McCain: Trump really fired up “the crazies” in Arizona with his immigration talk

posted at 11:21 am on July 16, 2015 by Allahpundit

If there are any votes left among tea-party border hawks that haven’t already migrated (temporarily) to Trump, this ought to shake them loose.

To think, there are conservatives out there in America today who are convinced their party’s elder statesmen view them with contempt.

“It’s very bad,” McCain, who was eager to talk about Trump, told me on Monday when I stopped by his Senate office. The Senator is up for reëlection in 2016 and he pays close attention to how the issue of immigration is playing in his state. He was particularly rankled by Trump’s rally. “This performance with our friend out in Phoenix is very hurtful to me,” McCain said. “Because what he did was he fired up the crazies.”…

“We’ll see how this plays out, but there is some anger in my state,” McCain said. He mentioned the continuing challenges of border security that were vividly highlighted when tens of thousands of Central American minors crossed into America last summer. “People who otherwise might be more centrist are angry about this border situation.”

Normally I’d assume McCain’s grouchy because Trump’s rise is another setback for his dream of a new legislative amnesty but this probably has more to do with petty electoral concerns. His boy Lindsey Graham is at risk of being bumped off the presidential debate stage by Trump and McCain himself could face a tougher than expected primary challenge in Arizona if Trumpmentum spills over and galvanizes an “oust Maverick” surge on the right there. In fact, if Trump wants to earn a little goodwill from some of his conservative critics, he should promise to campaign against McCain in the primary next year, replete with donations to his challenger. There’s no better way to prove you’re anti-establishment than by targeting ol’ Mav for political destruction. And if McCain’s counting on the fact of Trump’s unpopularity to help him out, he should reconsider: At least among Republicans, that unpopularity is no longer a fact. Trump’s gone from being viewed unfavorably by 65 percent of GOPers two months ago to being viewed favorably by 57 percent today. He has a big-name fan too in former Gov. Jan Brewer, who applauded Trump last week for “telling it like it really, truly is” on immigration. All he needs to do is stay engaged with this issue and Republican politics for the next nine months or so. Which means … yeah, McCain’s probably at no risk.

A better politician than Maverick would pause to reflect that “the crazies” could guarantee Democratic victory next year if they’re disaffected and that, rather than insult them, GOP chieftains might want to co-opt some of their concerns about immigration. Jonathan Last sees Trump as potentially another Perot if things don’t change:

Donald Trump–the Donald Trump–holds in his hands something like veto power over the Republican quest to win the White House. Sit with that for a moment…

Republican strategists (and their candidates) ought to understand that Republican voters care a lot about immigration. And yet, the attitude of the GOP establishment towards these folks seems to be, as Mickey Kaus jokes, they just “cling to their rage about immigration because they can’t get what they really want: Low capital gains taxes.”…

Donald Trump has the special kind of invulnerability that comes when you mix money with the incapacity for either reflection or shame. As such, he can’t be beaten or cowed.

But the coalition that is supporting him right now could be adopted by a better politician. And if it isn’t, the 2016 math gets pretty bleak.

What we need, says Last, is a candidate who’s broadly in favor of immigration yet candid about the fact that it comes with costs to the rule of law, to public safety, and of course to wages. Every Republican in the field would acknowledge that if pressed, but the only ones who seem remotely eager to discuss it are Cruz and Scott Walker and Walker may well clam up the moment the nomination’s secure. The core problem with Trump’s candidacy for Republican leaders is that, by consolidating a subset of the right around strong borders, he’s raising the cost of the party’s inevitable pander to amnesty fans in hopes of winning a greater share of the Latino vote. That was supposed to be a relatively low-cost transaction for the GOP: The nominee, be it Bush or Rubio or whoever, would check the requisite boxes about opposing sanctuary cities and jailing criminal aliens in the primaries and then shift instantly to hosannas about the economic and cultural dynamism of immigration in the general. By building a fan base on the right and positioning himself as a potential Perot figure, Trump makes that much harder. Winning elections requires selling out the Republican base. Doesn’t Trump understand that?

McCain does. I nearly choked on my coffee this morning reading this passage from the New Yorker piece quoted above:

McCain, who had a testy relationship with Senator Marco Rubio, another member of the Gang of Eight who is running for President, couldn’t resist adding, “Rubio backed away from it.”

I noted that Rubio, like many other Republican politicians, has been hard to follow on the issue and no longer supports the compromise approach that the Gang of Eight took in 2013: combining a pathway to citizenship and tough new border measures in a single bill. McCain licked his finger, held it up in the air, and laughed.

This guy is mocking other Republicans for twisting in the wind on immigration? What?


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Andy_B

You should aim at the true non voters who never vote.

They built this.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 16, 2015 at 12:32 PM

The first thing that I thought of was the speech by Ten Bears in “The Outlaw Josey Wales”

“It’s sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues”

bandutski on July 16, 2015 at 12:33 PM

As KING OF THE CRAZIES he would know. I still remember when he was dumb enough to think that the media actually liked him because of his moderate stance. When, in fact, they only had him on to trash Republicans, those that he did not deserve to clean their jock strap, I mean he and Lindsy Grahamesty are both lovers of the left.

pwb on July 16, 2015 at 12:34 PM

Recon5 on July 16, 2015 at 12:25 PM

If you’re going to rag on Trump at least don’t lie, unless you’re a progressive republican then I’ll just ignore you along witht he rest of the traitors.

Trump is not for gun control. A simple search will show you that. If you aren’t going to be honest and accurate in your shit flinging you shouldn’t post at all. It’s too easy to out liars and lazy asses these days don’t you think? (Google it, Bing it, etc., even simpletons can do it, which means only the lazy pig progressives lie like that or just spout party line talking points without researching them first).

Andy__B on July 16, 2015 at 12:34 PM

Retire already…

PatriotRider on July 16, 2015 at 11:25 AM

Hell, his mother is 135 and still kicking. He’s just hitting his stride.

Saverio on July 16, 2015 at 12:35 PM

Immigration reform will never happen with a establishment candidate.

The Establishment Chamber of Commerce wants cheap labor, and the Dems want the votes.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on July 16, 2015 at 12:36 PM

That should be

“It’s sad that governments are chiefed by the devil tongues”

bandutski on July 16, 2015 at 12:36 PM

Andy_B

You should aim at the true non voters who never vote.

They built this.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 16, 2015 at 12:32 PM

Yes and no.

It’s up to the candidate to get the people fired up enough to at LEAST get to the polls and pick a lever to pull. These days people are getting lazier and lazier. If you don’t give them good reason to vote, they wont. McCain and Romney didn’t. THEY gave us obama.

Andy__B on July 16, 2015 at 12:37 PM

Saying that the fact that a female illegal alien has a 70% chance of having been raped at least once by the time she gets here suggests the presence of criminals among illegals and those who facilitate them is “crazy”…

‘Nuff said, Senator.

GrumpyOldFart on July 16, 2015 at 12:37 PM

How old is his fat stupid daughter? Old enough to run for Senate yet?

ConstantineXI on July 16, 2015 at 11:26 AM

Very impressive rack, but yeah she’s a bit short on the content upstairs.

Rix on July 16, 2015 at 12:37 PM

Sad to think I voted for this clown in 2008..

celt on July 16, 2015 at 12:06 PM

I voted for his running mate.

ToddPA on July 16, 2015 at 12:38 PM

Hey Arizona, stop re-electing this old taint toucher and put him out to shambling acres retirement community plz k thx

Sugarbuzz on July 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM

Allahpundit: If there are any votes left among tea-party border hawks that haven’t already migrated (temporarily) to Trump, this ought to shake them loose.

No Allah, the “hawks” are the ones supporting effectively open-borders, floods of cheap-illegal-labor and a steady invasion by murderers and rapists and probably terrorists.

The “hawks” are the ones condescending to those who actually believe in the rule of law. The people who know that one of government’s primary jobs is to protect American citizens from invasion – even if that invasion makes rich-cronies richer and politicians more powerful.

DrDeano on July 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM

Immigration reform will never happen with a establishment candidate.

The Establishment Chamber of Commerce wants cheap labor, and the Dems want the votes.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on July 16, 2015 at 12:36 PM

I’m not sure where you’ve been, but “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” was and is fully supported by the Chamber of Commerce.

“Comprehensive Immigration Reform” was designed to continue the flood of illegal immigrants – the only net difference is the flood would deemed “legal” and handed work-permits and put on a “pathway to citizenship”.

DrDeano on July 16, 2015 at 12:46 PM

Doesn’t the crazy, old coot realize that he is up for re-election next year and it’s time to start acting like a fake conservative? Senator Senile is really losing it,

bw222 on July 16, 2015 at 12:47 PM

Time to get rid of McCain. He is a liability to Arizona, not an asset. He’s one of the Rhino Kings……

Ellen85219 on July 16, 2015 at 12:48 PM

When will this loser shut his trap. Maybe Jeb will pick him for VP.

alanstern on July 16, 2015 at 12:49 PM

John McCain, the one man in America who would have made an even worse President that Barack Obama.

VorDaj on July 16, 2015 at 12:50 PM

John McCain, the one man in America who would have made an even worse President that Barack Obama.

VorDaj on July 16, 2015 at 12:50 PM

We were truly screwed back in 2008.

ConstantineXI on July 16, 2015 at 12:54 PM

short of making certain the same GOP is never elected again –

Recon5 on July 16, 2015 at 12:25 PM

Why is getting the GOP elected important?

If they never produce any significant results, then why should anyone care?

sharrukin on July 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM

AZ will find a cure.

People, please support the candidate?
And please stop with the same sort of talk that was rampant during the Romney run? The lousy turnout elected Obama.

The alternative is Hillary. I hope the unpleasantness of that thought will inspire you to hold your nose if you must, and vote for the R.
Whoever it is.

Folks not enthused about “Mittens”? Remember that? You stayed home.
Imagine Romney as Pres right now?

That is what I am talking about.
We can’t make the same error again.
Thanks.

PaleoRider on July 16, 2015 at 1:04 PM

You cannot complain about Trump…the GOPe (yes it exists as McCain proves once again) created Trump and now they must learn to live with him. If the GOPe had supported a sophisticated border wall and demanded on strong enforcement to stop illegals from continuing to come in FIRST, then they might have been given a mulligan to allow some of the less objectionable illegals already here a path to some kind of citizenship at some point down the road.

They did not however, instead they kept pushing comprehensive reform, which no one could trust would actually secure anything or that it even would pass (I am still convinced that whole effort was kabuki to begin with).

I have never understood why the GOP never used divide and conquer tactics of their own by claiming that illegal immigrants are jumping the line in front of people who have done the right thing trying to get into America legally, that Latinos are taking away spots from Asian immigrants, the jobs argument, etc. We know the reason of course and it is CofC that likes illegals.

William Eaton on July 16, 2015 at 1:05 PM

The alternative is Hillary. I hope the unpleasantness of that thought will inspire you to hold your nose if you must, and vote for the R.
Whoever it is.

Folks not enthused about “Mittens”? Remember that? You stayed home.
Imagine Romney as Pres right now?

That is what I am talking about.
We can’t make the same error again.
Thanks.

PaleoRider on July 16, 2015 at 1:04 PM

I was not enthused with Mittens, I did not stay home. I got a huge disappointment there, to say the least.

The unpleasantness of a shrillery the killer presidency is NOT enough of an incentive. Without a conservative candidate to support and vote for my next step is LET IT BURN, because if we can’t get rid of the progressive establishment we do not deserve to continue on as we have been.

LET
IT
BURN.

I’m prepared for it, perhaps you should at least think about it too.

Andy__B on July 16, 2015 at 1:09 PM

thatsafactjack on July 16, 2015 at 11:39 AM

Very well said, Jackie.

bw222 on July 16, 2015 at 1:10 PM

This idiot Senator was interviews about obamas raw deal.

When pressed about why the Republicans allowed the White House to bypass the Senate’s advice and consent clause of the Constitution, he responded, “It’s not a treaty, though. That’s the problem. They’re calling it an agreement. If it were a treaty, then it would require 2/3 vote of the Senate in a positive fashion. You know your Constitution.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/15/exclusive-levin-unleashes-on-mccain-iran-vote-he-voted-to-surrender-power-to-obama/#ixzz3g4jIZtD4

He said that Obama is the one who can call it a treaty. Not the congress. We have people like McCain in congress destroying this country just as much as Obama. I want them all gone! The vast majority hate the constitution

sadsushi on July 16, 2015 at 1:11 PM

For years Arizonans have been looking for a viable alternative to Senator John McCain. Now, they may have their chance to vote him out of office.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2015 at 1:14 PM

Make this go around.

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2015 at 1:14 PM

What we need, says Last, is a candidate who’s broadly in favor of immigration yet candid about the fact that it comes with costs to the rule of law, to public safety, and of course to wages.

Wait…..are these acceptable costs? Because I think we passed acceptable awhile ago.

Cindy Munford on July 16, 2015 at 1:16 PM

No me gusta Juan McLame.

Ward Cleaver on July 16, 2015 at 1:17 PM

Losing his seat to a Democrat might actually be worth it just to see the look on McCain’s face. No wait… he’d probably prefer losing to a Dem than allowing a Tea Party backed candidate beat him.

Ukiah on July 16, 2015 at 1:18 PM

NWConservative on July 16, 2015 at 11:37 AM

I call bull shyt on your name.

Cindy Munford on July 16, 2015 at 1:18 PM

Yeah, one of the crazies here. If Donald Duck is on the ballot with this miserable Repub or whatever he is, the Duck has my vote.

srdem65 on July 16, 2015 at 1:25 PM

In a post on her website Tuesday morning, Ward, a 46-year-old doctor of osteopathic medicine in her second term at the Arizona Legislature, said: “I’m running for the U.S. Senate to give you a real choice! Arizonans deserve a Senator who will fight for their values, and not just go along with the Beltway crowd.”

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM

Emperor Norton on July 16, 2015 at 11:39 AM

Very interesting……sounds like a possible donation recipient.

Cindy Munford on July 16, 2015 at 1:28 PM

MARK MY WORDS.

John McCain will be fine with it when the Feces King grants clemency and the right to vote to 10’s of thousands of prisoners before he leaves office.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-visit-prison-seeking-failed-systems-reform-070207456.html

PappyD61 on July 16, 2015 at 1:31 PM

Obama will release “soft” criminals back on the streets you wait.

He only has just begun to dump on this nation.

He is the FECES KING.

And McCain couldn’t find it in himself to actually play to win in 2008.

PappyD61 on July 16, 2015 at 1:33 PM

Meghan McCain to Join Fox News Channel as contributor

wacko Fawkes noose

Senator Philip Bluster on July 16, 2015 at 1:34 PM

Two primary opponents right now:

Alex Meluskey: https://www.meluskey.com/

Kelli Ward: http://kelliward.com/

topdawg on July 16, 2015 at 1:35 PM

I call bull shyt on your name.

Cindy Munford on July 16, 2015 at 1:18 PM

(scrolls back to find post….)

Once the crazies shut up, then we adults can enact sensible immigration reform. And finally come to terms with our out of control gun laws and stop climate change once and for all.

NWConservative on July 16, 2015 at 11:37 AM

Misunderstanding there, I think.
NWC was speaking in what I take as a McCain inspired
Ultra RINO voice in response to this:

FINALLY a voice of sanity!

SOOO sick of the crazies who want to prevent violent criminals from entering the country!

McCain is just as right here as he was when he supported the Muslim Brotherhood and all of those ISIS-affiliated groups a few years back.

Trump supporters should be embarrassed; “Team GOPe” all the way.

Redstone on July 16, 2015 at 11:32 AM

PaleoRider on July 16, 2015 at 1:39 PM

Speaking of McInsane:

If nothing else good happens today, Nicolle Wallace was fired from The View:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/07/16/nicolle-wallace-fired-from-view-after-one-disastrous-season/

bw222 on July 16, 2015 at 1:40 PM

John, F U, “My friend”

NowIveSeenItAll on July 16, 2015 at 1:40 PM

McCain has morphed from Presidential candidate into a Cartoon Character.

“People who otherwise might be more centrist are angry about this border situation.”

“[T]his border situation?” Who’s the crazy here?

He’s gone from “Build the Damn Fence” to “Shut your Damn Mouth!”

IndieDogg on July 16, 2015 at 1:43 PM

Four U.S. Marines shot in Chattanooga, Tennessee

Authorities are responding to an active shooting at a Navy reserve center in Chattanooga, Tennessee, in which at least four military personnel have been downed by hostile sniper fire.

The Navy also said it was investigating a second shooting at another Navy building in the city.

VorDaj on July 16, 2015 at 1:44 PM

Does McCain want some prison love from El Chapo?

Well at least McCain will be on el Chapos Christmas card list.

SpongePuppy on July 16, 2015 at 1:51 PM

McCain just makes me so….fired up CRAZY!

Quick, where’s my primary ballot!

TexAz on July 16, 2015 at 1:51 PM

“This performance with our friend out in Phoenix is very hurtful to me,” McCain said. “Because what he did was he fired up the crazies.”

All those families who have had a loved one killed by an illegal alien and who have come out in support of Trump, are just tickled I’m sure that a sitting U.S. Senator has just classified them as “crazies” for wanting a secure border.

Does it get more crass than that?

Never mind…I’m sure McCain can find a way to outdo himself.

lynncgb on July 16, 2015 at 1:53 PM

I guess drug running human trafficking invaders are peachy normal and the people who object are crazy according to Mr demensia.

SpongePuppy on July 16, 2015 at 1:55 PM

WE TRIED TO WARN YOU RINO SUPPORTING IDIOTS.

thanks for screwing up bigtime.

SpongePuppy on July 16, 2015 at 1:58 PM

John, F U, “My friend”.

NowIveSeenItAll on July 16, 2015 at 1:58 PM

PaleoRider on July 16, 2015 at 1:39 PM

Darn, I love sarcasm and I missed it.

Cindy Munford on July 16, 2015 at 1:59 PM

McCain will probably say this again and everything will be all better.

Cindy Munford on July 16, 2015 at 2:02 PM

With John McCain around, how could anyone say with a straight face that Trump is the one who makes Republicans look bad?

lynncgb on July 16, 2015 at 2:03 PM

Good sarc needs no tags :)

Schadenfreude on July 16, 2015 at 2:20 PM

No one cares about your opinion McCain, you loser.

ghostwalker1 on July 16, 2015 at 2:20 PM

Liberal RINOs Mary Katharine Ham and Ed Morrissey have essentially said, though not in so many words, that they agree with McCain’s views and that they believe that people who oppose amnesty are “crazies.”

Ed Morrissey led Hot Air’s public break from principled conservatives (like Michelle Malkin) years ago, and the site continues to decline in influence because of it and because of the site’s drop in quality.

Best part about the site now is the comment section.

bluegill on July 16, 2015 at 2:22 PM

Speaking of McInsane:
If nothing else good happens today, Nicolle Wallace was fired from The View:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/07/16/nicolle-wallace-fired-from-view-after-one-disastrous-season/

bw222 on July 16, 2015 at 1:40 PM

Don’t celebrate just yet:

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/meghan-mccain-fox-news-channel-contributor-1201541625/

Yes, Megan McCain, the porky, ignorant, liberal airhead who claims to speak for young people (she doesn’t speak for me!) and who speaks like a valley girl who never made it beyond 4th grade, will be joining Fox News as a contributor to push amnesty, gay marriage, abortion, etc., all the while claiming to be the voice of young Republicans.

Three cheers for nepotism!

bluegill on July 16, 2015 at 2:27 PM

McCain will encourage lots of primary challengers to get in and split the anti-McCain vote.

We all need to rally around Kelli Ward.

commodore on July 16, 2015 at 2:29 PM

There are national parks and forests in Arizona that have been taken over by the Mexican drug cartels, and U.S. citizens are warned not to go into them, because of the danger. The Obama administration refuses to make even a pretense of border security, and has put out the word in Mexico and central America that anybody who wants to come into the U.S. — including criminals — will not be impeded. The Obama administration has dumped back into U.S. neighborhoods, instead of deporting, nearly 200,000 illegal aliens with U.S. criminal convictions for violent crimes like rape and murder.

McCain knows all this, and still has the f*cking nerve to call Arizonans “crazy” for being angry about the fact that the Obama administration has essentially surrendered our sovereignty and allowed our state (and our nation) to become a dumping ground for the world’s criminals.

McCain is a f*cking traitor.

AZCoyote on July 16, 2015 at 2:36 PM

Doesn’t the crazy, old coot realize that he is up for re-election next year and it’s time to start acting like a fake conservative? Senator Senile is really losing it,

bw222 on July 16, 2015 at 12:47 PM

It’s too early for that yet. McCain does his hispandering act for 5-1/2 years, and then in the six months before the election, he becomes the toughest border hawk around.

F*cking fraud.

AZCoyote on July 16, 2015 at 2:45 PM

Don’t link that garbage… right2bright on July 16, 2015 at 10:46 AM

When you can disprove anything contained in that video please get back to me. Start with Johnny “Songbird” McCain’s obstruction of congress’s attempts to get info about any remaining POW’s from the North Vietnamese. Thanks.

Akzed on July 16, 2015 at 10:52 AM

I don’t “review” those idiotic video’s that are done in someone’s basement…they were vetted and proven to be false years ago, during his campaign run…the people who put that out were humiliated and shown to be liars.

I have no interest in “disproving” that video, just like I have no interest in disproving the videos that prove we never landed on the moon, or that Bush secretly planned the 9/11 disaster, or the video’s that prove the those evil Joooooos planned the 9/11 plane crashes…or the video’s that “prove” that planes could not have taken down those buildings, it had to be bombs…and I don’t want to disprove all of the video’s that prove more than one person was involved in killing Kennedy…I don’t want to disprove video’s that prove blacks are no better than apes…I don’t have time for that junk, you apparently do.

However this one I do approve of….the only real factual video made.

Get it? Those are garbage for the weak minded to embrace, for the ones who have no real voice, so they create a “voice”, and fabricate with clips and snippets.

right2bright on July 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM

When will this idiot McCain do the world a favor and drop dead?

This guy has been an enemy since he became an Ensign in the U.S.Navy. He destroyed five Navy planes, due to his incompetence, before finally being shot down by the North Vietnamese. He also almost sank an aircraft carrier by “accidentally” firing a rocket across the deck and starting a fire that resulted in a fire that killed and wounded many sailors, and damaged the ship.

I hate it when I hear McLame is a ‘hero’ because he spent so many years as a POW. It was all his fault for being the moron that he is that he was shot down. And if his Pappy and Grand-Pappy weren’t Navy Admirals, he never would have become a pilot.

He’s held the GOP as POW’s for too many decades. It’s time this idiot is given the boot.

ZeusGoose on July 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM

Oh, I’m not lying, nor was I talking about any of the political he says he currently holds – I’m referring to the positions he used to hold, before he “evolved”.
It entertains me no end that every one of you holding Trump up as the True Conservative™ du jour are standing behind the guy that embodies what you love to hate.
“Here’s yer sign, Darwin…”

Andy__B on July 16, 2015 at 12:34 PM

Recon5 on July 16, 2015 at 2:58 PM

Ah, McCain and Kerry, two peas in a pod.

Both were war vets.
Both were senators.
Both ran for President.
Both lost the election.
Both just handed nukes to Iran.

Good times.

fossten on July 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM

right2bright on July 16, 2015 at 2:46 PM

Right2bright, aka Not2Bright, it’s no surprise to see you leap to the defense of pro-amnesty traitor John McCain. You have a long history on here of advocating for illegal alien amnesty.

illegal immigrants who fight their way to our shores have a work ethnic.

And you are obviously a racist…

…my great grandfather was a hero, Irish that did fight his way into this country, he crossed the Canadian border illegally, and fought for America, as an “illegal immigrant”…

So yeah, I do have a special place in my heart for people who work to get here, not [whine that] “laws” do not apply to people who have risked their lives to be in America.
right2bright on June 17, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Conservatives should embrace what illegals bring, lower more responsible wages.
right2bright on October 24, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Do the math on deporting 15 million “illegals”, and see if you want to foot the bill.
Or would you be willing to say that someone who has been here, for 15 years, never missed a day at work, paid taxes, bought a house, raised their children, is not a good candidate to be a citizen?
right2bright on November 29, 2011 at 1:57 PM

bluegill on July 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM

Normally I’d assume McCain’s grouchy because Trump’s rise is another setback for his dream of a new legislative amnesty but this probably has more to do with petty electoral concerns.

Allahpundit

That’s because you have zero memory and zero critical thinking skills.

You think McCain is mocking conservatives publicly because he’s ACTING OUT?

The guy has a PATTERN of mocking TEA partiers and Christians. He’s done it for years.

Do you even THINK anymore before you hit the submit button?

fossten on July 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM

It’s fun watching Perry and McCain try to gang tackle Trump.

El Chapo will send them some cash for their loyalty to the cartel and mass mexican invasion.

SpongePuppy on July 16, 2015 at 4:12 PM

Ah, McCain and Kerry, two peas in a pod.

Both were war vets.
Both were senators.
Both ran for President.
Both lost the election.
Both just handed nukes to Iran.

Good times.

fossten on July 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM

Yep. And Obama and Carter have pages of similarities.

SpongePuppy on July 16, 2015 at 4:14 PM

McAmnesty better hope the illegals vote for him because the crazies are not.

savage24 on July 16, 2015 at 5:39 PM

I don’t know what a “centrist” is in regards to border, illegal aliens, immigration, citizenship, etc. but I would like to know what a centrist was in regards to slavery/emancipation, etc., and then compare them to see what these two kinds of centrists have in common.

Buddahpundit on July 16, 2015 at 5:44 PM

Donald J. Trump [email protected] 46m46 minutes ago

@SenJohnMcCain should be defeated in the primaries. Graduated last in his class at Annapolis–dummy!

Jayrae on July 16, 2015 at 6:05 PM

Do the math on deporting 15 million “illegals”, and see if you want to foot the bill.
Or would you be willing to say that someone who has been here, for 15 years, never missed a day at work, paid taxes, bought a house, raised their children, is not a good candidate to be a citizen?
right2bright on November 29, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Why is it always the same strawman? Can we deport a million…500k? Okay, how about criminal aliens?

arnold ziffel on July 16, 2015 at 6:25 PM

I will vote against John “Build the fence” McCain in the primary and in the general if he is the candidate. I’d just as soon have a dem as a RINO. Enough is enough.

Kaffa on July 16, 2015 at 6:36 PM

John you wore out whatever good will was left you for your service in Vietnam a few years back. Now you are just a crazy old democrat trying to fit in the repub party. Retire and be never seen or heard from again you idiot.

phadras on July 16, 2015 at 6:46 PM

Do the math on deporting 15 million “illegals”, and see if you want to foot the bill.
Or would you be willing to say that someone who has been here, for 15 years, never missed a day at work, paid taxes, bought a house, raised their children, is not a good candidate to be a citizen?
right2bright on November 29, 2011 at 1:57 PM

You should ask for a refund from your 5th grade teacher:
Assume $5k total cost of hunting and deporting each illegal
We have 30 million hiding or not hiding in the shadows
Total cost to deport 150 billion. Since many live together, when you find one, there’s probably 3 others, so economies of scale comes out to 100 billion.

Throw in a $200/head bounty and we can drop that cost down to 80 billion.

Back to the 30 million, would it be safe to say 1/3 are minors going to school on our dime at $10k each? That right there is 100 billion in k-12 services.
What about EBTs? Another 100 billion per year?
What about cost of crime? If we assign $1 mil for each murder, homicide or rape, that’s another 1/2 trillion per year!

What say you, none2bright? And the above is by no means complete list. What cost do we assign for dealing with stolen identity?

AH_C on July 16, 2015 at 8:10 PM

I really wish McCain would find a dark cave in the middle of the desert to retire to.

Star Bird on July 16, 2015 at 8:25 PM

He may be right
We may be crazy
And it just might be a lunatic we’re looking for
Turn out the light
Don’t try to save tea
He may be wrong
But this we know
We’re really right…

apostic on July 16, 2015 at 9:28 PM

Yeah, I’m crazy because I expect the Federal Government to do the job which it was actually created to do. And that’s not Obamacare. It’s not Medicare. It’s not Medicaid, and it’s not Social Security. It’s TO DEFEND THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY AND CONTROL OUR BORDERS.

quikstrike98 on July 16, 2015 at 9:55 PM

More heads about to explode:

Nevada State Polling Shows Donald Trump Crushing Field – Including Massive Support From Latinos…

NEVADA:

Trump 27.7%
Walker 15.0%
Jeb Bush 6.8%

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/07/16/nevada-state-polling-shows-donald-trump-crushing-field-including-massive-support-from-latinos/

So nearly a third of the party are “crazies?”

The real wacko bird is McCain.

anotherJoe on July 16, 2015 at 11:00 PM

I really wish McCain would find a dark cave in the middle of the desert to retire to.

Star Bird on July 16, 2015 at 8:25 PM

I’m more for renegade Apaches pissy after 125 years capturing him and staking his ass out on an ant hill. Put a little sugar on him first…his mouth, eyes and nuts.

arnold ziffel on July 16, 2015 at 11:38 PM

Do the math on deporting 15 million “illegals”, and see if you want to foot the bill.
Or would you be willing to say that someone who has been here, for 15 years, never missed a day at work, paid taxes, bought a house, raised their children, is not a good candidate to be a citizen?
right2bright on November 29, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Arizona and Alabama’s state laws (that the feds later stopped) showed that all you have to do is threaten to go after them and most importantly, stop the welfare spigot. At that point its called self-deportation and the cost drops a lot.

But hey, we could round up 110k Japanese (and Italians/Germans) and put them in camps during a war, why not now?

As for McCain, has he visited his wacko bird friends in ISIS lately? Er, excuse me they were freedom fighters at the time.

oryguncon on July 16, 2015 at 11:40 PM

“We’ll see how this plays out, but there is some anger in my state,”

How astute to finally recognize the anger. Just a little out of touch, aren’t we, McLame, and your boy, Miss Lindsey, was never on the presidential stage.

Kissmygrits on July 17, 2015 at 8:35 AM

McCain won’t retire unless he get’s his own TV show. Maybe Trump can arrange that?

virgo on July 17, 2015 at 3:43 PM

Aside for his time in the Hanoi Hilton, McCain wasn’t much of a naval officer.

He screwed up his election and now he’s trying to screw up others. He’s a reverse bellweather. If he says something’s bad, it is probably good.

Limpet6 on July 18, 2015 at 11:02 AM

right2bright on November 29, 2011 at 1:57 PM

I did the math on this several years ago, and for a fraction of what we spend on the DEA’s mostly failed “war on drugs” we could send them all back, a few at a time.

It’s a simple, effective, no frills plan.

dogsoldier on July 18, 2015 at 11:20 AM

“This performance with our friend out in Phoenix is very hurtful to me,” McCain said. “Because what he did was he fired up the crazies.”…

Well that’s the most honest statement you’ve made in a while, Senator. It’s time for new blood, so retire already. You’re part of the problem and you either don’t see it or you don’t care. We desperately need representation that will do what is good for the country instead of pandering for votes.

geezerintraining on July 19, 2015 at 7:40 AM