Obama on ISIS: “Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas”

posted at 6:01 pm on July 6, 2015 by Allahpundit

Via RCP, bear in mind that one of the can’t-miss ideas recently floated by a former Obama administration advisor is that gay marriage might defeat ISIS.

This is the sort of thing you say when you’re trying to break it to people that victory in the new war won’t come soon, and may not come ever. It’s the foreign policy equivalent of another of Obama’s favorite sayings, the old leftist bromide about being on “the wrong side of history”: The enemy’s backwardness is plain and our moral superiority is obvious, so ultimate triumph is assured even in the teeth of immediate defeat. All I could think of while watching this was those photos you see online sometimes of Afghanistan or Iran circa 1960, with all the women in blouses and skirts, and photos of the same two countries today, with women in head coverings or even full burqas. Better ideas don’t always win. Especially if they’re defended by weak leadership.

However superior our ideas might be, O’s strategy, like it or not, is to run out the clock until 2017 and leave it to the next poor schmuck to figure something out with ISIS.


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Remember when Thomas Jefferson defeated the Barbary States by writing them strongly worded letters?

Yeah, me neither.

fossten on July 7, 2015 at 10:22 AM

Also, Bishop!

fossten on July 7, 2015 at 10:23 AM

Sniveling little weasel. Spineless worm.

What a disgrace this clown is.

Adjoran on July 7, 2015 at 10:28 AM

fossten on July 7, 2015 at 10:22 AM

if Emperor Zero were President in 1941, we would all be speaking German or Japanese now.

The man is a complete idiot and a fool. He may also be an ISIS sympathizer, since he has blocked efforts to arm the Kurds…

dogsoldier on July 7, 2015 at 10:43 AM

Well, those atomic bombs dropped on Japan sure WERE a great idea.

stop2think on July 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM

It’s amazing that someone who actually believes he is intelligent could say something that is so patently false. It is criminal that we are forced to listen to someone who actually believes he is intelligent say something that is so patently false…

Pest on July 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM

“You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone” Al Capone

Similarly, bad ideologies are not defeated by better ideologies alone – but by those willing to expend blood toil and tears in defense of that better ideology.

Heaven may well belong to the righteous, but victory belongs to those more willing and able to FIGHT.

Mordaukar on July 7, 2015 at 11:16 AM

What really wins the day, and the War, is killing people and breaking things. But the soft headed in the Department of State and our fearless leader still spout the old bromides. Talking never beat an enemy. Ask anyone harassed by a bully.

topperj on July 7, 2015 at 11:37 AM

Worst. President. EVER!!!

Vince on July 7, 2015 at 11:42 AM

“We’re over Tokyo, drop the brochures!”

Bizarro Truman

VistaBrook on July 7, 2015 at 11:57 AM

Obama is channeling Nevile Chamberlain. The results have been, and are going to be, the same.

sadatoni on July 7, 2015 at 12:00 PM

Emperor Zero, VP Gunsmoke, and Killary are the dumbest people in high positions of our nation. If dumb azzholes could fly, all three would be an airport.

philoise65 on July 7, 2015 at 12:03 PM

Obama on ISIS: “Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas”

That pretty much sums up how that moron thinks.

cajunpatriot on July 7, 2015 at 12:15 PM

Once again the man demonstrates that he don’t know much about history….

HBowmanMD on July 7, 2015 at 12:18 PM

“When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse.”

Abelard on July 7, 2015 at 12:22 PM

What a waste of lives and dollars were expended in WWII. If only king zero had been preezy then, he could have just sat down with Hitler, Mussolini, Hirohito and Hideki over some Wagu beef and a little reefer told them his vastly superior ideas, and viola! no world war.

maryo on July 7, 2015 at 12:39 PM

If the people in an oppressed society cannot hear dissenting ideas, how will those ideas win? This man is absolutely, astoundingly, amazingly ignorant.

allstonian on July 7, 2015 at 12:53 PM

Maybe Obama’s secret service detail can turn in all their weapons for “better ideas”.

LarryK on July 7, 2015 at 1:04 PM

Remember way back on the campaign trail, back in 2008…when Obama suggested a Civilian National Security Force… (“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security.”)

Who knew it would be ISIS.

coldwarrior on July 7, 2015 at 1:10 PM

Just couldn’t resist. Or maybe I should say “Just couldn’t race-ist.”

Oldnuke on July 7, 2015 at 1:10 PM

Ooops, wrong thread.

Oldnuke on July 7, 2015 at 1:11 PM

“Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas”

Wrong, Mr. President. Murderous ideologies with guns are defeated by better ideas with bigger and better guns!

JayVee on July 7, 2015 at 1:13 PM

A. Total moron
B. Traitorous bastard trying to destroy the nation.
C. A and B

justltl on July 7, 2015 at 1:14 PM

Is this how Obysmal won over the hearts and minds of Libya?

onlineanalyst on July 7, 2015 at 1:29 PM

1) This from the man who fancied himself the Drone Assassin as he personally chose targets and boasted about it?

2) The Tea Party groups had differing, supposedly inferior ideas to that of Obama and the Democrats. The better ideas didn’t win, or rather didn’t need to win, because Obama set the IRS dogs on the conservatives.

Between Obama and the Clintons, the goalposts are moved so often they now have caster wheels.

jangle12 on July 7, 2015 at 1:32 PM

The correct answer is C.

With each new comment or action of Obama, many continue to ask whether he is an absolute imbecile or whether he is a traitor and enemy within who somehow weaseled his way into the White House with the sole intention of inflicting grave harm on the Nation.

We must remember that the two characterizations are not mutually exclusive.

As it turns out, Obama is indeed the equivalent of an idiot savant, his sole skill being vocalization.
And as it also happens, Obama is a malignant narcissist and pathological liar. He is an anti-American racist and communist who is bent on harming the Nation.

So, C is indeed correct.

justltl on July 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM

Obysmal looks half in the bag in that screenshot.

onlineanalyst on July 7, 2015 at 1:54 PM

Obysmal prefers to defeat the free with mob rule. He calls such mob rule “democracy.”

Lowry is usually wimpy, but this is a good piece.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420822/george-takei-clarence-thomas-freakout-ignorance-liberty

onlineanalyst on July 7, 2015 at 2:12 PM

Ehud Barak, two days for Israel to take out Isis.

goatweed on July 7, 2015 at 2:17 PM

Better ideas such as… rifled bores? Indirect artillery fire? Guided munitions? If those are the types of better ideas he means in defeating ideologies, I will agree…

hungrymongo on July 7, 2015 at 2:43 PM

I’m rather surprised Obama’s statement is at all controversial with the right given that the ability of faiths to flourish under persecution is not only a truism but also a tenet of christianity (stemming from the experience of the early church).

Tlaloc on July 7, 2015 at 3:27 PM

Obama on ISIS: “Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas”

Yeah, just wishing it would all go away is going to take forever…

snoozinglion on July 7, 2015 at 3:35 PM

I’m rather surprised Obama’s statement is at all controversial with the right given that the ability of faiths to flourish under persecution is not only a truism but also a tenet of christianity (stemming from the experience of the early church).

Tlaloc on July 7, 2015 at 3:27 PM

Your lack of logic is truly awe-inspiring.

Did you even read what you wrote before you clicked “Submit Comment”?

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Also, allow me to join the ranks of the “deeply offended” and demand that you be immediately and harshly ostracized for your lack of tolerance of Christianity as evidenced by the small “c”. Off with your head/

hillbillyjim on July 7, 2015 at 3:51 PM

Obama on ISIS: . . .“Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas”

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That pretty much sums up how that moron thinks.

cajunpatriot on July 7, 2015 at 12:15 PM

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I can’t agree with you, on that … he would use GUNS, in the hands of government agents, to defeat our ideology, in an eye blink.

listens2glenn on July 7, 2015 at 3:56 PM

I’m rather surprised . . . . .

Tlaloc on July 7, 2015 at 3:27 PM

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Did you measure how far your nose shot-out there, after clicking on the “submit comment” button?

listens2glenn on July 7, 2015 at 4:00 PM

And in this one statement we now have the undeniable reason Jimmy Carter is a fan. Only this President is able to free Carter not merely from being the worst U.S. President ever (and from the grave Millard Fillmore and James Buchanan likewise breathe sighs of relief) but also bumps him from the pinnacle of “most clueless and destabilizing force in foreign affairs.” I mean wow!

And someone gave him a Nobel Peace Prize.

Peace peace…where there is no peace.

Doctor_ChristopherCOS on July 7, 2015 at 4:02 PM

Well then, the South would like an apology for all those killed by the North for their unnecessary use of violence during the Civil War.

raz0r on July 7, 2015 at 4:29 PM

What a putz. The day this knob leaves office is a day that should be long celebrated by America and the world.

potvin on July 7, 2015 at 4:30 PM

Adolf Hitler wasn’t able to refute Obama’s statement because Nazi Germany was brought to its knees with guns, tanks and old-fashioned American brute force.

LFRGary on July 7, 2015 at 4:36 PM

Well then, the South would like an apology for all those killed by the North for their unnecessary use of violence during the Civil War.

raz0r on July 7, 2015 at 4:29 PM

Chump change. I stand by what I said earlier:

And yet everything you have ever done in politics, every action you have ever taken, ultimately depends on the enforcement of that action by heavily armed people who, in effect, say “Do what I tell you or else.”

Every. Single. One.

How does that work, Mr. President? How is it that your own people won’t do the right thing except under the threat of force, and yet the most barbaric of your country’s enemies will do better if you wish at them hard enough?

GrumpyOldFart on July 6, 2015 at 6:11 PM

GrumpyOldFart on July 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM

In other words, he owes an apology to every single American.

GrumpyOldFart on July 7, 2015 at 5:58 PM

As though he actually knows someone with a good idea.

ghostwalker1 on July 7, 2015 at 6:56 PM

I keep flashing back to this tee shirt I have:

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff.150541965

NoPain on July 7, 2015 at 10:54 PM

When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.

NoPain on July 7, 2015 at 11:06 PM

Here is a winning idea, Mr President: resign.

virgo on July 8, 2015 at 12:37 AM

Better get more flowers for our military troops to stick in the barrels of ISIS guns. And hugs. We are going to have to equip them with more snugly hugs.

red villain on July 8, 2015 at 8:50 AM

When a ideology that deals with ideas meets an ideology that deals with ideas and is willing to use force, the question becomes which side runs out of resources first, people willing to die or bullets to be fired (and people willing to pull the trigger).

Russ808 on July 8, 2015 at 8:40 PM

Clearly, one of the most stupid and inane comments ever made by any candidate or President.

casaler on July 9, 2015 at 8:12 AM

So why do Obama, Jarrett, Axelrod, et al still cling to their failed ideology?

Geministorm on July 9, 2015 at 9:06 AM

Here are the dimwits at the Obama administration trying to work out a foreign policy;

Idea #1: We should abandon the field because everyone knows that it’s America’s fault that they’re fighting.
Result #1: They reasserted themselves or grew (ISIS) and violence increased.

Idea #2: Don’t get involved, let them work it out themselves!
Result #2: Green movement gets crushed by Iranian government.

Idea #3: Let’s lead from behind and make empty threats!
Result #3: Russia claimed Crimea, and filled the power vacuum when Syria called our bluff. Our enemies the world over see that Obama is an spineless and weak leader.

Idea #4: Let’s befriend them, they are our inspiration!
Result #4: Cuba became more totalitarian and violent.

Idea #5: Everyone deserves equal access to technology, America is so selfish and colonialist!
Idea #5: Freed from the sanctions and reacquiring access to billions of dollars, Iran resumes its nuclear ambitions and is aided by Russia and China.

Idea #6: People only become terrorists because they are poor and have no jobs. Let’s do an outreach program!
Result #6: ISIS continues to seek out ways to destroy America and institute Sharia law over a larger swath of land.

Idea #7: Superior ideologies win the day, not war!
Result #7: Obama remains ignorant of his idiocy, never realizing that his ideology has failed at every turn.

I don’t know if we could have even planned such a perfect storm of f***-up if we tried. If there is anything Obama and his administration/advisors are good at, it’s the undoing of the greatest society in history.

Geministorm on July 9, 2015 at 10:32 AM

Obama on ISIS: “Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas”

And if we don’t have any better ideas, injunctions! We’ll use injunctions!

Oop, I’m late for my tee time.

wagnert in atlanta on July 20, 2015 at 9:10 PM