Great news, Oregon. 15 year olds can now get govt funded sex change surgery without parental permission

posted at 5:21 pm on July 9, 2015 by Jazz Shaw

Some days I really feel like I’d do better if I could switch jobs for a while and just go mow lawns or something. (I know… many of you have been suggesting the same thing for me for some time now.) If I made a move like that, maybe I wouldn’t find myself having to read stories like this. (Fox News)

The list of things 15-year-olds are not legally allowed to do in Oregon is long: Drive, smoke, donate blood, get a tattoo — even go to a tanning bed.

But, under a first-in-the-nation policy quietly enacted in January that many parents are only now finding out about, 15-year-olds are now allowed to get a sex-change operation. Many residents are stunned to learn they can do it without parental notification — and the state will even pay for it through its Medicaid program, the Oregon Health Plan.

“It is trespassing on the hearts, the minds, the bodies of our children,” said Lori Porter of Parents’ Rights in Education. “They’re our children. And for a decision, a life-altering decision like that to be done unbeknownst to a parent or guardian, it’s mindboggling.”

In a statement, Oregon Health Authority spokeswoman Susan Wickstrom explained it this way: “Age of medical consent varies by state. Oregon law — which applies to both Medicaid and non-Medicaid Oregonians — states that the age of medical consent is 15.”

You may be wondering at this point how the good citizens of Oregon ever voted for something like this. If there is any small sliver of comfort coming out of this story… they didn’t. The state did it on their own without notifying anyone.

While 15 is the medical age of consent in the state, the decision to cover sex-change operations specifically was made by the Health Evidence Review Commission (HERC).

Members are appointed by the governor and paid by the state of Oregon. With no public debate, HERC changed its policy to include cross-sex hormone therapy, puberty-suppressing drugs and gender-reassignment surgery as covered treatments for people with gender dysphoria, formally known as gender identity disorder.

All I can say is that as a nation, collectively, we have lost our minds. Or at a minimum we have lost our way. We simply can’t have state sponsored mutilation of children. This is beyond insanity. I happen to agree that a fifteen year old child shouldn’t be able to get a tattoo, at least without parental consent. (And really, you should wait a few years anyway.) It’s also too young to vote, which I agree with too. They should probably be able to get an aspirin if they need one, but we can discuss that later. One thing they should absolutely not be able to do is be diagnosed with “gender dysphoria” and have their genitals surgically removed or rearranged in a way which will never be able to be fully restored.

We previously talked about the story of the 10 year old “transgender” boy whose parents had found a doctor who was going to inject the child with hormones to stave off puberty. (By the way, “puberty suppressing drugs” are covered by the state in Oregon also, but thankfully it seems you still have to wait until the age of 15.) How far is the country going to allow this to go in the name of not offending the politically correct SJW crowd? Is there no red line which can not be crossed?

These are children we’re talking about. It is the parents’ obligation, first and foremost, to protect them. But if the parents fail, at some point the state needs to step in and prevent a disaster, not promote one. Even if you happen to believe that “gender dysphoria” is a physical medical condition where a person is born in the wrong sort of body rather than a psychological condition which might be treatable through other means, it doesn’t have that short of a fuse on the “disease.” If you are “diagnosed” at the age of fifteen, it’s not going to kill you in the next three years the same way cancer or heart failure or some other actual physical malady might. You can wait until you’re an adult and then decide to do it, providing you are willing to live with the consequences.

I’d write more, but I really need a drink. Join me for a martini and a bout of depression if you’d like.


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. . . but not buy a pack of cigarettes. . .

Wander on July 9, 2015 at 5:24 PM

It’s funny that some people, including weenie libertarians, are too dense to realize that this and the “marriage equality” nonsense are all part of the same cause.

Good job, guys.

Biscuits Mahoney on July 9, 2015 at 5:26 PM

You can’t get your ears pierced without parental consent until you’re 18, what the hell is wrong with these people and what kind of quacks are treating people in that state?

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2015 at 5:26 PM

All I can say is that as a nation, collectively, we have lost our minds.

Key words

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

So, a child who has “feelings” can make a lifelong and irreversible decision, without parental consent, to become another gender, and the state will assist them across the board…yet, they cannot purchase a beer anywhere, nor cigarettes, without the parents getting the heat.

Madness.

coldwarrior on July 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

Oregon is also the state where Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian is trying to put a lein on the Klein’s (owners of SweetCakes by Melissa’s) house.

It’s starting to make Massachusetts look sane by comparison.

BKennedy on July 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

We simply can’t have state sponsored mutilation of children.

We’re a Muslim nation now.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

. . . but not buy a pack of cigarettes. . .

Wander on July 9, 2015 at 5:24 PM

They can just self identity as an older transgender Millennial…

Electrongod on July 9, 2015 at 5:29 PM

These are children we’re talking about.

“You’re so…odd” — liblikeaslave

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2015 at 5:31 PM

Heh, it’s almost like some people were warning of slippery slopes.

TheMadHessian on July 9, 2015 at 5:31 PM

BKennedy on July 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

Why? They have the money.

Cindy Munford on July 9, 2015 at 5:32 PM

All I can say is that as a nation, collectively, we have lost our minds.

Yep

Hide your kids…hide your wife…

workingclass artist on July 9, 2015 at 5:33 PM

and the state will even pay for it through its Medicaid program, the Oregon Health Plan.

Not just the state – also Federal taxpayers apparently. But then Roberts said that the word “State” meant “Federal government”, so I guess that is correct.

How is OHP funded?

OHP is supported by both federal and state funding.

kcewa on July 9, 2015 at 5:35 PM

I’d write more, but I really need a drink. Join me for a martini and a bout of depression if you’d like.

Thursday is margarita night Jazz. Enchiladas con cebollas, chips and margaritas.

Oregon is idiocy on steroids it seems. And all that medicaid money comes from all of us doesn’t it?

DanMan on July 9, 2015 at 5:36 PM

Some forms of indoctrination are more equal than others.

antipc on July 9, 2015 at 5:36 PM

OT: Kelly Ayotte, one of the “Three Amigos” (along with McCain and Graham) in trouble?

I sure hope so. Down with the RINOS, and if Democrats beat them, what difference does it make?

ConstantineXI on July 9, 2015 at 5:38 PM

This is Obama’s America.

Captain Kirock on July 9, 2015 at 5:39 PM

Let me get this straight, a 15 year old needs a doctor’s permission to take an aspirin at school but can get a Chopadickoffomy or Addadicktomy without his parent’s permission?

ConstantineXI on July 9, 2015 at 5:39 PM

First off, this is just insanity. You cannot tell me if parents do not have the right to stop this, the right to tell their children “no” when it comes to relationship the parents amy disapprove of, is not far behind. I’ve commented for years about the gay agenda being fueled by desires down the road to lower the age of consent and reduce or remove parental rights to prevent this. If a child has the right to leave their home one day and get any gender modification at all, parents will soon have no rights.

Oregon is also the state where Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian is trying to put a lein on the Klein’s (owners of SweetCakes by Melissa’s) house.

BKennedy on July 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

They’ve made more than twice what they need for the gay rights movement extortion. I don’t think there’s much to worry about a lien unless something else recently has occurred.

hawkdriver on July 9, 2015 at 5:39 PM

But remember, True Believers, these are the same kids who are unable to consent to marry, and therefore, pedo marriage is a facile argument.

/s

The Schaef on July 9, 2015 at 5:41 PM

OT: The Donald From 2012

Real estate mogul Donald Trump recently reflected on former GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s loss, telling Newsmax that the candidate failed to resonate among certain demographics in part because of his “maniacal” immigration policy.

“He had a crazy policy of self-deportation, which was maniacal,” Trump said. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote … He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.”

“For people that have been here for years that have been hard-workers, have good jobs, they’re supporting their family — it’s very, very tough to just say, ‘By the way, 22 years, you have to leave. Get out,'” he said during an appearance on Fox News. “I’m one of the world’s very conservative people, but I have to tell you on a human basis, how do you throw somebody out that’s lived in this country for 20 years.”

kcewa on July 9, 2015 at 5:43 PM

Its NOT the nation that is acquiescing to this PC insanity.

Ask any parent you know, be they raging lib or moronic LIV- do you think the state should be able to castrate your minor son or sew up your daughter’s vag!na without even your knowledge, much less your permission?

You will not find one single solitary mother or father (aside from actual crazies or maybe sperm donors like Tlaloc) who will say “Sure! Cut ’em off- the government knows best! What do I care!”

People may be quiet, but they are not in agreement.

Dolce Far Niente on July 9, 2015 at 5:43 PM

Oregon: Business owners can have their freedom of religion and speech taken away by an elected official because they aren’t the views of that official but 15 year olds can have sex change operations without their parents consent.

ConstantineXI on July 9, 2015 at 5:43 PM

Done at taxpayer expense, by the same party that is okay with

Tom Daschle
Tim Geithner
Maxine Waters
Charlie Rangel
Al Sharpton
Warren Buffett
John Kerry

evading taxes.

GrumpyOldFart on July 9, 2015 at 5:47 PM

While 15 is the medical age of consent in the state, the decision to cover sex-change operations specifically was made by the Health Evidence Review Commission (HERC).

What do the citizens of OR call this “commission”? HERC-U-LOSE?

Looking for a friend.

Mommys Little Darling on July 9, 2015 at 5:53 PM

We’re a Muslim nation now.

Schadenfreude on July 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

Nah. If we were a Muslim nation, we could take the members of the Health Evidence Review Commission (HERC) that implemented this insane policy and…do things to them that I can’t mention here specifically without (probably) violating the Terms of Use. We’re not a Muslim nation yet.

joejm65 on July 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM

Come on here and defend this, idiot libs.

Ward Cleaver on July 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM

Just another step in the F#CK GOD Progression.

ROCnPhilly on July 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM

Age of consent, homophobes.

rogerb on July 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM

So, a child who has “feelings” can make a lifelong and irreversible decision, without parental consent, to become another gender, and the state will assist them across the board…yet, they cannot purchase a beer anywhere, nor cigarettes, without the parents getting the heat.

Madness.

coldwarrior on July 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

Or drive, smoke, donate blood, get a tattoo, vote, join the military, work full-time, or even go to a tanning bed.

Yet they can mutilate themselves…or rather, get “professionals” to mutilate them, at taxpayer expense!!!

Is it sexual & unorthodox?
You will celebrate it!
You will pay for it!

itsnotaboutme on July 9, 2015 at 5:56 PM

Oregon and the west coast has a mental disorder.

MCGIRV on July 9, 2015 at 5:56 PM

Join me for a martini and a bout of depression if you’d like.

Straight bourbon for me. And I await the Sweet Meteor of Death.

God, please wipe us out and start over.

rbj on July 9, 2015 at 5:57 PM

And yet, those of us who have been warning where all this was heading have been mocked and attacked for years now. You wanted this morally ambiguous society, and now you have it. When you embrace perversities like gay marriage and transgenderism and when you embrace murder via abortion on demand, you open the floodgates to every sort of sick thing imaginable.

Like my dad always says, there is no bottom. Any depraved, insane thing you can imagine still isn’t as bad as it can get. You asked for this Jazz, now enjoy it.

Paperclips on July 9, 2015 at 5:57 PM

And slip slip slip down that Slippery Slope that all the Homo-propagandists poo-pooed as “cwazy conspiratorial paranoia”

The legalization of pederasty and eventually pedophilia are inevitable…

Augustinian on July 9, 2015 at 6:00 PM

How long will it take before children start suing their parents (and winning) to force them to pay for their sex-change operations when the parents don’t consent?

suburbanite on July 9, 2015 at 6:01 PM

Come on here and defend this, idiot libs.

Ward Cleaver on July 9, 2015 at 5:54 PM

They won’t. The approach towards matters of our children, evidently, is still not completely out in the open even though they have the upper hand in most quarters. They’ll bide their time.

They’ll wait for the latest series of “family entertainment” specifically targeting transgenders (one specifically about a child) to run a bit before they see how public opinion changes. Maybe a few lawsuits.

hawkdriver on July 9, 2015 at 6:01 PM

I’d write more, but I really need a drink. Join me for a martini and a bout of depression if you’d like.

There’s a floating bar around here. Somewhere.

Mommys Little Darling on July 9, 2015 at 6:01 PM

THE DARK, UNTOLD STORY OF TRANSGENDERISM
10 years after? Mental difficulties … and then it gets worse …

http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/untold-dark-story-of-transgenderism/

Pork-Chop on July 9, 2015 at 6:02 PM

Age of consent, homophobes.

rogerb on July 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM

Age of consent for hetero sex = 18

Age of consent for homo sex = undefined

antipc on July 9, 2015 at 6:04 PM

How long will it take before children start suing their parents (and winning) to force them to pay for their sex-change operations when the parents don’t consent?

suburbanite on July 9, 2015 at 6:01 PM

Then the state will pick up the tab.

It’s important to the state that children be as sexually initiated/active/violated/mutilated as possible before they are old enough to think for themselves.

ROCnPhilly on July 9, 2015 at 6:08 PM

……..this is why the saucers never land…..

mjs28c on July 9, 2015 at 6:13 PM

Oregon is a beautiful state but they people who are In government there are insane and very intolerant.

sadsushi on July 9, 2015 at 6:17 PM

Let me think about this for a while.

3..2..1.. Ok its stupid.

Idiots who wanted the government out of the bedroom now want government into the operating room for sex changes.

MIND BLOWING

SpongePuppy on July 9, 2015 at 6:18 PM

Love Wins Again!!!!!!!
The Aztec Rain Demon on July 9, 2015 at 25:04 PM

Shut up you MONSTERS who would oppose the taxpayer funded sexual mutilation of children by the State.
The Aztec Rain Demon on July 9, 2015 at 25:05PM

I wish they had this when I was a kid. You MONSTERS made me pay for my operations and hormones.
The Aztec Rain Demon July 9, 2015 at 25:06PM

Now I suppose you MONSTERS won’t want to bake a cake in celebration of these surgeries.
The Aztec Rain Demon July 9, 2015 at 25:07PM

Unfair! The fascist monsters in at OHP limiting the age to 15 or older. Children should be able to get sex change surgery as soon as they can speak well enough to ask for one!!!
The Aztec Rain Demon July 9, 2015 at 25:08PM

LegendHasIt onJuly 9th, 2015 at 6:15 pm

HOW DARE YOU put words in my mouth! I never said that out loud!!!
The Aztec Rain Demon July 9, 2015 at 25:08PM

LegendHasIt on July 9, 2015 at 6:24 PM

I can’t fill a cavity without parental consent before age 19. It’s considered battery.

gmbdds on July 9, 2015 at 6:28 PM

I’m starting to think maybe things would be better under Muslim ownership than under the Rainbow ownership we have now. At least in a dark ages society, you know what you’re in for. The requirements, disagreeable as they may be, are fixed. With Progtards, there’s no telling what the next perversion might be.

Xasprtr on July 9, 2015 at 6:32 PM

Oregon, I love so much of you, but hate you so much too.

portlandon on July 9, 2015 at 6:33 PM

Doctors who perform sex-change operations on 15-year-olds without parental consent should be sentenced to life in prison.

Hermeticus on July 9, 2015 at 6:33 PM

#LoveWins

Seriously though, this “hodge podge” age of majority laws are too confusing. We need the almighty SCROTUS to issue an edict that you are an “adult” at one single age in all cases for all states. Help us Obi Wan Kennody!!!

Nutstuyu on July 9, 2015 at 6:36 PM

Xasprtr on July 9, 2015 at 6:32 PM

That’s the next step.

WryTrvllr on July 9, 2015 at 6:36 PM

Doctors who perform sex-change operations on 15-year-olds without parental consent should be sentenced to life in prison.

Hermeticus on July 9, 2015 at 6:33 PM

They shouldn’t get that far.

WryTrvllr on July 9, 2015 at 6:37 PM

gmbdds on July 9, 2015 at 6:28 PM

Easy. Fill out a form claiming it’s interfering with their sex life.

WryTrvllr on July 9, 2015 at 6:38 PM

I can’t fill a cavity without parental consent before age 19. It’s considered battery.
gmbdds on July 9, 2015 at 6:28 PM

Oh you meant as a dentist. :0 Mind, gutter, and all that.

Nutstuyu on July 9, 2015 at 6:43 PM

Doctors who perform sex-change operations on 15-year-olds without parental consent should be sentenced to life in prison.

Hermeticus on July 9, 2015 at 6:33 PM

If it were my kid the doctor wouldn’t have to worry about life in prison.

Bishop on July 9, 2015 at 6:45 PM

……..this is why the saucers never land…..

mjs28c on July 9, 2015 at 6:13 PM

Oh they landed, sadly they landed in D.C. and ran into Dick Durbin and Maxine Waters out on their lunch break.

As of now the saucers are speeding back home to arrange for a fleet to return and sterilize the planet’s surface from orbit for the good of the universe.

Bishop on July 9, 2015 at 6:49 PM

HOW can a minor sign a contract to have their privates altered by a doctor?

And without a contract, HOW can a doctor defend himself from lawsuits?

WHAT insurance company is going to insure a doctor against malpractice for such procedures?

WHO will be the first 15 yr old to find a lawyer to sue a doctor for refusing to perform these services?

A total mess all the way around!

Freddy on July 9, 2015 at 7:14 PM

I thought chop shops were illegal.

Mommys Little Darling on July 9, 2015 at 7:33 PM

All I can say is that as a nation, collectively, we have lost our minds.

No, collectively, liberals have lost their minds. Half us in this country think this is wrong.

TulsAmerican on July 9, 2015 at 7:37 PM

Free Oregon’s nubile organs!

vnvet on July 9, 2015 at 7:57 PM

Well, if the kids get glamour shots in Vanity Fair, Mary Kathryn Ham will stop by to tell us she approves.

WhirledPeas on July 9, 2015 at 8:04 PM

In my eyes it’s legitimate and justified to end the enablers of this atrocity lives

Mr Soames on July 9, 2015 at 9:09 PM

Are the doctors who refuse to do this going to be fined and forced to take their shingles down?

paulmarkcards on July 9, 2015 at 9:10 PM

Bishop on July 9, 2015 at 6:45 PM

I agree

At best they would be a rug

Mr Soames on July 9, 2015 at 9:11 PM

Cause 15 year olds are mature enough to make this type of decision.

They need to also put criminal statutes in place for the appropriate punishment for anyone that performs or assists in these operations that have a subsequent adverse effect on the minor, with the statute of limitations tolling until the minor turns 21. Minor commits suicide, person performing or assisting in the operation is guilty of second degree murder. Minor decides they really want their peni* or vagin* back-aggravated battery.

They can’t even drink and they can consent to mutilating surgery? The Oregon legislature is as dysfunctional as their healthcare website. Perhaps they should face criminal charges as well.

talkingpoints on July 9, 2015 at 9:16 PM

talkingpoints on July 9, 2015 at 9:16 PM

Welcome to liberal world

And you wonder why they want our ” gats “

Mr Soames on July 9, 2015 at 9:48 PM

Nucking Futs

CW on July 9, 2015 at 10:01 PM

All I can say is that as a nation, collectively, we have lost our minds

Bruce Jenner is a woman.

/

INSANE

CW on July 9, 2015 at 10:02 PM

Oregon is a beautiful state but they people who are In government there are insane and very intolerant.

sadsushi on July 9, 2015 at 6:17 PM

The people who are in government didn’t get there with a military coup.

pannw on July 9, 2015 at 10:07 PM

Age of consent for hetero sex = 18

Age of consent for homo sex = undefined

antipc on July 9, 2015 at 6:04 PM

Little bit of oversight there, kind of like “state means state-and-federal” —
and minors in some states can get abortions without the parents’ knowledge or permission, courtesy of the same school administrators that will strip-search them for alleged possession of Ibuprofen tablets.

AesopFan on July 9, 2015 at 10:22 PM

You may be wondering at this point how the good citizens of Oregon ever voted for something like this. If there is any small sliver of comfort coming out of this story… they didn’t.

I disagree, Jazz, they voted for Democrats over and over again and so they voted for this. They may THINK that they weren’t voting for it, but they were.

OrdinaryAverageGuy on July 9, 2015 at 10:36 PM

Oregonians voted for the turds that appointed these turds. The voters should get what they voted for good and hard but their poor children must be protected. Where are the champions for these children? What is CPS doing? Where are the hip, big talking child advocates that so love their meetings and conventions? Are they all mad? Does no one have any good sense and courage?

Mason on July 9, 2015 at 11:12 PM

Here today, Oregon tomorrow. (or is it the other way round?)

What next? Drive-thru death-panels?

virgo on July 9, 2015 at 11:23 PM

Oregon

The age of consent in Oregon is 18. Sexual offenses are defined under the Oregon Revised Statutes Chapter 163. With regards to age only, the following offenses are defined.

18: Consent for all laws. (ORS 163.345 – ORS 163-425)
Under 18: Defined as Sexual Abuse 3 (Class A Misdemeanor)
Under 16: Defined as Rape 3 / Sodomy 3 (Class C Felony)
Under 14: Defined as Rape 2 / Sodomy 2 (Class B Felony)
Under 12: Defined as Rape 1 / Sodomy 1 (Class A Felony)

Additionally, Oregon has a three-year rule defined under ORS 163.345. However, this does not apply to Rape 1, or Sodomy 1, effectively limiting the age to 12. However, a person can still be charged with Sexual Misconduct (Class C Misdemeanor) under ORS 163.445, if the victim was under 15 years old.

The age of sexual consent in Oregon is 18 (one of the higher ones in the US (which pretty much ranges from 16-18).

So, they can have a tattoo. They can smoke. They can have gender-altering surgery. All while they are not considered old enough to have sex.

I don’t know about you, but I would much rather have my 16 year old kid have sex than have gender-altering surgery without my consent. Their priorities are all out of whack.

Theophile on July 10, 2015 at 2:32 AM

But its their body… They’re making a choice

kerncon on July 10, 2015 at 4:00 PM

Damn, I ran out of my rockets I bought for Gay Day and the Fourth.

Axeman on July 10, 2015 at 4:15 PM