Obama spent Friday talking gun control, not terrorism

posted at 5:31 pm on December 6, 2015 by Taylor Millard

President Barack Obama’s big meeting on Friday wasn’t to discuss terrorism, but to discuss gun control. He met with former Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and husband Mark Kelly, in what POLITCO called an “unannounced meeting” which had been planned before the terrorist attack in California. The White House certainly didn’t tip its cap into exactly what was being discussed, except for a brief blurb on its website.

As part of the Administration’s ongoing effort to address gun violence in America, today President Obama met with former Representative Gabby Giffords and her husband Mark Kelly to talk about possible ways to help reduce gun violence. They discussed what more can be done to keep guns out of the hands of those who should not have them including ongoing efforts by the Administration to identify additional actions within existing authorities. The President also thanked the two for their leadership and on-going efforts to prevent and address gun violence. The President’s Senior Advisor Valerie Jarrett was also in attendance.

For those wondering, Obama’s meeting with Giffords happened after FBI Director James Comey announced agents considered the California attack to be terrorism. It’s completely possible the White House kept the meeting on because Giffords and Kelly live in Tucson, and Obama didn’t want to keep them in town for longer than necessary. But it seems odd to hold the meeting, and publicize it, when the concern isn’t gun control but terrorism. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest did say Friday morning the President had been briefed on what happened in San Bernardino, but only called it a “regular update” on what was going on. The President hasn’t uttered a peep about terrorism since then, except for a mention about it in his weekly address. Via the White House:

It is entirely possible that these two attackers were radicalized to commit this act of terror. And if so, it would underscore a threat we’ve been focused on for years—the danger of people succumbing to violent extremist ideologies. We know that ISIL and other terrorist groups are actively encouraging people—around the world and in our country—to commit terrible acts of violence, often times as lone wolf actors. And even as we work to prevent attacks, all of us—government, law enforcement, communities, faith leaders—need to work together to prevent people from falling victim to these hateful ideologies.

This isn’t stopping the White House from pushing the “people on the No-Fly list can buy guns” narrative. Obama did it again in his weekly address, claiming it will keep more people safe.

We know that the killers in San Bernardino used military-style assault weapons—weapons of war—to kill as many people as they could. It’s another tragic reminder that here in America it’s way too easy for dangerous people to get their hands on a gun.

For example, right now, people on the No-Fly list can walk into a store and buy a gun. That is insane. If you’re too dangerous to board a plane, you’re too dangerous, by definition, to buy a gun

This completely ignores the fact it appears the San Bernardino shooters may have gotten their neighbor to buy the rifles they used, and the fact they were illegal under California law. It also ignores how secretive and vague the federal government is on what gets people on the “No-Fly list.” The Justice Department was ordered to release its criteria last year, but refused, claiming state secrets. This is why it doesn’t make sense to ban people from getting guns if they’re on the “No-Fly list” because there’s too much room for error. Right now, it looks like the address will focus on terrorism, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see the “No-Fly list” comment pop up at some point.

There something else which doesn’t make sense. Why did Obama wait until tonight to fully comment on the terrorism angle in San Bernardino? Is Obama seriously worried about the ratings that he has to wait until Sunday to talk about what happened? It certainly didn’t stop him from commenting on past Fridays when tragedy struck. Obama addressed the nation July 20, 2012 when the Aurora shooting happened, and did the same thing after Sandy Hook. The other strange part of this is the fact Obama’s comments on Aurora and Sandy Hook didn’t go that long. He spent a total of 13 minutes delivering addresses on those tragedies when they happened. President George W. Bush’s address on September 11th was only 4:32. It’s completely possible Obama could have walked out into either the White House press room or the Oval Office on Friday, given remarks, then gone about his weekend. It just seems like a complete failure of logic for the President to wait two days to comment on terrorism. Maybe he just didn’t want to be late to the White House reception that night. It just seems like a weird, unnecessary, and unneeded delay. Just like Friday’s meeting with Giffords.


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the Marianas Trench, I simply don’t remember.

Bishop on December 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM

Bishop: Challengers Deep Eh!!:)

canopfor on December 6, 2015 at 6:56 PM

AFK/Nap. I’ll be snuggled into a pillow, imagining RWM saying, “Axie? More hot water” while Obama is standing clenched and lying to people. Trade places? Please. He wishes.

YAWN

If the revolution comes in the next few hours, please keep it down if you can. If you can’t, it is what it is.

Marianas Trench

lol

Axe on December 6, 2015 at 6:56 PM

Exactly what about the statement “criminals ignore the law” don’t Democrats understand?

Instead of an opportunity to identify and address the real issues, every tragic incident becomes an opportunity for subterfuge, dissembling and division.

I think most people realize the President, Hillary and the entire Democrat Party is out of touch. When you try to convince people that dying at the hands of Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorist is less important than phony global warming, you’ve lost most of the electorate.

Marcus Traianus on December 6, 2015 at 6:56 PM

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canopfor on December 5, 2015 at 11:45 PM

canopfor on December 6, 2015 at 6:58 PM

Axe on December 6, 2015 at 6:15 PM

It’s what I do with my weekends. The rest of the time I assume Bishop will keep things under control.

Jazz Shaw on December 6, 2015 at 6:59 PM

Remember all the way back to June when all the left cared about was the shooter’s motive? Now not so much.

supernova on December 6, 2015 at 7:02 PM

Kill’Em All Part Deux::
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2016 US elections
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Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, debuts ad during Big Ten Championship, vowing ‘we’ll kill the terrorists’ – @thehill
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December 05, 2015, 11:52 am
Cruz in Iowa ad: ‘We’ll kill the terrorists’
By Mario Trujillo
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“If I’m elected to serve as Commander-in-Chief, we won’t cower in the face of evil. America will lead,” Cruz says directly into the camera. “We’ll rebuild our military. We’ll kill the terrorists. And every Islamic extremist will know, if you wage jihad against us, you’re signing your death warrant.”
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canopfor on December 6, 2015 at 7:03 PM

The money paragraph…

What President Obama should say about terror

But in the meantime, before we throw up our hands in despair, it is worth keeping in mind something remarkable about what happened this week: Fewer people died in San Bernardino than might have, otherwise, thanks to the incredible performance of public safety and health professionals in California.

http://www.cn n.com/2015/12/05/opinions/kayyem-president-obama-security/index.html

I’ll translate.

“It’s worth keeping in mind that if you are gunned down by a Islamic terrorist, you may not die.”

That’s a relief.

Juliette Kayyem, you’re f’king crazy. If after 5 days, this is the opinion piece you comes up with. Idiot. You have the opportunity to state opinion, not just facts and you waste your time with this kind of squish.

Walter L. Newton on December 6, 2015 at 7:04 PM

It’s what I do with my weekends. The rest of the time I assume Bishop will keep things under control.

Jazz Shaw on December 6, 2015 at 6:59 PM

Hmmm… you sound a bit worried about your job. I’ve never seen you spend so much time interacting with HA users.

Walter L. Newton on December 6, 2015 at 7:05 PM

Actually Walter I think Jazz and Ed are the only ones who do spend time reading a few comments and responding to them.

AP might but rarely..

dougmva on December 6, 2015 at 7:07 PM

Walter L. Newton on December 6, 2015 at 7:05 PM

Jazz is the best when it comes to interaction.

Even with those who razz Jazz.

cozmo on December 6, 2015 at 7:11 PM

Jazz is the best when it comes to interaction.

Even with those who razz Jazz.

cozmo on December 6, 2015 at 7:11 PM

I think I only razzed Jazz once.

I like Jazz.

I’m just worried about his job.

Walter L. Newton on December 6, 2015 at 7:12 PM

Walter L. Newton on December 6, 2015 at 7:05 PM

It’s called being personable, Walter.

thatsafactjack on December 6, 2015 at 7:14 PM

It’s called being personable, Walter.

thatsafactjack on December 6, 2015 at 7:14 PM

I don’t understand that concept.

Walter L. Newton on December 6, 2015 at 7:14 PM

Just an FYI for everyone, AP is doing an open thread for the President’s address at 7:30 pm eastern in lieu of QoTD so that will be the overnight thread. Figured it would be a topic of interest. There will be a 2 hr gap between posts before that one.

– The Management –

Jazz Shaw on December 6, 2015 at 6:03 PM

Jazz Shaw: You just avoided a Mutiny,…(sarc):)
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President Obama Addresses the Nation on Keeping the American People Safe
December 6, 2015 at 10:18 AM ET by Tanya Somanader

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Watch live at 8pm ET on Sunday, December 6, when President Obama will deliver an address on his top priority: Keeping Americans safe.

On Sunday, December 6, at 8:00 pm ET, President Obama will address the nation from the Oval Office about the steps our government is taking to fulfill his highest priority: Keeping the American people safe.

He will provide an update on the ongoing investigation into the tragic attack in San Bernardino. He will also discuss the broader threat of terrorism — including the nature of the threat, how it has evolved, and how we will defeat it.

He will reiterate his firm conviction that ISIL will be destroyed and that the United States must draw upon our values — our unwavering commitment to justice, equality, and freedom — to prevail over terrorist groups that use violence to advance a destructive ideology.

Check back here for further details and to watch the address live at 8:00pm ET on December 6.
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canopfor on December 6, 2015 at 7:15 PM

thatsafactjack on December 6, 2015 at 7:14 PM

What’s that?

cozmo on December 6, 2015 at 7:15 PM

canopfor on December 6, 2015 at 7:15 PM

He’s going to tell us ‘who we are’ again.

thatsafactjack on December 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM

was Jazz razzed while razzing Jazz

gerrym51 on December 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM

Happy Hanukkah everyone. Well, except you on the left coast.

Jazz… are we going to have a Hanukkah thread?

Walter L. Newton on December 6, 2015 at 7:18 PM

WTF?…………..Gun Grabby???:
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San Bernardino, Calif., shooting, Dec. 2, 2015
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Upcoming:

At 8 pm ET, President Obama will speak from the Oval Office counter-terrorism policies in wake of a mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif. We will have live video of the event and provide updates.
End of note

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on December 6, 2015 at 7:18 PM

gerrym51 on December 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM

Was Jazz jazzed whilst being jazzily razzed?

cozmo on December 6, 2015 at 7:20 PM

2015/12/06 at 7:18 pm

Jazz… are we going to have a Hanukkah thread?

The POTUS speech is the overnight, so I don’t have one tonight, sorry.

Jazz Shaw on December 6, 2015 at 7:21 PM

I will be live-tweeting President Obama’s prime-time speech tonight starting at 7:50 P.M. (Eastern).Will he finally state the real problems?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 6, 2015

kcewa on December 6, 2015 at 7:21 PM

Hubs and I were at the range today and the gun store was three people deep. Black, white men, women. We stood around and talked to some of them. Men were saying their wives are now making the commitment to owning and learning a firearm. All said Obama and lack of leadership in DC was the main reason. The thought was “we’re on our own”. Heard repeatedly. We weren’t surprised.

megthered on December 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM

The “far-Right” Front National (FN) was on Sunday night on course to make historic gains in regional elections in France.

early estimates suggested the FN had fared even better than expected by coming first in six out of 13 “super-regions” in round one with the run-off next Sunday.

It won the largest slice of the national vote – on around 30 per cent compared to around 27 per cent for the Right and its allies and around 23 per cent for the ruling Socialists leading Marine Le Pen, its leader to declare the FN “without contest the first party of France”.

kcewa on December 6, 2015 at 7:30 PM

Jazz. Drinking a martini for the speech tonight?? PS. Do you approve of bleu cheese stuffed olives for martinis???

Indiana Jim on December 6, 2015 at 7:31 PM

I will be live-tweeting President Obama’s prime-time speech tonight starting at 7:50 P.M. (Eastern).Will he finally state the real problems?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 6, 2015
kcewa on December 6, 2015 at 7:21 PM
Well The Donald will at least be entertaining….Obama will repeat talking points via telepromter….

sorrowen on December 6, 2015 at 7:32 PM

I’ve noticed Fox News has Rubio on after the fireside chat…..was he the only one available or was he already booked…?

d1carter on December 6, 2015 at 7:32 PM


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Weekly Address: We Will Not Be Terrorized
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Published on Dec 5, 2015

In this week’s address, the President offered his condolences to the families and community of the victims of the San Bernardino shooting.

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canopfor on December 6, 2015 at 7:32 PM

2015/12/06 at 7:31 pm

Jazz. Drinking a martini for the speech tonight?? PS. Do you approve of bleu cheese stuffed olives for martinis???

I don’t normally answer these, but you hit my sore spot as a martini snob. (TM) Martinis are only true martinis with four ingredients: Gin, Vermouth, Olive (which includes olive juice) and water (because a proper martinis is stirred and shaken over ice wherein the alcohol melts some of the ice and produces water.) That’s why the “Dirty Martini” qualifies as a true martini. You can dump a jar of olive juice into a glass, toss in a shot of gin and a splash of vermouth and water and it’s technically a martini.(Though I’d never touch it.) You’ve touched on a rare question. Does the olive insert count? The pimento in most martini olives isn’t a disqualifier, but that’s standard issue for Spanish olives. If you take out the pimento or augment it with cheese, is it still pure? I will consult with the Martini Masters on the MartiniList. I don’t know the answer to that one. But my gut reaction is no.

Jazz Shaw on December 6, 2015 at 7:54 PM

I don’t normally answer these, but you hit my sore spot as a martini snob. (TM) Martinis are only true martinis with four ingredients: Gin, Vermouth, Olive (which includes olive juice) and water (because a proper martinis is stirred and shaken over ice wherein the alcohol melts some of the ice and produces water.) That’s why the “Dirty Martini” qualifies as a true martini. You can dump a jar of olive juice into a glass, toss in a shot of gin and a splash of vermouth and water and it’s technically a martini.(Though I’d never touch it.) You’ve touched on a rare question. Does the olive insert count? The pimento in most martini olives isn’t a disqualifier, but that’s standard issue for Spanish olives. If you take out the pimento or augment it with cheese, is it still pure? I will consult with the Martini Masters on the MartiniList. I don’t know the answer to that one. But my gut reaction is no.

Jazz Shaw on December 6, 2015 at 7:54 PM

Never read such sincere angst over martinis.

No snarc, respect.

itsspideyman on December 6, 2015 at 8:06 PM

radical Muslim invaders commit an act of war on our free citizens
Obama’s response is to act to unarm our citizens all the while he
is pushing to bring in 250K more potential combatants.

esnap on December 7, 2015 at 4:48 AM

Tell me Obummer ain’t going scorched earth before he is out.

esnap on December 7, 2015 at 4:51 AM

People on the no fly list should not be able to buy guns?

Isn’t this a self fulfilling action? Put people on the no-fly list by means that are not fully disclosed, then say they can’t buy guns.

Who wants to bet that the number of people on the no-fly list will soon include all members of the NRA? And then all known gun owners.

Chitownmom on December 7, 2015 at 7:22 AM

One of the liberal things is to take control of the narrative and prevent any other discussion.

evie1949 on December 7, 2015 at 10:57 AM