Great news from the White House: Our ISIS strategy has been a success overall

posted at 6:01 pm on May 19, 2015 by Allahpundit

“Delusional,” said former U.S. advisor Ali Khedery when asked what he thought of the White House dismissing the fall of Ramadi as a temporary setback. “It’s unbelievable, frankly. I now know what it’s like to have lived through Vietnam, I guess.” Why so glum? Per the Long War Journal, with Ramadi now in ISIS’s hands, the jihadis control every major population center in Anbar province from Fallujah to Al Qaim. ISIS is now within striking distance of Baghdad’s western Sunni suburbs. The White House has gone from opposing using Shiite militias against ISIS for fear of massive sectarian bloodletting and Iran expanding its influence within Iraq to grudgingly tolerating their use so long as the Iraqi government remains nominally in control of them. “You got to fight with the army you got, and this is the army they got,” said one U.S. intel official to Reuters. The Iraqi army, which we spent 12 years building with American blood and treasure, is rickety from corruption, demoralized from battlefield losses, and tasked with protecting a country that barely exists right now in any meaningful sense. Letting this fight turn into a Sunni/Shiite death struggle may actually be the White House’s best play at this point to push ISIS back. This is, evidently, what Josh Earnest considers a generally successful strategy. Close your eyes, clear your mind, and try to imagine media reaction if President Romney’s spokesman were trying to sell Ramadi’s fall as a minor step backward in an otherwise winning campaign.

Next stop: Sectarian civil war in Anbar, if not Baghdad. No matter what happens in Ramadi the next few months, warns Newsweek, the outcome is likely to be bad.

Earlier this month, the first 1,000 Sunni recruits joined a pro-government Sunni tribal militia that is slated to grow to 6,000. But the arming of Sunni militias in Anbar province has been delayed by the opposition of Shiite political leaders who doubt the loyalty of many Sunni Iraqis in an increasingly polarized sectarian atmosphere…

Abadi, a Shiite political leader who promised to lead a more inclusive government, reached a deal on sharing oil revenues with Iraqi Kurds and pushed for arming Sunni tribesmen to fight against ISIS. But Abadi’s plans to arm Sunni militias have been trimmed back by rival Shiite leaders backed by Iran, who favor the ruthless employment of Iranian-trained Shiite militias…

A military victory for Iran’s surrogate militias in Ramadi would amount to a political defeat for the United States and for Abadi. And such a victory could trigger a Sunni backlash that could boost ISIS and prolong, rather than shorten, Iraq’s civil war.

Yesterday the AP wondered how long it’ll be before the White House shifts to a containment strategy against ISIS. Iran presumably isn’t willing to pour endless men and materiel into Iraq to cleanse Anbar of its jihadis. The goal is protecting the southern and eastern Shiite parts of the country; once ISIS takes enough of a beating, they might be willing to reach a cold accommodation with Tehran in which everyone stays more or less in their own sectarian sphere. That’s tricky because it would also require some sort of accommodation between ISIS and Assad, as Iran’s not going to forfeit its chief Arab proxy. But who knows? As ISIS entrenches in Iraq and parts of Syria, maybe they’ll decide they’re better off building a caliphate there than dragging out the fight against Damascus, where they’re already at risk of being overtaken by Al Qaeda’s Nusra Front. If and when that happens, ISIS would in theory be left to consolidate power in its new jihadistan while AQ and Iran carve up what’s left of Syria. At which point we’d do … what? Send in ground troops to topple the caliphate? Double down on a losing effort to train a national army without a nation? Leave the new ISIS jihadistan more or less alone apart from pinpoint strikes like drone attacks and Special Forces raids on terror camps there? If “success” is this dangerous, what would failure look like?


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Does successful now equal cluster fark now? I didn’t get the memo.

Oil Can on May 19, 2015 at 6:02 PM

Great news from the White House: Our ISIS strategy has been a success overall

So this is what Dear Liar wanted.

rbj on May 19, 2015 at 6:03 PM

Nothing says success like losing an entire country, or two.

antipc on May 19, 2015 at 6:03 PM

I wonder if therapy will work for the White House?

Neitherleftorright on May 19, 2015 at 6:03 PM

#WINNING!

geojed on May 19, 2015 at 6:04 PM

Iran presumably isn’t willing to pour endless men and materiel into Iraq to cleanse Anbar of its jihadis.

Perhaps they just mean to annex Iraq instead? Who would stop them?

Neitherleftorright on May 19, 2015 at 6:05 PM

*insert diet-coke-out-the-nose guffaw here*

Midas on May 19, 2015 at 6:05 PM

Grading on a curve I see.

TheMadHessian on May 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM

You have really got to hand it to these Obama people, they have more chutzpa than Joe Isuzu, Tokyo Rose, Baghdad Bob and Joesph Goebbels combined!

VorDaj on May 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM

Grading on a curve I see.

TheMadHessian on May 19, 2015 at 6:06 PM

An abyss curve.

VorDaj on May 19, 2015 at 6:07 PM

So this is what Dear Liar wanted.

rbj on May 19, 2015 at 6:03 PM

Yep; just like a faltering economy, collapsing borders, disintegrating race relations, spiraling debt, destruction of the health care system, evisceration of our military, and more…

‘Success’ simply means everything is working *exactly* as they intended.

Midas on May 19, 2015 at 6:07 PM

The plan is working….

d1carter on May 19, 2015 at 6:09 PM

While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every mans hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus.
– John Quincy Adams

It seems like the last two Presidents have lost all knowledge of Islam. Bush and Obama = Dumb and Dumber.

VorDaj on May 19, 2015 at 6:12 PM

Success to Obama is the weakening and undermining of America overall.

Every advance by The Jihad is a victory for Barack.

profitsbeard on May 19, 2015 at 6:14 PM

It is difficult to escape the notion that chaos is Obama’s goal. So, yes, it has been a success.

Fenris on May 19, 2015 at 6:15 PM

Damn!!! I wonder what failure would have looked like????

elvis lives on May 19, 2015 at 6:15 PM

Vordaj. You forgot “max headroom”. :-D

elvis lives on May 19, 2015 at 6:17 PM

Obama and hillary= dumber and dumberer!!

elvis lives on May 19, 2015 at 6:19 PM

Damn!!! I wonder what failure would have looked like????

elvis lives on May 19, 2015 at 6:15 PM

Dead Jihadis, lots of them.

antipc on May 19, 2015 at 6:19 PM

Great news from the White House: Our ISIS strategy has been a success overall

If the goal is a confused, weakened, Khamenei-loving but otherwise friendless & fundamentally transformed United States of America, then President Jarrett’s ISIS strategy is working.

Sacramento on May 19, 2015 at 6:20 PM

Our ISIS strategy has been a success overall

I guess it would depend on how you would define success, I guess?

whbates on May 19, 2015 at 6:20 PM

Anybody could see this coming back when Obummer pulled our troops out of Iraq way too soon. He basically handed Iraq over to terrorists with that boneheaded move.

HotAirian on May 19, 2015 at 6:22 PM

Great news from the White House: Our ISIS economic terrorist racial tension Fast and Furious GM monetary policy strategy has been a success overall

Obama has made the situation BETTER not worse.
Numbers don’t lie
weedisgood on February 6, 2015 at 10:47 AM

Pelosi Schmelosi on May 19, 2015 at 6:25 PM

“Our ISIS strategy has been a success overall”

Again, this depends on POINT OF VIEW. If you are pro-ISIS the strategy has been an unqualified success.

MaiDee on May 19, 2015 at 6:27 PM

SMART POWER! wielded by the dumbest assholes in the world!

GarandFan on May 19, 2015 at 6:32 PM

New Documents: Obama Administration Knew Arms Were Moving From Benghazi To ISIS Before 2012 Election

Judicial Watch obtained these records by suing in federal court…

Another DIA memo from 2012 predicts the rise of ISIS and the establishment of a calphate 17 months before President Obama called the terror group “the JV team.”

Another DIA memo dated October 5, 2012 leaves no doubt that U.S. intelligence agencies were clearly aware that deadly weapons were being shipped to Syria via the port of Benghazi.

Hat tip/Schadenfreude

thatsafactjack on May 19, 2015 at 6:34 PM

White House: Our ISIS strategy has been a success overall

Since their strategy seems to be a caliphate, a nuclear Iran and the eradication of Christians and Jews in the Middle East I’d say they’re right.

darwin on May 19, 2015 at 6:36 PM

Nothing says success like losing an entire country, or two.

antipc on May 19, 2015 at 6:03 PM

Or three or four or …
The numbers keep rising month by month.
Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Turkey, … next?

All is proceeding as I have foreseen.

Recall the poster of King Putt standing among the ruins of a Cls 5 tornado with the caption, “My work here is done.”?
Now imagine the same background with King Putt and Queen Butt straddling the entire ME. Now THAT is SUCCESS!

Missilengr on May 19, 2015 at 6:40 PM

Obama’s strategy is working because somehow this is clearly George Bush’s fault somehow.

MikeM on May 19, 2015 at 6:41 PM

It seems like the last two Presidents have lost all knowledge of Islam. Bush and Obama = Dumb and Dumber.
VorDaj on May 19, 2015 at 6:12 PM

Very well put. That was obvious when Bush first proposed getting involved militarily in that area. Not only Islam but history as well.

But then again, it’s not merely the Presidents. We have an entire generation of pundits, media loudmouths, political busybodies, and cultural charlatans who have abandoned the perspective that might have given them caution and some wisdom when it came to dealing with this menace from the 7th century.

John Quincy Adams, et al still had access to that perspective. It was the Biblical perspective.

We’re just reaping what we’ve sown and this is how it working itself out in the geo-political realm.
All the other realms are showing their results as well.

Cleombrotus on May 19, 2015 at 6:45 PM

Obama’s strategy is working because somehow this is clearly George Bush’s fault somehow.
MikeM on May 19, 2015 at 6:41 PM

Actually, it is.

Cleombrotus on May 19, 2015 at 6:46 PM

He basically handed Iraq over to terrorists with that boneheaded treasonous and treacherous move.

HotAirian on May 19, 2015 at 6:22 PM

FIFY

profitsbeard on May 19, 2015 at 6:56 PM

Josh is really on the ball.
The ❽ ball that is.

I don’t think they are even trying anymore. No reasonable person, even a hack with half a brain could possibly think there is ANY success. So we blow away one sh1thead selling oil. Plenty more in the wings. No way this ends well. Bozo has basically punted.

JusDreamin on May 19, 2015 at 7:00 PM

Letting this fight turn into a Sunni/Shiite death struggle may actually be the White House’s best play at this point to push ISIS back.

That is something that I always hoped it would turn into, because that is in America’s best interests. However, that does not mean the U.S. should sit on its hands (like Obama is doing) and do nothing while the great Arab-Iranian Islamic Thunderdome is happening.

Here is what the next President should do:

1. Announce that the U.S. supports an independent Kurdistan. The U.S. will asset the Kurds with military aid, even with some U.S. ground forces, to secure their borders and more important gain territory. There are around 28 million Kurds in Kurdistan and in the surrounding areas of Syria, Turkey, and Iran. That is a significant enough population that if unified into a single country could defend itself and be made out of parts of what is today Iraq and Syria. The Kurdish territorial expansion will be at the expense of ISIS, AQ, and Sunni Arabs, but that is in America’s best interests. It will also put fear into the Turks, but considering how the Turks have helped the Muslim Brotherhood and have been rather anti-American…why should we care what they think. Maybe a little fear will do them some good. Future advantages – An independent and greater Kurdistan could also be a great base to harass Iran, once again in return for allowing the Kurds to take Iranian territory and Shia Arab territory to the east and south.

2. Dump the two state solution, and allow Israel to either work out a deal with Jordan and Egypt for those lands, or simply take it themselves and move the Muslim Palestinians into the remains of Syria and Lebanon.

3. Support and create a Christian state, probably out of the remains of Syria, parts of Lebanon, and even the PLA controlled territories that will be done away with. This can be worked out in a deal with Israel and the Kurds in return for U.S. support of their own ambitions. U.S. military forces and aid will be needed.

4. The U.S. will have to pay off and support the Egyptian military government and the Jordanian King in order to bring them over due to the issues created in their countries by No. 2 and 3 above. One way to pay off the Egyptians is in military support, money, and political cover in a takeover of parts of Libya. The Jordanians will be harder, but perhaps some combination of territorial gains, military aid, and money will do the trick.

5. Dump Saudi Arabia, Qatar as allies, or at least ignore their complaints over all this. They have proven themselves to be crappy allies, and it has been partially due to their support of Sunni Jihadists groups that we are in this situation. Let them pound sand, or if they want to fight over this so be it. Either way I will be happy.

There is more that can be done, and others smarter than me could do a better job going into the details of such a plan. Of course the UN and Muslim Arab nations will scream “ethnic cleansing”, “racism”, etc., but it is time we create a new Middle East that is more to our liking in terms of useful allies, plus it will be much harder for ISIS and AQ to use areas controlled by Kurds, Christians, military juntas, and Jews.

See this as a glass half full – ISIS, AQ, and Iran have given us cover and an opportunity to do what we would prefer, instead of dealing with people we would rather not like to deal with…such as Saudi Arabia.

It is time to redraw the maps, this time with better and more reasonable cultures and religions in charge. This is how a hawk should think…

William Eaton on May 19, 2015 at 7:01 PM

sit back, relax, and watch how a smart war is won easily, kiddies.
you’ll only make yourselves look sillier by yelling and screaming about it.
everdiso on September 23, 2014 at 10:56 AM

JusDreamin on May 19, 2015 at 7:04 PM

William Eaton on May 19, 2015 at 7:01 PM

Well, that and carpet bombing.

davidk on May 19, 2015 at 7:04 PM

Nothing says success like losing an entire country, or two.

antipc on May 19, 2015 at 6:03 PM

Or three or four or …
The numbers keep rising month by month.
Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Turkey, … next?

All is proceeding as I have foreseen.

Recall the poster of King Putt standing among the ruins of a Cls 5 tornado with the caption, “My work here is done.”?
Now imagine the same background with King Putt and Queen Butt straddling the entire ME. Now THAT is SUCCESS!

Missilengr on May 19, 2015 at 6:40 PM

Hey, we’re winning iran.

davidk on May 19, 2015 at 7:06 PM

It is now obvious to all but the Obama worshipers, the Democratic party faithful and their MSM propaganda wing that the only war the Obama regime has the will to fight is the war against the citizens of the United States.
Nahanni on June 14, 2014 at 5:57 PM

Josh is never earnest.

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2015 at 7:08 PM

It seems like the last two Presidents have lost all knowledge of Islam. Bush and Obama = Dumb and Dumber.
VorDaj on May 19, 2015 at 6:12 PM

Very well put. That was obvious when Bush first proposed getting involved militarily in that area. Not only Islam but history as well.

But then again, it’s not merely the Presidents. We have an entire generation of pundits, media loudmouths, political busybodies, and cultural charlatans who have abandoned the perspective that might have given them caution and some wisdom when it came to dealing with this menace from the 7th century.

John Quincy Adams, et al still had access to that perspective. It was the Biblical perspective.

We’re just reaping what we’ve sown and this is how it working itself out in the geo-political realm.
All the other realms are showing their results as well.

Cleombrotus on May 19, 2015 at 6:45 PM

As I was watching the news last night, it occurred to me that America’s problem is not that it is Bad (per the Left), but that it tries so hard to be Good.

Our basic (now expanded) problem in the Iraq incursion was that we were NOT (as accused) cold-blooded imperialist interventionists seeking only to enrich our oil magnates.
Had the US actually gone in from that perspective, rather than as humanitarian deliverers of the Iraqi citizens and pro-active disablers of Saddam’s (frankly) evil and dangerous regime, then we would have ruthlessly stamped out the Baathist / Sunni / Islamist oppositions, forced the Iraqi government to do exactly what we wanted, and (pace Joe Biden) split the country into 3 separate sectarian states completely under our own control, until they learned to at least pretend to play nice.
Iran would not have had a look-in, and neither would ISIS.

AesopFan on May 19, 2015 at 7:09 PM

I guess we’re good to freak about ISIS then for the next week until it to fizzles. Hey do we have the week after next’s freak out picked out yet because I suggest: “pollen.” This stuff is just in the air. Just floating there. And we breathe it! What if it’s a commie-muslim-atheist plot!?
Tlaloc on February 13, 2015 at 4:52 PM

While I can empathize with his rage, I don’t think its wise foreign policy for the king to fly a sortie
Our leader is the paragon of cool temperament, unfazed by the distractions around him.
Obama killed Osama, and he will ultimately crush ISIS.
nonpartisan on February 4, 2015 at 11:24 PM

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2015 at 7:09 PM

the inquisition is literally a branch of the catholic church itself, presided over by the pope.
ISIS has been decried by muslims worldwide.
everdiso on September 15, 2014 at 11:29 AM

Schadenfreude on May 19, 2015 at 7:12 PM

Well, that and carpet bombing.

davidk on May 19, 2015 at 7:04 PM

True…add that to the list. With Islamic Thunderdome in full flower it will call for more than a few smart bombs. Plus it scares the heck out of them…

:)

William Eaton on May 19, 2015 at 7:19 PM

Anyone else notice how this clown narrows his eyes and sticks his right hand in his pocket, (to calm himself, perhaps?) right before he lets out another ridiculous lie? It never fails to astound me how brazenly the left will lie. A success, my arse.

BettyRuth on May 19, 2015 at 7:20 PM

Plus it scares the heck out of them…

:)

William Eaton on May 19, 2015 at 7:19 PM

And the B-52 pilots are beginning to feel left out.

davidk on May 19, 2015 at 7:21 PM

The Hindenburg did make it to Lakehurst, NJ so it’s flight was a success overall in the Josh Earnest, White House universe.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 19, 2015 at 7:23 PM

Fundamentalist-ly transforming another country to a terrorist fate, a cali-(ph)fate

Senator Philip Bluster on May 19, 2015 at 7:32 PM

Memo to self: See William Eaton’s comments from last night’s thread.

AesopFan on May 19, 2015 at 7:36 PM

Anyone else notice how this clown narrows his eyes and sticks his right hand in his pocket, (to calm himself, perhaps?) right before he lets out another ridiculous lie? It never fails to astound me how brazenly the left will lie. A success, my arse.

BettyRuth on May 19, 2015 at 7:20 PM

On one hand, I understand…but on the other? We all should expect such behavior – it’s why we are so right to call them “leftards” lol :)

Anti-ControI on May 19, 2015 at 7:42 PM

As I was watching the news last night, it occurred to me that America’s problem is not that it is Bad (per the Left), but that it tries so hard to be Good.
AesopFan on May 19, 2015 at 7:09 PM

There’s a lesson in there somewhere.

Reminds me of a good friend of mine who, out of the goodness of her heart allowed a homeless woman to stay “a little while” in her home. It’s been over a year now, the woman has basically taken over my friend’s apartment and we’ve now got to get a court order to get her out.

Yeah, there’s being good; better that than imperialistic, but you have to be wise as well. Bush is at heart a decent guy, I guess, but what in the world was he thinking?

Cleombrotus on May 19, 2015 at 7:48 PM

If ISIS doesn’t blow it up they will have a nice embassy and green zone to party in.Lots of heads can be lopped off in that big courtyard.Courtesy of the US taxpayers.

docflash on May 19, 2015 at 7:53 PM

Baghdad Josh with his droopy eye is believable.

malkinmania on May 19, 2015 at 8:00 PM

Wasn’t it Joe Biden who suggested breaking Iraq into three countries – Sunni, Shiite, and Kurd?

Blind squirrel theory, or idiot savant?

connertown on May 19, 2015 at 8:10 PM

The One and his clique wanted a Mideast ruled by “authentic Islam”. Well, they’ve got it. All those evil, nasty Westernized “Pseudo-Muslims” are pretty much universally enslaved, raped and/or murdered.

They wanted their very own Vietnam, so they could relive the glory days of anti-war activism, watch people frantically trying to get to safety in overloaded helicopters, and toast every death with champagne, like their idol Ted Kennedy did when Saigon fell in 1975. They may get that in Iraq and Afghanistan both, yet.

They want the U.S. military, economy, and everything else except an all-powerful “civilian security” government gutted and slighted.
It looks like they’ve just about accomplished all of those line-items.

They want Israel destroyed, erased from the map, and every Jew there dead. The Iranian mullahs may just pull it off with the help of the rest of the Islamic crazies. Remember how Gordon bought it at Khartoum; with enough fanatics, the best defenses can be overwhelmed, and Muslims do not abide by truces, treaties, or promises to infidels.

In the end, they want a primitive world run on the principles of “enlightened Eastern mysticism”, and they don’t much care which brand it is as long as it’s anti-technology, anti-civilization, and anti-Western.

In this light, their “strategery” in the MidEast, and everywhere else, has been a total, 100% success.

The lights are going out all over the world. And The One and Friends intend to piss on civilization’s grave.

Their mistake is in thinking that they will then build their delusional Utopia on the ruins thereof. They overlook the small but important detail that their “partners” (Iran, etc.) don’t necessarily have the same vision of Paradise that they do.

And that they might just decide to give the “enlightened elite'” of the West the same treatment that Islamic conquerors have always given those who assisted them.

After the collaborators open the city gates in the dead of night and the Muslim overlord seizes the city, his first act traditionally is to behead the collaborators so they won’t be able to betray him in his turn.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 19, 2015 at 8:37 PM

The Obama-Meriam Dictionary should be out next year.

It’s definitions update many quaint old-fashioned words like:

Success: noun. the failure of an aim or purpose, utter disaster, complete collapse, total chaos, abject misery, an incalculable mess.

profitsbeard on May 19, 2015 at 8:53 PM

Terrorist nation states locked in a bitter sectarian civil war in the same region where everyone else is engaged in a nuclear arms race.

The Obama Doctrine must be to just watch the world burn.

StubbleSpark on May 19, 2015 at 8:55 PM

Didn’t Rumsfeld get crucified for the “you fight with the Army you’ve got” remark — really, really similar to the guy in the post? Let’s have some even-handed criticism here!!

lizzieillinois on May 19, 2015 at 9:07 PM

Just remember: The Bear is loose, and he has a Twitter account. The Middle East is aflame with chaos, and Obysmal and his gal Val are ecstatic.

onlineanalyst on May 19, 2015 at 9:13 PM

We all laughed when Bahgdad Bob spewed this type of nonsense.

kpguru on May 19, 2015 at 9:16 PM

Apparently the WH thinks we are all morons and only believe what they tell us.

sadatoni on May 19, 2015 at 9:28 PM

The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.

-George Orwell

wytshus on May 19, 2015 at 10:00 PM

Nuke it from orbit.

Kenosha Kid on May 19, 2015 at 11:59 PM

Yeah, there’s being good; better that than imperialistic, but you have to be wise as well. Bush is at heart a decent guy, I guess, but what in the world was he thinking?

Cleombrotus on May 19, 2015 at 7:48 PM

“Compassionate conservatism.”
I really do think he believed what he was doing was the best way to “solve” the terrorist problem (as many saw it at the time), but when you are killing cockroaches, the conservative approach is not compassionate.

The “Moderate Muslims” (such as they may be) would also be better off if the US had been more “brutal” rather than less in pacifying Iraq.

AesopFan on May 20, 2015 at 12:28 AM

After the collaborators open the city gates in the dead of night and the Muslim overlord seizes the city, his first act traditionally is to behead the collaborators so they won’t be able to betray him in his turn.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 19, 2015 at 8:37 PM

Those who don’t learn history, die.

AesopFan on May 20, 2015 at 12:28 AM

We have always been at war with Eurasia…

Theophile on May 20, 2015 at 2:18 AM

Throwing the ball at the goal line was a success overall.

– Pete Carroll

pain train on May 20, 2015 at 9:07 AM

Based on these standards, the Obama presidency is a resounding success.

Oxymoron on May 20, 2015 at 12:10 PM

Perhaps the administration is telling the truth. You see they always refer to the enemy as ISIL and all the rest of the world says ISIS. Maybe there is some little group somewhere that is called ISIL and that is who the president and his whole administration refer to and they are losing. The rest of the world concentrates on ISIS and we know they are not losing and perhaps are even winning the war.

Pardonme on May 20, 2015 at 1:07 PM