Democratic governor demands halt to refugee settlement in US

posted at 4:41 pm on November 16, 2015 by Ed Morrissey

As the Daily Beast says, it’s not just Republicans. After more than a dozen GOP governors announced plans to block the relocation of Syrian refugees to their states, New Hampshire’s Democratic governor joined the group. Maggie Hassan’s spokesman told the New Hampshire Union-Leader that safety and security for Americans has to come first:

“Protecting the safety and security of our people is the first responsibility of government,” spokesman William Hinkle said. “And the Governor has always made clear that we must ensure robust refugee screening to protect American citizens, and believes that we must know more of the facts about those who carried out the Paris terrorist attacks and have strong assurances of safety from our intelligence officials before we admit refugees from Syria into the United States.”

Hinkle told The Daily Beast over email that Hassan believes the refugee settlement program should stop immediately.

“The Governor has always made clear that we must ensure robust refugee screening to protect American citizens,” he emailed, “and the Governor believes that the federal government should halt acceptance of refugees from Syria until intelligence and defense officials can assure that the process for vetting all refugees, including those from Syria, is as strong as possible to ensure the safety of the American people.”

That puts a little dent in Barack Obama’s accusations against critics of his refugee policy, does it not? Hassan is not just a Democratic governor, she’s the chief executive in a very important state in the 2016 elections. Tossing around charges of being un-American for opposing a rapid influx of tens of thousands of refugees, especially when that policy allowed at least one of the Paris perpetrators to get into Europe, might be a wee bit impolitic. At the very least, it will force Obama to de-escalate his rhetoric about Republicans and start escalating his fortitude when dealing with ISIS.

Speaking of which, six in ten Americans disagree with Barack Obama that the current strategy used to fight ISIS is successful and want more robust action against the terrorist quasi-state, according to a new Reuters poll. Sixty-three percent now worry that a Paris-style attack will soon play out near them, which makes Obama’s stay-the-course lecturing today more than a little discordant. However, the majority of Americans agree with Obama on one point — no ground troops into Syria:

A majority of Americans want the United States to intensify its assault on the Islamic State following the Paris attacks, but most remain opposed to sending troops to Iraq or Syria, where the militant group is based, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found. …

The poll found that 60 percent of Americans think the United States should be doing more to attack Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL. A small majority said they support using airstrikes in Iraq and Syria, but about 65 percent oppose sending special forces to the region, a move that has already been taken by Obama.

When asked about regular ground troops, the opposition grew stronger with 76 percent opposing deploying troops.

Support for deploying ground troops has vacillated over the last fifteen months. Polling in the immediate aftermath of the butchering of American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff showed majority support for boots on the ground, at least in some polls, but the lack of targeted attacks on Americans seems to have shifted that figure significantly in the opposite direction. As late as March of this year, a Quinnipiac poll showed 62/30 support for deploying troops to fight ISIS after the death of Kayla Mueller, but eight months later, public opinion has shifted back — at least if this Reuters poll is accurate.

There is also some cognitive dissonance on refugees, too. A majority of 52% believe taking in refugees from Syria makes nations less safe, and the Paris attacks make that pretty clear. On the other hand, the respondents are split 41/40 on the question of whether we should admit refugees anyway. That speaks to a certain segment of the populace willing to take some risks in order to help out people genuinely in distress, but it also may be one of the reasons that almost two-thirds of the respondents think they’ll have to deal with a Paris or Mumbai in their own back yard.

For the moment, the poll is a mixed bag for Obama, but mostly bad news. While he can take some comfort in opposition to US ground troops being deployed for combat in Syria, that fluctuates often enough that it won’t outlast the next attack. Otherwise, people are not buying Obama’s claims to have “contained” ISIS through his leadership, and they’re more concerned about terrorism than they have been in a while. They largely don’t agree that refusing to allow a massive influx of refugees from a terrorism-afflicted region into the country is somehow un-American, and aren’t exactly clamoring for that to happen.


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Without ground troops we cannot effectively destroy ISIS terrorists… An air campaign works against armies and infrastructures but not against terrorists…

mnjg on November 16, 2015 at 4:46 PM

That Dallas Howard sure aged!

Oil Can on November 16, 2015 at 4:46 PM

She must be up for re election!

LeftCoastRight on November 16, 2015 at 4:46 PM

We’re going to get them anyway.

docflash on November 16, 2015 at 4:49 PM

A small majority said they support using airstrikes in Iraq and Syria, but about 65 percent oppose sending special forces to the region, a move that has already been taken by Obama.

When asked about regular ground troops, the opposition grew stronger with 76 percent opposing deploying troops.

…how about posing the question like this…

…do you want to fight them here…on our streets, in our stadiums and theatres..??

…or do you want to fight them there…where they execute non-believers and da gheys and plan their attacks…???

…your feckless leaders have under-estimated the threat…if you knew you’d feel differently…

Pelosi Schmelosi on November 16, 2015 at 4:50 PM

Without ground troops we cannot effectively destroy ISIS terrorists… An air campaign works against armies and infrastructures but not against terrorists…

mnjg on November 16, 2015 at 4:46 PM

In the immortal words of Lieutenant Ellen Ripley: “I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”

Rix on November 16, 2015 at 4:51 PM

Without ground troops we cannot effectively destroy ISIS terrorists… An air campaign works against armies and infrastructures but not against terrorists…

mnjg on November 16, 2015 at 4:46 PM

Did ISIS attack us from Syria, or anywhere in the Middle East?

No. The west is being attacked from within.

Bombing and using ground troops doesn’t stop anything.

darwin on November 16, 2015 at 4:52 PM

At the very least, it will force Obama to de-escalate his rhetoric about Republicans and start escalating his fortitude when dealing with ISIS.

Suuuure it will.

AUINSC on November 16, 2015 at 4:53 PM

Last count I saw was 17 governors saying NO

CoffeeLover on November 16, 2015 at 4:54 PM

This equates to agreeing to engage in a fist fight as long as you don’t get hit. Obama is slowly but surely destroying the very essence of this once great Republic. Sad but true.

rplat on November 16, 2015 at 4:54 PM

Something else is going on. Obama’s in league with ISIS and Russia somehow, this is some sort of back room deal that has blown up in his face. We need to find out what happened.

fossten on November 16, 2015 at 4:55 PM

In the immortal words of Lieutenant Ellen Ripley: “I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”

Rix on November 16, 2015 at 4:51 PM

That makes Obama the Paul Reiser character.

Oil Can on November 16, 2015 at 4:56 PM

Without ground troops we cannot effectively destroy ISIS terrorists… An air campaign works against armies and infrastructures but not against terrorists…

mnjg on November 16, 2015 at 4:46 PM

A second Iraq would be a mistake. The problem with your type of intervention is that it never ends, but it also never really accomplishes anything. Our troops go there and sit around playing “Call of Duty” in their Crusader forts eating McDonalds, and then they go out on Patrol and get shot at, and then go back to the Crusader forts. We kill a few terrorists, but not enough to justify the cost. It’s an inefficient and ineffective strategy.

DFCtomm on November 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM

…re-posted from previous thread…a must-read for all the dopes who took this “poll”…

The jihadis’ master plan to break us

This is how Sheikh Abu-Bakr Naji, the late theoretician of the Sunni version of the Islamo-apocalyptic movement, put it: “No one should feel safe without submitting, and those who refuse to submit must pay a high price. The aim of our movement is to turn the world into a series of wildernesses in which only those under our rule enjoy security.”

According to the sheikh, in a world dominated by “Crusaders,” it is not possible to create a proper Islamic state in a single country. He cites as example the Taliban government in Afghanistan. Although a proper Islamic regime, it did not survive “infidel” attacks and opposition by Afghan elements. The Islamic movement must become global, fighting everywhere, all the time, and on all fronts. He wants neo-jihadis to create an archipelago of “wildernesses” in non-Muslim countries, especially in the West, turning them into parallel societies alongside existing ones. They do not set up formal governments that could be vulnerable to economic pressure or even military attack.

The Islamic State’s message is stark: Western civilization is doomed. Its last bastion, America, lacks the will for war. The infidel loves life and treats it as an endless feast. Jihadis have to ruin that feast and persuade the “infidel” to abandon this world in exchange for greater rewards in the next.

Pelosi Schmelosi on November 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM

I’m still up for going full Harry Truman.

katy the mean old lady on November 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM

“Protecting the safety and security of our people is the first responsibility of government,”

Lecturing the President on doing the right thing guarantees that he will do the wrong thing, just out of spite.

antipc on November 16, 2015 at 4:58 PM

Let’s just let the Russians deal with it.///

Tater Salad on November 16, 2015 at 4:59 PM

Most GOP lie prostrate.

BuckeyeSam on November 16, 2015 at 5:00 PM

She must be up for re election!
LeftCoastRight on November 16, 2015 at 4:46 PM

Actually she is running for the US Senate seat currently held by Kelly Ayotte, this was the first gauntlet being thrown.

D-fusit on November 16, 2015 at 5:00 PM

Without ground troops we cannot effectively destroy ISIS terrorists… An air campaign works against armies and infrastructures but not against terrorists…

mnjg on November 16, 2015 at 4:46 PM

No member of our military should be put in harm’s way to support the policies of a CinC who refuses to name the enemy.

No American blood and treasure until the words ISLAMIC TERRORISM com out of Bark’s mouth…

None.

Zip.

0.

Bruno Strozek on November 16, 2015 at 5:00 PM

The dictator will flood these states with Islamists anyway.

Valiant on November 16, 2015 at 5:06 PM

Bruno Strozek on November 16, 2015 at 5:00 PM

I believe Obama said many times that he won’t send ground troops to fight ISIS besides the military advisers he sent to Iraq… The main problem here is if this poll is to be believed the majority of Americans are against sending ground troops to fight ISIS terrorists… In this case we will not effectively destroy ISIS terrorists…

mnjg on November 16, 2015 at 5:07 PM

At the very least, it will force Obama to de-escalate his rhetoric about Republicans and start escalating his fortitude when dealing with ISIS.

You forgot the /sarc tag.

jnelchef on November 16, 2015 at 5:08 PM

Onward…

22044 on November 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM

Bombing and using ground troops doesn’t stop anything.

darwin on November 16, 2015 at 4:52 PM

You win. Most ridiculous and inaccurate statement ever. Why don’t you ask the Japs and Krauts what bombing and ground troops do? They win wars you moron and this is a war whether you leftist idiots admit it or not. You win wars and force people to surrender by killing lots of people on the other side. You are an idiot!

Doomsday on November 16, 2015 at 5:12 PM

In the words of tlaloc: “This is evil!”

Bishop on November 16, 2015 at 5:17 PM

Just get them all to gather in one city and then nuke it. Fly Reapers over every few weeks to rocket the remnants.

fossten on November 16, 2015 at 5:18 PM

ground troops always means nation building. You don’t need troops to kill people. You need bombs and missiles. But America only wants to kill the combatants, that means they only want to kill the guys waving the black flags, all the other radicals in their homes the US does not want to kill.

That would not have worked in WW II, and it is clearly not working now. Kill everyone and live with the criticism. Disinfect the place with heat.

HugoDrax on November 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM

mnjg on November 16, 2015 at 5:07 PM

No US boots in harm’s way under this guy, period.

If he doesn’t have stones (or the smarts) to Name the Enemy, screw him and his d!ckless policy.

If the military could go on strike, they should…

Bruno Strozek on November 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM

No, no, no, you must be mistaken.

News sources say that only Trump and Carson are this hateful…

mjbrooks3 on November 16, 2015 at 5:20 PM

When a Governor named Hassan takes this position there is change in the air.

Mason on November 16, 2015 at 5:20 PM

No, they’re idiots if they think that preventing the refugees from flying into TX means they won’t be able to get to TX. If the refugees fly into NY then getting to TX is no more complicated than buying a bus ticket.

This shouldn’t be that hard for you to understand, have you ever traveled from one state to another? Did they check your passport?

Tlaloc on November 16, 2015 at 4:47 PM

Dems are idiots, who knew?

Walter L. Newton on November 16, 2015 at 5:23 PM

Kasich better get on board with this.

ConDem on November 16, 2015 at 5:23 PM

When asked about regular ground troops, the opposition grew stronger with 76 percent opposing deploying troops.

Look for that to change when an attack occurs here. Of course you’ll still have the 33% with their heads up their asses, saying “If only we opened a dialogue with them and made them understand the error of their ways!”

You can’t fix stupid!

Of course it would help to have a LEADER. Guess that will have to wait until 2017.

GarandFan on November 16, 2015 at 5:23 PM

If troops were to go in, they must go in without any rules of engagement, if it moves and it’s not a friendly hammer the nail hard!

Kill em till they run out of their magical virgins!

woodhull on November 16, 2015 at 5:24 PM

Obama is a flea on a stage of world Leaders. His passive responses to horrific attack after horrific attack should burn in your psyche.

He is systematically destroying our Nation from within on College Campuses throughout the US. When he failed at his “Occupy” movement, he went on to the “BLM” and now, innocent college students in Universities and Local State Colleges are under fire, just for wanting to earn a degree.

I don’t know if it is too late at this point.

Key West Reader on November 16, 2015 at 5:27 PM

Minnesota democrat forced to end bid for state assembly seat after Tweeting defense of ISIS terrorists

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/15/minnesota-democrat-ends-bid-for-state-assembly-seat-after-sympathetic-islamic/?intcmp=hpbt3

Pork-Chop on November 16, 2015 at 5:33 PM

Lets nuke the polls. I feel like I am living in an episode of Max Headroom.

gbear on November 16, 2015 at 5:38 PM

Climate Change burned holes in the Muslims brains and what few they had leaked out onto the over heated cave floors of the islamic death cult and that drove the death cult into France. They arrived in France wanting to look up the skirts of the French women only to find hair all over the legs.

Now they just have to vent cause of the mistreatment.

Food stamps and Sec. 8 Housing will solve this for sure.

Commie Democrat troll illogical thinking.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 16, 2015 at 5:39 PM

Al Gore demands 1,000 for his home, calls it his duty.

News Flash on Politicio

APACHEWHOKNOWS on November 16, 2015 at 5:43 PM

However, the majority of Americans agree with Obama on one point — no ground troops into Syria:

You mean agrees with Obama no more than 500 ground troops.

Dusty on November 16, 2015 at 5:51 PM

Pork-Chop on November 16, 2015 at 5:33 PM

He does not think burning a pilot alive in a cage is ‘evil’.

“They are just wanting to make their community better”.

Unreal.

WhirledPeas on November 16, 2015 at 5:53 PM

Kasich better get on board with this.

ConDem on November 16, 2015 at 5:23 PM

He’s joined at least 16 other governors.

Ohio Governor John Kasich “doesn’t believe the U.S. should accept additional Syrian refugees because security and safety issues cannot be adequately addressed,” according to Jim Lynch, the governor’s communications director. “The governor is writing to the President to ask him to stop, and to ask him to stop resettling them in Ohio,” Lynch said in a statement. “We are also looking at what additional steps Ohio can take to stop resettlement of these refugees.”

de rigueur on November 16, 2015 at 6:15 PM

add South Carolina to the list of non-refugees..

dougmva on November 16, 2015 at 6:17 PM

Great idea–tent city on the south lawn of the WH

rjoco1 on November 16, 2015 at 6:34 PM

…New Hampshire’s Democratic governor…

It should be Democrat governor. There is no Democratic party.

dirtseller on November 16, 2015 at 6:40 PM

LeftCoastRight on November 16, 2015 at 4:46 PM

She’s going to run for senate AND NH is not like the rest of the northeast in other ways.

dogsoldier on November 16, 2015 at 6:41 PM

I’m waiting for a pissed-off Holland to criticize Obama for being faint-hearted (thats diplo-speak for ‘coward’) about a hard-line strategy.

BobMbx on November 16, 2015 at 6:55 PM

Good for her. Obama is a delusional narcissist.

grumpyank on November 16, 2015 at 6:58 PM

The roll call of states refusing to accept muslim refugees has grown to 23.

23

Oh, the only place the federal government can actually deposit refugees without state approval is……Washington, D.C.

BobMbx on November 16, 2015 at 7:02 PM

It is politically, logistically, and financially impossible to do mass deportation…

mnjg on September 1, 2015 at 2:11 PM

But it’s politically, logistically, and financially possible to take out ISIS, lol.

Without ground troops we cannot effectively destroy ISIS terrorists… An air campaign works against armies and infrastructures but not against terrorists…

mnjg

Typical neocon amnesty shill.

xblade on November 16, 2015 at 7:25 PM

When asked about regular ground troops, the opposition grew stronger with 76 percent opposing deploying troops.

This will not end without ground troops and an occupation.
So I guess we will “exhaust all other options” before we get around to “doing the right thing”. The longer we wait, the more casualties there will be in the end.

Count to 10 on November 16, 2015 at 7:35 PM

It is politically, logistically, and financially impossible to do mass deportation…

mnjg on September 1, 2015 at 2:11 PM

They’re coming from somewhere. It may not be deportation, but its en masse. And I don’t see any political, logisitical, or financial roadblocks that will keep Syrians from walking out of Syria.

So its very possible. Just watch the news. All we need to do is reverse the direction they’re walking.

BobMbx on November 16, 2015 at 7:52 PM

At the very least, it will force Obama to de-escalate his rhetoric about Republicans and start escalating his fortitude when dealing with ISIS.

Not a chance.

hachiban on November 16, 2015 at 8:35 PM

When asked about regular ground troops, the opposition grew stronger with 76 percent opposing deploying troops.

This will not end without ground troops and an occupation.
So I guess we will “exhaust all other options” before we get around to “doing the right thing”. The longer we wait, the more casualties there will be in the end.

Count to 10 on November 16, 2015 at 7:35 PM

I have to agree with you, Count. I don’t want to agree with you but that was the same conclusion I came to long before it was unpopular and words like “neocon” and “nation-building” were spewed as swear words. And even after the US dropped 2 atomic bombs, they followed up with ground troops and a very long occupation.

rhombus on November 17, 2015 at 7:49 AM

Alabama – Arizona – Arkansas – Georgia – Florida – Idaho – Indiana – Illinois – Iowa – Kansas – Louisiana – Maine – Massachusetts – Michigan – Mississippi – Nebraska – New Hampshire – New Jersey – North Carolina – Ohio – Oklahoma – South Carolina – Tennessee – Texas – Wisconsin Governors in wake of the Paris attacks:

“Je suis Trump!”

Skipity on November 17, 2015 at 9:22 AM

That speaks to a certain segment of the populace willing to take some risks in order to help out people genuinely in distress

It also speaks to a certain segment of the populace that is willfully ignorant of these “refugees”. They are NOT refugees fleeing persecution and war. They are predominantly military-age men, without families.

GWB on November 17, 2015 at 9:45 AM

I have to agree with you, Count. I don’t want to agree with you but that was the same conclusion I came to long before it was unpopular and words like “neocon” and “nation-building” were spewed as swear words. And even after the US dropped 2 atomic bombs, they followed up with ground troops and a very long occupation.

rhombus on November 17, 2015 at 7:49 AM

We have to nuke Raqqa. Period. That will send a message and wipe out their leaders. But we have no will to do that and a president who’s a muzzie. Not until we have a hundred such attacks in our own country and Trump is president. The West is in a war with Islam. If we still don’t believe that we are doomed.

If you don’t think so, where are all the Muslim demonstrations denouncing what happened here (or anywhere) in the U.S.? They should be out in force condemming what happened in Paris (and in Lebanon) this weekend. But the religious leaders in the mosques here in the U.S. won’t have that. They already know they are at war with us. They are just waiting to unleash the hordes onto us.

Thankfully we still have the 2nd Amendment and CCW. That’s the only thing standing in the way of more terror attacks. Stock up now, fellow Americans.

Deckard BR on November 17, 2015 at 9:56 AM

New Hampshire is a very small state with a largely rural population and culture that simply can’t accommodate many, if any, Syrian refugees.

royal flush on November 17, 2015 at 12:33 PM