CNN piles on: C’mon, did Hillary really try to join the Marines in 1975?

posted at 4:51 pm on November 12, 2015 by Allahpundit

To complement Ed’s post this morning, here’s further evidence that conservative complaints about media bias aren’t always futile. Ain’t no way, no how, no chance this old story would have been picked up for fresh scrutiny by WaPo or CNN if not for Republicans yelling at the media the last few weeks about holding Ben Carson to a higher biographical standard than Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. What I can’t figure out is why Hillary continues to bring this old nonsense up on the trail. She doesn’t need it for her feminist credentials; she certainly doesn’t need to prove how hawkish she is in a Democratic primary. The story’s been attacked sporadically by skeptics for 20 years. Why dare the media to come sniffing around it? Even weirder, when ABC News first checked up on her “I tried to join the Marines story” in 2008, they noted at the time that “it’s a story she never seems to have told again” after initially telling it as First Lady in 1994. (Bill later “remembered” it as Hillary having tried to join the Army, not the Marines.) Now she’s telling it again. She actually dropped the story for many years and has begun to recycle it anew despite the fact that reporters are (justifiably) skeptical and she can’t prove that it happened. That’s Clintonian brazenness for you.

Even as a parable about how public institutions used to keep women out, it doesn’t make sense. The Corps didn’t reject her (just) because she was a woman; according to Hillary, they told her that her eyesight was too poor and that she was too old to enlist. The whole thing reeks of something the Clintons concocted to deal with criticism of why Bill never ended up in combat during Vietnam. That’s okay because, see, Hillary tried to join. The effort was there in the family, even if it wasn’t specifically there by Bill, who, unlike her, actually would have been sent to fight. Again, though, this is all water under the bridge, especially with no veterans in the top tier of the Republican field this year. So why does she keep mentioning it?

Update: The RNC claims that this TNR piece from 2007 was the last time Hillary was asked about this incident. Oddly enough, she didn’t want to talk about it.

Then we were on the street. Clinton’s black sedan was waiting with an open door. Though she was starting to look impatient, I wedged in my second question: What should people make of the fact that she had briefly tried to enlist in the military? At this her eyes narrowed and she threw me a glare of mistrust. “I have very deep and quite broad relationships with people in the military,” she said. As for the meaning of the recruiting visit, “I can’t tell you,” she said with a dismissive wave. “You go look at that.” And at that, the door shut, and she was gone, a faint silhouette behind tinted windows.


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So why does she keep mentioning it?

She is famous for having memory “problems.” Dems should keep her out of the race for health reasons.

rbj on November 12, 2015 at 4:59 PM

Meh

weedisgood on November 12, 2015 at 5:00 PM

She’s probably got a marine that she’s paid off to back up her story. Don’t be surprised.

Kevin R on November 12, 2015 at 5:00 PM

dementia

gerrym51 on November 12, 2015 at 5:01 PM

Everybody knows you could only have 20/20 vision to join the military in 1975.

RickB on November 12, 2015 at 5:01 PM

I still don’t know how she’s going to get a security clearance as CiC.

butch on November 12, 2015 at 5:02 PM

Giver her a break, its hard to keep straight the differences between lies, falsehoods, fabrications, deceit, deceptions, dishonesty, misrepresentations, perjury, fraudulence, fiction, misrepresentations, and disinformation, especially when dodging bullets and FBI investigations.

Floriduh Jim on November 12, 2015 at 5:02 PM

What I can’t figure out is why Hillary continues to bring this old nonsense up on the trail

Because when you’re a pathological liar, it’s hard to remember all the times you’ve lied and exactly what the lies were.

Aizen on November 12, 2015 at 5:02 PM

This is not the HILLary to die on.

They loosely based the Goldie Hawn movie Private Benjamin on Hillary’s applying to the Marines.

portlandon on November 12, 2015 at 5:04 PM

If you don’t vote for the GOP nominee, this is what you will get. Have fun with that.

Walter L. Newton on November 12, 2015 at 5:05 PM

Who’s what % in the military:

Google more than doubles black and Hispanic representation and inflates Asian representation by a factor of almost ten. Even the obligatory stodgy old whites are shown to the sides and at a distance. Everyone wins! Well, except for American Indians, it must be conceded. Regrettable. Looks like Silicon Valley is indeed in need of more diversity training.

http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2015/11/middle-america-this-is-what-your-sons.html

davidk on November 12, 2015 at 5:05 PM

Meh

weedisgood on November 12, 2015 at 5:00 PM

+1

Words of wisdom from the half-baked.

Giver her a break, its hard to keep straight the differences between lies, falsehoods, fabrications, deceit, deceptions, dishonesty, misrepresentations, perjury, fraudulence, fiction, misrepresentations, and disinformation, especially when dodging bullets and FBI investigations.

Floriduh Jim on November 12, 2015 at 5:02 PM

Early candidate for thread winner.

Man, I’m going to enjoy this thread.

Aizen on November 12, 2015 at 5:05 PM

She served as Chris Kyle’s spotter in Iraq.

Sven on November 12, 2015 at 5:06 PM

No, no, no, Hillary! Don’t you remember? It was Westmoreland who begged you to attend West Point!

If you’re gonna dream, DREAM BIG!

Marcola on November 12, 2015 at 5:07 PM

I’d like to hear more about when she was the Futures Trader of the Year in 1978 and 1979. When does she get nominated to the Futures Trader Hall of Fame?

HumpBot Salvation on November 12, 2015 at 5:09 PM

Sounds plausible. I frequently apply to join organizations that I “loathe”.

Fenris on November 12, 2015 at 5:10 PM

White man’s burden:

In the mid 2000s, non-Hispanic whites made up about 61% of the 25-year-olds in the U.S. But through this 2009 report by Hannah Fischer of the Congressional Research Service, whites made up 74.7% of Iraq war fatalities, while minorities only accounted for 25.3%. So, whites gave the last full measure of devotion at an 89% higher per capita rate than nonwhites in Iraq.

The sacrifice gap was even larger in Afghanistan through 2009, with whites dying at a per capita rate 146% higher than nonwhites.

And, of course, the white man’s rate was even higher compared to the rest of the population of young adults of both sexes: roughly 500% higher in Iraq, and over 650% higher in Afghanistan.

Take up the White Man’s burden–
Send forth the best ye breed–
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives’ need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild–
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.

Take up the White Man’s burden–
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another’s profit,
And work another’s gain.

Take up the White Man’s burden–
The savage wars of peace–
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/03/iraq-war-white-mans-burden.html

davidk on November 12, 2015 at 5:10 PM

CNN piles on: C’mon, did Hillary really try to join the Marines in 1975?

Oh get real Allahpundit, where the hell do you think she learned how to dodge sniper fire??? Playing “Call Of Duty “Black Oops”???

oscarwilde on November 12, 2015 at 5:11 PM

No, no, no, Hillary! Don’t you remember? It was Westmoreland who begged you to attend West Point!

If you’re gonna dream, DREAM BIG!

Marcola on November 12, 2015 at 5:07 PM

I was thinking it was Patton.

davidk on November 12, 2015 at 5:12 PM

They loosely based the Goldie Hawn movie Private Benjamin on Hillary’s applying to the Marines.
portlandon on November 12, 2015 at 5:04 PM

“Based on a false story”… doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.

Marcola on November 12, 2015 at 5:12 PM

Yeah… that’s the ticket. I tried to join the M.A.R.I.N.E.S

Yeah, yeah, but they said “you’re too feminine”… Yeah, that’s the ticket. I was too feminine.

Floriduh Jim on November 12, 2015 at 5:13 PM

If you don’t vote for the GOP nominee, this is what you will get. Have fun with that.

Walter L. Newton on November 12, 2015 at 5:05 PM

Shut up Walter… for your own good.

oscarwilde on November 12, 2015 at 5:13 PM

Yeah… that’s the ticket. I tried to join the M.A.R.I.N.E.S

Yeah, yeah, but they said “you’re too feminine”… Yeah, that’s the ticket. I was too feminine.

Floriduh Jim on November 12, 2015 at 5:13 PM

Or they heard about her legendary carpet munching skills and said… Way to icky….

oscarwilde on November 12, 2015 at 5:14 PM

“Call Of Duty “Black Oops”???
oscarwilde on November 12, 2015 at 5:11 PM

THAT made me laugh. And reminded me of Obama “shooting” a skeet gun.

Marcola on November 12, 2015 at 5:15 PM

Is CNN deliberately diverting attention from her most recent, glaring lie?

Lolo on November 12, 2015 at 5:15 PM

wow the media is vetting a democrat for once. weird.

Sachiko on November 12, 2015 at 5:17 PM

Is CNN deliberately diverting attention from her most recent, glaring lie?

Lolo on November 12, 2015 at 5:15 PM

This is their..”see, we vetted Hillary story.”

HumpBot Salvation on November 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM

What about her claim she wrote to NASA as a teenager about becoming an astronaut and was told they don’t accept women?

cat_owner on November 12, 2015 at 5:19 PM

Shut up Walter… for your own good.

oscarwilde on November 12, 2015 at 5:13 PM

That includes Trump, who I would vote for if he was the nominee. Play me a chord.

Walter L. Newton on November 12, 2015 at 5:20 PM

Oh get real Allahpundit, where the hell do you think she learned how to dodge sniper fire??? Playing “Call Of Duty “Black Oops”???

oscarwilde on November 12, 2015 at 5:11 PM

Laura Croft Tomb Raider.

RickB on November 12, 2015 at 5:20 PM

Congratulations Florent Groberg, you have more honor in your little pinky than Clinton or Obama could dream of.

Fenris on November 12, 2015 at 5:21 PM

No effing way that murderous whore tried to join an institution she hates so much she wants it dismantled even more than obama does to allow our enemies to walk right in and set up the kind of totalitarian gov’t she REALLY wants to see.

Andy__B on November 12, 2015 at 5:27 PM

This is a gaffe so perfectly timed I can’t help but think it was intentional

TylerMichaels on November 12, 2015 at 5:35 PM

Mrs. Clinton has experience in dodging sniper fire.

Aizen on November 12, 2015 at 5:36 PM

This idiot claims that they vetted Obama.

WTF

Ca97 on November 12, 2015 at 5:42 PM

Sniper fire? Heck the woman hasn’t even seen a penis go off in decades.

phadras on November 12, 2015 at 5:42 PM

I am glad weed lost in Ohio. It is clear it kills brain cells and lowers iqs.

CWforFreedom on November 12, 2015 at 5:42 PM

It takes a willing suspension of disbelief to disbelieve her heartfelt story willingly suspended for so many years without so much as a fabrication willingly concocted out of false memories about reality.

SpongePuppy on November 12, 2015 at 5:48 PM

“Not funny,” says hillary:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n083eytJe5g

davidk on November 12, 2015 at 5:48 PM

Hillary Clinton, Arms Dealer
The dirty deals that put illegal arms shipments into the hands of Libyan jihadists.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260718/hillary-clinton-arms-dealer-arnold-ahlert

davidk on November 12, 2015 at 5:52 PM

No, no, no, Hillary! Don’t you remember? It was Westmoreland who begged you to attend West Point!

If you’re gonna dream, DREAM BIG!

Marcola on November 12, 2015 at 5:07 PM

I was thinking it was Patton.

davidk on November 12, 2015 at 5:12 PM

Dead wrong, both of you.

The scholarship was offered by Ho Chi Mihn.

And it was not West Point, but Pathet Lao Academy in Laos that begged her to enroll.

Eventually she did enroll, but in their international correspondence course (a diploma mill). She graduated summa cum laude.

C’mon, don’t you guys remember reading all that in the latest in that long line of her widely acclaimed and devastatingly popular autobiographies?

FlameWarrior on November 12, 2015 at 6:03 PM

These type of stories always intrigue me, so I went to the best source available: I “wiki”-ed.

I noticed that Bill and Hillary were married in 1975. Perhaps, THAT is the source of her confusion?

socalcon on November 12, 2015 at 6:07 PM

Sniper fire? Heck the woman hasn’t even seen a penis go off in decades.

phadras on November 12, 2015 at 5:42 PM

I noticed this comment was initially held back.

Allahpundit, why in God’s name (oh, right … atheist) the hell would you post that?

Aizen on November 12, 2015 at 6:09 PM

I noticed that Bill and Hillary were married in 1975. Perhaps, THAT is the source of her confusion?

socalcon on November 12, 2015 at 6:07 PM

Ms. Rodham wanted to leave Bill by joining the Marines.

Aizen on November 12, 2015 at 6:12 PM

Gotta love the way Zeleny breezes past the Obama-Wright disclosure as though it was the mainstream media and not conservative outlets which pressed the issue. Those Leftists certainly know how to dodge, weave,and spin.

ricoliv on November 12, 2015 at 6:14 PM

Of course CNN wants to talk about this. It’s a nothingburger they can use to take up airtime away from her more recent, more probably fatal scandal about her emails.

Jeff Weimer on November 12, 2015 at 6:34 PM

Hillary! already has the King Barack mindset:

SO I HAVE SAID. SO SHALL IT BE WRITTEN! SO SHALL IT BE DONE!

GarandFan on November 12, 2015 at 6:44 PM

They wanted to name it GI Hillary, but Hillary was to vain and asked for them to use the name Jane…that is the kind of American she is…

right2bright on November 12, 2015 at 7:05 PM

If you don’t vote for the GOP nominee, this is what you will get. Have fun with that.

Walter L. Newton on November

If you squishy moderates makes sure a RINO is at the top of the ticket, it will be your fault that they will be no different than Hillary for 8 years. At least we conservatives has courage of our convictions.

Conservative4Ever on November 12, 2015 at 7:18 PM

If you don’t vote for the GOP nominee, this is what you will get. Have fun with that.

Walter L. Newton on November 12, 2015 at 5:05 PM

This.

BacaDog on November 12, 2015 at 7:25 PM

If you don’t vote for the GOP nominee, this is what you will get. Have fun with that.
 
Walter L. Newton on November 12, 2015 at 5:05 PM

 
And if you vote for the GOP nominee, that is what you will get. Have fun with that.

rogerb on November 12, 2015 at 7:34 PM

“Ms. Clinton, is it possible you will you be the first presidential candidate who ever invoked 5th Amendment protection during an active campaign?”

Meremortal on November 12, 2015 at 7:48 PM

Lying sack.

Mason on November 12, 2015 at 7:50 PM

Because when you’re a pathological liar, it’s hard to remember all the times you’ve lied and exactly what the lies were.

Aizen on November 12, 2015 at 5:02 PM

Oh, like right2bright…okay that makes sense now.

fossten on November 12, 2015 at 7:55 PM

In 1981, I enlisted in the USN and, that was not the top age (36 was). The Marines and AF highly recruited me. Unless she really blew the test – she would have been completely acceptable at age 26. Friends of hers says it happened but, do they know because they went with her or because she told them so? I’d find the recruiter.

evie1949 on November 12, 2015 at 9:00 PM

Lying liars. Killary leads in that category.

tbear44 on November 12, 2015 at 10:34 PM

She tried to join the FBI too, but the lie detector melted.

virgo on November 12, 2015 at 11:28 PM

She be lyin’. She was part of a team that had just successfully taken out a sitting Republican president. We had just exited Viet Nam and were licking our collective wounds. No way no how was she going to give up her job as a lawyer and attempt to now join what then was the most conservative of the military branches. The call to arms was something she has ALWAYS loathed.

BillH on November 13, 2015 at 1:11 AM

Everybody knows you could only have 20/20 vision to join the military in 1975.

RickB on November 12, 2015 at 5:01 PM

Really? I was on active duty in 1975 and know nothing of the sort.

I know incoming pilot candidates had to have 20/20 uncorrected then, but I do believe that navigator candidates could have worse as long as lenses corrected them to 20/20.

Vision requirements for other specialties and other services usually were not as strict.

20/20 in one eye, 20/100 in the other eye sticks in my mind for infantry but I am prepared to be schooled by any veteran groundpounders out there.

Younggod on November 13, 2015 at 8:37 AM

And Hillary could never have been inducted. Her ankles exceeded the maximum.

Younggod on November 13, 2015 at 8:40 AM

She’s a grifter. Grifters tell all kinds of stories. It”s a part of their grifterness.

claudius on November 13, 2015 at 9:20 AM

“I have very deep and quite broad relationships with people in the military,”

Ugh. I need a long shower and lots of soap after reading that statement.

s1im on November 13, 2015 at 11:48 AM

Hillary is on record for hating the military in those younger years of hers. This tale could be the grandest lie of hers we have ever heard (I feel Bill’s pain!)

JungleCogs on November 13, 2015 at 12:10 PM