Video: Who were those “science advisors” behind the NY fracking ban?

posted at 6:41 pm on June 8, 2015 by Jazz Shaw

Last week we talked about the bombshell EPA report which said that fracking didn’t have any demonstrated, systemic effect on ground water quality. (Well, it was a “bombshell” unless you work at the NY Times, which didn’t find that it merited much of a mention.) One of the places most affected by this information should be New York State, where Governor Andrew Cuomo relied on “expert scientific advice” to ban the practice indefinitely. This has resulted in an incredible prosperity gap between New York and Pennsylvania, as I wrote about in A Tale of Two Counties and Fracking.

Now the truth has come out and we are left wondering precisely who all of these brain trust science minds were who advised Governor Cuomo as he considered the fracking ban. In their usual helpful fashion, Energy In Depth has released a video which gives you a tour of this panel of acclaimed experts and how they relate to the scientific debate over fracking. You won’t believe what they found. Let’s give this short video a look before proceeding.

Mark Ruffalo, Yoko Ono and Sean Lennon are all involved in the scrum. But the interesting bits come from the allegedly science based folks. Al Armendariz, a former EPA regional administrator, tells a story about how he likes to get people’s attention. He compares his “educational” efforts to the Romans coming into a town and crucifying a few people as soon as they arrive.

And then that town was really easy to manage for the next five years.

Sandra Steingraber peer reviewed the report leading to the ban. You may not know her name, but she is a co-founder of New Yorkers Against Fracking. (Thank God they went to unbiased sources, eh?) She signed a statement for purposes of the report saying that she had “no competing interests” in registering her opinion and review. She also gave a speech (shown in the video) where she demonstrates that she believes that fracking involves “lowering explosives into the hole. BOOM.”

The scientific knowledge on display here is truly dizzying. (The fracturing is done with pressure, not explosives. But she’s an “expert” so what do I know?) Oh, and she’s also the person who said that fracking was part of the war on women because the only jobs for females coming from fracking were for “hotel maids and prostitutes.” I’d love to share that with some of the female gas field riggers I personally know. They must be thrilled.

Possibly one of the best lines comes from Anthony Ingraffea, founder of a prominent anti-fracking group. He explains how Mark Ruffalo has more than a million Twitter followers and he sends Mark 140 characters once in a while and Ruffalo just shoots them out without question.

He’s my megaphone.

These are the experts that Governor Cuomo relied on to institute the ban. Enjoy the video, assuming you don’t vomit during it. (In which case I apologize in advance.)


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All have PHD’s from fraud University ,,, East Anglaia University.

Their real e-mails are up for reading at;;

http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/

Lies kill, it does not matter who the liar is or where the liar was educated.

Lies do kill.

CO2 is a plant food.

Fracking is also known as well completion, complete wells put food on tables, win wars, keep babies warm, keep fire and police protection, the elecytricy to keep the TV’s and Cell Phones running.

Truth is life.

Seek truth or die.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 8, 2015 at 6:53 PM

Should I know that dude in the scarf and glasses?

rogerb on June 8, 2015 at 6:58 PM

No Al Gore? BTW, when will we be banning the far more destructive force from the release of his Second Chakra?

ShainS on June 8, 2015 at 7:00 PM

It’s a good thing John Effen Kerry didn’t bring fracking expert Yoko Ono to sing to the French. Those people had suffered enough already.

whatcat on June 8, 2015 at 7:04 PM

FNY.

vnvet on June 8, 2015 at 7:11 PM

Good Lord, does anyone anywhere still consider Yoko Ono to be an artist?

Flyovercountry on June 8, 2015 at 7:12 PM

Mark Ruffalo, Yoko Ono and Sean Lennon are all involved in the scrum.


A lying liberal governor relied on lying liberals to lie about things on which they are NOT experts?

Hot air will go to ANY lengths to completely ignore what is happening with the GOPe / GOPe Donor Class controlled Congress in D.C., won’t they?

Gee … I wonder WHO sets this policy?

Ed?

Or his bosses?

Or his bosses’ bosses?

It’s like They Are Not Even There

Impossible to quantify the contempt I feel for the Hot Air editors – just impossible.

PolAgnostic on June 8, 2015 at 7:17 PM

That’s pretty funny.

Blake on June 8, 2015 at 7:17 PM

Who need science whenever you’ve already determined the answer.

Deadeye on June 8, 2015 at 7:32 PM

Nice piece, Jazz.

jaime on June 8, 2015 at 7:35 PM

First, she breaks up the Beatles and now this. Andrew Cuomo is an A-hole.

magicbeans on June 8, 2015 at 7:38 PM

The Cuomo brothers are experts themselves on a multitude of subjects….

d1carter on June 8, 2015 at 7:45 PM

Had Armendariz been an EPA official in, say New York at the time, he might of survived. But since he was the EPA guy assigned to oversee Texas, even Democrats there freaked out that Al was going to hurt them come election time and he was gone … apparently to a locale more suited to his midset of coming up with his conclusion first and then making the facts fit it.

jon1979 on June 8, 2015 at 7:46 PM

It’s Team America and the Film Actors Guild…

“We will read the newspapers and then tell the people what we read as our own opinions because we’re important.”

Oh and… Matt Daymun…

Skywise on June 8, 2015 at 7:57 PM

Hmmmm…..just like all the actors wearing Lab Coats during the ObamaCare rollout.

GarandFan on June 8, 2015 at 8:07 PM

From the Beatles’ “The Ballad of Yoko and John”:

“The way things are going, they’re gonna crucify me.”

Had Yoko Ono met Al Armendariz by then?

Then there’s the guy who wants to be a megaphone. Most power plants in the Northeast run on natural gas. If they stop fracking, there won’t be any power to run their megaphones. Which should be music to everyone else’s ears.

Steve Z on June 8, 2015 at 8:20 PM

PolAgnostic on June 8, 2015 at 7:17 PM

Hey, when your losing the debate start yelling about something completely off subject. It’s almost as effective as crucifying the first 5 people in the village.

Gwillie on June 8, 2015 at 8:43 PM

Not to pick nits, but fracking quite often does involve the use of some explosives. The formation is often “opened” through the use of specialty explosive charges that are designed to fracture the formation immediately around the well-bore. After that, the fracturing fluid is pumped in, along with propping sand, and pushed out into the formation. The sand keeps the fractures from closing up as soon as pressure is relieved.

As explosions go, they aren’t very big, and you’d never know it happened unless you were watching some very sensitive seismic readouts.

And some formations can be fracked with just hydraulic pressure (a whole lot of that).

DaveK on June 8, 2015 at 8:50 PM

So we’ve established that the Green, “Other Guy” is smarter than Yoko Ono, David Cuomo, *And* Mark Ruffalo…Awseome!

(Also, did anyone else noticed I used all the Stupid people with “O” at the end of their names? …TAKE THAT, HANS BRIX!!)

a5minmajor on June 8, 2015 at 9:27 PM

Not to pick nits,
DaveK on June 8, 2015 at 8:50 PM

I was going to pick that nit as well but I didn’t feel like Goggling it to be sure I was picking the right nit or someone would pick my nit right back.

Gwillie on June 8, 2015 at 10:13 PM

Not to pick nits, but fracking quite often does involve the use of some explosives. The formation is often “opened” through the use of specialty explosive charges that are designed to fracture the formation immediately around the well-bore. After that, the fracturing fluid is pumped in, along with propping sand, and pushed out into the formation. The sand keeps the fractures from closing up as soon as pressure is relieved.

As explosions go, they aren’t very big, and you’d never know it happened unless you were watching some very sensitive seismic readouts.

And some formations can be fracked with just hydraulic pressure (a whole lot of that).

DaveK on June 8, 2015 at 8:50 PM

You are referring to peroration guns. They are a shaped charge that essentially burns a hole into the steel casing for the frac fluid to go into the rock and fracture it. The guns don’t create any significant fracturing, it’s the fluids that do that.

iurockhead on June 8, 2015 at 10:31 PM

Oops. Perforation.

iurockhead on June 8, 2015 at 10:32 PM

First, she breaks up the Beatles and now this. Andrew Cuomo is an A-hole.

magicbeans on June 8, 2015 at 7:38 PM

In all fairness, so was John Lennon. I guess Yoko just brings that out in people.

BillH on June 9, 2015 at 4:00 AM

A lying liberal governor relied on lying liberals to lie about things on which they are NOT experts?

Hot air will go to ANY lengths to completely ignore what is happening with the GOPe / GOPe Donor Class controlled Congress in D.C., won’t they?

Gee … I wonder WHO sets this policy?

Ed?

Or his bosses?

Or his bosses’ bosses?

It’s like They Are Not Even There

Impossible to quantify the contempt I feel for the Hot Air editors – just impossible.

PolAgnostic on June 8, 2015 at 7:17 PM

By the by, how are all those GOP congressweasels doing at rolling back the regulatory regime like they promised us they were going to?

/crickets

gryphon202 on June 9, 2015 at 5:53 AM

Should I know that dude in the scarf and glasses?

rogerb on June 8, 2015 at 6:58 PM

Yes, you should. He’s so loved and admired, his life was the inspiration to help some fictional super heroes here defeat their worst foes.

Occams Stubble on June 9, 2015 at 7:41 AM

Yeah, this is pretty emblematic of the left’s understanding of science.

Star Bird on June 9, 2015 at 8:14 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rVE7haSLmE

It’s okay, I’ve played a scientist before.

GrumpyOldFart on June 9, 2015 at 9:57 AM

Yoko Ono should still be in jail for killing the Beetles.

John, WTF?

hawkdriver on June 9, 2015 at 12:14 PM

Good Lord, does anyone anywhere still consider Yoko Ono to be an artist?

Flyovercountry on June 8, 2015 at 7:12 PM

Still????

ricoliv on June 9, 2015 at 3:30 PM

Not to pick nits, but fracking quite often does involve the use of some explosives. The formation is often “opened” through the use of specialty explosive charges that are designed to fracture the formation immediately around the well-bore. After that, the fracturing fluid is pumped in, along with propping sand, and pushed out into the formation. The sand keeps the fractures from closing up as soon as pressure is relieved.

Yes, but to pick back, the feminazi in the video clip is claiming (very strongly and falsely implying) that explosives are delivered into a completely drilled hole, when in fact the only time explosives are necessary is to shape the upper portion of the well. No explosives are used below a depth where water-tables come into play. That is the entire point with hydraulic fracturing, you’re using non-detonating pressure to separate bedrock material and acquire the valuable products. Explosions below the water table can have serious and unpredictable results, almost all of them bad for business, as well as the environment. Unlike fracking which is quite benign.

Freelancer on June 9, 2015 at 4:06 PM