The buck stops there: WH says defense secretary ordered raid on ISIS in Iraq in which one U.S. soldier was killed

posted at 8:41 pm on October 22, 2015 by Allahpundit

Even by Obama’s standards, this is pitiful.

Seventy Iraqi prisoners were freed in the joint U.S./Iraqi/Kurdish operation at an ISIS compound in northern Iraq, which reportedly came in the nick of time before the prisoners were executed. Sounds like a glorious success, and The One’s not known for letting others take credit for “his” successes. So why is this operation being laid in Ash Carter’s lap? Presumably because, in the gunfight at the compound, one American soldier was killed — the first killed in action in Iraq since Obama brought the troops home in 2011.

“A mass atrocity was averted,” a senior U.S. defense source added. According to the Pentagon, rescuers “deliberately planned” the operation, and moved in when it was apparent that ISIS hostage takers were planning to kill the hostages.

When asked if the mission violated President Obama’s vow not to put boots on the ground in Iraq, Cook said U.S. forces can “protect against the loss of innocent life” in their support role. He said Defense Secretary Ash Carter approved the mission, and the White House was aware.

If there was any promise-breaking here, it’s on ol’ Ash Carter, not President “Found Out About It On The News.” Now, let’s think: What are the odds, realistically, that the White House would have allowed the secretary of defense to make the call on a mission like this? U.S. officials told Fox News that “dozens” of American soldiers were involved; if things had gone sideways at the compound, with the Americans massacred and their bodies paraded on video for ISIS death-porn consumers, it would have been one of the worst counterterror fiascos of Obama’s presidency. It would have been a propaganda coup not just for the jihadis but for Russia, which would have used it to highlight by contrast how effective its own operations are in Syria. And it would have scrambled the historic narrative in light of the Bin Laden raid that, whatever his other faults, Obama’s track record on surgical strikes with special forces to take out terrorists is solid. There’s no earthly way that Precious would have let Ash Carter gamble all of that on a risky operation in Iraq, of all places. Obama obviously made the call himself. So why lay it off on Carter? Occam’s Razor suggests that if Obama’s going to briefly revisit “Bush’s war,” he’d much prefer that it be framed as “Ash Carter’s war” instead of his.

But that raises another question: What was the real purpose of this raid? As noble as the idea is of trying to avert an atrocity, we’re awfully late in the game of ISIS atrocities for the U.S. to suddenly be risking American troops to prevent them. Again, a raid like this had Mogadishu potential for the White House. They wouldn’t risk it, I think, simply to try to save the lives of 70 rank-and-file Iraqi soldiers and prisoners. Ace quotes a Guardian report claiming that the real target of the raid was Nema Arbid Nayef al-Jabouri, a senior leader in ISIS. That makes more sense, although there’s not a lot online about al-Jabouri that would explain why they valued him highly enough to put boots on the ground. Another possibility is that it wasn’t just Iraqi prisoners being held by ISIS but Americans. Maybe that detail’s being held back for the moment — although in that case, assuming Americans were safely rescued, you would think Obama would be really eager to take credit for the operation, notwithstanding the tragic loss of an American soldier in the firefight. There’s more to this story than we’re being told. Keep your eye on it this weekend.


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As much as I don’t like Obama’s policies, I dislike him as a person far more.

forest on October 22, 2015 at 8:44 PM

It’s Carter’s ball until all the results are in, if the results are great then Dog Eater walks up and takes credit for the buzzer-beating hoop.

Bishop on October 22, 2015 at 8:45 PM

Why does Obama want to kill brown people?

faraway on October 22, 2015 at 8:46 PM

Your know, I was thinking, “Finally. He’s showing some ba!!s.”

But nope. No way. What a disgusting weasel.

Rod on October 22, 2015 at 8:46 PM

Nads of steel!

I smell a Peace Prize!

WryTrvllr on October 22, 2015 at 8:47 PM

Guess since they didn’t get the ISIS big, and ISIS wouldn’t trade for any of the detainees at Gitmo, it’s someone else’s gig…. particularly since there were casualties.

Does this mean that Obama is miffed that Carter didn’t work through Kerry or ValJar to get the approval of Putin or the Ayatollah first?

Athos on October 22, 2015 at 8:47 PM

There’s more to this story than we’re being told. Keep your eye on it this weekend.

I’m sure the administration from hell will be forthcoming as usual.

arnold ziffel on October 22, 2015 at 8:47 PM

He’s the worst CinC, the worst president in US history. Bar none.

hawkdriver on October 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM

There’s nothing quite like total commitment to annihilating the enemy as soon as possible when sending our military fodder into harm’s way …

ShainS on October 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM

It’s a war. People die in wars. Soldiers as well as civilians. If you want to, or have to fight a war for any reason at any time, people are going to die.

70 were saved, 1 died, and it wasn’t one that was taken up in a draft. That soldier knew the price that might have to be paid entering the military.

Now, go kill ALL of the isis pukes in retaliation.

Andy__B on October 22, 2015 at 8:49 PM

So why is this operation being laid in Ash Carter’s lap?

…because as usual…JugEars is in charge!

JugEarsButtHurt on October 22, 2015 at 8:50 PM

He’s the worst CinC, the worst president in US history. Bar none.

hawkdriver on October 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM

By a previously unimaginable margin …

ShainS on October 22, 2015 at 8:50 PM

It’s a war. People die in wars.

Andy__B on October 22, 2015 at 8:49 PM

With all due respect, it’s not a war when one side is simply going through the motions and values the enemy more than its own soldiers.

ShainS on October 22, 2015 at 8:52 PM

By a previously unimaginable margin …

ShainS on October 22, 2015 at 8:50 PM

Yep, it’s not even close.

hawkdriver on October 22, 2015 at 8:53 PM

Keep your eye on it this weekend.

Likely a Friday night dump.

Rod on October 22, 2015 at 8:53 PM

Why does this guy have any political allies left?

cozmo on October 22, 2015 at 8:54 PM

Likely a Friday night dump.

Rod on October 22, 2015 at 8:53 PM

It’s been a 7 year dump.

faraway on October 22, 2015 at 8:54 PM

Obama did kill OBL with his own hands.

CWforFreedom on October 22, 2015 at 8:55 PM

Looks like we’ll be cleaning up the damage caused by that damn video for many years to come.

Frank Lib on October 22, 2015 at 8:56 PM

My God, the man has no spine, no shame, no character, no responsibility.

He’s an embarrassment and a shame upon those who voted the fool into office. Thankfully, that’s NOT ME. Own it out there, LiV. You bought it, you own it.

xNavigator on October 22, 2015 at 8:56 PM

I was listening to Dennis Prager today on the radio, and he made a salient point — something along the lines of: the problem with the pervasive moral confusion that’s now infected the West is that our enemies (primarily Islamo-Fascists) have absolutely no confusion as to what their ends are.

ShainS on October 22, 2015 at 8:56 PM

Carter..Mr President we have to act quickly…ISIS is getting to kill hostages
Obama..ok whatever you think is best..Let me know how things go…i have to squeeze 18 in today before i tell the republicans to stuff their defense bill

jaywemm on October 22, 2015 at 8:57 PM

I guess Ash Carter “acted stupidly.”

bw222 on October 22, 2015 at 9:02 PM

We need an AK-47 summit

faraway on October 22, 2015 at 9:03 PM

Evil

cmsinaz on October 22, 2015 at 9:07 PM

No body does anything without potus ok

C’mon

cmsinaz on October 22, 2015 at 9:08 PM

Beat me to it Andy_B.

It’s a 1400 year war and it isn’t going to end anytime soon.

rbj on October 22, 2015 at 9:09 PM

Can’t wait to see the after action report (you know it will get leaked) and probably interviews with a few of our ‘boots’. Even with the rescue I suspect something went very wrong and Barry’s folks are busy burning documents.

Limerick on October 22, 2015 at 9:12 PM

So obamas excuse falls to ashes????

Indiana Jim on October 22, 2015 at 9:14 PM

YouTube downloader to be arrested in 3.. 2.. 1..

faraway on October 22, 2015 at 9:15 PM

*breaking news* obama responsible for killing millions of trees. Hes been revealed to be an Ash borer……

Indiana Jim on October 22, 2015 at 9:17 PM

Obama might as well just have spit on the dead soldiers family…..absolute disgrace.

Indiana Jim on October 22, 2015 at 9:19 PM

He said Defense Secretary Ash Carter approved the mission, and the White House was aware.

So if the White House was “aware”, then Obama approved with his silence. WTF is it with these semantics?

ReaganWasRight on October 22, 2015 at 9:19 PM

Looks like we’ll be cleaning up the damage caused by that damn video for many years to come.

Frank Lib on October 22, 2015 at 8:56 PM

Priceless.

AesopFan on October 22, 2015 at 9:20 PM

Looks like we’ll be cleaning up the damage caused by that damn video for many years to come.

Frank Lib on October 22, 2015 at 8:56 PM

Ha!

Don’t worry, folks. Hillary said she’d bring the perpetrators to justice.

Aizen on October 22, 2015 at 9:21 PM

With all due respect, it’s not a war when one side is simply going through the motions and values the enemy more than its own soldiers.

ShainS on October 22, 2015 at 8:52 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised or upset if every officer and enlisted resigned today.

docflash on October 22, 2015 at 9:21 PM

I’m guessing a dozen or so civvies got blown to bits by Hellfire’s inscribed with Nobel Committee logo during the assault.

Bishop on October 22, 2015 at 9:23 PM

King Barack only takes credit for successes that have zero cost.

HE killed BinLaden.

The US MILITARY attacked a hospital.

See the “nuance”? Libs are all about the “nuance”.

GarandFan on October 22, 2015 at 9:26 PM

X numbered rescued.

? number not, or worse.

Limerick on October 22, 2015 at 9:31 PM

How can anyone in the US arm forces but not hate this man????? Just today he turned the Defense Bill into a political deal. He vetoed it !!!!!!! There is not anyone that I hate more than this treasonous big eared liar, all about me , than this low life rat eared bastard. I think I prefer Putin over this bastard. I just can’t even breath right knowing what he is doing to this country.

garydt on October 22, 2015 at 9:40 PM

So if the US soldier WASN’T killed, then Carter would have been given all the credit??? LOL!!

Indiana Jim on October 22, 2015 at 9:47 PM

You know, if you were a bad guy and you saw a Clinton testifying about a personal scandal, you might want to find a bunker for the duration.

Odds are the US military will be ordered to ginn up a better headline for the nightly news.

BobMbx on October 22, 2015 at 9:47 PM

Looks like we’ll be cleaning up the damage caused by that damn video for many years to come.

Walter on October 22, 2015 at 8:56 PM

You’re so right, you old poop!

Del Dolemonte on October 22, 2015 at 9:47 PM

President Fredo Stompypants…look at the bright side,we haven’t had a President this bad in about 240 years or so..

falsecast on October 22, 2015 at 9:53 PM

He is worse than King George the third, flasecast. I would rather have that king than this SOB.

garydt on October 22, 2015 at 10:04 PM

Obama is sending a message to Putin. The US has the Kurds on our side, we fight for and with them. The US can counter any Russia/Assad alliance.

Now we see what Puty does.

captnjoe on October 22, 2015 at 10:06 PM

Maybe these commando raids by US forces in ISIS-land are more routine than we all know (because they don’t call CNN first before raiding), and this one just happened to make the news.

AlexB on October 22, 2015 at 10:06 PM

obama makes me miss carter.

losarkos on October 22, 2015 at 10:08 PM

This miserable asshat POTUS is a weapons grade grinning pr*ck. It will take months and a lot of bleach to get the stench of evil out of the West Wing when (and if) this lazy shiftless coward and his parasite family is pried out of the White House…. plan on a lot of WH silverware missing after they leave.

HatfieldMcCoy on October 22, 2015 at 10:09 PM

losarkos. miss linda carter?? :-D

Indiana Jim on October 22, 2015 at 10:15 PM

The buck almost reached his desk before veering right and landing on the Secretary of Defence’s.

unclesmrgol on October 22, 2015 at 10:25 PM

Check me if I’m wrong Sandy, but SMU’s like CAG and DEVGRU don’t make moves without the President being in the loop and there is no way this was executed without one of those units being involved.

Prayers to the family of that JSOC operator.

Mr. Joshua on October 22, 2015 at 10:30 PM

Can’t wait to see the after action report (you know it will get leaked) and probably interviews with a few of our ‘boots’. Even with the rescue I suspect something went very wrong and Barry’s folks are busy burning documents.

Limerick on October 22, 2015 at 9:12 PM

The American boots on the ground were from Delta Force (and the choppers were from 160th –Night Stalkers) so you’ll never see an interview from any of them and the AAR will stay in their files.

Solaratov on October 22, 2015 at 10:37 PM

Diversionary tact to take attention off of Bengazi hearings.

Deadeye on October 22, 2015 at 11:02 PM

Andy__B: “It’s a war. People die in wars.”

I won’t ask whether you have ever served in the US military. But that is not even the point here. The point is that Obama displayed, as he has so consistently throughout the debacle of his Presdency, the most disgraceful possible trait for someone who is supposed to be a “leader” – the refusal to take responsibility for actions undertaken under his authority and pointing the finger at subordinates instead because it is politically convenient.

forest: “As much as I don’t like Obama’s policies, I dislike him as a person far more.”

This x1000

FOAF on October 22, 2015 at 11:48 PM

just in passing–there are just some actions that King Putt takes occasionally that are so indefensible that even our troll affliction avoids. I love the smell of troll free smell in the morning…….

HatfieldMcCoy on October 23, 2015 at 12:52 AM

The soldier is a hero, the military gets credit for saving hostages..

Obama? nothing… he can go suck a hind tit…

snoozinglion on October 23, 2015 at 3:23 AM

Obama must have heard there were Muslim Brotherhood community organizers in the area…

albill on October 23, 2015 at 7:18 AM

Sorry, what exactly are we blaming Obama for in this thread? Not taking credit? I’m just not feeling the burn.

Immolate on October 23, 2015 at 8:47 AM

Yep, it’s now official. The One actually leads with his behind.

vnvet on October 23, 2015 at 9:45 AM

Put this together with the airdrop that “accidentally” landed in the Kurds hands and I’m starting to suspect there is a faction that has decided to support the Kurds and is dragging the President down that road.

Sackett on October 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM

Remember when the Obama White House delegated the rescue of Captain Phillips from pirates to subordinates, then took all the credit for themselves when the raid was successful? Good times.

DubiousD on October 23, 2015 at 2:18 PM

Immolate. Lol!! Does “the buck stops with me” not mean anything to you??

Indiana Jim on October 23, 2015 at 4:12 PM

Setting aside politics for a second. This Delta Force Soldier who died had an INCREDIBLE record of service -http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/master-sergeant-joshua-wheeler-idd-commando-killed-isis-hostage-rescue-n449876

Prayers to his family.

AYNBLAND on October 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM