Two more Obamacare co-ops fail: Tennessee and Kentucky both announce closures

posted at 12:41 pm on October 15, 2015 by Kristina Ribali

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Approximately 27,000 Tennesseans who had coverage through the Tennessee Community Health Alliance will be receiving cancelation notices soon. Just yesterday, the CHA announced that it had entered a voluntary state-approved runoff and will no longer offer insurance plans in 2016. This decision comes just weeks away from the next Obamacare Open Enrollment period beginning on November 1, 2015. Policyholders who continue to pay their premiums will keep their coverage through December 31, 2015, but will be forced to choose a new plan from the four remaining carriers participating in the state’s Exchange.

“This was not a decision that the Department took lightly, but it was the right decision,” TDCI Commissioner Julie Mix McPeak said. “With thousands of Tennesseans’ coverage hanging in the balance, CHA’s financial success could not be guaranteed. Ultimately, the risk of CHA’s potential failure in 2016 was too great and would have caused substantial detrimental effects on the market as a whole if it were to collapse.”

This latest announcement from Tennessee comes just days after Kentucky Health Cooperative Inc., the largest insurance provider on Kynect, the state’s ObamaCare exchange, announced it too is going out of business.

According to The Lexington Herald-Leader, Kentucky Health Cooperative has about 51,000 members in all 120 Kentucky counties – about 75 percent of those insured on Kynect – all of whom will have to find new insurance in 2016.

The co-op lost $50 million last year, partly because over 20,000 more people had purchased the insurance than originally estimated. Glenn Jennings, Kentucky Health Cooperative’s interim CEO, told the Herald-Leader that further financial woes came because many of their new members had not previously had health insurance, leading to “a lot of people with pent up medical needs.” Then, said Jennings, “when they suddenly had health insurance…they began using their benefits.”

Jennings said that they had slowed their losses to $4 million in the first half of 2015, but were counting on substantial federal loans to continue operations. Instead, the feds announced they would only provide 12.6 percent of the funds requested by insurers through the assistance program. Kentucky’s insurers were hoping to get a total of $77 million in loans, but only received $9.7 million.

Only 17 of the original 23 co-ops are still providing coverage, despite the federal government doling out a reported $2.4 billion in loans through an assistance program designed to help start Obamacare insurance cooperatives around the country. As of December 2014, 21 of the 23 were still losing money.

The 78,000+ enrollees in these two states who are now being notified that they’re losing their plans will likely find little comfort in the words of former HHS Secretary Sebelius, who recently claimed Obamacare keeps people from being “locked out, priced out, or dumped out,” of their plans.  For these folks, their cancelation notices say otherwise.

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Kristina Ribali is the Senior Coalitions Director for the Foundation for Government Accountability.  Follow Kristina on Twitter for the latest on Obamacare or contact her via email at [email protected]


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Then, said Jennings, “when they suddenly had health insurance…they began using their benefits.”

MADNESS

Axe on October 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM

If you like you plan/doctor, you can keep them!

The utter & completely foreseeable collapse of this disaster of a law would be hilarious if it didn’t negatively affect millions.

Rogue on October 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM

Wait, wut???

Anyone recall the name of the Prog that is always pointing to Kentucky to demonstrate how ‘successful’ Obamacare is?

Bishbop on October 15, 2015 at 12:46 PM

LOL

Obamacare, 10,535 pages of failure.

antipc on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

This perfectly illustrates why we need a single-payer European style health care system. Under single-payer, there’d be no need for co-ops. ALL hospitals would be available to provide free health care to ALL people.

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have earned the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

Frank, you mad genius.

The Schaef on October 15, 2015 at 12:48 PM

Maybe Kynect could have stayed in business had they not bought every billboard in the State.

ConstantineXI on October 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM

When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!
libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM

What an utter disaster.

darwin on October 15, 2015 at 12:50 PM

The co-op lost $50 million last year, partly because over 20,000 more people had purchased the insurance than originally estimated.

The ACA was pitched as a the vehicle for getting people to the healthcare nets. The government demanded you get healthcare or you’d be fined at tax time. They still crow at the numbers that were finally insured. But … we’re insuring too many people now?

(looks up)

MADNESS

hawkdriver on October 15, 2015 at 12:50 PM

But-but- Kentucky was hailed as Obamacare succeeding in a red state and showed how dumb those reactionary conservatives were!

HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED?!?!?!?!?!!!1111oneoneone~

deepelemblues on October 15, 2015 at 12:51 PM

Then, said Jennings, “when they suddenly had health insurance…they began using their benefits”.

MADNESS

Axe on October 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM

People have some nerve don’t they?

antipc on October 15, 2015 at 12:52 PM

Hopefully Obama reads the paper soon to find out how disastrous Obamacare is.

darwin on October 15, 2015 at 12:52 PM

This perfectly illustrates why we need a single-payer European style HEALTH CARE system. Under single-payer, there’d be no need for co-ops. ALL hospitals would be available to provide free health care to ALL people.

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have EARNED the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

I know that you’re trolling, but please allow me to use your satire to post this:

The damning of NHS hospitals: Devastating report from the Care Quality Commission reveals 74% ‘are not doing enough to keep patients safe’

Three in four NHS hospitals are unsafe, official watchdogs warned last night.

In an alarming report, they said casualty cases had been left in makeshift huts outside A&E. Other patients were given the wrong drugs or illegally sedated.

The Care Quality Commission also warned of a culture of bullying and blame, with staff scared to raise concerns or admit blunders.

The report came on the day that an NHS whistleblower was named by his shameless bosses. The professor had revealed that dozens of patients were needlessly put through the agony of chemotherapy.

The most comprehensive NHS assessment ever, the CQC’s 120-page report covers 150 hospitals. A shocking 74 per cent were graded either ‘inadequate’ or requiring ‘improvement’ in terms of patient safety.

The report’s authors noted desperate shortages of nurses and expressed their surprise and ‘intense concern’ at the low standards of care on some wards.

Responding to the findings, Janet Davies of the Royal COLLEGE of NURSING said: ‘The quality of care is too often poor, and in some cases unsafe, and this requires urgent attention.

The report is further evidence that the NHS is struggling to care for an ageing population on a restricted budget. Last week it emerged that hospitals went £1 billion into the red in the first three months of this year and waiting times are rising sharply.

Bishbop on October 15, 2015 at 12:53 PM

Only leftists lose more money when they get more customers than expected.

blink on October 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM

In margins that bewilder.

antipc on October 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM

Bishbop,

Obviously George Soros isn’t paying his fair share. Higher taxes always solves government not having enough money to pay for all the “free” stuff.

deepelemblues on October 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM

ALL hospitals would be available to provide free health care to ALL people.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

tommer74 on October 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM

‘Two more ObamaCare co-ops fail’.

Exxxxcelllennt.
The organism continues to lose necrotic limbs.
Any updates on how many physicians don’t accept ObamaCare?

orangemtl on October 15, 2015 at 12:59 PM

Obamacare is a disaster and a large majority of people have never liked it. It’s very unpopular. Republicans should be beating this thing like a dusty rug.

jaime on October 15, 2015 at 1:00 PM

Keeping government subsidized health insurance is proving more difficult than promised.

antipc on October 15, 2015 at 1:01 PM

Maybe Kynect could have stayed in business had they not bought every billboard in the State.

ConstantineXI on October 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM

Someone ought to pay a midnight call on every one of those billboards and stencil a giant FAILED across each one.

Just house-numbering…

de rigueur on October 15, 2015 at 1:02 PM

Bishbop on October 15, 2015 at 12:53 PM

Mr. Michael Moore showed us safe and quality care in Cuban hospitals. Hopefully, Hillary or Bernie will win the WH in 2016 and all Americans can finally receive care equal to the Cubans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 1:03 PM

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have earned the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

That’s all fine and dandy but the VA isn’t free for very many vets.If you have any assets you pay.

docflash on October 15, 2015 at 1:04 PM

ctually, no. Because marketing expenses aren’t even part of a gross margin calculation. This coop has negative gross margins. They couldn’t have broken even if their marketing expenses had been zero.

blink on October 15, 2015 at 12:51 PM

It was a blanket marketing campaign only an inept government could run. The billboards made sure to never depict white people except in a mixed-race family, in a state that is 86% white. It was at least as stupid as Obamacare marketing done in other states…

ConstantineXI on October 15, 2015 at 1:04 PM

Kentucky’s very own Sen McConnell promised to “rip Obamacare out root & branch” and, sadly, Kentuckians believed him. I hope the good citizens of Kentucky are ready to join me in telling Mitch where he can stick his root & branch.

NixTyranny on October 15, 2015 at 1:04 PM

Well, looks like it’s finally time for single payer.

/lefties

gwelf on October 15, 2015 at 1:06 PM

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have EARNED the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

I’m sorry all y’all veterans dealing with the VA, but did anyone else bust out laughing when they read that?

cozmo on October 15, 2015 at 1:06 PM

Kentucky’s very own Sen McConnell promised to “rip Obamacare out root & branch” and, sadly, Kentuckians believed him. I hope the good citizens of Kentucky are ready to join me in telling Mitch where he can stick his root & branch.

NixTyranny on October 15, 2015 at 1:04 PM

Mitch McConnell isn’t from Kentucky. He’s from LOUISVILLE. You know, the school who’s basketball program was buying PROSTITUTES for recruits and players? Yep, he went there.

ConstantineXI on October 15, 2015 at 1:07 PM

Mr. Michael Moore showed us safe and quality care in Cuban hospitals. Hopefully, Hillary or Bernie will win the WH in 2016 and all Americans can finally receive care equal to the Cubans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 1:03 PM

Frank Lib has got to be one of the best troll/socks around.

cozmo on October 15, 2015 at 1:08 PM

A big middle digit thank-you to Buttcrack Obama….and especially his Republican enablers.

ElectricPhase on October 15, 2015 at 1:08 PM

Only leftists lose more money when they get more customers than expected.
 
blink on October 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM

 
In margins that bewilder.
 
antipc on October 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM

 
And weren’t people required by law to purchase the product?

rogerb on October 15, 2015 at 1:11 PM

Bishbop on October 15, 2015 at 12:53 PM

Mr. Michael Moore showed us safe and quality care in Cuban hospitals. Hopefully, Hillary or Bernie will WINthe WH in 2016 and all Americans can finally receive care equal to the Cubans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 1:03 PM

Tru dat, but I hope that you and I, at least, get to go to the Potemkin hospital visited by Mr Moore and not the ones where Cubans, especially Afro-Cubans, have to seek treatment…amidst insects and rats, bring their own food, medicine, toilet paper, etc, and hope that the staff hasn’t fled to Miami.

Bishbop on October 15, 2015 at 1:13 PM

…more Great Moments In Socialized Medicine…

…the “Weekend Effect”

Last Tuesday the Health Secretary told the Conservative Party conference that he wanted ‘to end the scandal of 11,000 excess deaths each year because of what is known as the “weekend effect” in hospitals’.

Patients who fall ill at weekends often have to wait longer for crucial tests, while many wards are not as well staffed as during ‘office hours’.

Pelosi Schmelosi on October 15, 2015 at 1:13 PM

Working as intended.

Drive the private insurers out of business so they can implement single payer.

How would the IRS react if we only paid 12.6% of our taxes?

Oxymoron on October 15, 2015 at 1:15 PM

How would the IRS react if we only paid 12.6% of our taxes?

Oxymoron on October 15, 2015 at 1:15 PM

There would be prison camps in every town if that happened.

ConstantineXI on October 15, 2015 at 1:16 PM

All part of the plan.

HumpBot Salvation on October 15, 2015 at 1:16 PM

This perfectly illustrates why we need a single-payer European style health care system. Under single-payer, there’d be no need for co-ops. ALL hospitals would be available to provide free health care to ALL people.

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have earned the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

Unbelievable!

1. The VA health system has not worked for our veterans, as anyone who has been paying attention knows.

2. Interesting you said “free health care to ALL people“, you did not provide a qualifier like “ALL citizens“.
Of course there is a built in magnet for even more illegal immigration, and not just from south of the border.
See Germany, Scandinavia.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2015 at 1:16 PM

And weren’t people required by law to purchase the product?

rogerb on October 15, 2015 at 1:11 PM

Yep, every possible metric was exploited in order to demonstrate a positive outcome. And here we are 5 years later staring at a predicted massive failure, care to guess who’ll suffer the most?

antipc on October 15, 2015 at 1:17 PM

Obama lied, my health plan died…twice!

Pelosi Schmelosi on October 15, 2015 at 1:17 PM

Americans have earned the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

And they’re getting it.

antipc on October 15, 2015 at 1:20 PM

Yep, every possible metric was exploited in order to demonstrate a positive outcome. And here we are 5 years later staring at a predicted massive failure, care to guess who’ll suffer the most?

antipc on October 15, 2015 at 1:17 PM

Conservatives and the Republican Party, duh. It’s all our fault. Somehow.

deepelemblues on October 15, 2015 at 1:21 PM

OT

Check out Patrick Moore’s (former leader of Greenpeace) talk on the value of CO2 to mankind and planet earth.

Up on http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/

In fact a challenge to Hot Air owners/managers/writers etal to post it here as a leading thread and get this truth out in the open.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 15, 2015 at 1:22 PM

The government can NEVER provide a good level of medical care / access to medial care at a reasonable price. Governments are just not well ‘designed’ for that type of thing (the incentives are all wrong).

These vile, power-hungry, ideology-driven people will force us all into medicaid / VA style heathcare. It is going to be awful! And they’ll never let us go back. (but, don’t forget that the politicians will always have access to all the high level care they want or need)

Oh, sure, people will complain, and hearings will be held, and nothing will change, ever.

There should be a special place in hell for the people who forced this on us!

LilyBart on October 15, 2015 at 1:25 PM

And weren’t people required by law to purchase the product?

rogerb on October 15, 2015 at 1:11 PM

Yep, every possible metric was exploited in order to demonstrate a positive outcome.

antipc on October 15, 2015 at 1:17 PM

Impossible! We haven’t adopted the metric system.

‘Let’s join the rest of the world and go metric! It’s time for America to get right with everyone else!’

– Lincoln Chaffee/Hank Johnson 2016!!!111!!!

Bishbop on October 15, 2015 at 1:26 PM

This perfectly illustrates why we need a single-payer European style health care system. Under single-payer, there’d be no need for co-ops. ALL hospitals would be available to provide free health care to ALL people.

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have earned the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

Frank, I think you are really on to something here. Convert Obamacare to VA style care. It works by “losing” 25% of the population through “administrative methods”. It’ll be just like the unemployment figures where 10 million workers has simply vanished in the last six years.

Think how this strategy can be extended! We can open up our borders to any and all and yet the U.S. population will decrease to only 200 million! Per capita spending per U.S. student will go through the roof. We’ll look like the best academic financed country in the world! Extend this even further to Social Security, with only 10 million seniors, imagine what the annual S.S. stipend would be!

Why, I bet with just a little more creative effort, the remaining existing population could all be finagled into that magical 1%. Think of the new income tax possibilities! Bernie could have every program he ever dreamed of and still have a budget surplus.

It’s Utopia I’m telling you!

parke on October 15, 2015 at 1:31 PM

Fortunately for them, they can choose the doctor of their choice and go back to them…right? Right?

That’s what the president of the United States told us many times, a promise he made to us…right? Right?

right2bright on October 15, 2015 at 1:33 PM

I hope they don’t like their plans…

greasyspoon on October 15, 2015 at 1:45 PM

Dreadloc used to have an O-No-Care policy too. No more. Bummer.

22044 on October 15, 2015 at 1:45 PM

By the way, Kristina fills the void left by Erika Johnsen.

Wait, you thought Noah Rothman did?

22044 on October 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM

*pours one out for Tina Korbe*

Axe on October 15, 2015 at 1:50 PM

When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!
libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM

HotAir’s resident historian™ with the timeless classics…

JusDreamin on October 15, 2015 at 1:52 PM

*pours one out for Tina Korbe*

Axe on October 15, 2015 at 1:50 PM

And her glorious fried butter on a stick.

22044 on October 15, 2015 at 1:56 PM

Faster, please.

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2015 at 1:57 PM

When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!
libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM

The one about whistling past the graveyard is still my favorite but this one is good too. :0

Which reminds me. I wonder what gay Chad from Chattanooga thinks about Obamacare now. He was trotted out as a first day success story (though it turned out to be a fraud).

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2015 at 2:26 PM

But-but- Kentucky was hailed as Obamacare succeeding in a red state and showed how dumb those reactionary conservatives were!

HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED?!?!?!?!?!!!1111oneoneone~

deepelemblues on October 15, 2015 at 12:51 PM

According to the Lexington Herald paper we here in Kentucky are still a smashing success story. By having the largest health insurance provider go out of business that has opened up the market for dozens of other Companies to come in and compete. Brilliant! according to the papers editors.

Johnnyreb on October 15, 2015 at 2:40 PM

Doesn’t matter. The GOPe-majority Court* has decided (in favor of GOPey insurance firm donors) that it’s irrelevant whether a state operates an exchange.

——
*next year you’ll be told a million times that we need a Roberts court!

kunegetikos on October 15, 2015 at 2:43 PM

This perfectly illustrates why we need a single-payer European style health care system. Under single-payer, there’d be no need for co-ops. ALL hospitals would be available to provide free health care to ALL people.

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have earned the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

I needed a laugh, thanks!

But it makes sense from the point of a marxist population control. Can’t do it just by abortions.

@ VA hospitals, our military is mistreated & many have died.

So get the rest of the population on the same system.

Liberalism, the party of death.

Belle on October 15, 2015 at 2:49 PM

Unbelievable!

1. The VA health system has not worked for our veterans, as anyone who has been paying attention knows.

2. Interesting you said “free health care to ALL people“, you did not provide a qualifier like “ALL citizens“. Of course there is a built in magnet for even more illegal immigration, and not just from south of the border. See Germany, Scandinavia.

Brian1972 on October 15, 2015 at 1:16 PM

Got a big one there, Frank! He’ll look nice over your mantlepiece.

Athanasius on October 15, 2015 at 2:50 PM

By the way, Kristina fills the void left by Erika Johnsen.

Wait, you thought Noah Rothman did?

22044 on October 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM

So are there any conservative writers?

Wait, its us minus the trolls!

Belle on October 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have earned the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

I recently talked to a guy who had VA. He said that the plans were provided by commercial insurance companies, and he had to pick between two of them. So it’s still not single-payer “done right”.

Axeman on October 15, 2015 at 3:23 PM

what!!! you mean that the cost aren’t going down $2500

i guess you’re going to tell me next that not every one is insured

and i’m not going to loose my doctor and plan

oh what a tangled web we weave when we try to deceive.

telephone2 on October 15, 2015 at 3:26 PM

but…but,they liked their plan!!!!

All predicted because it was so predictable.

Quartermaster on October 15, 2015 at 3:57 PM

It seem hardly with noting but unless you provide the insurance companies cover (guaranteed governmental reimbursement payments on providing the service at forced reduced rates) we will continue to see all the markets run to one or two options.

In fact Obamacare in the end will result in 2 or 3 national insurance programs – that will be it. Anthem/Wellpoint, UHC and one other one. Then with everyone in one of the three programs, the feds will begin to ration care by how big the subsidy is to each insurer.

You may hate the insurers, but ObamaCare in the end will create three mega health insurance companies just facilitating a defacto single payer system that treats an every smaller percentage of the need for care.

Zomcon JEM on October 15, 2015 at 4:20 PM

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have earned the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

I recently talked to a guy who had VA. He said that the plans were provided by commercial insurance companies, and he had to pick between two of them. So it’s still not single-payer “done right”.

Axeman on October 15, 2015 at 3:23 PM

Centrists like Frank “I Heart Big Insurance” Lib just don’t get it.

Axe on October 15, 2015 at 5:52 PM

Centrists like Frank “I Heart Big Insurance” Lib just don’t get it.

Axe on October 15, 2015 at 5:52 PM

Axe, you know that Frank is a sarcastic poster, don’t you? The guy’s an artist.

The giveaway is always rather subtle.

Axeman on October 15, 2015 at 6:26 PM

If it can work for veteran hospitals it can work for all citizens. Americans have earned the right to receive the same quality of medical care we provide to our military veterans.

Frank Lib on October 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM

Now that right there is pretty dang funny! :)

smokeyblonde on October 15, 2015 at 6:39 PM

The ACA was pitched as a the vehicle for getting people to the healthcare nets. The government demanded you get healthcare or you’d be fined at tax time. They still crow at the numbers that were finally insured. But … we’re insuring too many people now?

(looks up)

MADNESS

hawkdriver on October 15, 2015 at 12:50 PM

Back in the seventies, during gas rationing, IIRC some states raised their gas taxes because people weren’t buying enough to keep the cash flow coming.

My own water company a couple of years ago did such a good job making us conserve water that they “had to” raise the rates to recoup their costs (or keep the pseudo-profit level steady, whichever).

FTR, the lengthy gas shortage was caused by the government not allowing prices to float during the initial stages, but imposing controls.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/may/15/20060515-122820-6110r/?page=all

By – The Washington Times – Monday, May 15, 2006
Proposals to control gasoline prices and tax producers’ windfall profits were popular ideas that were tried — without much success — during the oil shocks of the 1970s and 1980s.

The era of price controls is most remembered for long lines at gas stations. The controls were put in place by the Nixon and Ford administrations in reaction to a jump in fuel prices caused by cuts in production by the newly formed international oil cartel, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

Back then, “price controls turned a minor adjustment into a major shortage,” said Thomas Sowell, author of “Basic Economics: A Citizen’s Guide to the Economy.”

Mr. Sowell says that although the best response would have been to let prices rise, giving oil companies an incentive to produce more and consumers an incentive to conserve, “this basic level of economics is seldom understood by the public, which often demands ‘political’ solutions that turn out to make matters worse.”

The public — as it does today — wanted low prices. But the artificially depressed pump prices imposed during the oil crisis of 1973 — which stayed in place in various iterations through 1980 — brought about lines at gas stations and an artificial shortage of gas, he said.

The price controls resulted in a fuel-rationing system that made available about 5 percent less oil than was consumed before the controls.

As Ronaldus Magnus said: “The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

AesopFan on October 15, 2015 at 6:40 PM

Kentucky’s very own Sen McConnell promised to “rip Obamacare out root & branch” and, sadly, Kentuckians believed him. I hope the good citizens of Kentucky are ready to join me in telling Mitch where he can stick his root & branch.

NixTyranny on October 15, 2015 at 1:04 PM

“If you like your Senator you can keep your Senator.”
If you don’t like him, you can’t ever get rid of him.

The infuriating thing is not so much that the GOP didn’t kill Obamacare — that was always going to be a substantial problem — it’s that they didn’t even TRY.

AesopFan on October 15, 2015 at 6:41 PM

Axe, you know that Frank is a sarcastic poster, don’t you? The guy’s an artist.

The giveaway is always rather subtle.

Axeman on October 15, 2015 at 6:26 PM

Well, yes — I called him a centrist and tried to imply he was a corporate shill . . .

Sigh. :)

Fine. I’ll put down irony for awhile. I’ve obviously lost my mojo.

— I don’t know, man. Saying what I actually mean is going to take a lot of practice.

Axe on October 15, 2015 at 6:43 PM

Frank Lib has got to be one of the best troll/socks around.

cozmo on October 15, 2015 at 1:08 PM

I like the term sarc-troll.

Frank, I think you are really on to something here. Convert Obamacare to VA style care. It works by “losing” 25% of the population through “administrative methods”. It’ll be just like the unemployment figures where 10 million workers has simply vanished in the last six years.

Think how this strategy can be extended! We can open up our borders to any and all and yet the U.S. population will decrease to only 200 million! Per capita spending per U.S. student will go through the roof. We’ll look like the best academic financed country in the world! Extend this even further to Social Security, with only 10 million seniors, imagine what the annual S.S. stipend would be!

Why, I bet with just a little more creative effort, the remaining existing population could all be finagled into that magical 1%. Think of the new income tax possibilities! Bernie could have every program he ever dreamed of and still have a budget surplus.

It’s Utopia I’m telling you!

parke on October 15, 2015 at 1:31 PM

Two mad geniuses in one post —

AesopFan on October 15, 2015 at 6:43 PM

I also won’t be able to make a single joke . . .

But I will try.

For the love of smartassery.

Axe on October 15, 2015 at 6:45 PM

I’m sorry all y’all veterans dealing with the VA, but did anyone else bust out laughing when they read that?

cozmo on October 15, 2015 at 1:06 PM

***Raises the hand not covered by the beer I spit out at the same time … ***

When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!
libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM

Damn but that never gets old! Good thing libthing doesn’t get royalties on it!

smokeyblonde on October 15, 2015 at 6:50 PM

As Ronaldus Magnus said: “The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

AesopFan on October 15, 2015 at 6:40 PM

And his best quote not intended for public consumption: “The bombing commences in 5 minutes.”

If he were alive today, he’d be referring to Washington instead of USSR. Good times, my friend, Good. Times.

smokeyblonde on October 15, 2015 at 6:58 PM

And his best quote not intended for public consumption: “The bombing commences in 5 minutes.”

If he were alive today, he’d be referring to Washington instead of USSR. Good times, my friend, Good. Times.

smokeyblonde on October 15, 2015 at 6:58 PM

Indeed.
Wish I believed in reincarnation.

AesopFan on October 15, 2015 at 7:13 PM

Wish I believed in reincarnation.

AesopFan on October 15, 2015 at 7:13 PM

We share the same birthday … close enough!

Except I’m a female, never been a Dem, and am not nearly so eloquent or congenial or smart … but details, details. :)

smokeyblonde on October 15, 2015 at 7:29 PM