No, nobody is getting deported for “minor drug offenses”

posted at 2:01 pm on June 16, 2015 by Jazz Shaw

Human Rights Watch has come out with a rather remarkable statistic which has caught the attention of multiple news outlets. It’s an indictment of the President and his border security policies, though not for letting too many illegal aliens into the nation. They’re claiming that massive numbers of “undocumented” immigrants are being deported for minor drug offenses.

Tens of thousands of families in the US are being torn apart by the Obama administration’s policy of deporting immigrants for drug offences, some as minor as possession of a tiny bag of marijuana, according to Human Rights Watch.

At a time of bi-partisan agreement when the criminal justice system is seen as needing to move away from harsh punishment of drug offenders under the so-called “war on drugs”, the human rights group claims the US government is paradoxically pushing in the opposite direction when it comes to immigrants.

Undocumented people, as well as permanent residents holding green cards, who have been convicted of drug offences are increasingly being deported without regard to their strong family ties in the US, the many years they have lived in the country, or the relative triviality of their crimes.

Based on freedom of information requests, the group found that between 2007 and 2012, post-conviction deportations for simple drug possession soared 43%. In those years, some 260,000 non-citizens were evicted from the country having been convicted of drug offences, of whom 34,000 had been caught in possession of marijuana.

More than a quarter million people deported for drug charges? Nearly 35,000 for marijuana possession? That’s incredible!

But in this case, I mean that previous comment in the much older, original meaning of the term, which is… not credible. Here’s the problem with the announcement. I won’t deny for a moment that plenty of people get arrested for drug related offenses and some of them are serious. But have you ever heard of a US citizen being deported as a result of a drug bust? No. With the possible exception of Timothy Leary, it’s never happened. If you have a huge stockpile of cocaine you’re probably going to go to a prison here in the United States. If you have a small bag of pot you might have to show up for a citation and a fine. But you won’t be deported.

The people in this story were not deported for “minor drug offenses.” They were deported because they are illegal aliens. The drugs were only what caught the attention of the authorities in the first place. If the system were working as intended and fully funded and staffed, that would happen every time somebody who is here illegally was nabbed for jaywalking. Of course, that’s not happening today for reasons which we’ve discussed at length, but that’s how it’s supposed to work. Breaking our immigration laws is far more serious than having a dime bag.

But I suppose this creates a good talking point for those favoring “comprehensive immigration reform.” Don’t be fooled. This has nothing to do with drugs.


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No, nobody is getting deported for “minor drug offenses

Yes we should let all the cartel members operate w/ impunity in this country, don’t want to hurt their bottom line.

Redstone on June 16, 2015 at 2:04 PM

Seems to me the government is paying lots more attention to citing people for jaywalking than it is going after major crimes these days. Especially when it comes to Royalty.

ConstantineXI on June 16, 2015 at 2:05 PM

How about deporting people for voting Democrat?

It’s a start. :)

Brian1972 on June 16, 2015 at 2:05 PM

How about deporting people for voting Democrat?

It’s a start. :)

Brian1972 on June 16, 2015 at 2:05 PM

I’m ok with that. Why not?

How about kicking the Red States out of the union? I’m for that too. I’m sure we won’t miss the blue states OR DC.

ConstantineXI on June 16, 2015 at 2:10 PM

Seems to me the government is paying lots more attention to citing people for jaywalking than it is going after major crimes these days. Especially when it comes to Royalty.

ConstantineXI on June 16, 2015 at 2:05 PM

Figured this out long ago. Major crime arrests cost lots of time and money to prosecute. Fines, however, are cheap and easy revenue enhancers.

ROCnPhilly on June 16, 2015 at 2:12 PM

But have you ever heard of a US citizen being deported as a result of a drug bust?

Um, Jazz, why are you talking about deporting US citizens when the piece is about illegal aliens.

Last legal immigrant to be deported was probably Emma Goldman.

rbj on June 16, 2015 at 2:12 PM

I’ve always thought it odd that people in the country illegally would want to tempt deportation by engaging in illegal activity. I mean, really, to risk getting sent back to the same sh*thole you risked everything to get the hell out of because… shoplifting? Tell you what that makes you, honey: Useless.

spd rdr on June 16, 2015 at 2:12 PM

How about deporting people for voting Democrat?

It’s a start. :)

Brian1972 on June 16, 2015 at 2:05 PM

Hospitalized as dangerously insane, not deported. Few object when a person who slaughtered a baby with a knife for absolutely no reason gets forcibly institutionalized, yet people voting to support those who do so are left to prowl the streets?

Rix on June 16, 2015 at 2:13 PM

Why not?

Count to 10 on June 16, 2015 at 2:15 PM

HRW can pound sand with their BS analysis. They completely ignore the fact these are likely plea deals or charges that would stick because other more serious charges wouldn’t.

antipc on June 16, 2015 at 2:15 PM

Maybe not technically deportation, but involuntary relocation to “communities” that can be set up on several of the dozens of uninhabited Aleutian Islands in the North Pacific, and conveniently forget to supply any voting infrastructure.

Brian1972 on June 16, 2015 at 2:16 PM

In those years, some 260,000 non-citizens were evicted from the country having been convicted of drug offences, of whom 34,000 had been caught in possession of marijuana.

So, why is it we can apparently deport illegals in possession of such small amounts of drugs, but we can’t deport illegals with prior felony convictions or are awaiting trial and then they go out and kill someone?

121 Americans dead because of an inept and spineless administration.

Patriot Vet on June 16, 2015 at 2:23 PM

But have you ever heard of a US citizen being deported as a result of a drug bust?

Um, Jazz, why are you talking about deporting US citizens when the piece is about illegal aliens.

Last legal immigrant to be deported was probably Emma Goldman.

rbj on June 16, 2015 at 2:12 PM

Reading comprehension requires the reader to read contextually. The first two sentences in the very next paragraph:

The people in this story were not deported for “minor drug offenses.” They were deported because they are illegal aliens.

The point he’s making is they were not deported for marijuana possession. They were deported for being in the country illegally.

Mitoch55 on June 16, 2015 at 2:25 PM

Um, Jazz, why are you talking about deporting US citizens when the piece is about illegal aliens.

rbj on June 16, 2015 at 2:12 PM

I think that’s the point — people don’t get deported for drug offenses, they get deported for being in the country illegally.

Sockpuppet Politic on June 16, 2015 at 2:26 PM

Tens of thousands of families in the US are being torn apart by the Obama administration’s policy of deporting immigrants for drug offences…

As it is likely the whole family is illegal, deport the lot – problem solved.

F X Muldoon on June 16, 2015 at 2:28 PM

Missing the pjoint

FIFY

Deafdog on June 16, 2015 at 2:32 PM

What if, as a deterrent policy, we began deporting illegal aliens not to their country of origin, but to Antarctica.

It would cut down on repeat offenders, wouldn’t it?

I don’t mean the science station, either. Deep inland. :)

Brian1972 on June 16, 2015 at 2:34 PM

OT: St Louis Cardinals under FBI investigation for hacking Houston Astros

ConstantineXI on June 16, 2015 at 2:32 PM

Compare and contrast the records of the Astros and Cardinals for the past 6 years. Why would anyone in their right mind want to hack the Astros’ player databases?

Mitoch55 on June 16, 2015 at 2:54 PM

So, why is it we can apparently deport illegals in possession of such small amounts of drugs, but we can’t deport illegals with prior felony convictions or are awaiting trial and then they go out and kill someone?

121 Americans dead because of an inept and spineless administration.

Patriot Vet on June 16, 2015 at 2:23 PM

It’s pretty hard for illegal aliens to get deported for anything these days.

bw222 on June 16, 2015 at 2:55 PM

But have you ever heard of a US citizen being deported as a result of a drug bust?

The point he’s making is they were not deported for marijuana possession. They were deported for being in the country illegally.

Mitoch55 on June 16, 2015 at 2:25 PM

That would be fine, except that the piece Jazz is referring to never makes the claim that citizens are being deported for drug possession. The piece is very clear that they are talking about “undocumented” immigrants and permanent residents with green cards. Why Jazz felt the need to make this particular rhetorical point is beyond me. Perhaps Jazz felt the need to indulge today, secure in the knowledge that he won’t be deported like Emma Goldman.

Undocumented people, as well as permanent residents holding green cards, who have been convicted of drug offences are increasingly being deported without regard to their strong family ties in the US, the many years they have lived in the country, or the relative triviality of their crimes.

Based on freedom of information requests, the group found that between 2007 and 2012, post-conviction deportations for simple drug possession soared 43%. In those years, some 260,000 non-citizens were evicted from the country having been convicted of drug offences, of whom 34,000 had been caught in possession of marijuana.

Good. It’s a start. As Jazz does point out in a more lucid moment, illegals who are arrested for any crime should be deported immediately.

25 percent is the number I’ve seen thrown around as to the percentage of our prison population that is made up of illegals. That while sensitive Republicans are blithering about our crowded prisons and the need for reform, and while liberals are letting criminals loose into the population because or crowding and “underfunding”. Here’s my prison reform proposal: deport the 25 percent and fill up the beds with native born criminals, including wretched little hipster hop heads.

Joseph K on June 16, 2015 at 3:04 PM

this human rights watch group needs to pay more attention to whats happening in the middle east. there are a lot more human rights violations occurring on their watch in the middle east than here in the u.s.

jetch on June 16, 2015 at 3:15 PM

Perhaps Jazz felt the need to indulge today, secure in the knowledge that he won’t be deported like Emma Goldman.

Joseph K on June 16, 2015 at 3:04 PM

Emma Goldman was born in Lithuania and was never an American Citizen.

RickB on June 16, 2015 at 3:48 PM

Obama lets thousands of illegal alien murders and rapists loose in the US so why bother with all these drug dealers. Welcome to America.

leader4hru on June 16, 2015 at 4:14 PM

Meanwhile, at least 121 illegals released into the US since 2010 have committed homicide since.

Any crime including misdemeanors should be sufficient if you are here illegally. One conviction should earn a ticket on the first boat home. No more releasing of criminals.

Adjoran on June 16, 2015 at 5:07 PM

What if, as a deterrent policy, we began deporting illegal aliens not to their country of origin, but to Antarctica.

It would cut down on repeat offenders, wouldn’t it?

I don’t mean the science station, either. Deep inland. :)

Brian1972 on June 16, 2015 at 2:34 PM

Penquins strongly object,

katy the mean old lady on June 16, 2015 at 5:20 PM

How about deporting people for voting Democrat?

It’s a start. :)

Brian1972 on June 16, 2015 at 2:05 PM

Doubt it will help any. Many Democrat voters are already locked in wooden boxes underground with a stone slab above them, and yet they always manage to vote in record numbers anyway…

Gingotts on June 16, 2015 at 5:52 PM