Prison pork prohibition pulled promptly

posted at 1:01 pm on October 17, 2015 by Jazz Shaw

In a pig’s eye.

Last week we told you about the menu change at federal prisons where pork products disappeared from the table back on October 1st. What was up with that? At the time I wondered whether it had to do with pressure from religious groups who don’t eat pork or perhaps some sort of political shenanigans between the administration and the pork industry. We don’t have all of those answers yet, but the resulting uproar spurred somebody to action and the ban on pork in prison has apparently been ended… at least in part. (Washington Post)

After a week of controversy surrounding its abrupt removal of pork dishes from the national menu for federal inmates, the government did an about-face Thursday and put pork roast back on the prison bill of fare.

The Bureau of Prisons disclosed the decision to The Post hours after a Republican Senate leader expressed dismay at what he implied was a wasteful survey of inmates’ food preferences and a lack of transparency in the decision.

“The pork industry is responsible for 547,800 jobs, which creates $22.3 billion in personal incomes and contributes $39 billion to the gross domestic product,” Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) wrote in a letter Thursday to Bureau of Prisons Director Charles E. Samuels, Jr.

It’s probably not going to shock anyone to find out that the pork industry lobby (yes, there is such a thing) was fighting this very hard and that Chuck Grassley was involved in getting it changed. Iowa has a lot of pig farms and the many people involved in that industry vote. It’s equally unsurprising that the chicken and beef lobby representatives were in there swinging in support of the ban. Some days you really don’t want to pick up the newspaper.

But is the ban over entirely? As Fox News pointed out, all the reporting so far indicates that “pork roast” is back on the menu in prison. It doesn’t say anything about bacon, sausage, pork chops or all the rest of those delightful pig products. (Did I already say bacon? Well, it bears repeating.) Were they just using the phrase pork roast generically or is bacon still off the menu? From the phrasing of the responses at the prison bureau it’s only pork roast.

Clear answers don’t seem to be forthcoming yet and beyond that, officials aren’t even saying why they changed their mind.

Edmond Ross, a spokesman for the prison bureau, could not explain what prompted the government’s quick turnaround. “I’m not cleared to say anything and I don’t have answers for you,” he said late Thursday. An explanation from senior prison officials could come Friday, he said.

Ross had explained last week that based on annual surveys of inmates’ food preferences, pork lost its appeal in the prison system years ago. In the last two years, the menu had dropped from bacon, pork chops and sausages to just one dish: Pork roast, the entree now back on federal prison dining halls.

The explanation that pork was “just not popular” is one of the least believable things ever to come out of the mouths of politicians or lawyers (which is really saying something) so there must be some other answer hiding in the weeds. Now that we know that three different farm lobby groups were weighing in on the fight, things begin to make a bit more sense. The next question to answer is who was responsible for making the final decision and what their ties are to the various interest groups pumping cash into Washington.

Can I be the first one to coin the term PorkGate?


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I think Obama is constantly probing for weak spots, and finding many. The country is pampered and weak.

faraway on October 17, 2015 at 1:03 PM

Oink, oink

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 1:04 PM

Sow what?

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on October 17, 2015 at 1:04 PM

It’s as if Obama is a Jew. Hint: No, he isn’t.

Rix on October 17, 2015 at 1:04 PM

Bacon was not popular… and I’m little Bo Peep.

The Rogue Tomato on October 17, 2015 at 1:05 PM

Prison pork prohibition pulled promptly

A result of ham-to-ham combat?

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on October 17, 2015 at 1:07 PM

What a stupid idea to ban pork in the first place. Pork is everywhere in the US diet. A dozen different types and a million ways to fix it. It’s even hard to believe ham, pork roast, and bacon all come from the same place. It’s got to be a Muslim thing. That’s the only thing that makes sense.

LashRambo on October 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM

Since when are prisoners asked what foods they favor?

It’s not dissimilar to the ‘refugees’ in Europe biatching about their “food for pigs”, and filing lawsuits because their internet service is too slow and their welfare checks take too long to arrive.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM

First they came for the bacon, and I did not speak…

faraway on October 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM

Not to mention pork ribs for goodness sake.

LashRambo on October 17, 2015 at 1:10 PM

Pork Lives Matter!

Limerick on October 17, 2015 at 1:11 PM

Since when are prisoners asked what foods they favor?

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM

…when they’re about to be executed…

Pelosi Schmelosi on October 17, 2015 at 1:11 PM

Bacon is especially harem because it is tempting, like a woman.

gh on October 17, 2015 at 1:12 PM

haram f*ck

gh on October 17, 2015 at 1:12 PM

Bacon was not popular… and I’m little Bo Peep.

The Rogue Tomato on October 17, 2015 at 1:05 PM

Exactly.

Jazz, you may be on to something. Pursue this like a reporter. What other connection can there be but to rules of Halal. Find out and you’ll get a pulledporkitzer prize. But seriously – I’m curios.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/fec-bush-214869#ixzz3oq1wRZWK

BoxHead1 on October 17, 2015 at 1:13 PM

Put Michelle in charge of the prison lunch program. I hear she has relevant work experience.

Fenris on October 17, 2015 at 1:14 PM

link was for another thread.

BoxHead1 on October 17, 2015 at 1:14 PM

The explanation that pork was “just not popular” is one of the least believable things ever to come out of the mouths of politicians or lawyers

…have you been following the sh*t emanating from the Skank’s pie-hole..???

Pelosi Schmelosi on October 17, 2015 at 1:14 PM

Jihadis will pull their pork for bacon.

gh on October 17, 2015 at 1:14 PM

Put Michelle in charge of the prison lunch program. I hear she has relevant work experience.

Fenris on October 17, 2015 at 1:14 PM

…sure to increase the number of prison riots and attempted escapes…

Pelosi Schmelosi on October 17, 2015 at 1:16 PM

“Pork”,
just a minor skimersh in the Climate Change War Obama is leading.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 17, 2015 at 1:18 PM

Edmond Ross, a spokesman for the prison bureau, could not explain what prompted the government’s quick turnaround. “I’m not cleared to say anything and I don’t have answers for you,” he said late Thursday. An explanation from senior prison officials could come Friday, he said.

That’s just . . .

He’s not cleared to say anything, you understand.

Axe on October 17, 2015 at 1:22 PM

….the the the That’s All Folks…

Pelosi Schmelosi on October 17, 2015 at 1:24 PM

That’s just . . .

He’s not cleared to say anything, you understand.

Axe on October 17, 2015 at 1:22 PM

Yup. This is the mentality of people who give guns to Ranger Smith to keep Yogi from stealing picinic baskets. Everything is deadly serious, the government always knows best, bureaucratic apparatchiks are smarter, faster and better in every way than you. You do not need to know.

Fenris on October 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM

That’s all, folks.

Bertram Cabot Jr. on October 17, 2015 at 1:29 PM

Last week we told you about the menu change at federal prisons where pork products disappeared from the table back on October 1st. What was up with that?

…a lot of Muslim and their converts…in the prison system?

JugEarsButtHurt on October 17, 2015 at 1:29 PM

Pull it back. More for us nonprisoners!

22044 on October 17, 2015 at 1:33 PM

The ban and the turn around were pretty “prompt”. Graft enough to go around.

Cindy Munford on October 17, 2015 at 1:35 PM

Mr. Ham, one question: did you choose that picture?

I really don’t want to believe that you, as a gender-fluid, would knowingly choose to mock Hillary’s physical appearance and that hotair has some pimply faced graphics intern who thinks its hilarious to post the worst pictures of dem candidates…

nonpartisan on July 27, 2015 at 10:20 PM

ShainS on October 17, 2015 at 1:38 PM

The dude who’s in charge of the Fed. Bureau of Prisons is a shady one who will leave at the end of this year, under much suspicion.

He announced abruptly that “he’ll retire”. He’s involved in a big legal case. I posted about it previously and am not in the mood to research, again.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 1:38 PM

More, but not all

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 1:39 PM

Who’ll be next?

Is the old one connected with CAIR?

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 1:40 PM

Hail Halal bacon!

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 1:42 PM

the pork industry lobby

Pork for pork.

gh on October 17, 2015 at 1:12 PM

It’s funnier the original way.

James on October 17, 2015 at 1:43 PM

Mr. Ham, one question: did you choose that picture?

I really don’t want to believe that you, as a gender-fluid, would knowingly choose to mock Hillary’s physical appearance and that hotair has some pimply faced graphics intern who thinks its hilarious to post the worst pictures of dem candidates…

nonpartisan on July 27, 2015 at 10:20 PM

Has this pig ever seen the worst pics…of Trump at HA?

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 1:44 PM

Nice headline, Jazz!

katy the mean old lady on October 17, 2015 at 1:47 PM

Damn … these people just can’t seem to stop pulling the pork … first one way, and then the other … back ‘n’ forth…

listens2glenn on October 17, 2015 at 1:48 PM

Pork was banned because it is the other “white” meat.

banzaibob on October 17, 2015 at 1:50 PM

Pork roast? Pork roast?

We feed criminals delicious pork roast? With mashed potatoes and pan gravy, no doubt? A little corn on the cob in season, maybe a nice slice of cherry pie for dessert?

How about serving these guys who are theoretically paying a debt for their sins to society chopped/pressed/formed “chicken” nuggets, or spaghetti, or textured soy protein burgers instead?

*walks away, mumbling…*

Dolce Far Niente on October 17, 2015 at 1:52 PM

Bacon was not popular… and I’m little Bo Peep.

The Rogue Tomato on October 17, 2015 at 1:05 PM

Gubmit survey shows inmates no longer like bacon, prefer tofu on bed of arugula.

Shurrr.

Who’s in charge of prison menus now, Moochelle or Calypso Louie?

petefrt on October 17, 2015 at 1:53 PM

Why are all scandals appended with –gate as a reference to the Republican Watergate. They should start using Democrat scandals. I propose Pork Server, Porkaquiddick, Pig-ghazi, or Pork Job.

DAT60A3 on October 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM

Dolce Far Niente on October 17, 2015 at 1:52 PM

.
Years ago, in Pennsylvania, prison kitchens use to receive a lot of road-killed deer.

I can’t say whether that’s still in practice, or not … but I thought it a good idea, back then (early 1980s).

listens2glenn on October 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM

ShainS on October 17, 2015 at 1:38 PM

…1st thing I thought when I saw the picture of the pig…Oh gawd…another Hillary thread!

JugEarsButtHurt on October 17, 2015 at 2:04 PM

CAIR saw the pulled pork from prisons as a huge ‘victory’, and were spiking in the end zone on Twitter.

Tells us every thing we needed to know.

WhirledPeas on October 17, 2015 at 2:07 PM

Why are all scandals appended with –gate as a reference to the Republican Watergate. They should start using Democrat scandals. I propose Pork Server, Porkaquiddick, Pig-ghazi, or Pork Job.

DAT60A3 on October 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM

I second -aquiddick.

I would suggest the committee avoid -ghazi because Benghazi shouldn’t be “played with,” and avoid both Server and Job because they are too generic.

0x60 0xA3?

Axe on October 17, 2015 at 2:08 PM

Obama was just honoring his Muslim faith, by banning pork.

TopFuel425 on October 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM

Speaking of “pork”, out of luck…didn’t make it to be an anchor baby.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 2:13 PM

Can I be the first one to coin the term PorkGate?


…Oh God, what did Bill Clinton do NOW…?

:MWAH!:

Good Night, Everybody…!

BlaxPac on October 17, 2015 at 2:16 PM

Prison pork prohibition pulled promptly

Or Outrageously Overreaching Orwellian Obama Oligarchy Opts to Overrule Overreach.

itsnotaboutme on October 17, 2015 at 2:16 PM

But is the ban over entirely? As Fox News pointed out, all the reporting so far indicates that “pork roast” is back on the menu in prison. It doesn’t say anything about bacon, sausage, pork chops or all the rest of those delightful pig products. (Did I already say bacon? Well, it bears repeating.) Were they just using the phrase pork roast generically or is bacon still off the menu? From the phrasing of the responses at the prison bureau it’s only pork roast.

Damn, prisoners eat better than i do. Nothing says love like hamburger helper, chili,sloppy joes, and always lots of pasta.

jaywemm on October 17, 2015 at 2:20 PM

Followers of Mad Mo are not allowed to eat pork.. dhimmis must also submit.

ama on October 17, 2015 at 2:24 PM

Porkaquiddick,

DAT60A3 on October 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM

…ROFL…

Pelosi Schmelosi on October 17, 2015 at 2:25 PM

Years ago, in Pennsylvania, prison kitchens use to receive a lot of road-killed deer.

I can’t say whether that’s still in practice, or not … but I thought it a good idea, back then (early 1980s).

listens2glenn on October 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM

…from your grill to ours…

Pelosi Schmelosi on October 17, 2015 at 2:27 PM

Ground pork is MUCH cheaper than ground beef. $2.50 to $3 a pound vs. $4.50 to $5.50, and MUCH LESS FAT !! I use ground pork instead of ground beef in spaghetti sauce all the time — tastes great.

And even loin pork chops are much cheaper than beef steak.

As a taxpayer, I think federal prisons should use pork ALL THE TIME — easier on Hindus, let Jews eat veggie occasionally … and screw the rest of the (that must remain unnamed) religions.

fred5678 on October 17, 2015 at 2:35 PM

Damn, now I want a 3XB.L.T on toasted oat bread.

(No that’s not a typo, that’s 3 TIMES da Bacon).

‘Murica.

BlaxPac on October 17, 2015 at 2:37 PM

Golly. What’s the fastest growing religion in our prisons?

Hmmmmmm?

Oh, and it ain’t good ole white boy rednecks converting either.

It’s more like the Black Lives Matter crowd.

Ruckus_Tom on October 17, 2015 at 2:48 PM

At the time I wondered whether it had to do with pressure from religious groups who don’t eat pork

Gee, which religious groups might that be, Jazz? Must all those Orthodox Jews.

Pervygrin on October 17, 2015 at 2:49 PM

It’s an Islam thing. And it’s just the beginning. The Democrats have already started the war on barbeque. They haven’t admitted that comes from the Muslim lobby. They did it in England already. Because you ingest pig when you smell bbq.

Buddahpundit on October 17, 2015 at 2:49 PM

Ahaha, Jazz this is awesome. Reading the headline made my brain hurt. :-)

Nephew Sam on October 17, 2015 at 2:56 PM

Ahaha, Jazz this is awesome. Reading the headline made my brain hurt. :-)

Nephew Sam on October 17, 2015 at 2:56 PM

(in a good way)

Nephew Sam on October 17, 2015 at 2:57 PM

If inmates really did not like bacon, then that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt their psychopathy.

Occams Stubble on October 17, 2015 at 3:01 PM

Evidently Jews and Muslims now comprise the largest segment of the prison population…..but it would be politically incorrect to go there.

GarandFan on October 17, 2015 at 3:08 PM

The attempt to ban pork from prisons was just stupid. Someone needs to be hogtied.

SC.Charlie on October 17, 2015 at 3:21 PM

It’s unfortunate that the “news” is not even vaguely specific about this. Normally in a bureaucracy someone has to “justify” a decision.

WHO made the original decision?
Why was the original decision made?

We could look at the rest of it. But I suspect that the who and why would identify a problem that required more than a change of policy.

CrazyGene on October 17, 2015 at 3:22 PM

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2015 at 1:40 PM

Has anyone ever exposed why so many people of white, non-Arab descent in Government converted to Islam?

And why they don’t want anybody to know?

HikaruKitsune on October 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM

It’s got to be a Muslim thing. That’s the only thing that makes sense.

LashRambo on October 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM

Which brings us the solution to another problem:
We’ve been wondering how to sort the Christians, Yazidi, etc. from the “refugees” invading Europe. Well, Christians don’t mind eating pork. So offer two menus: Pork and halal. The pork-eaters get through, the halal-eaters… not so much.

On an unrelated note, how’s MKH doing? I know she’s got a lot on her “plate” recently. As much as has been going on lately, though, the poor gal must be about ready to explode. Surely she could chime in on this?

ReggieA on October 17, 2015 at 3:32 PM

Oh no – what are obama’s filthy muzzies gonna do now? I certainly hope that they don’t become violent.

Pork-Chop on October 17, 2015 at 3:57 PM

Damn, prisoners eat better than i do. Nothing says love like hamburger helper, chili,sloppy joes, and always lots of pasta.

jaywemm on October 17, 2015 at 2:20 PM

Damn, you eat better than I do!

smokeyblonde on October 17, 2015 at 4:10 PM

#DarkMeatMatters

Pork is just too white and racist to be served to the nearly 60% minority prison population.

smokeyblonde on October 17, 2015 at 4:12 PM

Damn, now I want a 3XB.L.T on toasted oat bread.

(No that’s not a typo, that’s 3 TIMES da Bacon).

‘Murica.

BlaxPac on October 17, 2015 at 2:37 PM

FIFY

smokeyblonde on October 17, 2015 at 4:15 PM

It’s obviously a sop to hate groups like CAIR. I’m surprised the Bureau of Prisons isn’t going full Halal “based on prisoners preferences.”

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2015 at 4:26 PM

Damn, now I want a 3XB.L.T on toasted oat bread.

(No that’s not a typo, that’s 3 TIMES da Bacon).

‘Murica.

BlaxPac on October 17, 2015 at 2:37 PM

Sorry but that isn’t good enough. You need to get yourself one of those gadgets that creates a bacon bowl. And fill it with bacon bits!

That’s ‘Murica!

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2015 at 4:29 PM

Prison pork prohibition pulled promptly

Jazz takes a “P”…

the hispanic prisoners asked, “Porque”?

Senator Philip Bluster on October 17, 2015 at 4:42 PM

Pretty obvious

Obama–>Muslim sympathizer and general hater of all things American–>pressure from Muslim groups–>Obama thought he would be sly and impose a bit of that good old Muslim culture on the U.S.

Thankfully it seems to have backfired.

Thelockean on October 17, 2015 at 5:05 PM

C’mon. It was an outright pander to Muslims. None of the excuses make sense. Outside those who have religious objections, how many inmates truly don’t like bacon? Or pork ribs? Or a nice, tender pork roast?

And the economic argument is pure BS. Virtually all cuts of pork remain less expensive than similar cuts of beef.

This is just some of Obama’s tools working a stinking Muslim agenda. These tools will stop at nothing, and petty BS like this pandering to Muslims is just another example of their craven politicking.

The end of this corrupt administration of political hacks can’t come soon enough. The next president is going to have to purge the federal bureaucracy of these a$$holes, and it’s gong to be a big job.

novaculus on October 17, 2015 at 5:39 PM

Sorry but that isn’t good enough. You need to get yourself one of those gadgets that creates a bacon bowl. And fill it with bacon bits!

That’s ‘Murica!

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2015 at 4:29 PM

Oh, snap, Happy! That sounds sooooo goooooooodddd!!!!

Now excuse me while I wipe the drool from my keyboard …

smokeyblonde on October 17, 2015 at 6:00 PM

Confiscating pork for prisoners is like confiscating our guns.

It’s their line in the sand, too!

This is the downward effect of watching Trump triump, by fighting and taking a stand.

Typicalwhitewoman on October 17, 2015 at 6:08 PM

crap….”triumph”

Typicalwhitewoman on October 17, 2015 at 6:09 PM

Does Obama eat pork?

albill on October 17, 2015 at 6:41 PM

Can I be the first one to coin the term PorkGate?

Yes you may.

Dusty on October 17, 2015 at 6:43 PM

I’m thinking Moochelle is behind this. Pork fat is the bestest tasting fat there is in the whole wide world.

Dusty on October 17, 2015 at 6:45 PM

Awesome alliteration!

talkingpoints on October 17, 2015 at 7:07 PM

Oh no, pork, the other white meat.

Cindy Munford on October 17, 2015 at 7:32 PM

Damn, prisoners eat better than i do. Nothing says love like hamburger helper, chili,sloppy joes, and always lots of pasta.

jaywemm on October 17, 2015 at 2:20 PM

Damn, you eat better than I do!

smokeyblonde on October 17, 2015 at 4:10 PM

Forgot to mention….every saturday evening is pizza night at the household…grab a greasy cheezy pizza…with sausage…wash down with some yuengling…helps the prospect of hamburger helper go down a bit getter..you know it tastes just as good without the meat…And real tomato catsup.

jaywemm on October 17, 2015 at 8:39 PM

Fry the pigs, let em burn like bacon?

NoFanofLibs on October 18, 2015 at 8:01 AM

Sorry, but this is prison. If you really want to punish someone take away their bacon. Or is that cruel and unusual punishment?

nhsteve on October 19, 2015 at 3:24 PM