Three Pinocchios for Obama’s claim of “strong support” for Iran deal

posted at 12:41 pm on September 14, 2015 by Ed Morrissey

When 42 Senate Democrats blocked debate on the Iran deal, they prevented a floor vote that would have resulted in a bill rejecting the pact negotiated by John Kerry and approved by Barack Obama. Recent polling from Pew shows support for the deal at 21% — the kind of level that indicates the fringe of American politics. The House passed a bill to reject the nuclear deal by a 269-162 margin.  Yet after the filibuster, Obama bragged about the “strong support” he received for the deal from “lawmakers and citizens alike”:

“Since we concluded these negotiations, we have had the most consequential national security debate since the decision to invade Iraq more than a decade ago. Over the last several weeks, the more members studied the details of this deal, the more they came out in support. Today, I am heartened that so many Senators judged this deal on the merits, and am gratified by the strong support of lawmakers and citizens alike.”

Er … what? Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler is similarly mystified. Not only did both chambers of Congress oppose the deal, polls all summer long showed the deal losing support the more people heard about it, and not just from Pew. The YouGov polls dropped from 45% support to 23% in less than two months; the NBC/WSJ polling series never had support above 35%; and Reuters daily polling showed a five-day average support level of just 29.4% at the beginning of September.

Besides, when it takes a filibuster to avoid an embarrassing (if not permanent) rejection of the deal, a president can’t turn around and claim a mandate. At best, as Kessler says, it’s “winning ugly”:

As you can see, support for the agreement consistently dropped over the summer, even as the White House was picking up enough votes from Democratic lawmakers to thwart a resolution nullifying the agreement. In large part, the shift is because the debate became hyper-partisan. As Republican lawmakers unified in opposition, sentiment among Republican voters also turned against the deal.

But the polls also reflect declining support among Democrats. By the beginning of September, there was barely a poll that, outside the margin of error, indicated majority support for the deal, let alone “strong” support. …

Anyway you slice it, it is difficult to support the claim that there is “strong support” for the Iran deal among lawmakers and citizens. This is clearly a case of winning ugly, in the face of minority support among lawmakers and increasing opposition among American citizens.

Obama gets three Pinocchios from Kessler, which seems low given the baldly propagandistic and provably false nature of the claim, but YMMV. It brings up another issue about credibility, too. Is this “strong support” anything like the “strong inspections” Obama promises will be part of this deal? How about Obama’s claims of maintaining a “strong relationship” with our ally, Israel? The Times of Israel wonders whether Obama can regain Israel’s trust after cutting this deal with their existential-threat enemies:

Wide swaths of the Israeli public, particularly supporters of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have little trust in the American leader, considering him naive and even hostile. One recent poll showed less than a tenth considered him “pro-Israel.”

Such misgivings bode poorly for Obama as he tries to repair ties with Israel in the final year of his presidency, and they would certainly complicate any renewed effort at brokering peace between Israel and its neighbors — once a major Obama ambition. …

“The average Israeli probably thinks that he is a nice guy, but he is naive,” said Alexander Yakobson, a historian at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. In Israeli eyes, “he doesn’t get the Middle East, doesn’t understand how the Mideast functions, and he doesn’t therefore understand what dangers Israel has to face,” he added. …

But the biggest issue has been the US-led nuclear agreement with Iran. Politicians across the spectrum have come out against deal, agreeing with Netanyahu’s assessment that it does not have sufficient safeguards to prevent Iran from gaining the ability to make a bomb and that it will boost Iran’s influence across the region. Iran is a key backer of Israel’s toughest enemies, and Netanyahu has warned that the ending of sanctions against Iran will result in more money and arms flowing to groups like Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

Recent opinion polls reflect these sentiments. In one survey published Sunday in the Maariv daily, 77 percent of respondents said the deal endangers Israel, compared to 15 percent who said it didn’t. The poll interviewed 500 people and had a margin of error of 4.3 percentage points.

Hey, don’t worry, Israel! Obama says he’s a “strong supporter” of Israel. And now you know what that means.


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rhombus on September 14, 2015 at 12:44 PM

He surrounds himself with sycophants, so from his perspective support is unanimous.

NotCoach on September 14, 2015 at 12:45 PM

He lies about everything, why would this be different?

Flange on September 14, 2015 at 12:45 PM

The Dope in Chief

It’s embarrassing for the US and for the world. However, the stupid world and the US deserve this traitor.

Schadenfreude on September 14, 2015 at 12:46 PM

Hey, don’t worry, Israel! Obama says he’s a “strong supporter” of Israel. And now you know what that means.

…yeah don’t worry Israel…he’s a Constitutional lawyer…and the smartest POTUS evah…and a brilliant orator…and runs the most transparent administration evah…and a devout Christian…and heck if you like your health insurance, has he got a “deal” for you…

Pelosi Schmelosi on September 14, 2015 at 12:47 PM

Barack Pinocchio

Schadenfreude on September 14, 2015 at 12:47 PM

98-1 is a landslide.

kunegetikos on September 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM

Only three Pinocchios?
A real newspaper would have given him four.
Or five.

orangemtl on September 14, 2015 at 12:55 PM

Obama steps up to speak — everybody knows he’s going to lie, yet we have to sit through the pretense of people listening to his blather as if it had any validity whatsoever. God I hope the history books report fairly on how much this worst-president-ever out and out LIED to the American people whenever he spoke.

otlset on September 14, 2015 at 12:56 PM

Obama gets three Pinocchios from Kessler, which seems low given the baldly propagandistic and provably false nature of the claim

…The Narcissist-in-Chief is insulted…anything less than Five Pinocchios and the little turd throws a hissy fit and blames Republicans…

Pelosi Schmelosi on September 14, 2015 at 1:00 PM

Obama has promised Israel no mushroom clouds.
Which is just as valuable as his promise to lower health care costs.

gwelf on September 14, 2015 at 1:00 PM

This is a case of ‘winning’ by a minority who doesn’t want to vote on the case.

I hate McConnell and Boehner more than Reid/Pelosi. They are the real traitor of today.

Schadenfreude on September 14, 2015 at 1:01 PM

Hey, 21% IS strong support. What don’t you people understand?

ToddPA on September 14, 2015 at 1:05 PM

“The average Israeli probably thinks that he is a nice guy, but he is naive,”

That is naive itself. Otherwise, why not release the Rashid Khalidi tribute video?

rbj on September 14, 2015 at 1:07 PM

He is shameless. He was elected (twice) on fraud and governs on fraud!

rjoco1 on September 14, 2015 at 1:10 PM

‘……and am gratified by the strong support of lawmakers and citizens alike.’

He obviously meant the Iranians.

WilDanielson on September 14, 2015 at 1:13 PM

we’re more comfortable with Obama wielding this sort of power because he seems a hell of a lot more effective and responsible with it.
urban elitist on February 8, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Schadenfreude on September 14, 2015 at 1:13 PM

polls all summer long showed the deal losing support the more people heard about it

…what about “Death To America” isn’t to like..??…heck even Odooshbag yells it at least 15 times a day…

Pelosi Schmelosi on September 14, 2015 at 1:17 PM

I think he meant strong support from the mullahs.

Ward Cleaver on September 14, 2015 at 1:18 PM

God willing, Obama will be in whatever city Iran decides to make their first nuke target.

ConstantineXI on September 14, 2015 at 1:21 PM

the iran deal that is finalizing can partly be credited to hillary’s laying the groundwork for that relationship
nonpartisan on April 13, 2015 at 11:01 PM

Pelosi Schmelosi on September 14, 2015 at 1:21 PM

… we have had the most consequential national security debate since the decision to invade Iraq more than a decade ago.

When was this? You mean the debate on the floor that got filibustered?

Should’ve gotten Pinocchios for that bald faced lie as well.

So narcissistic and delusional, he believes his own lies.

Oxymoron on September 14, 2015 at 1:22 PM

What’s the guy gotta do to get a “Pants on fire”?

Fallon on September 14, 2015 at 1:22 PM

What the axis of evil owes Obama

Obama’s presidency has been paved not with failures, but with a string of the most successfully orchestrated disasters in history

.

…LOL…

Pelosi Schmelosi on September 14, 2015 at 1:26 PM

The lying POS must have fooled himself into thinking we are all fools, or else he is just giving everyone the presidential finger.
His legacy is already one of failure. His domestic policies are failing to achieve the promised results, and are now and will continue to cause economic hardship.
His foreign policies are causing a resurgence of America’s enemies. Chaos and destruction reign in the ME, with the suffering and deaths of untold numbers of innocents, and a relentless wave of refugees from the region threatening to swallow up western civilization.
Yet, he has the gall to preen and strut in front of the camera as if he is the messiah and healer of the Earth. He is either completely lacking in self awareness, or is such an extremely narcissistic sociopath that he is divorced from reality.
Unbelievable how his lies continue to expand in brazenness, surmounting even the plethora of lies which have come before.

bobthm3 on September 14, 2015 at 1:30 PM

I’m still confused as to why Congress has to vote to stop this deal from happening as opposed to voting to approve it. That seems backwards to me.

hopeful on September 14, 2015 at 1:47 PM

The Lying Sack of America is playing for the other team.

Mason on September 14, 2015 at 1:53 PM

I own a coffee cup that’s inscribed “I live in my own little world. That’s OK. They know me here.” For me, it’s a joke. For the current occupant of the Oval Office, it describes his entire life. He has never had to deal with the Real World.

Rusty Bill on September 14, 2015 at 1:55 PM

Obama says he’s a “strong supporter” of Israel. And now you know what that means.

Indeed.

Just want to point out that when Obama’s party lost the midterms, he declared that he was now possessor of the mandate to do what he wanted, because he was speaking for all of the people who didn’t vote.

This man is a genius.
Evil, twisted, and sick – but a genius.

AesopFan on September 14, 2015 at 1:58 PM

I think the strong support he was referring to was from Iran.

Emett_the_great on September 14, 2015 at 2:06 PM

Yet after the filibuster, Obama bragged about the “strong support” he received for the deal from “lawmakers and citizens alike”

That would be Turban Durbin and Valerie Jarrett.

Happy Nomad on September 14, 2015 at 2:06 PM

Obama WINS, America Loses!!!

. . . Russia, China and Iran benefit.

Nat George on September 14, 2015 at 2:19 PM

“This is clearly a case of winning ugly.”

This is clearly a case of the ends justifies the means.

Still, why is the sycophantic Glenn Kessler only awarding three Pinocchio’s? That’s right, both he and the WaPoo are shills and sycophants for Obama….who also shamelessly embrace the ends justifies the means.

Athos on September 14, 2015 at 2:29 PM

Obama gets three Pinocchios from Kessler, which seems low given the baldly propagandistic and provably false nature of the claim, but YMMV.

Seems low?

Seems low?

How about: seems like shameless spin for an obvious lie? How about: seems like a good reason to question his credibility as a fact checker at all?

Do pundits live in the same world with the rest of us?

There Goes the Neighborhood on September 14, 2015 at 2:31 PM

There aren’t enough Pinocchio’s to cover all the lies told by O and his cohorts.

Lee Jan on September 14, 2015 at 2:31 PM

Complete and Utter Fraud.

493 days and counting.

Missilengr on September 14, 2015 at 2:32 PM

Related, a comment from the earlier Barone Headlines thread, on how Obama fundamentally transformed America:

Obama did a couple of other things.

He proved virtually anything is possible when the media are willing to suspend any notions of journalism and pump a narrative that aligned with their politics. This includes concealing your past and replacing it with a fable, turning a Leftist community organizer with the attitudes and ideology of a ’60s black radical Maoist into a centrist bridge-builder.

He took the time-honored political practice of appealing to the lowest common denominator and showed just how low you can go and win.

And he proved, with repeated examples, that he could not only lie to the entire nation, but turn the truth on its head and proclaim the exact opposite of the truth to be reality, with that reality as a backdrop, and the same idiots who bought into his bullshit persona and voted for him would ignore their lying eyes and keep the faith.

In other words, he exposed us a a nation where idiots and delusional fools are in the majority.

There are some real lessons there, never to be forgotten.

novaculus on September 14, 2015 at 2:08 PM

I’m betting a majority of the idiots who voted for this traitorous ba$tard twice believe what he says about support for his betrayal of America a/k/a the Iran “deal”, too.

novaculus on September 14, 2015 at 2:59 PM

What does it takes to slap Obama with a full-fiver of Pinocchio’s – a speech in Austrian?

Rix on September 14, 2015 at 3:01 PM

Why does the sycophant media like this man??? What is there to like? I wish we didn’t have to see his picture when there is a post about the liar. The rat eared liar believes his own lies. He will try to lie o Christ a his Judgement Time. What an arrogant fool this rat eared lying bastard. I can’t even stand to listen to that voice either. The bastard will probably outlive me as well. He probably will also outlive this nation.

garydt on September 14, 2015 at 3:07 PM

What does it takes to slap Obama with a full-fiver of Pinocchio’s – a speech in Austrian?

Rix on September 14, 2015 at 3:01 PM

Yes, in the Austristan dialect of Arabic that is being spoken by the new masters of that country.

ConstantineXI on September 14, 2015 at 3:22 PM

Ugly is the only way he knows how to win and doesn’t care in the least.

Cindy Munford on September 14, 2015 at 3:31 PM

For a long time this administration has stated such untruths but the media either ignores the obvious falsehood or supports it! The old “a lie reappeared enough becomes believable”

johnintexas on September 14, 2015 at 4:29 PM

“Reality” is what King Barack says it is. And if you disagree, STFU! because you’re just RACIST!

GarandFan on September 14, 2015 at 5:36 PM

To understand the thinking of The One, all that is required is to remember he is an ideological leftist.

His “thinking” can be encapsulated as follows:

Fact 1: Israel has nuclear weapons.
Fact 2: Israel is an oppressive state (see Palestine and Gaza).
Fact 3: Iran’s leaders spew “heated rhetoric” strictly for domestic political consumption.
Fact 4: Everyone desires peace.
Fact 5: Peace is achieved through a balance of power (see Mutual Assured Destruction)..

Therefore, Iran should possess nuclear weapons to counter the imbalance of power held by Israel and ensure peace.

Of course, other than Fact 1, it’s all caca del toro. But, that never concerns leftists as they are by definition — their own to be sure — infallible.

What really perplexes leftists is why anyone disagrees with them.

LaserBeam on September 14, 2015 at 9:24 PM

With props to Alanis Morrisette, isn’t it ironic:

That that same people who are so concerned with bullying and microaggression, can’t recognize it in the actions of fundamentalist Muslim states?

That the same people who sought unilateral nuclear disarmament by western nations, now favor the spread of nuclear weapons to a terror-sponsoring state?

That the same people who desire total separation of church and state, so easily place their trust trust in a theocratic dictatorship?

LaserBeam on September 14, 2015 at 9:33 PM