time to go through some 250-300,000 data.

A school in San Diego had to pay nearly two million dollars due to releasing a student to an unapproved person.
Neitherleftorright on December 15, 2015 at 1:56 PM

Refer to my previous sentence. That was just one student in one school – multiply all the inherent problems at least 100,000 times. It would create chaos.

Too bad America has come to the point where such things even need to be considered. Wasn’t a problem when I was a kid. Of course, we all provided our own transportation to & from school then – bipedal locomotion.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 2:08 PM

I don’t know how to spoof my IP, although I’m technical. That said, I’m confident that I could learn how in an hour, two at the most. Whether this particular dummy was smart enough to protect himself is another matter.

Immolate on December 15, 2015 at 2:08 PM

That’s the guestimate.
It won’t be on Christmas, probably on that Monday.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM

I would expect it in the days just before Christmas, if anything. But I’m hoping to be proved wrong and that everyone enjoys a safe & great holiday season.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 2:14 PM

Someone in the office said there’s now a threat at the LA Metro station at 7th and Figueroa

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 2:19 PM

I would expect it in the days just before Christmas, if anything. But I’m hoping to be proved wrong and that everyone enjoys a safe & great holiday season.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 2:14 PM

The guy who apparently predicted the SB attack, who was a former Al Queda double agent, says it will happen at the end of the year and then 2016 will be a lot worse.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 2:22 PM

Acrimonious divorces, restraining orders, etc.

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 1:37 PM

I don’t believe such things are listed on IDs.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 1:41 PM

Most schools require forms filled out at the start of the year with detailed contact information of what parents or guardians are allowed to pick up kids. The schools have to check IDs against that list. An ex-wife with no visitation rights could show up and take the kids according to one poster’s method: “Is that your mom? Yes. Ok, see ya later.”

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 2:22 PM

Someone in the office said there’s now a threat at the LA Metro station at 7th and Figueroa

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 2:19 PM

Several Los Angeles commuter trains were shut down Tuesday morning as a precaution after smoke was seen billowing from a train platform, officials said.

Commuters were evacuated after the incident reported at 10:30 a.m. at the Seventh Street/Metro Center station, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, which contracts with Metro.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 2:23 PM

Never mind, it’s just SWAT searching a downtown school nearby.

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 2:24 PM

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 2:23 PM

Never mind, it’s just SWAT searching a downtown school nearby.

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 2:24 PM

Never mind my never mind.

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 2:25 PM

The guy who apparently predicted the SB attack, who was a former Al Queda double agent, says it will happen at the end of the year and then 2016 will be a lot worse.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 2:22 PM

Who is that? Someone who seems to have info or a knowledge of how things work – or do you mean a psychic? I hadn’t heard of it before.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 2:28 PM

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 2:08 PM

I was referring to the process for one school. Teachers are and office personnel are given lists of the approved release people, if the person is not on the list, the student is not released. This is done for both emergencies and everyday early release of students.

The policies are district wide, the enforcement of the policies are done at the school level. The databases are kept up to date at both the school sites and the district level.

Yes it is a shame that this is what it has become. Leftist ideology in American education has left the average citizen with an inability to reason and a dependence on the state, just like their plan has advised.

It is why I hold little hope for change in the upcoming Presidential election.

Neitherleftorright on December 15, 2015 at 2:28 PM

The guy who apparently predicted the SB attack, who was a former Al Queda double agent, says it will happen at the end of the year and then 2016 will be a lot worse.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 2:22 PM

Who is that? Someone who seems to have info or a knowledge of how things work – or do you mean a psychic? I hadn’t heard of it before.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 2:28 PM

Walter L. Newton?

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 2:29 PM

Before the attack:

“I believe that within the next two weeks, we will have an attack,” Morten Storm said on “The Kelly File” tonight.

Here is the interview after the attack.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 2:32 PM

who was a former Al Queda double agent,

Oops, I missed that part. I think I know who that guy is – the one who becane a Christian?

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 2:32 PM

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 2:32 PM

Thanks for the link.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 2:33 PM

Walter L. Newton?

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 2:29 PM

Morton Storm. He was a double agent for the CIA infiltrating ISIS. He is/was a Danish National.

Neitherleftorright on December 15, 2015 at 2:35 PM

This might be the best lesson on Current-Events that these students will ever receive from this district. They should treasure it forever.

Another Drew on December 15, 2015 at 2:37 PM

Yes it is a shame that this is what it has become. Leftist ideology in American education has left the average citizen with an inability to reason and a dependence on the state, just like their plan has advised.

It is why I hold little hope for change in the upcoming Presidential election.

Neitherleftorright on December 15, 2015 at 2:28 PM

Not to mention the breakdown of the nuclear family. Hooray for no-fault divorce, same-sex marriage, etc!

Neitherleftorright on December 15, 2015 at 2:38 PM

This might be the best lesson on Current-Events that these students will ever receive from this district. They should treasure it forever.

Another Drew on December 15, 2015 at 2:37 PM

Ahhh…LOL

Yup. Sure. They’ll treasure these early days off for Christmas break until Spring Break.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM

Just for some perspective on terrorism. In 2008 Donald Trump suggested we impeach George W Bush and considered Obama a transformative presidential candidate.

He claims to be clairvoyant…..sheesh!

Tater Salad on December 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM

Just for some perspective on terrorism. In 2008 Donald Trump suggested we impeach George W Bush and considered Obama a transformative presidential candidate.

He claims to be clairvoyant…..sheesh!

Tater Salad on December 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM

Well…he’s surely has tried his best to fundamentally transform America.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 3:00 PM

Morton Storm. He was a double agent for the CIA infiltrating ISIS. He is/was a Danish National.

Neitherleftorright on December 15, 2015 at 2:35 PM

I thought, at first, maybe you were referring to Walid Shoebat. I hadn’t heard about Morton Storm before – he definitely has some good insight on what to expect.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 3:01 PM

Ooops…my last comment was actually responding to LoganSix.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 3:02 PM

Ooops…my last comment was actually responding to LoganSix.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 3:02 PM

Yeah… I kind of figured that. I popped in a little comment on Morton Storm sort of out of the blue.

Neitherleftorright on December 15, 2015 at 3:05 PM

I hadn’t heard about Morton Storm before – he definitely has some good insight on what to expect.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 3:01 PM

If he ends up to be right about the end of the year attack, then 2016 is not going to be a pleasant year at all. I’m surprised he hasn’t been targeted yet, but he might be good at not being found.

LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 3:08 PM

whoops. Sorry ISIS. Never fuch with the teacher’s union.

WryTrvllr on December 15, 2015 at 3:21 PM

I’m surprised he hasn’t been targeted yet, but he might be good at not being found.
LoganSix on December 15, 2015 at 3:08 PM

If he’s worked with the government, I expect they help keep him “underground”.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 3:24 PM

Keeping to his word, obama has fundamentally changed America, with the help of both republican and democratic leadership.

Welcome to the new norm.

Voodoo Chile on December 15, 2015 at 3:24 PM

whoops. Sorry ISIS. Never fuch with the teacher’s union.

WryTrvllr on December 15, 2015 at 3:21 PM

It’s okay to tick off ISIS; it’s Osiris that you don’t want to get peeved at you.

whatcat on December 15, 2015 at 3:28 PM

Just for some perspective on terrorism. In 2008 Donald Trump suggested we impeach George W Bush and considered Obama a transformative presidential candidate.

He claims to be clairvoyant…..sheesh!

Tater Salad

So he’s right 50% of the time, unless you foolishly believe Obama wasn’t a transformative candidate and hasn’t been a transformative president.

By the way, how many times have your guys stopped funding the abortion they and you pretend to oppose?

xblade on December 15, 2015 at 3:30 PM

It’s weird, because Diversity is Strength.

MMK on December 15, 2015 at 3:48 PM

Lies

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 15, 2015 at 3:52 PM

For what it ain’t worth, the email message had a “pornographic reference to a male body part”.

corona79 on December 15, 2015 at 4:05 PM

Walter L. Newton?

Nutstuyu on December 15, 2015 at 2:29 PM

I got your joke.

IDontCair on December 15, 2015 at 4:30 PM

Mike Reicher
@mreicher

After Columbine feds found just 14 of 1,055 school bomb incidents (with actual bomb or replica bomb) had a warning ow.ly/VVHnX

Warnings not included.

IDontCair on December 15, 2015 at 4:40 PM

CBS Los Angeles [email protected] m12 minutes ago
STORY: Rep. Schiff says #LAUSD threat likely a hoax, ISIS watching law enforcement response http://cbsloc.al/1I7dXWc

corona79 on December 15, 2015 at 5:00 PM

People keep using the word “hoax” when what we all saw was “recon”. Jihadis are stupid, but the people they terrorize certainly are.

Spliff Menendez on December 15, 2015 at 5:02 PM

AUTHORITIES INVESTIGATING SUSPICIOUS ITEM ON AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT

Authorities are investigating a suspicious item that was discovered aboard an American Airlines flight that landed in Miami this afternoon, police said.

All passengers have deplaned the aircraft, and Flight 63, which arrived from Paris at 3:35 p.m., has been moved to a remote area, which is standard practice.

Passengers are being kept on airport buses on the airfield while police perform the investigation, Chin said.

There were 217 passengers and 14 crew members on board the Boeing 777, American Airlines said. The flight departed Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris at 11:55 a.m.

corona79 on December 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM

“The instigator of the threat may be a ‘Homeland’ fan,” NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton told reporters. “Basically, watching ‘Homeland’ episodes that it mirrors, a lot of recent episodes of Homeland… This is not a credible threat. This is not something we’re concerned with.”

ABC News obtained a copy of the email that was sent to New York City school officials that Bratton said was “almost exactly the same” as the one that prompted school closings today in Los Angeles. The message says in part, “I am a devout Muslim, and was once against violence, but I have teamed up with a local jihadist cell as it is the only way I’ll be able to accomplish my massacre the correct way.”

“Something big is going down. Something very big. It will make national headlines. Perhaps, even international ones,” the message reads. The writer claims he was bullied and rejected at “one of the district high schools,” but does not say which.

“Every school in the New York City district is being targeted. We have bombs hidden in lockers already at several schools,” the email says. In addition to explosives, the email says “nerve gas” would also be a part of the attack. Bratton presumably drew the “Homeland” comparison from this portion, since a nerve gas threat is part of this season’s story line.
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An official briefed on the situation who spoke to ABC News said that in addition to New York and Los Angeles, two other school districts were also threatened.

corona79 on December 15, 2015 at 6:04 PM

NYC Bomb Threat Came From A Clock-Inspired Email Address

Noel, noel …

corona79 on December 15, 2015 at 7:03 PM

Apparently ISIS appreciates a bunch of libs afraid of their own shadow: http://www.vocativ.com/news/261444/gleeful-isis-gloats-about-los-angeles-bomb-scare/

Axeman on December 15, 2015 at 9:06 PM

5:30 p.m. – Statement from Superintendent Ramon C. Cortines

Today has been a difficult day, with L.A. Unified schools closed for the first time in decades. Thanks to the extraordinary effort by Los Angeles Unified School Police and law-enforcement partners, all L.A. Unified schools and charters have been inspected and Chief Steven Zipperman has given the all-clear. Classes and after-school activities will resume on Wednesday. The District will have crisis counselors available for students and employees who may need additional support.

corona79 on December 15, 2015 at 11:41 PM

Why would a threat from in Germany be considered so credible a threat? OH -that’s right, they’re FLOODED with terrorist “refugees”.

Pole-Cat on December 16, 2015 at 4:23 AM

You have to ask yourself: is this the best assurance the intelligence community is giving, that because Allah was not spelled with a capital letter it would indicate it was a hoax? So students (Muslim or otherwise) educated in the LA school system have a 100% perfect command on grammar and spelling? Are you kidding me?

stop2think on December 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM

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