No biggie: Your Obamacare premiums are going up. Way up in some cases.

posted at 4:01 pm on May 23, 2015 by Jazz Shaw

The “Affordable” Care Act may be looking for a new name in the near future. As Fox News and the Wall Street Journal are reporting, the next round of health care premium cost adjustments are coming down the pike, and you’ll never guess where things are heading. Okay… you probably guessed already.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting today that Obamacare rates are about to shoot up, in some cases as much as 40%. The rate increases requested by insurance carriers vary state by state, but the overall picture is bad.

“In New Mexico, market leader Health Care Service Corp. is asking for an average jump of 51.6% in premiums for 2016,” the Journal reports. “The biggest insurer in Tennessee, BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee, has requested an average 36.3% increase. In Maryland, market leader CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield wants to raise rates 30.4% across its products. Moda Health, the largest insurer on the Oregon health exchange, seeks an average boost of around 25%.”

The Washington Examiner reported today that in Oregon the primary insurance carrier is facing costs (payouts) exceeding premiums (income) by just over 60%. “Moda Health, which serves roughly half of (Oregon’s) individual market, is aiming to raise rates by an average of 25.6 percent. As Jed Graham of Investor’s Business Daily noted, Moda’s costs for 2014 – the first year of Obamacare’s exchanges — exceeded its premiums by 61.5 percent.”

Not all of the states are looking at rate increases in that range. Some of them are “only” going to be asking for increases in the ten percent range. But the direction is still consistent, and it isn’t down. You may recall that during the entire debate in the run up to the passage of Obamacare we were assured that one of the overarching purposes of the legislation was to halt the skyrocketing cost of health insurance, as well as making sure that more people could afford it. We were told this tale by Nancy Pelosi, though she later seemed to have forgotten saying it. Later, the message was fine tuned a bit and we were told that costs would not rise as quickly. On can only imagine what health insurance would cost in New Mexico without this legislation since they’re looking at a more than fifty percent jump in a single year.

So what’s causing this? The analysts who are already weighing in have concluded that the young and healthy are not signing up. This means that most of the new customers coming into the market are older and sicker and costing the insurance companies more money than the federal government planned to pay them through executive fiat and regulation of a free market system. Who could have possible predicted that, aside from nearly every fiscal conservative writing about it for years on end? It’s a mystery, I tell you.

One of our colleagues at Red State seems to believe that the fix was in long before the ink was dry on this deal.

So insurers accomplish the regulatory capture of our caring and compassionate government. The Unaffordable Care Act allows them to petition for ridiculous rate hikes and thereby make obscene and unjustifiable profits at taxpayer expense. The people getting paid by the insurers watch all of this with a gimlet eye. They see the fat wallets and want their cash-stuffed envelope as well. Companies like Air Methods then charge the insurers ridiculous rates in line with the ridiculous rates that the insurers will not pay. At that point, these costs get passed to the insured patient who can’t afford them. This is how the Unaffordable Care Act helps make healthcare that much more unaffordable.

Keep in mind that none of this happens in a vacuum. It’s not just those who are signed up through the Obamacare exchanges who will be seeing higher costs. (Assuming that the taxpayer funded subsidies don’t cover the spread, that is.) Even if you have your own insurance or are getting a policy through your employer, the costs are going up. So I guess everything worked out okay in the end, right? We should elect a whole new pack of Democrats to bring more comprehensive reform to our nation’s pressing concerns.


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When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!
libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM

Does that mean my daughter’s fines will be more next year too. Because, she still can’t afford it and she still doesn’t qualify for a subsidy.

hawkdriver on May 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM

And having created this problem, the same politicians will now step up, without a hint of shame, and suggest that only *they* can fix it, and it’ll take even *more* taxpayer dollars, *more* destruction of the economy, and *more* relinquishment of your rights to do so.

Midas on May 23, 2015 at 4:07 PM

The “Affordable” Care Act

Goebbels regrets dying so soon.

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:07 PM

Rs are doing exactly what?

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:08 PM

the next round of health care premium cost adjustments are coming down the pike

John Bonehead and B!tch McConnell will save the day for Obamacare. Its what they do…

oscarwilde on May 23, 2015 at 4:09 PM

For your pleasure

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:15 PM

Just lies.

Just lies that kill.

Just lies that kill the poor.

Just lies that enable evil.

Just hate for U S.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 23, 2015 at 4:17 PM

So what’s causing this?

Basic math.

Cleombrotus on May 23, 2015 at 4:19 PM

So what’s causing this?

Basic math.

Cleombrotus on May 23, 2015 at 4:19 PM

Yup. Government corruption is about basic math. How much money can each individual elected official make by selling their influence to the highest bidder.

When I sell my music, everyone knows right up front that I am selling them my music. Unfortunately, most people do not seem to understand that when they vote for a politician, they are selling their Constitutional Rights and Liberty to whomever will pay that politician the most money for them.

That’s why Obamacare was passed in the first place, and why the GOPe has not repealed it. Its basic math.

oscarwilde on May 23, 2015 at 4:24 PM

Candyland politics in a bloody real world.

Let it implode.

profitsbeard on May 23, 2015 at 4:26 PM

My plan will actually save families $2500 a year!

Barack Obama,
Spokesperson for lying, thieving democrats.

darwin on May 23, 2015 at 4:27 PM

OT

IRELAND GOES GAY…
Voters hail ‘new Republic’…
Landslide victory for same-sex marriage…

— Drudge, er AP, in absentia

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:31 PM

Rs are doing exactly what?

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:08 PM

Helping fund and save it?

You know – exactly the opposite of what they promised to do?

Midas on May 23, 2015 at 4:32 PM

Thanks Mitt “Romneycare” Romney.
Thanks Olympia “When history calls” Snowe.
Thanks John “It’s a tax” Roberts.

Now what do these three have in common? I (R) just (R) can’t (R) put my finger on it.

Moving right along to the present…..Boehner….McConnell….mah homies…..we gave you a majority. Repeal ball’s in your court.

What’s that? What are balls? Well…..

ElectricPhase on May 23, 2015 at 4:33 PM

You let government get involved, you pay more and get less. Never fails.

rickv404 on May 23, 2015 at 4:33 PM

The insurance death spiral is swirling ever faster. With the higher premiums next year, more young healthies will choose not to buy coverage or drop the coverage they have, but the old unhealthies will continue to file claims, and the spiral will accelerate.

iurockhead on May 23, 2015 at 4:34 PM

No, no, no. Everyone here is saying Washington’s answer to this problem will be to increase taxes. Far from it, people. The obvious answer is for Washington to increase its investments . It’s “INVESTMENTS”, which always sound so much nicer than “taxes.” Of course, I’ve had bum investments over the years, but apparently this has never happened to a politician. At least, I don’t remember any of them every saying their last “investment” wasn’t worth the effort.

Fred 2 on May 23, 2015 at 4:40 PM

So what’s causing this? The analysts who are already weighing in have concluded that the young and healthy are not signing up. This means that most of the new customers coming into the market are older and sicker and costing the insurance companies more money than the federal government planned to pay them through executive fiat and regulation of a free market system. Who could have possible predicted that, aside from nearly every fiscal conservative writing about it for years on end? It’s a mystery, I tell you.

…first off, our healthcare system was anything BUT “free market” before OdoooshbagCare…

…second, anyone with half a brain knew that the Medicaid expansion was going to be more successful than OdykheadCare on it’s own…

…third, again anyone with half a brain knew that the Medicaid expansion was going to ruin any and all “forecasts” regarding what this idiocy would cost…

…you didn’t have to be a “fiscal conservative” to realize what was gonna happen here…the entire plan was dubious right from the beginning…and Odoooshbag/Left-Tards knew it, which is why they continually delayed it’s implementation…

Pelosi Schmelosi on May 23, 2015 at 4:40 PM

premiums going up? no biggie.

now if greens fees go up that would be a crisis. o wait. Obama golf’s for free on our dime.

SpongePuppy on May 23, 2015 at 4:45 PM

When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!
libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM

Never gets old…

22044 on May 23, 2015 at 4:46 PM

oscarwilde on May 23, 2015 at 4:24 PM

Hey, SOMEONE’S gotta pay for the subsidized.

Send it in!

Cleombrotus on May 23, 2015 at 4:47 PM

If it wasn’t for the fact that we have a congress and house full of Republicans who promised that they would fix this, I would be kind of scared right now. But I’m not worried.

Walter L. Newton on May 23, 2015 at 4:48 PM

The rate of increase of health care has slowed – but it has nothing to do with ObamaCare directly. It’s a lingering effect of the recession and the tepid-at-best recovery: people spend less on health care generally, especially elective procedures; when demand slackens, supply is adequate, so prices don’t go up so much.

~~

The conspiracy nuts who claim it’s a grand scheme give these Bozos far too much credit. Never assign to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.

Those who blame insurance companies for cooperating are as stupid as Obama. It’s easy to be a blustering blowhard when the gun isn’t pointed at your head, isn’t it? Any competent executive would have acted similarly to protect his shareholders as far as possible.

~~

If anonymous nutbars at RedState are your “colleagues,” why aren’t you over there instead? Or does Erickson keep every dime for himself?

Adjoran on May 23, 2015 at 4:54 PM

…you ain’t seen nuthin yet…

A Lull Before the ObamaCare Rate Storm
Premiums this year are a nice surprise. It’s 2017 when hikes will kick in—‘bronze’ family plans alone could rocket 45%.

The Affordable Care Act includes two temporary programs that make compliant health-care plans temporarily appear far cheaper than they are: Risk corridors and reinsurance. Both programs will expire on Jan. 1, 2017. By November 2016, consumers will know how that sunset will affect their plan’s premium.

…I fully expect our feckless GOP Congress to renew both programs or they’ll claim to face backlash at the polls….

…always remember…entitlements never go away, they just keep getting funded by borrowed money…

Pelosi Schmelosi on May 23, 2015 at 5:00 PM

Does that mean my daughter’s fines will be more next year too. Because, she still can’t afford it and she still doesn’t qualify for a subsidy.

hawkdriver on May 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM

Her fines only increase if she’s getting a “refund” that the government can keep the money they’ve taken from her. Remember a “refund” is the money she is lending the government interest free, they are only giving her back what they borrowed above what she owes them. If she does her financial planning correctly, she will owe a small amount and the government can’t come after her for the “fine” of not having insurance.

TulsAmerican on May 23, 2015 at 5:02 PM

— Drudge, er AP, in absentia

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:31 PM

heh high point of my day was drudge report favoriting a tweet I made

https://twitter.com/conserv_voice/status/602116649458782208

ok back to your regular programming

dmacleo on May 23, 2015 at 5:06 PM

…because Left-Tards haven’t effed up healthcare enough…

Democrats see skimpy insurance as the next health care issue

A different health care issue has emerged for Democrats, in sync with the party’s pitch to workers and middle-class voters ahead of next year’s elections.

It’s not the uninsured, but rather the problem of high out-of-pocket costs for people already covered.

Democrats call it “underinsurance.”

After paying premiums, many low- and middle-income patients still face high costs when trying to use their coverage. There’s growing concern that the value of a health insurance card is being eaten away by rising deductibles, the amount of actual medical costs that patients pay each year before coverage kicks in.

…Left-Tards in all their brilliance caused deductibles to skyrocket…now they’re claiming ignorance as to why people aren’t actually using the plans they’re paying thru the nose for…

…these people are truly morons and crooks…

Pelosi Schmelosi on May 23, 2015 at 5:08 PM

If you like your plan you can keep your plan.
If you lie your doctor you can keep your doctor.
The check is in the mail.
My plan will not add one dime to the deficit.
My plan will provide a 3000% drop in premiums.
I love you honey.
The average family will save over $2500 per year.
Our plan will reduce the number of ER visits.
I won’t c*m in your mouth.

It was a lie all the way down and now the GOPe has signed off on another comprehensive power grab of our freedoms without reading the bill.

Exactly why don’t we go third party? Because the democrats would have control of the congress. Yeah about that.

jukin3 on May 23, 2015 at 5:10 PM

Can you say single payer? As a Canadian take it from me rationed health care sucks.

Pegcity on May 23, 2015 at 5:11 PM

One of our colleagues at Red State seems to believe that the fix was in long before the ink was dry on this deal.

Oh course it was. Last weekend the Lexington Herald ran an Op-Ed about the failure of Obamacare to control costs and how single payer might, just might, be the only way forward to ensure everyone has affordable comprehensive Health Insurance. Oh and get this, Obamacare seems to be responsible for people actually losing Health Insurance through their employers. Imagine that.

Yeah right. At this point Lies are all the Libs have left and the LIV’s are eating them up.

Johnnyreb on May 23, 2015 at 5:15 PM

why does it matter to those receiving subsidies?
aren’t we picking the tab?

This is why congress should let it burn when the subsidies get throw out by SCOTUS

weedisgood on May 23, 2015 at 5:16 PM

This deal is getting worse all the time. Pray they don’t alter it any further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE

unclesmrgol on May 23, 2015 at 5:20 PM

why does it matter to those receiving subsidies?
aren’t we picking the tab?

This is why congress should let it burn when the subsidies get throw out by SCOTUS

weedisgood on May 23, 2015 at 5:16 PM

Obama has made the situation BETTER not worse.
Numbers don’t lie
weedisgood on February 6, 2015 at 10:47 AM

Pelosi Schmelosi on May 23, 2015 at 5:24 PM

Does that mean my daughter’s fines will be more next year too. Because, she still can’t afford it and she still doesn’t qualify for a subsidy.

hawkdriver on May 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM

THIS X ~ !!!

bernzright777 on May 23, 2015 at 5:24 PM

F you Pelosi
F you Reid
F you you POS

And F every single one of you jacka$$es who, to this day, tell me “it’s a good deal”!!

This isn’t good for my blood pressure!

bernzright777 on May 23, 2015 at 5:27 PM

…h/t Taranto…Great Moments In Socialized Medicine…

English Hospital Report Cites ‘Appalling’ Suffering

The report, which examined conditions at Stafford Hospital in Staffordshire over a 50-month period between 2005 and 2009, cites example after example of horrific treatment: patients left unbathed and lying in their own urine and excrement; patients left so thirsty that they drank water from vases; patients denied medication, pain relief and food by callous and overworked staff members; patients who contracted infections due to filthy conditions; and patients sent home to die after being given the wrong diagnoses.

Pelosi Schmelosi on May 23, 2015 at 5:29 PM

This is why congress should let it burn when the subsidies get throw out by SCOTUS

weedisgood on May 23, 2015 at 5:16 PM

Not for you b!tch, you smoked your fair share of weed, now its time for you to pay your fair share of taxes. Oh, and stick it, your fair share isn’t what you think it should be, its whatever the tax man says it is.

oscarwilde on May 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM

Pelosi Schmelosi on May 23, 2015 at 5:24 PM

Don’t be too hard on weedy. He is 4 inches shorter than most men.

Serious Drivel on May 23, 2015 at 5:42 PM

This means that most of the new customers coming into the market are older and sicker and costing the insurance companies more money than the federal government planned to pay them through executive fiat and regulation of a free market system.

Which, had the Democrats retained control of the House and Senate; would have brought you to Part II of ObamaCare: Socialized Medicine.

Which is what they wanted in the first place.

GarandFan on May 23, 2015 at 5:46 PM

This is why congress should let it burn when the subsidies get throw out by SCOTUS

weedisgood on May 23, 2015 at 5:16 PM

You should take Ebenezer Scrooge’s advice: go die and decrease the surplus population. You liberal, hand out taking, brain dead, POS!

bernzright777 on May 23, 2015 at 5:48 PM

Don’t be too hard on weedy. He is 4 inches shorter than most men.

Serious Drivel on May 23, 2015 at 5:42 PM

…I saw that…obviously I’ve been here too long because peedhispants was the first person I thought of when I read it…

Pelosi Schmelosi on May 23, 2015 at 5:51 PM

Just received my notice from MVP yesterday. My premium will be going up 14%, and that’s on top of last year’s 20% increase. #FUBarry

rcpjr on May 23, 2015 at 5:54 PM

Greek hospitals cannot afford painkillers, scissors or sheets as budget cuts bite

Reports have surfaced of patients being turned away from hospital because there was no meter to measure their high blood pressure, while others have had to do without painkillers during medical procedures. One patient was even asked to bring their own sheets to hospital.

A trainee surgeon at KAT, a respected state hospital in Athens, said the situation was at “breaking point”.

“There is no money to repair medical equipment, no money for ambulances to use for petrol, no money to hire nurses and no money to buy modern surgical supplies,” he told the Times.

Pelosi Schmelosi on May 23, 2015 at 6:04 PM

“There is no money to repair medical equipment, no money for ambulances to use for petrol, no money to hire nurses and no money to buy modern surgical supplies,” he told the Times.

And vice versa:)

bernzright777 on May 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM

You graveyard-whistle-paters are just Tea Gabbling past the, uh, graveyard! Mark my words, Tea Gabbers, democ rats will be openly campaigning on obamacare in 2016!

Judge_Dredd on May 23, 2015 at 6:10 PM

Judge_Dredd on May 23, 2015 at 6:10 PM

Heh, ghost of Ned Pecker.

bernzright777 on May 23, 2015 at 6:16 PM

If the Republicans had the desire to kill the obamacare beast, they could. Instead, they are plotting to come up with an alternative to subsidize people who lose their subsidy depending on how the Supreme Court rules on the subsidy issue.
To kill the beast they need to inflict maximum damage whenever they can. That includes letting the chips fall against those who are receiving illegal subsidies.

GaltBlvnAtty on May 23, 2015 at 6:21 PM

The passenger could have pulled the keys out of the ignition at any time but didnt. Decisions have consequences, sometimes good, sometimes bad. Next question???

elvis lives on May 23, 2015 at 6:30 PM

Yes, Olympia’s role in this train wreck is often overlooked. She lives about a good drive and solid 3 wood up the street from me. Around the time of all this she was frequently invited to the Oval Office for discussions. The flattery and sense of relevance and importance got to her. I’d run into Jock and her in places and she would have her phone pressed to her ear nodding and responding in important fashion. Just dumb and reckless. But that is what flattery will get you.

Rufus2step on May 23, 2015 at 7:06 PM


aren’t we picking the tab?…

weedisgood on May 23, 2015 at 5:16 PM

…ah….you have your finger UP your nose again?

JugEarsButtHurt on May 23, 2015 at 7:08 PM

We should elect a whole new pack of Democrats to bring more comprehensive reform to our nation’s pressing concerns.

What are you talking about? It’s the VIchy GOP traitors who are working hard to save BarkyCare, now. The Vichy GOP douchebags never intended to repeal it – not even close – and now they are actively working to get it embedded more deeply into society.

This is why I didn’t vote for any GOP azzwipes in 2014 and won’t be giving any GOP douchebags my vote again.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 23, 2015 at 7:22 PM

What gets me is that a lot of people I know are stuck in the position of not being able to afford the premium and yet they don’t qualify for the subsidy. I know someone has already stated this and to topic off is that everybody I know that works has at least a 6000 dollar deductible. My boss said he is quitting it and will just pay the fine. Thanks you worthless oboma.

garydt on May 23, 2015 at 7:54 PM

If anonymous nutbars at RedState are your “colleagues,” why aren’t you over there instead? Or does Erickson keep every dime for himself?

Adjoran on May 23, 2015 at 4:54 PM

I’ve never been there. But I’ll go try it if you’ll go stay at Little Green Footballs.

Meremortal on May 23, 2015 at 7:56 PM

Moth**f**ker*!

RonRon on May 23, 2015 at 8:07 PM

Viva la revolucion

Mr Soames on May 23, 2015 at 8:16 PM

We should elect a whole new pack of Democrats to bring more comprehensive reform to our nation’s pressing concerns.
What are you talking about? It’s the VIchy GOP traitors who are working hard to save BarkyCare, now. The Vichy GOP douchebags never intended to repeal it – not even close – and now they are actively working to get it embedded more deeply into society.
This is why I didn’t vote for any GOP azzwipes in 2014 and won’t be giving any GOP douchebags my vote again.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 23, 2015 at 7:22 PM

But all those bureaucrat corksuckers saved us from the Tea Party

They got that going for them

Mr Soames on May 23, 2015 at 8:19 PM

that jug-eared Kenyan is the anti-Christ. McConnell and Boehner are his minions.

ultracon on May 23, 2015 at 8:29 PM

There was a reason why the Founders believed strongly in limited government

Mr Soames on May 23, 2015 at 8:47 PM

When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!
libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM

Oh, libfree? Where are you, so that you can tell that to my father and I again now, both who are facing a $400 minimum increase for about half of the benefits we used to have?

DevilishSoda on May 23, 2015 at 9:18 PM

Read if you want to learn on how to fix healthcare:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230151

“You got that folks? The entire reason that we have a budget deficit — all of it — is that we are spending $963 billion more than we take in through taxes on Medicare and Medicaid.”

Of course it would involve CONgress actually making the medical industry follow the law and getting government completely out of the healthcare industry. The neo-cons/rinos/establishment GOP don’t want to lose that power, same as the dems.

A pox on all their houses. Traitorous dogs.

oryguncon on May 23, 2015 at 9:50 PM

I’m sure McConnell will give the dog-eater more power to fix it with some more “classified” legislation.

SouthernGent on May 23, 2015 at 9:52 PM

Thx Preznit Obama.
You built this.

Closet Optimist on May 24, 2015 at 1:01 AM

No biggie: Your Obamacare premiums are going up. Way up in some cases.

Which you’ve reported every year since the ACA became law, only problem is you’ve been wrong every time. Health care costs have been below yearly historic average increases.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/11/17/obamacares-premiums-are-going-up-at-the-same-rate-as-everyone-elses/

Tlaloc on May 24, 2015 at 3:06 AM

Does that mean my daughter’s fines will be more next year too. Because, she still can’t afford it and she still doesn’t qualify for a subsidy.

hawkdriver on May 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM

She should move to a blue state to get away from the red state stupidity that’s screwed her.

Tlaloc on May 24, 2015 at 3:08 AM

Rs are doing exactly what?

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:08 PM

Lying about problems that don’t exist, apparently.

Tlaloc on May 24, 2015 at 3:09 AM

No biggie: Your Obamacare premiums are going up. Way up in some cases.

Which you’ve reported every year since the ACA became law, only problem is you’ve been wrong every time. Health care costs have been below yearly historic average increases.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/11/17/obamacares-premiums-are-going-up-at-the-same-rate-as-everyone-elses/

Tlaloc on May 24, 2015 at 3:06 AM

Someone’s up past his bedtime. Whassamatta, hungry for an early-morning snack? Too bad all of the goats are asleep.

Say, about that link — November 2014? How about some current stats, like the ones in the article above?

BTW, still waiting for my healthcare premiums to decrease $2,500 as the pResident promised. What, he lied, you say?

Alien on May 24, 2015 at 8:08 AM

All of this in the age of disintermediation and getting RID of the middle-man…which saves money by cutting the excess out of the loop.

You add bunches of middle-men to a service, middle-men who don’t do very much and who require more work to be done, thus requiring more people to do non-service oriented work just to satisfy them…and the cost of everything goes up.

Why, who could have seen that coming?

How about we cut the government, the subsidies, the tax write-offs, and anything supporting the insurance companies out of the loop? The actual cost of providing health care just might go down when you get rid of the non-productive burden to the system and save everyone money…of course, that eliminates graft. Leftists are all for graft and corruption.

ajacksonian on May 24, 2015 at 8:21 AM

Thank goodness The Won save us from that 6% increase we were experiencing before insurance became affordable.

Cindy Munford on May 24, 2015 at 8:57 AM

I can almost see it coming, Hillarycare right at the end of this tunnel.

Kissmygrits on May 24, 2015 at 8:59 AM

She should move to a blue state to get away from the red state stupidity that’s screwed her.

Tlaloc on May 24, 2015 at 3:08 AM

That statement doesn’t make much sense.

Putting aside the notorious ineducable nature of leftists, we know that red states are more charitable, that blue states with higher minimum wages have higher unemployment, that blue states have highly segregated schools, that blue states have higher income inequality, that blue states fare worse economically under President Obama, and that people have higher incomes in red states.

Trends show, that people are actually moving away from blue states to red states.

So the whole concept of “white flight” is a misunderstanding, because it’s not any given race that anyone is fleeing. Rather, people are fleeing the LSD inspired policy making of doltish authoritarian leftists, and rightly so.

Star Bird on May 24, 2015 at 9:03 AM

Rep. Pelosi spoke outright lied in that clip for 4.35 min. Everything was an absolute lie! I never thought it possible that someone in the depths of dementia like she obviously is could lie like that!!!

Iamaluckyone on May 24, 2015 at 9:57 AM

Cindy Munford on May 24, 2015 at 8:57 AM

Comment of the day IMHO!!!

Iamaluckyone on May 24, 2015 at 10:01 AM

Lying about problems that don’t exist, apparently.

Tlaloc on May 24, 2015 at 3:09 AM

That’s where the concept of socialized medicine comes from, and how Obamacare got passed.

Star Bird on May 24, 2015 at 10:05 AM

The Rent-Seeker Protection and Unaffordable Care Act.

You say, “We have to pass it to find out what’s in it!”

I say, “Good Lord, I don’t remember eatin’ THAT!

Tomayto, tomahto.

GrumpyOldFart on May 24, 2015 at 10:07 AM

It doesn’t seem to matter who is running the show, R or D, every day we loose more of our freedom and wind up paying more for the privilege! The D’s threw us into the pit with this Obama Unaffordable Care Act and the R’s are now pulling the lifelines out!

Iamaluckyone on May 24, 2015 at 10:26 AM

You add bunches of middle-men to a service, middle-men who don’t do very much and who require more work to be done, thus requiring more people to do non-service oriented work just to satisfy them…and the cost of everything goes up.

The entire notion that doctors, and ambulances, and hospitals, and prescriptions, and procedures, would somehow become more “affordable” is an idea that could only be born in the progressive pea-brains of those who don’t understand basic economics.

Why, who could have seen that coming?

ajacksonian on May 24, 2015 at 8:21 AM

Sober adults who understand basic economics.

Star Bird on May 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM

Sober adults who understand basic economics.

Star Bird on May 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM

Sheesh, anybody who can do basic arithmetic.

GrumpyOldFart on May 24, 2015 at 11:45 AM

Does that mean my daughter’s fines will be more next year too. Because, she still can’t afford it and she still doesn’t qualify for a subsidy.

hawkdriver on May 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM

Yeppers. The joys of Odumbacare. Brought to you by the democrat party. Your fines may vary; batteries not included. You have to pass the bill in order to see what’s in it. Ready for the Hildebeast?

(This was all so predictable; in fact, if memory serves, it was predicted both here and in other intelligent media locations. Not in the MSM, however. What does that tell us, I wonder.)

Bill M on May 24, 2015 at 6:06 PM

The entire notion that doctors, and ambulances, and hospitals, and prescriptions, and procedures, would somehow become more “affordable” is an idea that could only be born in the progressive pea-brains of those who don’t understand basic economics.

Star Bird on May 24, 2015 at 10:33 AM

Sorry, this sentence should read:

The entire notion that doctors, and ambulances, and hospitals, and prescriptions, and procedures, would somehow become more “affordable” with a giant heaping helping of government bureaucracy slathered on top of it all, is an idea that could only be born in the progressive pea-brains of those who don’t understand basic economics.

Star Bird on May 24, 2015 at 9:44 PM

No problem. If history is any indicator, the Dems can just claim that the premiums would have increased by much more if not for the ACA, so everyone is actually saving a huge amount of money.

Besides, think of all the 70 year-olds who can stop worrying, since they now have birth control and maternity coverage!

And if all else fails they can always fall back on the reliable “It’s Bush’s fault!”

s1im on May 26, 2015 at 11:00 PM

When premiums decline y’all are going to be pissed!
libfreeordie on May 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Schadenfreude on May 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM

In a few years we may find that our premiums do drop by around 5% after increasing by maybe 800% in the interim decade.

So lfod may be technically correct using government math (since clearly it dropped 5% in year eleven), although we end up with an overall increase of about 760%.

And yes, I am going to be justifiably pissed.

s1im on May 26, 2015 at 11:19 PM

No one seems to see the biggest fraud of all. Hospitals charge three times what a procedure is worth. Insurance companies pay a third of that as the approved cost. Hospitals collect what they can wring out of the patient and then write off the remainder, making a nice tidy deduction to offset their massive profits.

This is the biggest scandal of the medical industry and no on seems to recognize it.

creeper on October 17, 2015 at 12:18 PM