Obama orders 30% cut in CO2 emissions in new EPA rule change

posted at 10:41 am on August 3, 2015 by Ed Morrissey

If you like your electricity, you can keep your electricity. The White House announced the release of his “Clean Power Plan” late yesterday, which plans to cut carbon emissions from power plants in the US by 30%. Obama promised in his own message that this would result in lower energy prices, which sounds very similar to the promises made with ObamaCare — that later turned out to be the Lies of the Year once implemented:

The Obama administration on Monday will issue rules to cut carbon emissions from U.S. power plants, a move designed to secure the president’s legacy on climate and one which has already influenced the campaigns of those who want to succeed him.

The Environmental Protection Agency will finalize measures that promise to upend a century of electrical power generation, as it prods states and utilities to use less coal and more wind, solar and natural gas. The plan, estimated to cost $8.4 billion, is among the most complex in agency history and is expected to face a series of contentious legal challenges from states and coal producers.

Elements of the plan were released Sunday by the White House, ahead of the full roll-out. The rules are designed, in part, to put the U.S. on track to meet the goal President Barack Obama laid out as part of negotiations for a global accord on climate change. Those talks are set to conclude this at the Paris climate conference in December.

“It’s time for America, and the world, to act on climate change,” Obama said in a video message released on the White House Twitter feed.

The White House tweeted out a video message from the President on his new front in the War on Coal:

Compare this to Obama’s more honest assessment of the impact of capping carbon emissions in January 2008. Electricity prices would “necessarily skyrocket,” Obama told the San Francisco Chronicle’s editorial board:

But what’s skyrocketing prices next to crafting a “legacy”? The Hill notes that Obama’s plan “doubles down” on climate change policy:

The Obama administration on Sunday unveiled a tougher climate change rule for power plants, demanding that generators cut their carbon dioxide output 32 percent in the first ever limits on the pollutant.

The historic regulation from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is the main pillar of President Obama’s climate agenda. It is the biggest piece of his drive to create a legacy and go down in history as the first United States president to take comprehensive action against climate change by cutting emissions of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide. …

Compared with the carbon limits the EPA proposed last year, the final rule is 9 percent more stringent than the 30 percent cut originally envisioned.

It delays the first round of carbon goals to 2022 from 2020, a move that the White House said would result in far more renewable energy like wind and solar and less natural gas replacing coal, which is currently the dominant fuel for electricity.

We’ve been chasing the renewables dragon for more than forty years now, and we’re no closer to having the capacity to replace coal than we have been. The Energy Information Administration shows coal playing a smaller role than five years ago, but it still accounts for 30% of all electricity — and it has been largely due to a rise in natural-gas production, not renewables. In May 2015, the EIA noted that the strategy to replace coal has focused on natural gas, not renewables, which still only account for a small fraction of electricity generated in the US.

Last month, the EIA noted that solar power only accounted for 0.8% of US electricity. They expect a 90% expansion of solar panels by the end of next year, which would then produce enough electricity to supply 1.5% of the country’s consumption. Even now, the use of renewables along with nuclear power account for only 16% of all electricity generated, and most of that comes from nuclear power. Two-thirds of our electricity comes from hydrocarbon sources, and at least half of that is coal.

The only way to “replace” coal with current or short-term-foreseeable technology, therefore, is to force coal out by regulation and impose a reduction in the consumption of electricity. That will indeed make prices “necessarily skyrocket,” and it will be the working- and middle-class families that bear the brunt of the massive costs it will create — not just in their utility bills, but across the board. Energy costs are a force multiplier in economies, impacting prices at every stage of distribution.

Get ready for another Politifact Lie of the Year, but we won’t get that ruling until Obama has long retired from office.

 


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Hill60 on August 3, 2015 at 11:44 AM

Obviously, the solution will be where the Dept of the Interior will purchase coal at the same rate (with US tax dollars). The coal will be loaded onto barges and then dumped at sea.

1. Keeps the red people employed
2. Denies energy to America
3. Takes more money away from working Americans

In the WH, that is a WIN-WIN.

BobMbx on August 3, 2015 at 1:07 PM

… as it prods states and utilities to use less coal and more wind …

Golden eagle rescued by San Ramon Valley firefighters killed by wind turbine …

http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_28568978/golden-eagle-rescued-by-san-ramon-valley-firefighters-dies-after-being-released-into-wild

Pork-Chop on August 3, 2015 at 1:08 PM

Congress should de-fund the EPA. They can’t enforce this without $.

Steve Z on August 3, 2015 at 1:14 PM

The states should nullify this unconstitutional act. A governor worth his salt would issue his own EO proclaiming that all energy producing institutions in his state will not abide. Make Obama send in troops to force his carbon reduction. It’s time to stop complying with every dictate from Washington.

Meat Fighter on August 3, 2015 at 1:24 PM

We’ve been chasing the renewables dragon for more than forty years now

PHOOE! We had a nuclear fusion project about sixty years ago, which lasted several decades. If successful, electricity would cost a small fraction of its current cost. There would be a very small amount of contaminated equipment waste.

burt on August 3, 2015 at 1:35 PM

Maybe NASA can go to the moon and bring back a shuttle bay sized amount of that energy source mentioned in the Moon movie for a fraction of the cost. Heck make a drone to do it with a bucket of the stuff just to power Houston.

timoric on August 3, 2015 at 1:47 PM

LOL, loonies in the NE legislating and regulating their own doom…hahahahahaha!

Obama’s legacy will be a decade of black-outs on the coasts. The tricky part will be figuring out how to make it the Republican’s fault.

Geministorm on August 3, 2015 at 2:29 PM

Burt. First of all, it’s PHOOEY. Secondly, can you cite sources for your comment???

Indiana Jim on August 3, 2015 at 2:35 PM

Doesn’t this make it illegal to exhale ?

SteveLandess on August 3, 2015 at 2:36 PM

It will be tied up in the courts day one so his victory lap will be short lived our President a$$hole…..

sorrowen on August 3, 2015 at 12:01 PM

Excellent point…

mnjg on August 3, 2015 at 2:36 PM

Next winter, when you go to turn on the heat and nothing happens…

… don’t worry. Obama will have enough heat to spare.

Seven Percent Solution on August 3, 2015 at 2:43 PM

Jim, My former roommate, a physicist worked on the project his whole professional career. I do not have a reference.

burt on August 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM

Burt. I was just curious because you said “if successful” and several decades. Does that mean it turned out to be a failure or did the big electric companies some how make it go away???

Indiana Jim on August 3, 2015 at 2:52 PM

obama hates you and your jobs.

Schadenfreude on August 3, 2015 at 3:07 PM

Congress should de-fund the EPA. They can’t enforce this without $.

Steve Z on August 3, 2015 at 1:14 PM

Congress should do a whole lot of things.. but they don’t and they won’t.

And why should they? Government by ‘divide and conquer’ and ‘manufactured crisis de jour’ is working out great – for them. The govt is getting more powerful than ever and their cronies are getting richer faster than ever…

This is not a “Democrat” v. “Republican” thing anymore. The GOPe capitulated after the 2012 election and are back-filling the Democrats as they shift to the far left.

The only issue that matters is Power – and how it is distributed between the government and the people. Power is a zero-sum matter between the people and their government and government is taking every iota of power it can from us and will not look back. And they swear it’s for our own good.

When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence. – Gary Lloyd

DrDeano on August 3, 2015 at 3:10 PM

Why wouldn’t the Supreme Court’s recent decision that the EPA must consider costs (http://www.scotusblog.com/2015/06/opinion-analysis-power-plants-stymie-smokestack-controls/) not apply to this?

Dan Tanna on August 3, 2015 at 3:11 PM

We’ll soon be riding stationary bikes to generate electricity like Edward G. Robinson in Solyent Green. I never dreamed I’d live long enough to see every Sci fi dystopian nightmare come true, but we’re almost there.

polly2150 on August 3, 2015 at 11:21 AM

Planned Parenthood has a patent on the ingredients to soylent green.

bigGwillie on August 3, 2015 at 3:13 PM

He should have looked at charts on how much the economy is reducing CO2 emissions on its own and matched the trend line and used his political skills to make it all sound good. I recall it is somethink like 20 percent less anyhow without any grand mandate. America means business. Don’t screw with that no matter what party you are in. If the receipts don’t come in no more government spending on defense OR social programs.

timoric on August 3, 2015 at 3:22 PM

Polly. Lol. One of my favorite movies. I guess its better than riding a bicycle around in a circle to get the dentist drill to work. (Gilligans island) :-D

Indiana Jim on August 3, 2015 at 3:26 PM

bigG. I thought keebler had the patent. :-D

Indiana Jim on August 3, 2015 at 3:28 PM

I can’t wait until the nimrods decide to outlaw CO2 producers or heavily fine anything that produces CO2. (Lunatics on parade)

xmanvietnam on August 3, 2015 at 4:23 PM

I don’t understand why businesses never seem to grasp the idea that *they* can be the ones who go on strike.

If, this week, all coal-fired plants shut down as a demonstration of what life would be like without coal, it would go a long way to shutting this down.

HakerA on August 3, 2015 at 10:49 AM
That is exactly what should happen, the howl, cry, screaming from Americans just Might be enough to give congress some backbone to fight this insanity. Americans do not want to be the sacrificial lamb on the alter of the EPA ECONazis. I would like to see the WH surrounded by angry Americans who do not want to return to living in the 18th century.

Bakokitty on August 3, 2015 at 4:53 PM

I can’t wait until the nimrods decide to outlaw CO2 producers or heavily fine anything that produces CO2. (Lunatics on parade)

xmanvietnam on August 3, 2015 at 4:23 PM
Well, we better sharpen our axe blades, we have a lot of trees to fell! //

Bakokitty on August 3, 2015 at 4:56 PM

Doesn’t this make it illegal to exhale ?

SteveLandess on August 3, 2015 at 2:36 PM
Only if you inhaled, or could you use the excuse”I never inhaled”?
The idiocracy of the left denying the science of the Krebs cycle, that most of us learned in the 8th grade, defies belief. We are,I fear bit players in the real life remake of the movie Idiocracy

Bakokitty on August 3, 2015 at 5:07 PM

He should be ARRESTED on sight.

ConstantineXI on August 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM
That he still walks on this earth amazes me.////
That congress still refuses to do their sworn oath amazes me.
That the military can’t or won’t keep their sworn oath to defend this country from enemies from within and without still amazes me.
That we Americans still lay down like a cowering dog and take this crap, saddens me.

Bakokitty on August 3, 2015 at 5:16 PM

CO2 is a plant food.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 3, 2015 at 6:34 PM

Mankind eats plants.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 3, 2015 at 6:35 PM

Cows and chickens and hogs and fish eat plants.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 3, 2015 at 6:35 PM

Mankind eats cows, chickens, hogs and fish.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 3, 2015 at 6:36 PM

The Climate Change Cult is at the core a death cult.

They lie.

Lies kill.

Seek truth or die.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 3, 2015 at 6:36 PM

Obama is hate, nothing else.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 3, 2015 at 6:37 PM

Obama orders 30% cut in CO2 emissions in new EPA rule change

And the Obamassiah said let there be light, and there was light…

And so on and so forth.

farsighted on August 3, 2015 at 6:39 PM

Climate Change is the Commie Democrats “DEATH STAR” and it is aimed at U S All. The lunatic who has his finger on the Death Star trigger is Obama and his hate makes the lust to pull the trigger impossible to resist.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 3, 2015 at 6:39 PM

Do not forgive them for they know it is lies and fraud.

Do not forgive them for they know the evil they do.

Do not forgive for it is your death they seek.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 3, 2015 at 6:41 PM

CO2 Death Cult.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 3, 2015 at 6:42 PM

CO2 is a pollutant!
Folks no less technically astute as the United State Supreme Court have adjudicated such!

Plants don’t need CO2 to make carbohydrates. Do they?

But carbohydrates are FOOD.

WE don’t need FOOD. Do we?

Climate is CHANGE.
That’s why King Putt, needing distraction after distraction, will keep this crap up for the next 535 days.

S T U P I D A M E R I C A N S

Missilengr on August 3, 2015 at 6:45 PM

PHOOE! We had a nuclear fusion project about sixty years ago, which lasted several decades. If successful, electricity would cost a small fraction of its current cost. There would be a very small amount of contaminated equipment waste.

burt on August 3, 2015 at 1:35 PM

BS. The Princeton Plasma Physics Lab has been operating for over fifty years with government funds and has produced nothing but hot air.

alanstern on August 3, 2015 at 7:37 PM

It is hard to imagine Romney doing this. So, thanks again for saying “they are all the same” and not voting. We pay for your stupidity. We will continue to pay, and pay and pay.

CoolHandLuke on August 3, 2015 at 7:58 PM

When coal and gas are eliminated as viable sources of fuel to power this nation we will finally be the utopia (third world hell hole) that the progs have always wanted. I really can’t wait for the rolling brown outs/black outs and I hope they come on the hottest and coldest weeks of the year. Yes I am that vindictive. Those electric prices that skyrocket will never come down either because the coal industry that survives will be owned by probably one or two companies and I can assure you they will set their pricing based on demand. Enjoy America, elections like ideas have consequences.

FluffyOne on August 3, 2015 at 10:05 PM

Oh yeah another coal company filled bankruptcy today. Keep winnowing them out and we’ll have a monopoly before long.

FluffyOne on August 3, 2015 at 10:07 PM

Will his attacks on America ever stop? Using his old tactic of mentioning children and grandchildren, and having some asthma patients in the audience won’t work this time. His abuse of power and overreach will end up in the courts where he has not done well. Reminder – he is not a dictator.

Amazingoly on August 4, 2015 at 9:46 AM

Reminder – he is not a dictator.

Amazingoly on August 4, 2015 at 9:46 AM

In what particulars is he different?

GrumpyOldFart on August 4, 2015 at 10:41 AM

I can remember the days, during the Reagan Administration, when Democrats were screaming about closing American plants and plants opening overseas. At the time, they felt these rich companies should be forced to spending millions of dollars doing what Democrats want them to do, overpay their workers, and be regulated to death, yet not move overseas. Well companies didn’t like what the Democrats did so they closed and moved.

Now, we have a President who is willing, once again, to forfeit American jobs based on his unicorn environmental policy, and send more jobs to China so that, opening one coal fired plant a week won’t be enough for all the business they’re going to have and they’ll end up building more, which will make our efforts even more futile.

The Democrats do not care about the United States of America. They only care about their liberal agenda and consider people out of work, dividing the country, and keeping as much power as they can. Luckily, this President is not all that smart. By the time these policies can be put in place, the next President can overturn all of them and put sensible policies in place. Had Obama done this legislatively, it would have been a lot more difficult to reverse it.

The Next president, should just close down EPA and the Department of Energy, along with the Department of Education. Then, once that is done, completely dismantle the Democrats Department of Justice and IRS and decertify all government employee unions. This will be the beginning of putting the country back together again and growth will follow.

bflat879 on August 4, 2015 at 11:12 AM

It is hard to imagine Romney doing this. So, thanks again for saying “they are all the same” and not voting. We pay for your stupidity. We will continue to pay, and pay and pay.

CoolHandLuke on August 3, 2015 at 7:58 PM

They are the same. Oboobie does it to you directly from the front and Mittness will do it indirectly from behind, end result is the same, albeit at a different rate of progress.

Still glad I didn’t vote for him, else the GOPe would claim they have a mandate to cap and trade. For now, it’s just the dems and their GOPe enablers. You know they would never shutdown the EPA, instead negotiate us further leftward to prove they can get things done.

AH_C on August 4, 2015 at 3:48 PM