Latest NBC/Marist has Hillary losing to… well, pretty much everyone

posted at 10:01 am on September 6, 2015 by Jazz Shaw

Part of the news coming out of the latest NBC/Marist poll isn’t going to come as much of a surprise. In a robust survey taken between August 26 and September 2 with nearly 1,000 participants in Iowa and New Hampshire, the headlines for Hillary Clinton are just great… if she’s actually thinking about just retiring to spend more time with her new granddaughter. Bernie Sanders is beating her up pretty badly in New Hampshire no matter who you include in the list of contenders. (NBC News)

In New Hampshire, the Vermont senator gets the support of 41 percent of Democratic voters, Clinton gets 32 percent and Vice President Joe Biden gets 16 percent. No other Democratic candidate receives more than 1 percent…

Without Biden in the race, Sanders’ lead over Clinton in the current survey increases to 11 points, 49 percent to 38 percent.

The trend continues in Iowa, where Hillary is hanging on to her previous lead, but it’s slipping further away every week.

In Iowa, Clinton maintains her previous advantage over Sanders – but her lead has declined from 24 points in July (49 percent to 25 percent) to 11 points (38 percent to 27 percent); Biden sits at 20 percent.

The full results for New Hampshire are here and the Iowa results are here. The curious thing here is the Biden effect. I think there was an assumption that he would draw from the “establishment Democrats” pool of voters rather than the Elizabeth Warren wing, but Bernie seems to be haunting Hillary strongly whether Uncle Joe is in the race or out.

In other words, the Democrat primary doesn’t seem to be doing anything unexpected. But the numbers for potential general election match-ups are where it gets interesting. Remember when I told you about that SurveyUSA poll and said that we would need to see some other, big, deep surveys showing Trump beating Hillary before we got too excited? Well, this isn’t a national survey, obviously, but given the differences between Iowa and New Hampshire they offer a fairly good spread. And guess what? The Hillary vs Donald general election battle still isn’t looking very good for the former First Lady.

[T]he NBC/Marist polls find that Jeb Bush and Donald Trump both beat Clinton in Iowa:

Bush 50 percent, Clinton 39 percent
Trump 48 percent, Clinton 43 percent.

But Biden performs better:

Bush 46 percent, Biden 44 percent
Biden 49 percent, Trump 45 percent

In New Hampshire, the general-election numbers are:

Bush 48 percent, Clinton 43 percent
Clinton 46 percent, Trump 45 percent
Bush 46 percent, Biden 45 percent
Biden 50 percent, Trump 41 percent.

So just as a reminder, this isn’t national. It’s just two states, but ones which can be fairly indicative since they represent two significantly different slices of the general electorate. Trump can win Iowa against Hillary and is in a statistical tie in New Hampshire. This adds a lot of credence to the SurveyUSA numbers, albeit zoomed down to a pair of microcosms. But even more curious is the fact that Bush seems to be doing even better in both states. That wouldn’t hold up in a lot of the South where Trump seems to be cleaning up, of course, but there’s apparently still some juice in the Bush battery. Biden is also surprisingly strong, but personally I think it’s becoming less and less likely that he’s going to jump in.

Bottom line: the Summer of Trump looks to be heading into the Autumn of Trump. And barring something changing radically we’re going to be looking at your Winter of Trump Discontent as well. Give us a couple more polls like this after the next debate and it’s going to be closing in on the time when everyone needs to accept that Trump not only could be the GOP nominee, but that he’s probably the odds on favorite.


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…tell that to the MSM!

JugEarsButtHurt on September 6, 2015 at 10:03 AM

Oh wow another poll pushing the bush baby against a Clinton. Color me surprised not.

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2015 at 10:05 AM

How does she do against deep nuts?

clement on September 6, 2015 at 10:06 AM

Why are they polling Bush v the D’s when he is at 5% in the Primary? Yes, it’s rhetorical.

Hmmmmm

artist on September 6, 2015 at 10:07 AM

Wait… so Trump is moderate… and he’s electable?? Eureka! We have our guy.

Thanks GOP.

faraway on September 6, 2015 at 10:08 AM

The MSM and the Republican establishment kept haranguing Trump about a possible third party run….BUT….There is only one actual third party running in this election, the Socialist Bernard, any NO ONE is wondering if he’d run third party?

dirtseller on September 6, 2015 at 10:13 AM

Without the cover from criticism that racially untouchable Obama gave him, some may actually notice how unimaginably stupid Joe “Plugs” Biden is. Nothing says “presidential candidate” like publicly groping an ugly biker.

Rix on September 6, 2015 at 10:16 AM

[T]he NBC/Marist polls find that Jeb Bush and Donald Trump both beat Clinton in Iowa:

Bush 50 percent

Uh….right.

funkengruven on September 6, 2015 at 10:17 AM

Why are we looking at a propaganda poll put out by leftturds as if it wasn’t complete rubbish? The words nbc and poll in the same sentence are a dead giveaway.

dogsoldier on September 6, 2015 at 10:18 AM

The MSM and the Republican establishment kept haranguing Trump about a possible third party run….BUT….There is only one actual third party running in this election, the Socialist Bernard, any NO ONE is wondering if he’d run third party?

dirtseller on September 6, 2015 at 10:13 AM

Heh, because they know there’s no need for him to. The Democrat Party is socialist in all but name, and the Republicans are the Democrats’ handmaiden. By the transitive property, Republicans are socialists as well. The only player who isn’t in on the Great Game is Trump, and that’s only to an extent.

Fenris on September 6, 2015 at 10:18 AM

Jeb will not beat Hillary, or anyone else for that matter. He is the one candidate guaranteed to lose.

xblade on September 6, 2015 at 10:21 AM

Where did NBC find these Bush voters? Nobody else has been able to find them.

huckleberryfriend on September 6, 2015 at 10:23 AM

The only player who isn’t in on the Great Game is Trump, and that’s only to an extent.

Fenris on September 6, 2015 at 10:18 AM

You’re saying Cruz is a socialist ?

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 10:24 AM

Odds on favorite? From polls in September? President Guiliani, President Thompson, President Perry, and President Cain all say hello.

Sometimes I think this is the first election bloggers have ever watched.

village idiot on September 6, 2015 at 10:28 AM

funkengruven on September 6, 2015 at 10:17 AM

huckleberryfriend on September 6, 2015 at 10:23 AM

Pollsters perform their service for cash and can make a very nice looking paper that says anything you want it to say.

JEB “press 2 for Englaise” is not even on the radar really in NH. Everyone is talking about Trump and Cruz.

Here’s a REAL poll for you. Trump and JEB had rallies the same day a week or so ago. Trump had several thousand people JEB has several, like under a hundred.

This document is really a BS attempt to shape opinion instead of measuring it.

dogsoldier on September 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM

You’re saying Cruz is a socialist ?

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 10:24 AM

Heh, no, Cruz is conservative on most issues (and Jindal and some others). The Republican party as a whole though is a left wing party. Trump is about the middle of the pack ideologically. And Trump is no conservative, except on immigration, and maybe a couple of other things. If you can call nationalism conservative, I guess.

But Cruz is in on the game. His vote for trade authority (for it before he was against it) proves that. Why did he vote for something that it was illegal for him to read (i.e. TiSA)? Then he comes up with some lame excuse afterwards about insider politics.

But okay, I do think Ted Cruz would be infinitely better as President than anyone since Reagan. But he doesn’t have Trump’s pair.

Fenris on September 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM

Heh, no, Cruz is conservative on most issues (and Jindal and some others). The Republican party as a whole though is a left wing party. Trump is about the middle of the pack ideologically. And Trump is no conservative, except on immigration, and maybe a couple of other things. If you can call nationalism conservative, I guess.

But Cruz is in on the game. His vote for trade authority (for it before he was against it) proves that. Why did he vote for something that it was illegal for him to read (i.e. TiSA)? Then he comes up with some lame excuse afterwards about insider politics.

But okay, I do think Ted Cruz would be infinitely better as President than anyone since Reagan. But he doesn’t have Trump’s pair.

Fenris on September 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM

No, the GOP Establishment elitist Aristocracy are Socialist/Marxist, the Base is not, which is why the base is in such an uproar and supporting Trump.

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM

The GOPee can’t win unless they focus on winning the transgenders, and nobody appeals to transgenders — not even Killary — more than ¡Yeb!

#GOPeeConsultantIndustrialComplex

ShainS on September 6, 2015 at 10:37 AM

OK. I see what you’re saying.

But okay, I do think Ted Cruz would be infinitely better as President than anyone since Reagan. But he doesn’t have Trump’s pair.

Fenris on September 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM

The styles certainly are different, but I would say that a senator calling the head of his party a liar is sort of ballsy.

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 10:38 AM

Why are we looking at a propaganda poll put out by leftturds as if it wasn’t complete rubbish? The words nbc and poll in the same sentence are a dead giveaway.

dogsoldier on September 6, 2015 at 10:18 AM

Latest NBC/Marist

…they keep spelling…/Marxist…wrong!

JugEarsButtHurt on September 6, 2015 at 10:38 AM

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM

Yes. Let’s call that a clarification of what I meant.

Fenris on September 6, 2015 at 10:39 AM

Irony is a dish best served to a Clinton. Killary got herself kicked off the Watergate Commission because she was dishonest and unethical, now she is facing the exact same issue that Nixon faced. Except in Killary’s case, the crime she is covering up, really is likely to be worse than the cover-up.

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 10:39 AM

The styles certainly are different, but I would say that a senator calling the head of his party a liar is sort of ballsy.

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 10:38 AM

Okay, I’ll give him that.

Fenris on September 6, 2015 at 10:40 AM

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM

You’re up early.

HOLY SH%T somebody get AP to do a article on this…….

doriangrey on May 30, 2007 at 9:42 PM

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 10:44 AM

No more political dynasties.

albill on September 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM

You’re up early.

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 10:44 AM

I’m always up at this time of day. Was in the Recording Studio last night, and making another sample video this morning of what we did last night.

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 10:50 AM

As a reluctant Cruz supporter I have a major problem with him. He has no passion. You don’t hear any passion for his beliefs when he speaks. It’s the same old political monotone scripted don’t say anything that’s a gotcha type BS speak. When Reagan spoke he spoke passionately about his conservative beliefs. You knew the guy meant what he said and said what he believed. Cruz doesn’t come across that way, and to me that makes him suspect. That is why I say I reluctantly support him because there is no one else.

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2015 at 10:50 AM

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 10:50 AM

Excellent sound, oscar. Best one yet, in my opinion. I’m looking forward to hearing more.

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 10:56 AM

I just hope if Trump is the eventual nominee, he can resist the pressure ala 1980 to put Bush or Kasich on the ticket as VP to appease the GOPe.

txmomof6 on September 6, 2015 at 10:59 AM

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2015 at 10:50 AM

I just this morning saw this on Twitchy, so I watched it.

It’s long (46:26).

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen Cruz show this much passion, but I haven’t watched a lot of his speeches.

Anyway, if you have the time and are interested…

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 11:02 AM

I just hope if Trump is the eventual nominee, he can resist the pressure ala 1980 to put Bush or Kasich on the ticket as VP to appease the GOPe.

txmomof6 on September 6, 2015 at 10:59 AM

honestly, I wish he’ll agree to put Boobio on the ticket as a way of extending the olive branch to the establishment for their full cooperation. As much of a slimy snake as the Bush-With-A-Tan is, he’s a treasure as a VP and, away from temptations to cooperate with the D’s, he might yet find his conservative legs come 2024.

Rix on September 6, 2015 at 11:02 AM

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 10:50 AM

Excellent sound, oscar. Best one yet, in my opinion. I’m looking forward to hearing more.

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 10:56 AM

The CD isn’t going to be done when originally planned, now I am hoping for a Christmas release time. That was actually supposed to be the first sample released, but it has an 6/8 time signature, which made recording it a bit more problematic than anticipated.

Its an instrumental, and that is the rhythm track.

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 11:05 AM

unless Joe Biden actually gets in the race the polls for the democratic nomination are invalid if Joe Biden in the poll.

I hate Clinton. However subtracting 15 percent-most of which would go to her is ludicrous.

gerrym51 on September 6, 2015 at 11:05 AM

I just hope if Trump is the eventual nominee, he can resist the pressure ala 1980 to put Bush or Kasich on the ticket as VP to appease the GOPe.

txmomof6 on September 6, 2015 at 10:59 AM

I think most of us are hoping he goes with Cruz, and sticks his thumb in the GOP Establishments eye… Again…

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 11:07 AM

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 11:05 AM

It’s coming along well, oscar. I like it.

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 11:09 AM

If a pollster gave me a choice Bush or Clinton i’d pick Bush also.

the choice wasn’t Bush versus Trump.

just saying

gerrym51 on September 6, 2015 at 11:10 AM

I just this morning saw this on Twitchy, so I watched it.

It’s long (46:26).

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen Cruz show this much passion, but I haven’t watched a lot of his speeches.

Anyway, if you have the time and are interested…

jaime on September 6, 2015 at 11:02 AM

Ok just watch some of it and I still don’t see the passion.

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2015 at 11:24 AM

If an NBC poll has hillary losing, the ACTUAL numbers are prolly much worse…

Indiana Jim on September 6, 2015 at 11:33 AM

2016 is done & dusted.
Crown the old dog already.

Judge_Dredd on September 6, 2015 at 11:38 AM

Yes, but…but…but…Trump is the stupid once because he doesn’t know some towel-head’s name, but Hillary is smart because she made a funny about wiping her illegal server with a cloth…

SouthernGent on September 6, 2015 at 11:42 AM

This might be the wrong place for this question.WHY AREN’T ANY OF THE TALKING HEADS OR POLITICAL(SO CALLED) EXPERTS MENTIONING HILLARY’S 33THOUSAND ERASED EMAILS.All I heard this morning on the Sunday shows so far was nothing to see here.

chuckachucka on September 6, 2015 at 11:42 AM

.WHY AREN’T ANY OF THE TALKING HEADS OR POLITICAL(SO CALLED) EXPERTS MENTIONING HILLARY’S 33THOUSAND ERASED EMAILS.All I heard this morning on the Sunday shows so far was nothing to see here.

chuckachucka on September 6, 2015 at 11:42 AM

Because… Shut Up… That’s why.

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 11:47 AM

I would like to know who Ben Carson voted for for president in 2008 and 2012? Cannot find this information anywhere. And to me that may lead to the answer.

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM

She’s a menace to everything in the air

Yes, birds, too.

HugoDrax on September 6, 2015 at 12:03 PM

Gee, I didn’t know people already voted! Polls are always so accurate. Just ask nominees Perry, Guiliani, Hilary and President Romney.

And to bgibbs, I believe Carson said he voted for McCain and Rimney in those two elections. Trump voted for Obama in 2008 and Romney in 2012.

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:04 PM

cries like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:04 PM

Seriously, put an ice pack on that, the bruising is going to be horrible.

oscarwilde on September 6, 2015 at 12:06 PM

Deez Nuts!

Galtian on September 6, 2015 at 12:10 PM

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:04 PM

A thought was posed yesterday. Are you Jenfidel?

Judge_Dredd on September 6, 2015 at 12:10 PM

TED CRUZ SURPRISE AFTER TRUMP WINS STRAW POLL,

BIG STORY FROM NFRA CONVENTION IN NASHVILLE AUGUST 29TH!

Nashville, Tennessee: – Sharron Angle, President of the NFRA, announced this evening at the NFRA banquet that Ted Cruz was the big story. Ted Cruz received the endorsement of Conservative Republicans at the National Federation of Republican Assemblies Presidential Preference Endorsing Convention, held in Nashville on August 29th in Nashville, TN.

Sharron Angle says, “The NFRA vetted all 17 Presidential Candidates based on our principles and values, which are posted at http://www.RepublicanAssemblies.org . Donald Trump was well received by the crowd at Rocketown and won the straw poll, entertaining the hundreds of attendees wishing to hear him. After a thoughtful deliberation and lengthy review of all the candidates, the NFRA membership endorsed Ted Cruz. Donald Trump came in second place, and Scott Walker was third.”

After the Trump “hoopla” died down, Angle encouraged the membership, “We’ve had fun today but now we must be serious. Take care not cast your ballots based on a winning smile, a magnetic personality, or a Chris Matthews ‘tingle up our leg.” In their 2012 endorsing convention in Iowa, Ron Paul enthusiasts crammed the hall to vote for their candidate in the straw poll. Ron Paul won the straw poll that year but, Rick Santorum won the NFRA endorsement. After winning the NFRA endorsement in 2012, Rick Santorum went on to win the Iowa Caucus. The NFRA membership voted by an overwhelming two-thirds majority to endorse Ted Cruz. “We work hard to support the candidates we endorse in all the states, because we are in this to win.”

Americans Across America: Sharron Angle sees the wave coming, “We start early, we work hard. NFRA members vote in primaries! We bring critical thinking to the process of selecting a Presidential candidate. The NFRA members came from Nevada, Florida, Texas, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Alaska, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas, Arizona, Utah, Alabama, Rhode Island, Virginia, California, and others. They went home united for Cruz. We believe our early support will help Ted Cruz surge to a lead just
as Santorum surged in 2012.”

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:12 PM

Wow, is there some way to make sure that everyone who got paid to say stuff like, “Trump will not be the nominee”, and “Trump will not be our next President” no longer gets paid to say anything about politics?

Progressive Heretic on September 6, 2015 at 12:18 PM

A thought was posed yesterday. Are you Jenfidel?

Judge_Dredd on September 6, 2015 at 12:10 PM

Why does everyone think I am someone else. Why is it surprising to you that I support Cruz and think Trump is a joke? According to all the polls on HA, Cruz is the favorite of most on here.

Who I am is someone who has been involved in politics since I was a child and my Mom was a republican precinct leader. I was a state leader in Reagan’s 1980 and 1984 campaigns and have actually worked on many local and state wide campaigns. I am the vice chair of a local Tea Party group. I am a business owner, mother, grandmother and have been married over 30 years to the same man. I am socially conservative, believe that we should not fight in wars that are not in America’s best interest and that we do not intend to win, and think that crony capitalism is destroying the country. I take politics seriously because I have grandchildren that are going to have to live with the America we leave to them. I do opposition type research on candidates. I don’t just believe rhetoric.

That is who I am.

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:25 PM

Why does everyone think I am someone else.
fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:25 PM

Your style is exactly the same?

katy the mean old lady on September 6, 2015 at 12:30 PM

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:25 PM

It never occurred to me until someone else mentioned it. And I don’t remember Jenfidel being banned. But here I am, attacking you, and Jenfidel and I are FB friends. That is until she turned her page off. But the name and image remain. I hate bashing people I once liked. I’m funny that way.

Judge_Dredd on September 6, 2015 at 12:35 PM

Hahahahahaha:

Jeb struggles to recreate ‘inevitability’ of Romney run http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252819-jeb-struggles-to-recreate-inevitability-of-romney-run#.VexsapKuqcQ.twitter

Torcert on September 6, 2015 at 12:43 PM

But okay, I do think Ted Cruz would be infinitely better as President than anyone since Reagan. But he doesn’t have Trump’s pair.

Fenris on September 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM

Cruz has fought the establishment on Obamacare and was blamed for the shutdown. Cruz almost single handedly stopped the gang of eight immigration bill. Cruz held a rally for religious liberty and gave one of the most courageous speeches I have ever heard by any candidate. Remember, we live in a time when it is not PC to be openly advocating for religious freedom, especially Christianity. Cruz basically called Mcconnell a liar on the Senate floor. Before he was a senator, a position he got by beating the establishment candidate endorsed by the Bushes, Cruz was the Solicitor General of Texas and argued nine times before the Supreme Court, winning 5 times. One of those cases, was against the Bush administration and over 30 foreign countries. He won and because of that ruling, maintained state sovereignty from treaties that are not made by Congress.

Doesn’t have a pair like Trump’s? Cruz has a pair made of steel and resolve. Cruz is the one the establishment fears the most because they know he is not just spewing empty rhetoric, like so many of them do.

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:49 PM

I want to see some passion from Cruz when he speaks. He sounds too robotic and stiff.

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2015 at 12:54 PM

I want to see some passion from Cruz when he speaks. He sounds too robotic and stiff.

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2015 at 12:54 PM

How about looking at what a candidate actually stands for and has actually done.

Obama, Hitler and Castro were passionate speakers. How’d that work out?

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:59 PM

katy the mean old lady on September 6, 2015 at 12:30 PM

Sorry, but I don’t know who this woman is. I have also been asked if I am about three other people. I just find it odd.

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 1:02 PM

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:25 PM

but are you jenfidel also? you did not deny it.

gerrym51 on September 6, 2015 at 1:05 PM

How about looking at what a candidate actually stands for and has actually done.

Obama, Hitler and Castro were passionate speakers. How’d that work out?

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:59 PM

They got elected and came to power. That’s how that worked out.

If you believe in something then you are passionate about it. Just spouting out slogans and sentences with no passion doesn’t mean anything. Romney said he was a “severe conservative”. How did that work out?

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2015 at 1:05 PM

But okay, I do think Ted Cruz would be infinitely better as President than anyone since Reagan. But he doesn’t have Trump’s pair.

Fenris on September 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM

Cruz doesn’t have Trump’s pair, hair or flair.

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2015 at 1:08 PM

Sorry, but I don’t know who this woman is. I have also been asked if I am about three other people. I just find it odd.

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 1:02 PM

Yeah. You’re Jenfidel all right. You must have lost your old login like Capella. Well, don’t take any of my bashing or fight like a skirt nonsense personally. We’ll get along once again just as soon as President Trump is inaugurated. The same goes for Mr. Potatoehead and a few others. But Meredith? Forget it. She was a dickwad before and nothing’s changed. Ditto that idiot johanna.

Judge_Dredd on September 6, 2015 at 1:11 PM

they would wipe the floor with her…..like with a cloth!

famous amos on September 6, 2015 at 1:13 PM

Judge_Dredd on September 6, 2015 at 1:11 PM

joanna has been strangely silent. Do you think she finally strangled herself with her pearls?

katy the mean old lady on September 6, 2015 at 1:19 PM

joanna has been strangely silent. Do you think she finally strangled herself with her pearls?

katy the mean old lady on September 6, 2015 at 1:19 PM

No. She’s just recharging her batteries. I hope anyway. I love reading self-professed geniuses.

Judge_Dredd on September 6, 2015 at 1:23 PM

If nothing else, given that he has strong head to heads in Florida as well, it looks like Bush would beat anyone in the Democratic stable of candidates thus far including Biden. The Dems need a savior; but who have they got? Really no one unless you are one of those who think Trump is a Hillary plant and he is her savior.

KW64 on September 6, 2015 at 1:31 PM

$10 says her campaign fund raising will switch subjects from POTUS to DEFENDANT in less than 60 days.

BobMbx on September 6, 2015 at 1:53 PM

Hillary uses the biggest teleprompter I’ve ever seen.

petefrt on September 6, 2015 at 1:55 PM

Ding Dong The Witch Skank Is Dead

Pelosi Schmelosi on September 6, 2015 at 2:06 PM

How are we about to do even worse with a candidate than Mitt Romney on healthcare? The only possible GOP nominee who could be worse than the Governor that oversaw the implementation of Romneycare is one who is in favor of single-payer, nationalized healthcare: Donald Trump.

Also, it doesn’t take guts, stones, kahones, etc. to do what Trump is doing.

Excellent117 on September 6, 2015 at 2:16 PM

Hillary’s White House dreams are not only merely dead,
they’re really most sincerely dead.

Fortyback on September 6, 2015 at 3:43 PM

That is who I am.

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:25 PM

And here I thought you were born a poor black baby.

HonestLib on September 6, 2015 at 3:46 PM

Marxist beats socialist.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2015 at 4:07 PM

Excellent117 on September 6, 2015 at 2:16 PM

You are a charlatanic liar.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2015 at 4:08 PM

Trump voted for Obama in 2008 and Romney in 2012.

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:04 PM

Link, or go cry like a girl some more.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2015 at 4:11 PM

Why does everyone think I am someone else. Why is it surprising to you that I support Cruz and think Trump is a joke? According to all the polls on HA, Cruz is the favorite of most on here.

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 12:25 PM

Trump/Cruz, for many election cycles and years of America, the land of laws and the land for legal Americans.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2015 at 4:16 PM

OT, Love the pic of HILLARY! doing her Vince Foster imitation.”This is what he looked like…”

gbear on September 6, 2015 at 5:05 PM

The Dems need a savior; but who have they got? Really no one unless you are one of those who think Trump is a Hillary plant and he is her savior.
KW64 on September 6, 2015 at 1:31 PM

There’s always !Jeb!

smokeyblonde on September 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2015

…if you see this…I think hussy was on the football thread! (:->)

JugEarsButtHurt on September 6, 2015 at 6:48 PM

I was wrong. Trump started out supporting Hilary but then endorsed McCain in 2008. He did say that Obama would be a good president though and supported many of his policies in his first term.

Schadenfreude, I am getting a little tired of your juvenile sexist remarks. Grow the F up!

fight like a girl on September 6, 2015 at 8:05 PM

Hillary’s White House dreams are not only merely dead,
they’re really most sincerely dead.

Fortyback on September 6, 2015 at 3:43 PM

Not to worry.

Tlaloc has repeatedly assured us that the Queen’s coronation will occur unhindered.

Star Bird on September 6, 2015 at 10:09 PM

The Ds fully exposed, finally, as a Socialist party if they run Sanders.

Carnac on September 7, 2015 at 7:50 AM

The reason why the NBC News/Marist Poll did not ask about Ben Carson may be found in the letters “NBC”. It is not in the interest of Comcast, the parent company of NBC and a wholly dependable subsidiary of the Democratic Party, to inform the public that a black conservative is running so well for the GOP nomination.

J Baustian on September 8, 2015 at 11:16 PM