ICYMI: Even the AP couldn’t validate any of Hillary’s gun control nonsense

posted at 6:41 pm on November 24, 2015 by Matt Vespa

The Democratic debate on November 14 has come and gone–and Hillary is just like any other Democrat when it comes to the issue of gun violence: she’s completely and utterly wrong. Just like her former boss, she rattled off talking points that were wholly inaccurate and rested on the border of being a flat-out lie. The Associated Press couldn’t justify any of her claims (via AP) [emphasis mine]:

CLINTON: “Since we last debated in Las Vegas, nearly 3,000 people have been killed by guns. Two hundred children have been killed. This is an emergency.” She said that in the same period there have been 21 mass shootings, “including one last weekend in Des Moines where three were murdered.”

THE FACTS: The claim appears to be unsupported on all counts.

The Gun Violence Archive has recorded 11,485 gun deaths in the U.S. so far this year, an average of just under 1,000 per month, making Clinton’s figure appear to be highly exaggerated. The archive had more detailed data for children and teenagers, showing 70 from those age groups killed by firearms since the Democratic candidates debated Oct. 13 – not 200 as she claimed.

Asked to explain the discrepancy, Clinton’s campaign pointed to 2013 statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 2010 figures from the Children’s Defense Fund. But that’s not the time period she said she was talking about.

The only mass shooting recently in Des Moines was Nov. 8, when four people were shot at a night club. One was killed, not three.

Overall, violent crime has gone down across the country. That is a fact. 3,000 people were killed in the span of a month; has a civil war broken out? If Democrats want to actually engage in an educated debate on this subject, the first thing they need to do before being invited to the adults table is getting the facts right. The crime data is pretty much all there on the Department of Justice’s website.


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But Trump saw people cheering!!!

The Notorious G.O.P on November 24, 2015 at 6:43 PM

The crime data is pretty much all there on the Department of Justice’s website.

Yeah, but both the DOJ and its data are RAAAAACIST!

Bishbop on November 24, 2015 at 6:44 PM

Dr. Ben Hillary.

Oil Can on November 24, 2015 at 6:47 PM

Nothing happened in Minneapolis last night. No Black Lives nuts assaulted anybody and got shot for it. No white Hispanics were arrested today. No Asians have apparently joined the Klan. Nope just a normal day Salem says.

M240H on November 24, 2015 at 6:47 PM

The shocking part of the story is that anyone would bother to find some truth in anything a Clinton said. Come next fall, people getting money they never earned will go to the voting booth and pull for the DEMOCRAT that’s available to keep that money coming in. I can’t believe I even read the story.

Pistonhead on November 24, 2015 at 6:47 PM

So when does the Fact Check come out on this?

Axeman on November 24, 2015 at 6:48 PM

If Democrats want to actually engage in an educated debate on this subject …

False premise, rendering whatever follows as meaningless.

The crime data is pretty much all there on the Department of Justice’s website.

Those numbers are phony — that site has obviously been hacked by Tea Gabber Terrorists …

ShainS on November 24, 2015 at 6:51 PM

Even the AP couldn’t validate any of Hillary’s gun control nonsense

No worries, the lights are burning late at the WaPo as Glen Kessler is “fact checking” the claims. By which I mean he’s crafting half truths and outright lies about what Blue said so that he can “fact check” her into a mere half Pinocchio for her statements.

Happy Nomad on November 24, 2015 at 6:55 PM

Breaking: People with guns bent on destruction kill people. Guns thrown on the ground and ran over with a pimpmobile refuse to ‘go off’. Blacks killing blacks continues to be a spectator sport in da The Hood. The BLM mob continues to blame white college administrators for the carnage.

vnvet on November 24, 2015 at 7:01 PM

One of the shooters from MPLS last night is Hispanic, prepare for another version of “White Hispanic” to hit the media.

Bishop on November 24, 2015 at 7:07 PM

No worries, the lights are burning late at the WaPo as Glen Kessler is “fact checking” the claims. By which I mean he’s crafting half truths and outright lies about what Blue said so that he can “fact check” her into a mere half Pinocchio for her statements.

Happy Nomad on November 24, 2015 at 6:55 PM

‘Sadly’, he had to abort his 4-Pinocchio column on Dr Carson’s claim that Thomas Jefferson was one of the drafters of the COTUS.

http://twitchy.com/2015/11/24/15-verified-twitter-accounts-that-owe-ben-carson-an-apology-over-constitution-flub/

Bishbop on November 24, 2015 at 7:08 PM

How DARE you question her Royal Thighness!

ghostwalker1 on November 24, 2015 at 7:48 PM

If Democrats want to actually engage in an educated debate on this subject, the first thing they need to do before being invited to the adult’s table is getting the facts right.

Which is why you can not have an intelligent conversation with them.

But there’s a thought; invite them to the table, with the warning that each time they spout bullshit, you’ll put a bullet in an arm, leg, shoulder, pelvis or hand joint. Won’t kill them, but will be extremely painful.

Then let’s see who shows up!

GarandFan on November 24, 2015 at 8:02 PM

“If Democrats want to actually engage in an educated debate on this subject, the first thing they need to do before being invited to the adults table is getting the facts right. The crime data is pretty much all there on the Department of Justice’s website.”

It is to laugh.

The reason Democrats never get the facts right is simply that the facts don’t support what they want to happen. The reason Democrats consistently lie about these things is that the truth doesn’t support what they want to happen. The reason Democrats constantly misdirect and mislead and divert conversations about all manner of things is that honest conversations don’t support what they want to happen.

Get it? They can’t get what they want if they tell the truth. I’m sad to say that it’s been that way most of my life, at least since LBJ.

Humphrey on November 24, 2015 at 9:57 PM

The crime data is pretty much all there on the Department of Justice’s website.

Perhaps she still doesn’t trust Government servers?

Mr Michael on November 25, 2015 at 1:07 AM

Conservatives had no problem fulfilling contractually obligated bonuses at bailed out investment firms. Passionately defended that these contracts allowed banks to attract the best and brightest.

libfreeordie on November 25, 2015 at 6:20 AM

Well, Huma did say Killary could be confused at times. Whether there were 12K deaths and 200 kids killed, if this was ‘resting on the border of a lie’, then that’s an improvement for her.

Kissmygrits on November 25, 2015 at 8:07 AM

Conservatives had no problem fulfilling contractually obligated bonuses at bailed out investment firms. Passionately defended that these contracts allowed banks to attract the best and brightest.

libfreeordie on November 25, 2015 at 6:20 AM

So… you love lamp?

The Schaef on November 25, 2015 at 9:55 AM

If Democrats want to actually engage in an educated debate on this subject, the first thing they need to do before being invited to the adults table is getting the facts right.

Why? no one calls them on it. She will repeat the same numbers again and again and no one will challenge her.

She can..and probably will…claim that she was almost killed in a mass shooting in (fill in whatever state/town she’s in at the time) and no one will say a word.

She’s going to be president because we’re going to let her, it’s that simple

E9RET on November 26, 2015 at 5:37 PM