Depressing poll of the day: Public opinion of Planned Parenthood basically unchanged after videos

posted at 7:21 pm on August 5, 2015 by Allahpundit

I was just thinking yesterday: Despite Obama’s disastrous Iran deal, Trumpmania wrecking the GOP’s presidential field, and the fact that I’ll be stuck watching the season finale of “True Detective” on Sunday night, life hasn’t been nearly as discouraging as this eeyore would like lately.

Fortunately, there’s always good ol’ YouGov to give me a shot of despair when I need one.

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Barely a flutter in the polls despite weeks of news about PP doctors chattering about selling dismembered baby parts. There seemed to be two likely explanations for that. One: The word wasn’t getting out to the broader public. This is a story that most mainstream reporters are verrrrry uncomfortable with given how it challenges the orthodoxy of their preferred political party. They’re not going to cover it, and you can’t move the polls if the only place to find this story is on right-wing blogs. Two: Even among those who have heard about the videos, the absence of any smoking gun of criminal behavior is giving PP fans a cognitive “out” to continue supporting them. Sure, they’ll crush a baby’s chest cavity just right to preserve the liver for sale, and sure, it’s unclear precisely how well informed its patients are about that, but there’s no law against it if it’s for research purposes, is there? Well, there you go. What’s on TV?

Mollie Hemingway argues that the first explanation accounts for the stasis in public opinion. I’m sure that’s true — but not to the extent we’d all like. Behold:

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Only 30 percent have heard a lot about the PP videos — but frankly, that’s more than I would have guessed, and yet all we see is a measly five-point shift in public opinion against PP since last year. Another 38 percent have heard “a little” about the videos. “A little” can mean anything, but even something as small as a headline in this case — “Planned Parenthood Doctors Caught on Camera Discussing Sale of Baby Parts” — could be shocking enough to move opinion. And yet … just five points. Huh. When asked if they’d seen at least a little of the videos themselves, nearly half (45 percent) said yes; again, I’d guess that if you’ve seen a clip, it’s probably a clip of the more shocking stuff, like one of the doctors joking about buying a Lamborghini from the proceeds of sale of baby parts. And yet … just five points. The good news is that, at that rate, saturation media coverage of PP would doubtless put a real dent in the group’s public approval. The bad news is that even 30 percent awareness, I would have thought, would put a real dent in it. Hasn’t happened. How come?

Maybe the other explanation accounts for it. Say what you will about PP but they can claim (for now) that they weren’t breaking any laws. There’s a problem with that theory too, though:

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A majority of those who’ve heard “a little” about the videos think Planned Parenthood did break the law. And yet … just five points. Still 50/36 in terms of overall favorability (45/30 in the recent NBC/WSJ poll) and 56/32 among women. If you think Mitch McConnell’s reluctant to shut down the government over PP now, wait until he sees these numbers.

Let me gently suggest an additional explanation for why the numbers haven’t moved much: Maybe most Planned Parenthood fans don’t care what the group is doing with dead babies.

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We’re talking about the biggest abortion provider in America, responsible for 40 percent of all terminations by some estimates, and among those who view the group favorably, abortion doesn’t even crack the top three of what it’s best known for. You can explain that any way you like — as outright denial, as ignorance of how huge PP’s abortion business is, as a success of Democratic/feminist spin about what “women’s health” requires, as a legit assessment made by people who’ve used PP’s services, or as some mix of all of them. Either way, it may be that most PP supporters value the rest of their operation so highly that they’re willing to give them carte blanche on the less … pleasant aspects of their business. Even for an eeyore, that’s a depressing conclusion.


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MarshFox!!!

Bmore on August 6, 2015 at 10:39 AM

Just goes to show you the power of our Orwellian DNC controlled media.

Old Country Boy on August 6, 2015 at 8:21 AM

Yes. Sooner or later, who owns and controls the mass media has to change, or America is going down the gurgler.

David Blue on August 6, 2015 at 10:45 AM

Okay . . . . . but what did Odin say, or reveal to you, when you prayed to him?
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listens2glenn on August 6, 2015 at 10:20 AM

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I don’t think prayer is a good use of my time when people have to trick themselves into thinking they got an answer. If I want to know what Odin would say, I’d read the Eddas.

I was merely asking which god, since there are so many and so many that are supported by much evidence, popularity, and fervor.
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antisense on August 6, 2015 at 10:38 AM

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“Dodge !” . . . . .

How much TIME does it take to bow your head, and say “Odin (or Allah, or Buddha, or Jesus, or [insert your deity of choice, here]), please show yourself real to me … show me that you ‘exist.'” …?

listens2glenn on August 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM

How do you know for sure that you wouldn’t get an answer? Have you ever tried?

blink on August 6, 2015 at 11:43 AM

Sure, he tried. He asked for a million dollars, and nothing showed up, so it’s obviously bunk.

CurtZHP on August 6, 2015 at 11:49 AM

Time to buy some fetus parts…

The Nerve on August 6, 2015 at 12:09 PM

you.gov poll… and your point is?

All polls are, effectively, bogus, but you.gov goes beyond bogus to just plain useless.

Nevertheless, the fact is that the mainstream media is whitewashing the whole PP thing. It is a sick country we live in when the convenience of abortion as birth control trumps the truth of what it is, killing of human life.

But leftist democrats are happy. They can do what they want, when the want and to hell with the consequences. The hypocrisy of the left always looms large.

Neitherleftorright on August 6, 2015 at 12:30 PM

Most of the people who have seen a little or a lot about the videos have already made up their minds for or against PP. You had to seek out coverage because it wasn’t going to be foisted on you.

In the disqus conversations I’ve had with pro-PP commenters, it’s pretty clear that PP could have a price list for baby parts on their website and they’d still support them.

moflicky on August 6, 2015 at 1:05 PM

blink. Aug 06, 2015 at 11:42 am

I’m not going to waste my time responding to ridiculous hypotheticals that have no resemblance to the situation at hand. The notion that PP was/is profiting from the sale of body parts is equally ridiculous, which is why the “sting” videos have gained no traction with anyone but those who were already opposed to abortion in the first place.

See:http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/

cam2 on August 6, 2015 at 1:42 PM

If you want to stop what PP is shown to be doing in the videos, introduce legislation to ban the use of donated fetal tissue in research, instead of posturing about defunding and government shutdowns. Of course, you wouldn’t be able to pass it, any more than you’ll be able to pass an amendment overturning Roe v. Wade, but at least it would show you to be serious.

rongoodman on August 6, 2015 at 1:48 PM

’m not going to waste my time responding to ridiculous hypotheticals that have no resemblance to the situation at hand. The notion that PP was/is profiting from the sale of body parts is equally ridiculous, which is why the “sting” videos have gained no traction with anyone but those who were already opposed to abortion in the first place.

See:http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/

cam2 on August 6, 2015 at 1:42 PM

They aren’t rediculous. They are the logical endpoint of “every child a wanted child”.

unclesmrgol on August 6, 2015 at 2:07 PM

The notion that PP was/is profiting from the sale of body parts is equally ridiculous, which is why the “sting” videos have gained no traction with anyone but those who were already opposed to abortion in the first place.

cam2 on August 6, 2015 at 1:42 PM

Normal disposal of medical waste of any kind is a venture that has specific guidelines and a corresponding cost. Similar to the way you can’t just throw your CRT monitor in a dumpster (probably not your flatscreen either).

Any effort to convert that into something even cost-neutral is a previously-untapped revenue stream.

Additionally, what costs are they covering if the lab is paying them to take the material off their hands? If the lab is absorbing the cost to acquire, then they have a cost and PP has nothing.

Lastly, if there was some kind of “cost” involved in you giving something to someone else at their cost, you would know what amount of expense you have for that process, and would charge accordingly. Negotiating for price is not something you do to cover a known, fixed expense.

The Schaef on August 6, 2015 at 2:33 PM

Lastly, if there was some kind of “cost” involved in you giving something to someone else at their cost, you would know what amount of expense you have for that process, and would charge accordingly. Negotiating for price is not something you do to cover a known, fixed expense.

The Schaef on August 6, 2015 at 2:33 PM

No, but it is something you do to make a profit. We are seeing unbridled capitalism of the type that liberals claim to detest in full swing here.

unclesmrgol on August 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM

The notion that PP was/is profiting from the sale of body parts is equally ridiculous, which is why the “sting” videos have gained no traction with anyone but those who were already opposed to abortion in the first place.

cam2 on August 6, 2015 at 1:42 PM

It is sad that in this modern generation, people like Dr. Mengele or even Dr. Kermit Gosnell don’t raise an eyebrow.

This is national socialism at work.

unclesmrgol on August 6, 2015 at 3:06 PM

The problem is that due to the media blackout most people have not seen the videos.
I wonder what the polling would have looked like if it was restricted to just people who had seen all of the videos that have been released at this point?

Another Drew on August 6, 2015 at 3:52 PM

It is sad that in this modern generation, people like Dr. Mengele or even Dr. Kermit Gosnell don’t raise an eyebrow.

This is national socialism at work.

unclesmrgol on August 6, 2015 at 3:06 PM

Gosnell was arrested for his crimes. He was tried and convicted of at least 3 murder charges. It was a big deal in the media precisely because what he did was reprehensible.

This “scandal” on other hand has uncovered nothing.

That that people aren’t gullible enough to go for your ‘scandal’ is not national socialism at work, sorry.

Tlaloc on August 6, 2015 at 4:03 PM

That that people aren’t gullible enough to go for your ‘scandal’ is not national socialism at work, sorry.

Tlaloc on August 6, 2015 at 4:03 PM

Wow, I agree with something Tlaloc the ghoul wrote. It isn’t socialism. What is at work is the demonic. Sadly, the people unmoved by this scandal have embraced that. Sold their souls for a little convenience.

It can’t be much longer now.

Romans 1

pannw on August 6, 2015 at 4:18 PM

Here is a question. Why does the federal government provide any funds to any company whether for profit or non-profit. i.e. Planned Parenthood. It is not for them to choose winners and losers or to fund them.

Dasher on August 6, 2015 at 4:19 PM

what he did was reprehensible.

Tiaioc on August 6, 2015 at 4:03 PM

What did he do that was reprehensible?

blink on August 6, 2015 at 4:25 PM

Exactly.

The Schaef on August 6, 2015 at 5:23 PM

Good luck getting him to answer any questions related to his assertions. there literally is a laundry list going back months. And he’s practically doubled the number of outstanding questions on the abortion issue alone.

The Schaef on August 6, 2015 at 8:48 PM

I already do that to a small extent, with about a half dozen of note that I have asked. I haven’t added any if his outstanding action questions to the list (yet?) but I did give him a “once and for all” challenge in order to reduce the entire affair to a single linked post.

You’re welcome to try as it suits you, but he drops his bombs and then bails on thread after thread after thread do don’t expect much progress. He probably has been off this thread for at least nine hours, never to return.

The Schaef on August 7, 2015 at 6:46 AM

I didn’t get an answer. I’d really like to know what Gosnell did that Tiaioc thinks was reprehensible.

blink on August 6, 2015 at 7:32 PM

What tlaloc thinks is reprehensible is that Gosnell either flushed or froze the remains when he could have made some bucks off of them as PP did.

F X Muldoon on August 7, 2015 at 8:51 AM

Or maybe the complaints that he wasn’t storing children’s vaccinations in a proper, sanitary manner.

The Schaef on August 7, 2015 at 9:31 AM