The sickening few in the media who welcomed the Baltimore riots

posted at 9:01 am on April 28, 2015 by Noah Rothman

Days after Freddie Gray died prematurely in police custody, the city of Baltimore exploded in violence. Gray’s family didn’t want violence. The community that exploded didn’t want violence. The owners and patrons of the local businesses that burned didn’t want violence. Only a small handful of aggressive young people participated in acts of vandalism, and their actions were facilitated by a lethargic mayoralty and an ill-prepared police force. It was more a perfect storm of incompetence that enabled criminal opportunists than an organic uprising targeting systematic oppression. That hasn’t stopped the vile members of the media’s familiar agitators from arguing, as they always do, that the tragic phenomenon the nation witnessed in Baltimore last night was a welcome display of resistance.

Of course, enter Vox.com:

Vox’s Dara Lind noted that The Wire creator David Simon chided the rioters for abandoning the “real power” associated with the largely peaceful demonstrations against the Baltimore Police Department and engaging in violence. Quoting extensively from The Atlantic’s Ta-Nehisi Coates, “one of America’s best living social critics,” she seemed to agree that sometimes “nonviolence is compliance.”

Though she did not quote this passage, it is the most instructive:

When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of political brutality, it betrays itself. When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time out, it exposes itself as a ruse. When nonviolence is preached by the representatives of the state, while the state doles out heaps of violence to its citizens, it reveals itself to be a con. And none of this can mean that rioting or violence is “correct” or “wise,” any more than a forest fire can be “correct” or “wise.” Wisdom isn’t the point tonight. Disrespect is. In this case, disrespect for the hollow law and failed order that so regularly disrespects the rioters themselves.

Couched in ersatz-intellectual terms is the justification for nearly all senseless gang-related street violence: Subjectively defined violations of an arcane code of respect. Gray’s death is a tragedy that demands an investigation and possible criminal prosecutions, if that is the determination made by investigators and a subsequently convened grand jury. Nothing justifies spasmodic episodes of self-destructive aggression, even if you perceive yourself to be regularly disrespected. To suggest otherwise is pitifully juvenile.

But Coates wasn’t the worst offender. In a discussion on CNN led by Don Lemon that took place late Monday night, former White House green jobs czar Van Jones played the role of conservative panel guest. Yes, really. Even Jones was clearly disturbed by the justification for violence he heard from HuffPost Live host and Morehouse College professor Marc Lamont Hill.

“There shouldn’t be calm tonight,” Hill said in response to the various calls for peace from figures infinitely more responsible than himself. “I think there can be resistance to oppression, and when resistance occurs, you can’t circumscribe resistance.”

He noted that there should be “ethics” associated with the ongoing civilizational collapse in Baltimore, but it would be wise for these panel guests to mind their own morality and grow more upset over “the destruction of property than the destruction of black bodies.”

“I’m not calling these people rioters, I’m calling these uprisings,” he added. “The city is not burning because of these protesters. The city is burning because the police killed Freddie Gray.”

This virtual incitement to violence clearly made Hill’s fellow broadcasters nervous. “Black lives matter, but, you know what? Black jobs matter, and black business matter, and black neighborhoods matter, and I don’t think it’s appropriate to give any kind of suggestion that the destruction of black communities is a positive or can be positive in this context,” Jones said.

Hill accepted the critique, but he noted that it was wise not to see the burning of trash in the streets, kids driving stolen cars into buildings, and business owners and families watching as their livelihoods burned to the ground in “too narrow” a framework. He further advised the violent to “be strategic in how we riot.”

Indeed.

These and other valueless, onanistic exercises in self-aggrandizing masquerading as social commentary are not only irresponsible but dangerous, particularly when the fires are still burning and lives are still at risk.

For Americans who are teaching their children that nothing ever justifies violence beyond defending themselves against an imminent threat to one’s own life, these commentators have made that job quite a bit harder. In their own way, they’ve sown the wind that will be reaped in the months and years to come when the overly impressionable take these justifications for property destruction to heart. But those are consequences that others will have to contend with. When the whirlwind comes, these commentators and their ilk will be sheltered in cable news studios. It will fall to the police to struggle against violent agitators in an effort to keep their communities safe and still come home to their families alive.

An earlier version of this post asserted that violence broke out “weeks” after Gray’s death in police custody. The riot exploded less than two weeks after Gray’s death.


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Who will be the first to call an “Intifada”?

Ben Hur on April 28, 2015 at 9:06 AM

Weeks after Freddie Gray died prematurely in police custody, the city of Baltimore exploded in violence.

How does the word “prematurely” fit in this sentence?

Happy Nomad on April 28, 2015 at 9:10 AM

Who will be the first to call an “Intifada”?

Ben Hur on April 28, 2015 at 9:06 AM

Sure looked like a typical Friday after “prayers” at the mosque in Gaza to me.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 9:11 AM

But resistance to whom? Why the Progressive Democrats who run the city and state.

jerryofva on April 28, 2015 at 9:12 AM

Weeks after Freddie Gray died prematurely in police custody, the city of Baltimore exploded in violence.

How does the word “prematurely” fit in this sentence?

Happy Nomad on April 28, 2015 at 9:10 AM

In South Carolina a black man was shot in the back by a police officer. The local government acted SWIFTLY and charged the cop with murder.

In Baltimore a black man dies by a police inflicted spinal injury while in custody. The local government hems and haws and says nothing. Riots break out. A major city burns.

Clearly there is a difference in competence between the two governments.

There was no destruction in South Carolina because the government didn’t leave any “space” for it like Baltimore did.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 9:14 AM

Liberal Democrats have run Baltimore since 1967…

albill on April 28, 2015 at 9:15 AM

It will fall to the police to struggle against violent agitators in an effort to keep their communities safe and still come home to their families alive.

When it really blows up, the police will abandon those neighborhoods so that they CAN go home to their families. See: LA riots.

Then it will be up to individuals to protect themselves and their families. Google LA riots and Korean shop owners for a primer.

Joe Mama on April 28, 2015 at 9:16 AM

Only a small handful of aggressive young people participated in acts of vandalism

Could you be any more wimpy in your choice of words, this isn’t a few high schoolers TP’ing a house or soaping some car windows.

Bishop on April 28, 2015 at 9:18 AM

Shep didn’t help, either. He said he saw cops throwing rocks back at the protesters. What he saw was the cops using their shields to deflect rocks thrown at them by the criminals. He is such a jerk.

Kissmygrits on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

I think the best news, for the community, is that they are burning “their” community, they are destroying their neighborhood, their jobs, “their” people.

That’s the irony, like Watts, Ferguson, Baltimore, Chicago, sit back and watch the fools destroy their lives, burn their lives.

I say let it happen…they will eventually realize that destroying their community does no good…

I feel for the good, who stay and try to protect their homes, their businesses, but they knew long ago, and did not stand up against the race-baiters who come in and stir up this violence.

The live in a culture of violence and crime, of low expectations, and they live up to what they have been told who they are by the liberals.

The liberals, for decades, have told them they are worthless, useless, and not able to compete…someday, they will wake up from this nightmare and get rid of their liberals slave masters.

Baltimore, like Chicago, Detroit, are run, and have been run, by liberal minority policies, for decades, for generations, and look what it has gotten them? Decay, anger, joblessness…that is what the liberals have given you.

That old statement about crazy doing the same thing over and over again the same and expecting a different result…they are crazy.

right2bright on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

Go ahead and burn your community down, live on the street. Just don’t bother to move to my community or expect me to pay to rebuild what you destroyed.

hip shot on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

Who will be the first to call an “Intifada”?

Ben Hur on April 28, 2015 at 9:06 AM

Third Intifada.

davidk on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

Sure looked like a typical Friday after “prayers” at the mosque in Gaza to me.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 9:11 AM

Gazans watched the unfolding events in Baltimore and they were “Holy shiit!”

Bishop on April 28, 2015 at 9:20 AM

Liberal Democrats have run Baltimore since 1967…

albill on April 28, 2015 at 9:15 AM

Exactly…and a majority “minorities”…Mayor, police chief, etc…

right2bright on April 28, 2015 at 9:20 AM

Let it burn

cmsinaz on April 28, 2015 at 9:22 AM

Merry lootmas.

Ars Moriendi on April 28, 2015 at 9:22 AM

Shep didn’t help, either. He said he saw cops throwing rocks back at the protesters. What he saw was the cops using their shields to deflect rocks thrown at them by the criminals. He is such a jerk.

Kissmygrits on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

Shep is a mincing little beta, he thinks he’s down with the struggle when his morning cappuccino doesn’t have enough Madagascar cinnamon sprinkled on top.

Bishop on April 28, 2015 at 9:22 AM

Go ahead and burn your community down, live on the street. Just don’t bother to move to my community or expect me to pay to rebuild what you destroyed.

hip shot on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

Or expect me to stand by idly while you try to burn down my neighborhood, my town.

davidk on April 28, 2015 at 9:22 AM

Hip shot, dear leader has already promised monies to Baltimore

cmsinaz on April 28, 2015 at 9:23 AM

anyone that encourages rioting should not be given air time. @cnn should remove marc lamont hill.

— Matthew Dowd (@matthewjdowd) April 28, 2015

Really.

First amendment rights doesn’t count?

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:24 AM

Only dick heads and race baiters would welcome this.

crosshugger on April 28, 2015 at 9:27 AM

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 9:09 AM

Needs a caption for those of us who don’t care about people.

I recognize Sharpton and Farrakhan. Who is the white guy?

cozmo on April 28, 2015 at 9:27 AM

It isn’t just the media, but many in government as well. The mayor of Baltimore allowed this to happen, and I’m not talking about what she said. I’m talking about her actual actions of doing nothing to prevent this. And ultimately they will be proven to be fools for allowing this nonsense, because the end result is always for people to abandon these places that are proven to be unsafe to live.

I’ve been watching the news, and there have been mentions of riots in Baltimore in the 1960s, and how some parts of the city are still rebuilding from those riots. Why do people think it is that a city still hasn’t fully recovered from a riot that occurred almost 50 years ago?

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:27 AM

Send Hill to report from the scene in white makeup.

RBMN on April 28, 2015 at 9:27 AM

It’s amusing Drudge is highlighting Martin O’Malley’s response to Baltimore versus Hillary Clinton’s.

O’Malley is canceling a European trip and extensively tweeting while Hillary has released one Tweet: “GET YOUR HILLARY BUMPER STICKER HERE!” LOL.

Marcus on April 28, 2015 at 9:27 AM

When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of political brutality, it betrays itself. When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time out, it exposes itself as a ruse. When nonviolence is preached by the representatives of the state, while the state doles out heaps of violence to its citizens, it reveals itself to be a con. And none of this can mean that rioting or violence is “correct” or “wise,” any more than a forest fire can be “correct” or “wise.” Wisdom isn’t the point tonight. Disrespect is. In this case, disrespect for the hollow law and failed order that so regularly disrespects the rioters themselves.

ISIS and AQ cells woke up this morning to discover a perfect excuse to exploit the next Baltimore. They have just been handed the moral authority to do so by the very people who will be their target. Good work, Donks.

Spit.

Limerick on April 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM

Really.

First amendment rights doesn’t count?

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:24 AM

Incitement to riot is illegal.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM

Prayers for the police and the innocent victims of these savage thugs.

redware on April 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM

Encouraging rioting is like shouting fire in a movie theatre….Is it truly a 1st Amendment issue? I agree with Matthew Dowd.

crosshugger on April 28, 2015 at 9:29 AM

First amendment rights doesn’t count?

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:24 AM

Does not apply.

The guy can spew his venom on the street corner or HuffPo. CNN is not obligated to give him their megaphone.

cozmo on April 28, 2015 at 9:29 AM

The liberals, for decades, have told them they are worthless, useless, and not able to compete…someday, they will wake up from this nightmare and get rid of their liberals slave masters.

Baltimore, like Chicago, Detroit, are run, and have been run, by liberal minority policies, for decades, for generations, and look what it has gotten them? Decay, anger, joblessness…that is what the liberals have given you.

That old statement about crazy doing the same thing over and over again the same and expecting a different result…they are crazy.

right2bright on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

And for those decades, the liberals contemptuously and arrogantly used them to expand their own power, their own positions, and their own wealth – knowing full well the causation’s for all of their challenges are contained within the left’s political and social agenda. These soulless reprobates don’t care – because they are in it for themselves and their ideology.

Just as they embrace the craven and bankrupt ‘the ends justifies the means’, they also embrace the equally craven and bankrupt ‘to make an omelet, a few eggs must be broken’.

One could hope that at some point, after decades of being callously used, the African-American communities in this country would wake up and see that the position they are in are not only the direct result of the liberals they put in power, but also of the real effects of the policies that they advocate. Unfortunately, it seems as if the bulk of that community has contracted the Stockholm syndrome.

Athos on April 28, 2015 at 9:29 AM

Shep didn’t help, either. He said he saw cops throwing rocks back at the protesters. What he saw was the cops using their shields to deflect rocks thrown at them by the criminals. He is such a jerk.

Kissmygrits on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

FOX goes off when Shemp comes on.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:29 AM

Who is the white guy?

cozmo on April 28, 2015 at 9:27 AM

I don’t know, either.

davidk on April 28, 2015 at 9:30 AM

If it bleeds –
It Still leads.

TimBuk3 on April 28, 2015 at 9:32 AM

The part that bothers me the most is recognizing how indifferent I’ve become. The constant “RACIST! RACIST!!” and “As if one needs white people for anti-black racism” nonsense has succeeded in numbing me to actual bigotry.
 
I don’t think I care anymore.
 
That’s what bothers me, and I’m sure I’m not alone.
 
Thanks a lot, (D)s.

rogerb on April 28, 2015 at 9:32 AM

Encouraging rioting is like shouting fire in a movie theatre….Is it truly a 1st Amendment issue? I agree with Matthew Dowd.

crosshugger on April 28, 2015 at 9:29 AM

It’s perfectly legal to yell FIRE! in a crowded theater. If the theater is on fire.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 9:33 AM

Unlike Ferguson, which was an unknown city that the big media could frame for the country in any way they wanted, or even New York, where William Bratton’s presence as police commissioner gave the media (led by Al Sharpton) as easy target for their wrath, in Bratton’s “broken window” theory from 20 years earlier, Baltimore presents a demonization challenge for the Social Justice Warriors in the media and elsewhere.

Black mayor. Black police chief. Half the police force black. Other than the new Republican governor, there’s isn’t a truly suitable target for them to point the blame at for some sort of systemic racial problem, as there was in Ferguson (where despite a 71 percent black population, we were led to believe somehow Ferguson’s city government and police force somehow appointed themselves to oppress the population) or in New York (where the goal was and still is to roll back all of the police reforms during the Giuliani and Bloomberg years).

You may have the police officers directly involved in Freddy Gray’s death to target. but there’s no one directly above them whose scalp the Social Justice Warriors or the media can claim, and that’s a problem. So as a result from the media’s standpoint, you end up with someone like Wolf Blitzer getting the vapors over the riots and actually seeing no connection between this and Ferguson, because for now he can’t find a non-liberal Democrat villain in Baltimore other than the rioters, where they felt free to demonize Bratton and his NYPD in New York or any of the faceless officials in Ferguson or St. Louis country to justify last summer’s riots.

jon1979 on April 28, 2015 at 9:33 AM

rogerb on April 28, 2015 at 9:32 AM

I stopped caring a long time ago.

cozmo on April 28, 2015 at 9:33 AM

When it really blows up, the police will abandon those neighborhoods so that they CAN go home to their families. See: LA riots.

Then it will be up to individuals to protect themselves and their families. Google LA riots and Korean shop owners for a primer.

Joe Mama on April 28, 2015 at 9:16 AM

And why should the police willingly stay under the bus the do gooders have thrown them under? When the police are put in the position of retreating in the face of a bunch of teen aged thugs it seems like Baltimore wants the trash to take over.

katiejane on April 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM

right2bright on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

The black race is kaput.Fifty years later and they’re more on the plantation than when there was plantations.Only a handful realize they have been played and are scorned by their own kind.Total failure.

docflash on April 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM

Incitement to riot is illegal.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM

Incitement? Bullsh*t. I’m seen more incitement on HA or a high school playground. It’s called freedom of speech, he was stating an opinion. I didn’t hear him give any explicit orders to riot.

I don’t agree with his position but he was in a proper venue to express those opinions.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM

Who is the white guy?

cozmo on April 28, 2015 at 9:27 AM

de Blazio. Mayor of NYC. I made this one in response to the killing of the two NYC officers shot while sitting in their vehicle.

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM

The part that bothers me the most is recognizing how indifferent I’ve become. The constant “RACIST! RACIST!!” and “As if one needs white people for anti-black racism” nonsense has succeeded in numbing me to actual bigotry.

I don’t think I care anymore.

That’s what bothers me, and I’m sure I’m not alone.

Thanks a lot, (D)s.

rogerb on April 28, 2015 at 9:32 AM

Cries of racism and rape sure don’t have the bite they used to.

Thanks to the Lying Left.

They are the movement that cried wolf.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM

It’s perfectly legal to yell FIRE! in a crowded theater. If the theater is on fire.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 9:33 AM

So inciting rioting is perfectly legal if rioting is already occurring?

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:36 AM

When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of political brutality, it betrays itself. When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time out, it exposes itself as a ruse.

Interesting: Such self-serving, non-logic reveals why these cockroaches are also so anti-Christ/anti-Christian in every other arena. They wouldn’t be able to get away with their petty, infantile, destructive tantrums were they to understand and embrace in any real way any genuine biblical, Christ-given principles.

RL on April 28, 2015 at 9:37 AM

First amendment rights doesn’t count?

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:24 AM

Does not apply.

The guy can spew his venom on the street corner or HuffPo. CNN is not obligated to give him their megaphone.

cozmo on April 28, 2015 at 9:29 AM

True, CNN is not obliged to give this rabble-rouser a megaphone. But they are within their rights to allow him to “spew his venom” 24/7. And that, too, holds for HuffPo or Fox.

The free market of ideas should prevail. If no one watches CNN, or FOX, the advertisers will abandon them.

davidk on April 28, 2015 at 9:37 AM

The black race is kaput.Fifty years later and they’re more on the plantation than when there was plantations.Only a handful realize they have been played and are scorned by their own kind.Total failure.

docflash on April 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM

Welfare replaced the plantation massah with the DC massah and enslaved a whole race again.

Fulfilling the goal the racist Democrat Party has had since 1863.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 9:37 AM

So inciting rioting is perfectly legal if rioting is already occurring?

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:36 AM

If it’s already occurring how could you incite it?

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 9:38 AM

So inciting rioting is perfectly legal if rioting is already occurring?

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:36 AM

He was stating an opinion on WHY those people were rioting. Just because you don’t agree with his opinion, pulling out the hyperbole card doesn’t not make his right to state opinions any less valid.

He never gave any ORDERS to riot.

In that case ConstantineXI could be charged with “inciting to riot” considering MANY of the comments she has made on HA.

Watch out what you wish for.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM

I remember when you made it. The NYC mayor is completely forgettable to me.

On a side note, I have decided finally what to call you.
Baltimore is being referred to as B’more on twitter.

cozmo on April 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM

So inciting rioting is perfectly legal if rioting is already occurring?
NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:36 AM

That’s neither what he said, nor what he meant, nor what the words imply.

RL on April 28, 2015 at 9:40 AM

Incitement? Bullsh*t. I’m seen more incitement on HA or a high school playground. It’s called freedom of speech, he was stating an opinion. I didn’t hear him give any explicit orders to riot.

I don’t agree with his position but he was in a proper venue to express those opinions.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:35 AM

The proper venue is from behind prison bars. But you also miss the point that CNN does not have to allow his idiotic ranting either. CNN is not an agent of the government. They are free to allow or disallow whatever speech they wish, and allowing Hill to speak as a CNN commentator is sickening.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:41 AM

So as a result from the media’s standpoint, you end up with someone like Wolf Blitzer getting the vapors over the riots and actually seeing no connection between this and Ferguson, because for now he can’t find a non-liberal Democrat villain in Baltimore other than the rioters, where they felt free to demonize Bratton and his NYPD in New York or any of the faceless officials in Ferguson or St. Louis country to justify last summer’s riots.

jon1979 on April 28, 2015 at 9:33 AM

I think this about right. Some of the dumber ones have tried to construct a fantasyland of an oppressive white police force and city government (see libfree for an example), but Baltimore is well-known as a heavily black, Democrat city, so the smarter ones realize they have stepped in it here to some extent.

Doomberg on April 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM

That’s neither what he said, nor what he meant, nor what the words imply.

RL on April 28, 2015 at 9:40 AM

Literally, I’m stirring the pot since we are devolving into an obsession over literalsim.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:44 AM

cozmo on April 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM

Lots of folks think it’s why I have this nom. It’s not. The nom is my childhood nick name. I was from as some would describe the wrong side of the tracks. I wanted my life to be more than what I was surrounded by. Hence my friends started calling me Bmore. I think some who called me by my nick name were trying to belittle me as if there was something wrong with trying to improve my lot in life. ; )

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 9:44 AM

The proper venue is from behind prison bars. But you also miss the point that CNN does not have to allow his idiotic ranting either. CNN is not an agent of the government. They are free to allow or disallow whatever speech they wish, and allowing Hill to speak as a CNN commentator is sickening.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:41 AM

Now it’s sickening? Moving the target from “inciting to riot” over to “sickening.” I hope you never get to decide who has freedom of speech and who doesn’t. Merry little dictator.

You’re mindset is so far to the right, you’re bumping butts with those fascists coming around from the other end of the spectrum.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:45 AM

Literally, I’m stirring the pot since we are devolving into an obsession over literalsim.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:44 AM

No. You are literally moving the target as you get slapped down.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:46 AM

Literally, I’m stirring the pot since we are devolving into an obsession over literalsim.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:44 AM

OK, thanks for the clarification…. It just seemed to me that there’s a proper difference between yelling [a presumably] legitimate warning and “inciting”, which is a lot like yelling about the fire after you have set it….

RL on April 28, 2015 at 9:46 AM

Now it’s sickening? Moving the target from “inciting to riot” over to “sickening.” I hope you never get to decide who has freedom of speech and who doesn’t. Merry little dictator.

You’re mindset is so far to the right, you’re bumping butts with those fascists coming around from the other end of the spectrum.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:45 AM

No. You are literally moving the target as you get slapped down.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:46 AM

Go read what I posted again. If you can’t get right whose actions I called sickening then go soak your head in your own shiite.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:48 AM

Baltimore mayor says they made 200 arrests during the last 24 hours. With 7000 police and 5000 National Guard deployed that means that one officer out of one hundred bagged a perp. No wonder rioting is a growing occupational option.

Limerick on April 28, 2015 at 9:48 AM

You’re mindset is so far to the right, you’re bumping butts with those fascists coming around from the other end of the spectrum.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:45 AM

I didn’t realize you are this stupid, but apparently you are. Only the most idiotic believe in the circular political spectrum.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM

Let’s talk about the rioters but ignore cops breaking spines.

weedisgood on April 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM

Let’s talk about the rioters but ignore cops breaking spines.

weedisgood on April 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM

I would rather talk about what kind of engineer you are.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:53 AM

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM

Whatever you do NotCoach, don’t say “Goodness Gracious” to him. It gets him all riled up and such.

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 9:53 AM

I didn’t realize you are this stupid, but apparently you are. Only the most idiotic believe in the circular political spectrum.

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM

Belief and knowledge are two different things. I know, you believe.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:53 AM

He never gave any ORDERS to riot.

In that case ConstantineXI could be charged with “inciting to riot” considering MANY of the comments she has made on HA.

Watch out what you wish for.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM

Even if he had called explicitly for people to riot, he is still within his 1st Amendment rights. Even in the military, people are not to follow illegal orders.

And, no, I am not saying a superior or a government official has the 1st Amendment right to order or incite illegal activity. Nor am I arguing that one has the 1st Amendment right to order or incite illegal activity from someone who does not have the mental capacity to know right from wrong or understand the consequences of his/her actions.

davidk on April 28, 2015 at 9:53 AM

Let’s talk about the rioters but ignore cops breaking spines.

weedisgood on April 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 9:54 AM

Let’s talk about the rioters but ignore cops breaking spines.

weedisgood on April 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM

You already got knocked down for your addled thinking processes in the other thread. And you didn’t even bother to engage in a debate over your own statement.

When one only listens to themselves, they have a fool for a teacher.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:54 AM

Shep didn’t help, either. He said he saw cops throwing rocks back at the protesters. What he saw was the cops using their shields to deflect rocks thrown at them by the criminals. He is such a jerk.

Kissmygrits on April 28, 2015 at 9:19 AM

I cannot stand Shep either. But the cops were indeed picking up the rocks being thrown at them and hurling them right back at the mob. I saw it live and they even showed it again this am.

bernzright777 on April 28, 2015 at 9:54 AM

I’ll make it easier on you stoner.

Let’s talk about the rioters but ignore cops breaking spines.

weedisgood on April 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 9:57 AM

In the case of Marc Lamont Hill, the letters PhD after his name clearly stand for “piled high and deep.” What a dirt bag!

MadVlad on April 28, 2015 at 9:57 AM

I cannot stand Shep either. But the cops were indeed picking up the rocks being thrown at them and hurling them right back at the mob. I saw it live and they even showed it again this am.

bernzright777 on April 28, 2015 at 9:54 AM

Correct. There were cops throwing rocks back at the rioters.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:58 AM

Why is the left cheering what is basically vigilante justice?

lessgovnow on April 28, 2015 at 9:59 AM

Whatever you do NotCoach, don’t say “Goodness Gracious” to him. It gets him all riled up and such.

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 9:53 AM

lol

Belief and knowledge are two different things. I know, you believe.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:53 AM

Goodness Gracious!

NotCoach on April 28, 2015 at 10:01 AM

In a discussion on CNN led by Don Lemon that took place late Monday night, former White House green jobs czar Van Jones played the role of conservative panel guest. Yes, really. Even Jones was clearly disturbed by the justification for violence he heard from HuffPost Live host and Morehouse College professor Marc Lamont Hill.

More proof the world has been turned upside down.

Yeah, and Shep was absurd last night. His panties were in such a bunch, I turned the channel to CNN.

(Hear that Fox News…? Shep is that creepy.)

Fallon on April 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM

It’s time for the cops and the National Guard to start shooting.

They want a war? Fine, let ’em have it.

Nineball on April 28, 2015 at 10:03 AM

Naacp on cnn we’re going to focus on voter registration of black men

Seriously that’s what you’re going to focus on now????

cmsinaz on April 28, 2015 at 10:03 AM

Marc Lamont Hill has made a career off affirmative action and racism. He got his media start on FNC and then moved to CNN. Hill’s performance last night should end his media career, but it won’t.

bw222 on April 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM

When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of political brutality, it betrays itself.

Where are these people when rockets are fired at Israel?

LancerDL on April 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM

We want a national ban on racial profiling
-naacp spokesman

And you look who is running the pd in MD

Cripe

cmsinaz on April 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM

Hill’s performance last night should end his media career, but it won’t.

bw222 on April 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM

His eyes are creepy. They’re just so full of hate, you can see it.

bernzright777 on April 28, 2015 at 10:08 AM

“Blue lives”: Obama’s record is disturbing
https://www.facebook.com/notes/joe-kidd/blue-lives-obamas-record-is-disturbing/989925417686680

JoeKidd on April 28, 2015 at 10:09 AM

I wonder how many jobs were lost last night. How many woke up and realized their job was destroyed by fire last night? I know the media won’t cover that question. What amazes me is that many African immigrants such as the Nigerians are coming here and work hard and never complain let alone riot.

garydt on April 28, 2015 at 10:09 AM

I think some who called me by my nick name were trying to belittle me as if there was something wrong with trying to improve my lot in life. ; )

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 9:44 AM

Congratulations on getting out of the crab bucket.

https://filipinosaround.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/crabs-in-a-bucket-syndrome.jpg

GrumpyOldFart on April 28, 2015 at 10:11 AM

In the case of Marc Lamont Hill, the letters PhD after his name clearly stand for “piled high and deep.” What a dirt bag!

MadVlad on April 28, 2015 at 9:57 AM

It’s a mail order Ph.D., or equivalent thereof. He repeatedly proves in his babbling that he is not intellectually capable of any genuine degree of this type.

RL on April 28, 2015 at 10:12 AM

Naacp on cnn we’re going to focus on voter registration of black men

Seriously that’s what you’re going to focus on now????

cmsinaz on April 28, 2015 at 10:03 AM

Sure. Now that they’re dead, they can be counted on to turn out for every election, and to reliably vote Democrat without even having to spend campaign money on them.

GrumpyOldFart on April 28, 2015 at 10:13 AM

Just because you don’t agree with his opinion, pulling out the hyperbole card doesn’t not make his right to state opinions any less valid.

Walter L. Newton

And you’re supposed to be a journalist? He doesn’t have a “right” to say what he wants on CNN, and they are free to stop letting him speak any time they want. They aren’t the government.

xblade on April 28, 2015 at 10:14 AM

Let’s talk about the rioters but ignore cops breaking spines.

weedisgood on April 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM

Right, gotta keep things in proportion.

otlset on April 28, 2015 at 10:14 AM

He never gave any ORDERS to riot.

In that case ConstantineXI could be charged with “inciting to riot” considering MANY of the comments she has made on HA.

Watch out what you wish for.

Walter L. Newton on April 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM

She is a he, thank you.

And I would never incite people to riot. Riots are disorganized mobs that loot liquor stores while bypassing the library.

I want people reading the books IN the library, particularly to REDISCOVER the Enlightenment and what went into the ideals that founded our Nation. Far too many people are content to live under the DC thumb BECAUSE THEY ARE IGNORANT OF WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE!

I want that knowledge to incite a REVOLUTION, the overthrowing of a Tyrant and a Tyranny that cloaks itself in the trappings of Republic but in reality is no more responsive or responsible to the People of the United States than the thug Dictator in a typical Krapistan. I want this REPUBLIC in Name Only to be replaced with the REAL THING again.

If that is a crime, come arrest me.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 10:15 AM

But of course GOF

My bad

cmsinaz on April 28, 2015 at 10:16 AM

It’s a mail order Ph.D., or equivalent thereof. He repeatedly proves in his babbling that he is not intellectually capable of any genuine degree of this type.

RL on April 28, 2015 at 10:12 AM

Much like weedisgood’s engineering degree.

bernzright777 on April 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM

Don’t want your spine broken? Try not breaking the law. Shouldn’t be too difficult a concept. But more importantly, I do not remember any riots when George W. Bush was President and people had jobs. You remember those days, right, libfree? The days before the democrats took over and immediately dragged the deficit to over 1.6 trillion dollars? That’s deficit, not the debt. We’ll discuss that later.

Judge_Dredd on April 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM

This wouldn’t be happening if politicians and the scumbag media hadn’t perpetuated the “hands-up, don’t shoot” hogwash in Ferguson.

forest on April 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM

Don’t want your spine broken? Try not breaking the law. Shouldn’t be too difficult a concept. But more importantly, I do not remember any riots when George W. Bush was President and people had jobs. You remember those days, right, libfree? The days before the democrats took over and immediately dragged the deficit to over 1.6 trillion dollars? That’s deficit, not the debt. We’ll discuss that later.

Judge_Dredd on April 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM

Breaking the law doesn’t give the police license to mistreat and murder people in their custody.

Maybe you are willing to grant that kind of power to the bloated, inefficient and often evil Government but I’m not.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 10:21 AM

GrumpyOldFart on April 28, 2015 at 10:11 AM

Lolz! I managed it just before the water came to a boil.

Bmore on April 28, 2015 at 10:23 AM

Looks like the city D’Alesandro built is in disarray…
anybody ever find out what color the cops are that brought in Mr. Gray?

So far every one of these ‘spontaneous eruptions of peaceful protests’ have had a racial component driving them as does this one. But who is doing the driving this time?

DanMan on April 28, 2015 at 10:24 AM

His eyes are creepy. They’re just so full of hate, you can see it.

bernzright777 on April 28, 2015 at 10:08 AM

Just like D.L. Hughley. And the same elocution difficulty.

Breaking the law doesn’t give the police license to mistreat and murder people in their custody.

ConstantineXI on April 28, 2015 at 10:21 AM

Maybe he broke his own spine for the hell of it. But seriously, this isn’t the 1950s. Chances are, if you do what the cops tell you, they generally don’t manhandle you.

Judge_Dredd on April 28, 2015 at 10:25 AM

Don’t want your spine broken? Try not breaking the law. Shouldn’t be too difficult a concept. But more importantly, I do not remember any riots when George W. Bush was President and people had jobs. You remember those days, right, libfree? The days before the democrats took over and immediately dragged the deficit to over 1.6 trillion dollars? That’s deficit, not the debt. We’ll discuss that later.

Judge_Dredd on April 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM

And, while we’re at it…

FREDDY GRAY’S ARREST RECORD: Here’s The Rap Sheet Of The Dude They’re Destroying Baltimore Over
http://clashdaily.com/2015/04/freddy-grays-arrest-record-heres-the-rap-sheet-of-the-dude-theyre-destroying-baltimore-over/

March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)

RL on April 28, 2015 at 10:26 AM

I’m curious as to which of the hypothetical scenarios below could be more incendiary:

• The autopsy report indicates that Gray was otherwise healthy and non-toxic at the time of his arrest, and excessive force seems to be the underlying cause of death.

-OR-

• Gray had a significant amount of crack cocaine in his system and no evidence that a spine injury occurred as a result of the arrest exists.

And I’m curious as to why the city has not released even preliminary autopsy results.

BKeyser on April 28, 2015 at 10:28 AM

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