Bernie Sanders 1972: Men fantasize about abusing women, women fantasize about being raped

posted at 3:21 pm on May 28, 2015 by Allahpundit

In his defense, the odds that an avowed socialist writing in the early 1970s might have been high when formulating his opinions have to be north of 90 percent.

According to various psychological surveys conducted over the past 40 years, somewhere between 31 and 57 percent of women confess to having rape fantasies, with the true number doubtless higher given the reluctance of some to admit that they’ve had thoughts like that. A survey published last year claimed that 29 percent of women had fantasized about being forced to have sex while 60 percent of men had fantasized about “dominating” someone sexually. Should any of that stop us from wringing every drop of political pain for Democrats from this?

No. No, it should not.

“A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy,” wrote Sanders. “A woman on her knees.  A woman tied up.  A woman abused.”

Sanders didn’t specify as to how he had gained such a  deep understanding of the male psyche.

In terms of his understanding of female sexual fantasies, Sanders provided similar insight.

“A woman enjoys intercourse with her man–as she fantasizes about being raped by 3 men simultaneously.”

Charles Cooke acknowledges that if any Republican in the race had written something like that, however long ago, not only would he be hounded by the media over it but so would every other Republican in the race and even prominent Republicans not in the race, purely for the war-on-women squirm factor involved. It would be a days-long lefty “rape culture” media jamboree. And yet, says Cooke, we should take the high road:

Bernie Sanders wrote these words in 1972. Maybe he was young and foolish. Maybe he was a different man back then? Maybe society was unrecognizable and he had bought into all sorts of faddish psychology. Who knows? And frankly, who cares? Sure, the Democratic party would crucify a Republican for the same offense. But they shouldn’t. A society in which people are drummed out of politics for words they wrote 43 years ago is an ugly society indeed. Sometimes the best way to address hypocrisy is to take the high road. This is America: land of second chances. This is a place of redemption and of reinvention and of continual learning. Nobody honestly believes that Bernie Sanders is a sexual pervert or that he is a misogynist or that he intends to do women any harm. Nobody suspects that he harbors a secret desire to pass intrusive legislation or to cut gang rapists a break. Really, there is only one reason that anyone would make hay of this story, and that is to damage the man politically. Perhaps I’m old-fashioned. Perhaps I’m hopelessly idealistic. But until I see any sign of actual wrongdoing I’d much prefer to slam Sanders for his dangerous and ridiculous politics than to delve back into his past and embarrass him with a long-forgotten opinion. I certainly hope that my fellow conservatives will feel the same way, even if they do not enjoy the same courtesy from their adversaries.

But it won’t damage him politically. That’s the Democratic advantage. This is a fart in the wind, something he might be asked about once in a check-the-box way by a reporter who’ll be only too happy to treat it as some sort of curio of youthful dunderheadedness. He’s positioned himself as the most ostentatiously left-wing member of the Senate; he’s running, kinda sorta, as a left-wing alternative to Hillary Clinton. Short of child porn turning up on his computer, there’s virtually nothing he could say or do sexually that the left won’t dismiss as irrelevant. In fact, follow the first link up top and you’ll see that his deep thoughts on rape were part of a piece about women being conditioned to crave subservience and degradation because of their traditional dependence on men. Why, Bernie’s a gender warrior! Even so, why not make him and Hillary squirm by forcing them to comment? The only way you’ll convince liberals to take Cooke’s sober approach to decades-old thoughtcrimes is to make them taste the injustice of it, even for a day instead of the two-week fiesta that would greet some analogous Republican comment. It’s the same impulse as demanding that Hillary be asked when she thinks life begins or how many genders she believes there are. It’s not that the election will turn on her answers, it’s that forcing the left and their friends in the media to experience the discomfort of a gotcha may lead them to be more circumspect in using that strategy against the right.

Anyway. Via Reason, here’s Remy paying tribute to another, even deeper deep thought from Senator Socialist.


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Why do we have to be belittled like this???

rnb on May 28, 2015 at 9:40 PM

Speaking of farm animals, I’ve seen women with horses. You’d be surprised how strange and demented people are. I don’t hate.

rnb on May 28, 2015 at 9:43 PM

Why do we have to be belittled like this???

Just trying to create the environment in which you usually find yourself, Hambone.

F X Muldoon on May 28, 2015 at 9:43 PM

I don’t have any trouble taking the high road here. This is an older gentleman and this nutty stuff doesn’t hurt anyone. I just can’t be offended by this. Wish I could say the same about some of the comments here. Anonymity is a good thing.

Cindy Munford on May 28, 2015 at 9:44 PM

Just trying to create the environment in which you usually find yourself, Hambone.

F X Muldoon on May 28, 2015 at 9:43 PM

Can’t we all just get along, like Rodney said?

rnb on May 28, 2015 at 9:45 PM

but men’s sex drives unchecked by society and laws are very dangerous….look at wars where the winning side routinely rape the women of the losing side (a lot of those rapists are ‘normal’ men)

nonpartisan on May 28, 2015 at 9:35 PM

Check this out. If they had guns that the police could disable if the user was doing bad stuff then thinbgs would be better.

Lemme axe you sumpin else. Are you ever wrong and just say “yes”? A week or two ago you shit and split with your “where’s the Waco biker shooting coverage”? After being schooled ya just slunk off like you always do.

arnold ziffel on May 28, 2015 at 9:49 PM

You’d be surprised how strange and demented people are.

Nonsense, we have you, “non”partisan, tlaloc, urban effetist, and a whole host of others who continually raise the bar on strange and demented.

F X Muldoon on May 28, 2015 at 9:49 PM

DEMOCRACY IS NOT FOR SALE!!!

Except at Bernie Sander’s campaign store.

Star Bird on May 28, 2015 at 9:52 PM

Star Bird on May 28, 2015 at 9:52 PM

Do you wonder if you claimed to be poor whether the good socialist would redistribute some of his campaign swag your way ?

F X Muldoon on May 28, 2015 at 9:57 PM

Speaking of farm animals, I’ve seen women with horses. You’d be surprised how strange and demented people are. I don’t hate.

Yeah but horses have humungous weeners so who can blame ’em?

Moron Labe on May 28, 2015 at 10:02 PM

Do you wonder if you claimed to be poor whether the good socialist would redistribute some of his campaign swag your way ?

F X Muldoon on May 28, 2015 at 9:57 PM

Not exactly.

Star Bird on May 28, 2015 at 10:10 PM

you’re such a beta, you disgust

nonpartisan on May 28, 2015 at 9:31 PM

Real women scare you. Badly.

Mommys Little Darling on May 28, 2015 at 10:24 PM

Yeah but horses have humungous weeners so who can blame ‘em?

Moron Labe on May 28, 2015 at 10:02 PM

I certainly don’t blame them.

rnb on May 28, 2015 at 10:28 PM

you’re such a beta, you disgust

nonpartisan on May 28, 2015 at 9:31 PM

Real women scare you. Badly.

What is more comic is that “non”partisan could only hope to rise (please pardon the pun) to being a beta as he is probably a lambda.

F X Muldoon on May 28, 2015 at 10:30 PM

What is more comic is that “non”partisan could only hope to rise (please pardon the pun) to being a beta as he is probably a lambda.

F X Muldoon on May 28, 2015 at 10:30 PM

You’re being generous. I was thinking sigma, myself.

Mommys Little Darling on May 28, 2015 at 10:32 PM

I was thinking sigma, myself.

Are you sure you weren’t confusing that with sigmoid ?

F X Muldoon on May 28, 2015 at 10:41 PM

Bernie Sanders wrote these words in 1972. Maybe he was young and foolish.

And now he’s old and foolish. By my reckoning, he was 31 when he wrote this.

Not to psychoanalyze too much, but this is why you should not go for a weekend at Bernie’s:

“A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy,” wrote Sanders. “A woman on her knees. A woman tied up. A woman abused.”

I would read his entire treatise, but I’m too busy fantasizing about him being the nominee.

virgo on May 28, 2015 at 10:52 PM

I would read his entire treatise, but I’m too busy fantasizing about him being the nominee.

virgo on May 28, 2015 at 10:52 PM

Don’t you think this little revelation is the work of the Clintons?

Cindy Munford on May 28, 2015 at 11:03 PM

you’re such a beta, you disgust

nonpartisan on May 28, 2015 at 9:31 PM

I wrote you a love letter at 9:49 where you be bi*ch?

arnold ziffel on May 28, 2015 at 11:32 PM

Bernie Sanders 1972: Men fantasize about abusing women

You can’t fool me, Bernie’s a progressive. He dreams of a 90% tax rate.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on May 29, 2015 at 12:12 AM

Well, this is right up there with other :weird science: such as “children are sexual” — the Kinsey Position.

unclesmrgol on May 29, 2015 at 1:25 AM

According to various psychological surveys conducted over the past 40 years, somewhere between 31 and 57 percent of women confess to having rape fantasies, with the true number doubtless higher given the reluctance of some to admit that they’ve had thoughts like that.

Who participates in such surveys? Your surveys don’t account for the 90% who slam the phone in your ear. Or you ask for participants to come to you and participate in a kinky sex survey and then report the results as correlating to the general public.

Buddahpundit on May 29, 2015 at 5:17 AM

Nobody honestly believes that Bernie Sanders is a sexual pervert or that he is a misogynist or that he intends to do women any harm.

WT bloody F??? That is absolute and utter bullshit! Of course he is!

Here. Read this again, straight from Sanders himself:

“A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy,” wrote Sanders. “A woman on her knees. A woman tied up. A woman abused.”

I have news for you. That is not normal. That is not the standard thinking of mentally healthy men. The guy is a freak.
And of course the Left will love and defend this looney dirtball – above all, because he is their looney dirtball- one of them politically- a fellow traveler- a Leftist. But also remember, as I keep harping, Leftists are control freaks and sadistic. So that sick little fantasy of Sanders is perfectly in keeping with that. Leftists will additionally try to pawn this type of thinking off as normal, because it helps in their goals to define deviancy downward and further the moral and social decay of American society.
And to the lunatic leftist females, it represents a confirmation of what they already believe – that all men are pigs.

justltl on May 29, 2015 at 5:38 AM

Sad attempt at satire is his excuse

Puhleeze

Even the morning Joe panel says if a gop candidate said this, he’d be toast

cmsinaz on May 29, 2015 at 6:05 AM

Sad attempt at satire is his excuse

cmsinaz on May 29, 2015 at 6:05 AM

More like an inadvertent display of projection.

justltl on May 29, 2015 at 6:29 AM

As usual, conservatives are making a mountain out of a molehill. You can tell they have nothing when the resort to the “if a Republican had done/said/written this….” ploy.

urban elitist on May 28, 2015 at 4:03 PM

Translation: “All socialists and leftists fantasize about raping others, it’s what urban elitists do, so what’s the big deal?”

dominigan on May 29, 2015 at 7:25 AM

justltl on May 29, 2015 at 6:29 AM

indeed

cmsinaz on May 29, 2015 at 7:26 AM

I fantasize about abusing Bernie Sanders. Same difference.

Old Country Boy on May 29, 2015 at 9:14 AM

I fantasize about abusing Bernie Sanders. Same difference.

Old Country Boy on May 29, 2015 at 9:14 AM

And Bernie Sanders fantasizes about waving his swarthy socialist armpits in front of your face.

Star Bird on May 29, 2015 at 10:23 AM

Don’t you think this little revelation is the work of the Clintons?

Cindy Munford on May 28, 2015 at 11:03 PM

Yes, that thought crossed my mind, but the link goes back to MRC, so its conservative research. Leftists won’t take it seriously until Rolling Stone gets it’s top investigator on it.

virgo on May 29, 2015 at 10:26 AM

What is more comic is that “non”partisan could only hope to rise (please pardon the pun) to being a beta as he is probably a lambda.

F X Muldoon on May 28, 2015 at 10:30 PM

Actually more like NAMBLA.

Neitherleftorright on May 29, 2015 at 11:06 AM

what he said wasn’t stupid, it was honest. believe me, a lot if not most men (who would never admit this) have fantasies of sexually abusing women.

nonpartisan on May 28, 2015 at 9:10 PM

Typical leftist thought process, “I do this, so everyone must do this, or I must compel them to do this.”

Neitherleftorright on May 29, 2015 at 11:11 AM

Bunch of liars in here.

rnb on May 28, 2015 at 9:25 PM

Another typical leftist, “I lie like mad to make my point, so everyone else is a liar too.”

Neitherleftorright on May 29, 2015 at 11:16 AM

Bush’s Drunk driving was news for about two days. The fact that he dodged a year of service was material. I still find it interesting that he could provide no proof at all that he was lived in Alabama for the missing year. Laura Bush was handled with kid gloves even though she apparently killed somebody.

urban effetist on May 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM

Such willful ignorance is fun to watch.

Bush’s drunk driving became news just a few days before the election that he was running in, and it impacted that election.

And just last year, Politifact dragged the story up again, 14 years later. Please don’t insult our intelligence. Hell, I even found a story from last week (May 20, 2015) babbling about it.

F- #1.

As for Bush and the National Guard, in the summer of 2004 your fellow Democrats at al-Associated Press successfully sued the Bush White House, and they released all of Bush’s military history. It proved that you’re an unusually bad liar, and easily taken in by conspiracy theories. Because it showed that there was no “one year dodging of service”. It’s also interesting that you happily voted for a Democrat for Vice President who dodged the draft as many times (5) as the evil Dick Cheney.

F- #2.

And to add insult to injury, right after al-AP got the Bush military records, they then immediately turned around and conspired woth Bush’s Democrat “opponent” that year to keep his entire military history a secret. The fact that you had absolutely no problem with such a hypocritical double standard being applied is why we can’t take your alleged “intellect” seriously here-it’s all a sham.

F- #3.

Del Dolemonte on May 29, 2015 at 11:52 AM

Laura Bush was handled with kid gloves even though she apparently killed somebody.

urban effetist on May 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM

LOL! Talk about jumping the shark. Thanks for admitting that you Democrats do have a double standard for candidates.

F+

Del Dolemonte on May 29, 2015 at 11:54 AM

Bush’s Drunk driving was news for about two days.

urban effetist on May 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM

Funny how “about two days” has magically extended into 14 years! Only on your planet, Minerva…

Fox Sports, October 11, 2014.

Aussie tennis legend Newcombe spills details on George W. Bush’s DUI arrest

Australian tennis legend John Newcombe revealed new details about the drunk driving incident that threatened to derail George W. Bush’s bid for presidency when it emerged just four days before the 2000 election.

The seven-time singles Grand Slam title winner was George W’s drinking partner that fateful Labor Day weekend in 1976 when the future president was arrested for DUI. Newcombe told the Sydney Morning Herald that he and W., whom he called “a bit of a party boy in those days,” had engaged in a beery drink-off at a local Kennebunkport, Maine, bar before the arrest.

“I noticed that George was sort of eyeing me off,” Newcombe recalled. “So I put on a bit of a pace and he’d keep pace with me.”

And another “about two days” Bush DUI story, this time from 2010.

One of the overlooked details of the forever-fight over the widely-debated conservative leanings of the Fox News Channel (besides the fact that a third of its viewers are Democrats) is that it was Fox that broke the then-shocking story in 2000 of candidate George W. Bush’s 24-year-old DUI charges.

Why, you wonder, would an old Maine story matter, regardless of the source?

The breaking story of Bush’s unrevealed 1976 DUI charges in Maine came just four days before the 2000 election. The Bush-Cheney ticket was tied then in national polls with the Democrats’ Gore-Lieberman ticket and was, in fact, ahead in Maine.

Bush ended up losing Maine to the Democrats the next Tuesday and several other states by narrow margins. Had the Republicans won those electoral votes, there never would have been any Florida recount, hanging chad controversy or Supreme Court case. Florida’s electoral votes wouldn’t have changed anything.

Del Dolemonte on May 29, 2015 at 12:28 PM

The Collective has now ordered its drones to recite the following:

1972 “Rape” Essay “Was Intended To Attack Gender Stereotypes Of The ’70s”

Tlaloc, we’ll expect your devoted recitation of this in the thread below.

Star Bird on May 29, 2015 at 12:59 PM

It’s a ploy when you say: “this is minor stuff, but if a Republican had said it…” And get all outraged over some improbable hypothetical.

urban elitist on May 28, 2015 at 6:46 PM

See “Bush lied about WMDs to get us into a war in Iraq.” Improbable from day one, proven to be untrue within 5 years… and still going strong in leftist outrage, a decade and a half later.

You were saying?

GrumpyOldFart on May 29, 2015 at 1:20 PM