King Corn turns up the heat on Ted Cruz in Iowa

posted at 7:21 pm on December 9, 2015 by Jazz Shaw

When this race first kicked off, one of the first things which attracted me to Ted Cruz (among others) was the fact that he was one of only two candidates who were willing to go into the heartland of the ethanol political machine and tell the people of Iowa some hard truths about the Renewable Fuel Standard. The guy has managed to stick to his principles and still found a way to surge in the polls there, currently holding a spot as the strongest challenger against Trump. (For the record, Trump showed up at the big fair in Iowa and pledged to support the RFS.)

King Corn has clearly noticed not only Cruz’s rise, but his “dangrous” talk about ending the RFS and kicking the legs out from under the government gravy train on ethanol. Now they’re striking back. (Des Moines Register)

Supporters of the Renewable Fuels Standard, seen as key to the future of Iowa’s corn-based ethanol production, are ramping up criticism of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, saying he’s the only presidential candidate from both parties who has refused to either tour a biofuels plant or meet with industry lobbyists.

Critics of Cruz, whose has been rising in polls in a crowded field of Republican candidates, held a news conference Tuesday at Lincolnway Energy in Nevada. They accused him of abandoning 75,000 Iowans employed in the renewable fuels industry while supporting subsidies for the oil industry.

The ethanol lobby has been running ads against Cruz non-stop, painting him as being too heavily invested in the fossil fuel industry. Even though Cruz received the endorsement of Steve King, he’s under fire from Eric Branstad, executive director of America’s Renewable Future.

Branstad said Tuesday that King has been a powerful ally for the renewable fuels industry and he hopes the Iowa congressman is sharing information with Cruz. But he expressed disappointment that Cruz has ignored “invitation after invitation” to discuss renewable fuels issues.

“He came to Iowa with his allegiance already established the oil industry, not Iowans and not our caucus process,” Branstad said.

They’re spreading some serious lies about Cruz on the radio there, implying that he’s in favor of government subsidies for fossil fuels but not ethanol. The reality is that Cruz has repeatedly and consistently called for an end to all subsidies, even those for oil and gas. (Which barely exist, in reality, but he still wants to wipe the slate clean.)

On the other end of the dial there’s been some sad doublespeak coming from both Chris Christie and Carly Fiorina. (The latter having previously been fairly strong on the ethanol issue.) The Washington Examiner catches the candidates speaking out of both sides of their mouths.

When Chris Christie is in New Hampshire, he criticizes Hillary Clinton for “wanting to pick the winners and losers,” and adds, “I want the free enterprise system.”

When Christie—endorsed by Rasteter—Is in Iowa, he says, “We should enforce the Renewable Fuel Standard.”

When speaking about Obamacare, Dodd-Frank and Wall Street, Carly Fiorina says, “The people that the federal government favors now are the big, the powerful and the well connected.”

When I asked her about ethanol a few minutes later, Fiorina answered, “I’ve been very clear that I support the Renewable Fuel Standard as it currently stands.”

Very disappointing, but the reality has come clear. There’s a dirty little battle going on in Iowa right now and the usual suspects are turning their fire on Ted Cruz. I knew I liked something about that guy…


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Kudos to Cruz on this. But not Ben Carson who was the biggest Iowa panderer of them all.

Ben Carson on wanting a 30% Ethanol Standard:

In Iowa, speaking about renewable energy, he began with a classic conservative talking point, before veering into liberal territory.

“I don’t particularly like the idea of government subsidies for anything because it interferes with the natural free market,” he began, according to The Des Moines Register. “Therefore, I would probably be in favor of taking that $4 billion a year we spend on oil subsidies and using that in new fueling stations” for 30% ethanol blends, he said, arguing gas prices would drop and the environment would benefit. [“the environment would benefit” … in what way? this is climate change claptrap from Ben Carson]

Carson’s proposed subsidies are far larger than anything that’s been put on the table to date..

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/does-ben-carson-have-liberal-side

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portlandon on December 9, 2015 at 7:27 PM

Lest see if he finds a way to “triangulate”.

We’re watching Ted.

You already screwed up on the H1B visa issue and ObamaTrade.

PappyD61 on December 9, 2015 at 7:27 PM

portlandon on December 9, 2015 at 7:27 PM

LOL.

I remember Scott Walker started tanking right after going to Iowa and pandering to KingCorn (not the HA commenter).

ShainS on December 9, 2015 at 7:31 PM

portlandon on December 9, 2015 at 7:27 PM

Give him a minute. He’s still slobbering in the headlines thread.

cozmo on December 9, 2015 at 7:33 PM

portlandon on December 9, 2015 at 7:27 PM

actually I like cruz on this, too bad he chooses foreigners, illegal and legal for lobbyist bribes(the slave wage lobbyist pay better than ethanol lobbyist) to provide slave wagers to take American jobs and drive down wages over American Citizens while importing a permanent democrat voting majority.

Trump actually chooses America and Americans over slavewagers for lobbyist bribes, kind of a much BIGGER issue, and why Trump will be our next president.

hmm, so slick teddy is good on ethanol, whoopidy doo

Garyinaz66 on December 9, 2015 at 7:33 PM

cozmo on December 9, 2015 at 7:33 PM

ahh, soo roomy and cheap living rent free in your head :-)

Garyinaz66 on December 9, 2015 at 7:35 PM

Stick to your guns Cruz! This crap is destroying our engines, driving up food costs and making a handul of Mega corporation farms rich at the nation’s expense.

If their corn garbage worked they’d be competing in the market.

Megyn Kellys Lipstick on December 9, 2015 at 7:35 PM

portlandon on December 9, 2015 at 7:27 PM

How’d you get six months worth of posts pasted so perfectly?

Kudos on Cruz. Tell King Corn popcorn rocks.

Limerick on December 9, 2015 at 7:36 PM

Um, okay hunny. Look around, you may learn something.

cozmo on December 9, 2015 at 7:36 PM

In case anyone doesn’t want to click on Jazz’s link to that notorious anti-Trump website, Breitbart.com, here’s the paragraph in question:

After the rally, one attendee shouted out to Trump as he was signing posters for supporters: “Mr. Trump, What do you think about ethanol?”

“I love it, I’m for it,” Trump said simply before exiting the stage.

So for the Trump backers here snarking at Cruz, I guess E85 for all future vehicles is the way to go, right?

jon1979 on December 9, 2015 at 7:36 PM

I’m not worried at all about entitlements anymore. The open borders that both the Democrats and Republicans want will end the welfare state. It’s a shame we gotta take the country down with it, but it’s not like we can stop it.

DFCtomm on December 9, 2015 at 7:37 PM

OT
Posted all of it on the Palin thread.

300 12 to 18 year old from ? central America is all we know so far.

Congressman John Ratcliff sent out the notice to City of Rockwall and Rockwall County, today (ETJ) of City of Rockwall.
Seems he does not know date or it is being withheld.

Being temporary housed at 576 Sabine Creek Rd, at Sabine Creek Ranch facility, Royse City Texas 75189 (google) .

The large group of conservative State Senators who just got elected are on the deal. Gov. Abbot is now in the loop.

We figure Cornyn is in the deal as it seems to be a Baptist Church operation .

Do not know if Cruz knows are had prior knowledge.

Attempting to get atty’s and stuff together to get a temporary injunction.

This may be going on in other areas, check around as this is Obama in action and greed via the churches and non thinking Bible Thumpers.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 9, 2015 at 7:37 PM

In case anyone doesn’t want to click on Jazz’s link to that notorious anti-Trump website, Breitbart.com, here’s the paragraph in question:

After the rally, one attendee shouted out to Trump as he was signing posters for supporters: “Mr. Trump, What do you think about ethanol?”

“I love it, I’m for it,” Trump said simply before exiting the stage.

So for the Trump backers here snarking at Cruz, I guess E85 for all future vehicles is the way to go, right?

jon1979 on December 9, 2015 at 7:36 PM

How else are you to get drunk except thru ethanol.

RickB on December 9, 2015 at 7:40 PM

Iowans need to get their heads out of their asses. Our nation is circling the toilet with these types of brain-dead statist policies. Who in the Hell burns food for fuel? We have plenty of natural resources to sustain our energy needs and these 1st-in-the-nation pricks are only looking out for themselves. Besides, ethanol is horrible for the environment. Even Diane Feinstein wants to kill the ethanol subsidy.

Brian in Titletown on December 9, 2015 at 7:40 PM

The ethanol lobby has been running ads against Cruz non-stop, painting him as being too heavily invested in the fossil fuel industry. Even though Cruz received the endorsement of Steve King, he’s under fire from Eric Branstad, executive director of America’s Renewable Future.

…he should be supported just for taking on the ethanol polluters!

JugEarsButtHurt on December 9, 2015 at 7:41 PM

I like many things Trump is saying, but no way a conservative would support this scam.

Megyn Kellys Lipstick on December 9, 2015 at 7:41 PM

Unfortunately, if history is an indicator, Cruz will try split the difference and have it both ways.

Please Ted show some spine.

Tater Salad on December 9, 2015 at 7:43 PM

Overall, I like Cruz. He is as true a conservative as can be seen on the campaign trail. He is consistent, whether or not all agree with his stands. I believe that he has the best chance of beating Killary. There is no way that Trump, if nominated, will win the election. Cruz would make mincemeat of The Tramp.

vnvet on December 9, 2015 at 7:44 PM

Megyn Kellys Lipstick on December 9, 2015 at 7:41 PM

He ain’t a conservative as much as he is a populist.

cozmo on December 9, 2015 at 7:44 PM

Iowans need to get their heads out of their asses. Our nation is circling the toilet with these types of brain-dead statist policies. Who in the Hell burns food for fuel? We have plenty of natural resources to sustain our energy needs and these 1st-in-the-nation pricks are only looking out for themselves. Besides, ethanol is horrible for the environment. Even Diane Feinstein wants to kill the ethanol subsidy.

Brian in Titletown on December 9, 2015 at 7:40 PM

X2!

vnvet on December 9, 2015 at 7:45 PM

Brian in Titletown on December 9, 2015 at 7:40 PM

and from what I understand is there is better ethanol than that derived by corn. This particular constant corn bj subsidies is making me crazy. The btu’s are inefficient, and as you said, the damage to engines.

arnold ziffel on December 9, 2015 at 7:49 PM

We need to randomize the order of the primary states. The media and the LIVs make too much of a deal about winning a worthless corn Mafia state, so pols promise to pay these bribes to “get off to a good start”. This racket must stop.

Megyn Kellys Lipstick on December 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM

If there was ever a bigger issue relating to political suck-upmanship than this ethanol thing, I haven’t heard of it. Most other campaign issues deal with some fact and lots of emotion, such as immigration. This ethanol issue deals with running from facts and intense greed.

Ethanol subsidies are nothing more than welfare, it should end. Will it ever though? I doubt Cruz would end it, and Trump says he’ll continue it, but I bet he wont.

What a game.

Andy__B on December 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM

vnvet on December 9, 2015 at 7:44 PM

if it will be so easy for hillary to beat Trump, why isnt cruz doing so?

Limbaugh to GOP Trump Detractors: If It’s Going to Be Easy for Hillary to Beat Trump, Why Can’t You?
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/09/limbaugh-to-gop-candidate-trump-detractors-if-its-going-to-be-easy-for-hillary-to-beat-trump-why-cant-you/

Garyinaz66 on December 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM

Cruz is a lawyer, he supports unskilled immigrant masses relocating here, his wife is a bankster…he’s become quite repulsive to me.

Mr. Arrogant on December 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM

Megyn Kellys Lipstick on December 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM

absolutely! randomize, rotate, something.

Garyinaz66 on December 9, 2015 at 7:54 PM

Mr. Arrogant on December 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM

Is that you Jeb?

Megyn Kellys Lipstick on December 9, 2015 at 7:55 PM

Garyinaz66 on December 9, 2015 at 7:33 PM

Trying to slander Cruz in such a sloppy, unethical Trump-pandering manner earns the laugh award of the day.

At least Cruz proposes programs that will work, are affordable and legal; he’s also careful to outline what a president may unilaterally implement and what will require legislation. Trump, on the other hand, appears to be running for emperor because his promises would require unlimited executive authority… when confronted with the impossibility of deporting all illegals due to many years of required litigation and hundreds of billions of dollars in cost, Trump dismissively said he would “ignore the courts”. Well, heck, I guess that settles that. Trump for Emperor 2016!

Trump’s bloviations ought to be a warning sign to a rational person that Trump is just tickling ears and stroking emotions… but his devoted fans wallow in this nonsense and consider anyone who challenges The Donald to be a traitor, sellout and globalist. You have to laugh when a Trumpster says, “I read his book, The Art of the Deal, and that’s how you do this! You go for the moon and, if you have to, you scale it back a bit. That’s how you win! That’s how America will win again!” In the real world, this is called “over promise, under deliver” and the aftertaste is shinola.

Cruz is the most honest candidate we’ve had since Reagan. He won’t bow to King Corn.

Jumpintimmy on December 9, 2015 at 7:56 PM

Cruz is a lawyer, he supports unskilled immigrant masses relocating here, his wife is a bankster…he’s become quite repulsive to me.

Mr. Arrogant on December 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM

OMG! OMG! Cruz is a lawyer! OMG! His wife is a banker! We can’t have lawyers or bankers in this world.

What, did you lose get foreclosed or lose a case because of a skilled lawyer?

Vince on December 9, 2015 at 7:59 PM

Of course the Iowa Corn Cartel is dishonest about Cruz. They will do anything to protect their interest, including lying, smearing, and expecting the taxpayer to fatten their purse.

Cruz is the best candidate on this issue. You know who sucks ? Everyone else.

jaime on December 9, 2015 at 8:04 PM

We need to randomize the order of the primary states.

Megyn Kellys Lipstick on December 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM

One of my favorite comments here from over a year ago:

So sick of iowa in general. States should be ranked in terms of percentage of vote to the last presidential candidate. Most Republican voting first, least Republican voting last. Iowa would be 30th.

The feelings of a state that went for Obama should not lead off the Republican primaries.

Irritable Pundit on September 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

ShainS on December 9, 2015 at 8:05 PM

Can we please just remove Iowa as the first-in-the-nation caucus? It has long outlived its usefulness.

Excellent117 on December 9, 2015 at 8:10 PM

So for the Trump backers here snarking at Cruz, I guess E85 for all future vehicles is the way to go, right?

jon1979

Nope. But ethanol ain’t going to sneak across the border and kill Americans, is it? I mean, make up your mind…are we supposed to be purists or not?

xblade on December 9, 2015 at 8:11 PM

(For the record, Trump showed up at the big fair in Iowa and pledged to support the RFS.)

Doesn’t matter to Mr. Trump’s supporters. A glaring display of their indifference, some might say hypocrisy, on this issue, is on full display in this thread.

Flora Duh on December 9, 2015 at 8:12 PM

We need to randomize the order of the primary states. The media and the LIVs make too much of a deal about winning a worthless corn Mafia state, so pols promise to pay these bribes to “get off to a good start”. This racket must stop.

Megyn Kellys Lipstick on December 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM

That’s what I’ve been saying all along… maybe group the states by region, and hold five-state primaries every two weeks. And the regions rotate every election cycle, with the states that went last leading off four years later.

TMOverbeck on December 9, 2015 at 8:19 PM

This is exactly why Iowa should be shunned by the RNC as an early primary/caucus state. The only reason the RFS exists is because they are the first such state. Let the Democrats be the demagogues and panderers. Fvck Iowa!

TXUS on December 9, 2015 at 8:19 PM

In case anyone doesn’t want to click on Jazz’s link to that notorious anti-Trump website, Breitbart.com, here’s the paragraph in question:

After the rally, one attendee shouted out to Trump as he was signing posters for supporters: “Mr. Trump, What do you think about ethanol?”

“I love it, I’m for it,” Trump said simply before exiting the stage.

So for the Trump backers here snarking at Cruz, I guess E85 for all future vehicles is the way to go, right?

jon1979 on December 9, 2015 at 7:36 PM

Kinda sounds like you have an agenda – are you working for Rubio or Bush?

celt on December 9, 2015 at 8:23 PM

Nope. But ethanol ain’t going to sneak across the border and kill Americans, is it? I mean, make up your mind…are we supposed to be purists or not?

xblade on December 9, 2015 at 8:11 PM

Maybe some clarification is in order… there’s nothing pure, precise, specific, demonstrative or explanatory about Trump’s statements. He simply says stuff that requires that the listener “fill in the blanks” as they desire. It’s the same verbal technique Obama used to woo his masses. Those that followed heard what they wanted to hear implied in the message.

“We have to go after the families. We just do. We have to go after the families”…. (fill in as desired)

“We have to deport them. We just do. We have to deport them all. But we’ll let the good ones back in, just the good ones”. (fill in as desired)

“Our leaders, they are so stupid. We don’t win anymore. China wins. Mexico wins. Our leaders are so stupid. We can make America great again!” (fill in as desired)

It’s pure cognitive suggestion… brain wash for the masses who are frustrated beyond description. This is the same breeze that swept Obama into office, just blowing in the opposite direction. The last thing we need again is a neophyte over-promise, under-deliver guy in the White House.

Jumpintimmy on December 9, 2015 at 8:38 PM

Trump actually chooses America and Americans over slavewagers for lobbyist bribes, kind of a much BIGGER issue, and why Trump will be our next president.

hmm, so slick teddy is good on ethanol, whoopidy doo

Garyinaz66 on December 9, 2015 at 7:33 PM

The difference is the Cruz has stood his ground despite opposition. Trump has no such history we can look at and likely would abandon everything he said on the trail once in office.

Occams Stubble on December 9, 2015 at 8:39 PM

Cruz is going to sweep Iowa.

Pork-Chop on December 9, 2015 at 8:40 PM

Well, this seems to be the year of “The media attacks you…your poll numbers go up!”

Count to 10 on December 9, 2015 at 8:46 PM

Pork-Chop on December 9, 2015 at 8:40 PM

Doubtful, but possible.

cozmo on December 9, 2015 at 8:48 PM

Kinda sounds like you have an agenda – are you working for Rubio or Bush?
celt on December 9, 2015 at 8:23 PM

Everyone has an opinion.. but the moment someone questions a Trump position it becomes an agenda favoring Rubio or Bush? When Cruz was the focus of this post? Really? And then you imply the comment was made because he was “working” (i.e., paid) by Rubio or Bush? Really?

The new traitors are apparently those who don’t reflexively kiss Trump’s ring. Assign them to the “establishment bin” and toss them aside. Really?

I think this Trump For Benevolent Dictator 2016 thing has gotten out of hand.

Jumpintimmy on December 9, 2015 at 8:52 PM

I think this Trump For Benevolent Dictator 2016 thing has gotten out of hand.

Jumpintimmy on December 9, 2015 at 8:52 PM

Me too. I am the only one qualified for that position.

cozmo on December 9, 2015 at 8:54 PM

In a real purity test, no jobs would ever be subsidized by taxpayers. But of course we know that’s not true.

If Cruz is against ethanol subsidies, he has a very good reason, and it probably has nothing to do with being a noble, small govt conservative.

cimbri on December 9, 2015 at 8:56 PM

Cruz will be fine.

Bmore on December 9, 2015 at 9:07 PM

Cruz has a 97% conservative rating in the senate, I guarantee Trump wouldn’t break 60 %. That being said, I’m willing to vote for trump on immigration alone and fight him on the other forty percent.

wheelgun on December 9, 2015 at 9:12 PM

This is a major problem with holding the first caucus in Iowa, where most farmers (who usually vote Republican) are drinking from the government teat.

From an economic and energy point of view, turning corn into ethanol for fuel is a total loser. About 80 gallons of fossil-fuels need to be burned to produce 100 gallons of ethanol from corn, and a gallon of ethanol only produces about 2/3 of the energy of a gallon of gasoline.

Without the Renewable Fuel Standard mandates, no one would want to lose money turning valuable food into ethanol. But very few candidates of either party want to pi$$ off corn farmers by turning off the government money spigot.

Ted Cruz, as a Senator from Texas, sees the bigger picture. Texas produces a lot of crude oil, and a lot of beef cattle. Removing the RFS would increase the demand for gasoline, and free up a lot of corn to be fed to cattle, which would either lower the price of beef or increase the profit margins of ranchers.

Steve Z on December 9, 2015 at 9:22 PM

I did hear a radio ad today claiming that Cruz supported oil subsidies, but it wasn’t an ethanol ad. It was a wind energy ad. Ethanol isn’t the only energy scam with a lot of power here in Iowa.

Toastradamus on December 9, 2015 at 9:55 PM

Yet another reason to love Sen. Ted Cruz. Guts, standing out from the crowd of crony cowards running for president.

Ethanol is a great example of what a horrible, stupid, corrupt federal government we have. Krony Krapitalism, screwing all Americans, every day, big time.

RedBaker on December 9, 2015 at 10:10 PM

Jazz, the US oil and gas industry is one of the most heavily taxed in the country. The government makes a helluva lot more on a gallon of gasoline than the oil companies make.

There are NO subsidies for the oil industry. They do get the same business tax deductions that every other industry in the country gets. Those are NOT subsidies. Quit buying into the leftist talking points.

iurockhead on December 9, 2015 at 11:22 PM

These RFS a-holes are used to playing the Democrat game of “dueling interest groups” and coercively claiming Cruz is “for” the oil industry and “against” the corn farmers. I believe he is “for” sensible policies that further American interests and “against” government coffers being used to buy constituencies for his party.

jbspry on December 10, 2015 at 6:53 AM

“He came to Iowa with his allegiance already established the oil industry, not Iowans and not our caucus process,” Branstad said.

So says a tard who’s allegiance is to anyone that will funnel bribes to the governor’s son, who’s only qualification to engineer our nation’s fuels is a Poli Sci degree…and being the governor’s son.

A son who once took out a couple due to reckless driving.

MNHawk on December 10, 2015 at 9:28 AM

Doesn’t matter to Mr. Trump’s supporters. A glaring display of their indifference, some might say hypocrisy, on this issue, is on full display in this thread.

Flora Duh on December 9, 2015 at 8:12 PM

I like Cruz on this issue, but if it comes down to a comparison…

I will support Trump because of his immigration stance and protecting Americans from people who want to kill us, over ending one government subsidy.

You seem as if you’d prefer a bunch of dead Americans over this one issue, which demonstrates either a completely irrational hatred (please seek help), or your priority doesn’t align with most Americans. But please tell me how killing Americans isn’t a big deal, or that ending one subsidy is far more important than a nation’s sovereignty.

And you wonder why we mock the Establishment, and want to see it burned to the ground and destroyed utterly.

dominigan on December 10, 2015 at 10:01 AM

With Dems absolutely murdering the manufacturing sector, biofuels and wind are big employers here in IA. Everyone already knows neither one makes any sense without big subsidies, but to many they are unfortunately “the future.”
Those subsidies provide a lot of jobs and trickle down to layer after layer of sub-tier suppliers. So it’s a very potent form of welfare for Iowans. I’m against it, but going anti “renewable energy” here in Iowa is like asking welfare recipients to vote for welfare reform. Someone else will need to pull the plug, because Iowans sure won’t.

Free Indeed on December 10, 2015 at 10:20 AM

You seem as if you’d prefer a bunch of dead Americans over this one issue

The only chink in Cruz’s armor on immigration is that he won’t commit to what he’d do about the illegal immigrants already here. Otherwise he and Trump are simpatico. They both want to hold up Muslim immigration, which is a great idea.

Free Indeed on December 10, 2015 at 10:22 AM

Thou shalt not thwart the will of ADM!
Do you expect Bob Dole to survive on just his residuals from a Viagara ad?

Another Drew on December 10, 2015 at 10:43 AM

People who think Cruz and Trump have wildly differing immigration stands are silly.

Cruz has a soft spot for H1-Bs and Trump has a soft spot for saying he will deport and then let the good ones right back in. He won’t deport in mass – in the end he or Cruz would enforce the current law about the same way and then look for illegals to deport themselves. I don’t see nearly enough difference between them to make a difference.

Zomcon JEM on December 10, 2015 at 11:52 AM

if Trump is so all-powerful “For The People” … speaking of the 75,000 “renewable fuels industry” (what a joke) …

why just those 75,000? why not side with the Millions of Americans whose vehicles will be damaged by E85? or have to pay more for E85?

pick which People you are for.

Ethanol is good for only one thing i can think of (hic!).

WaldoTJ on December 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM