Bounce: Rubio rises to double digits in new national poll, leads Hillary by six in new Florida poll

posted at 11:31 am on April 20, 2015 by Allahpundit

Last week Nate Cohn wondered why a guy like Rubio with obvious “breakout potential” hasn’t broken out yet, early though it may be. No one expects him to run away with the nomination, but no one expected he’d be stuck at five percent either. As a conspicuously electable center-right candidate, why hasn’t he at least joined Jeb Bush and Scott Walker by polling in the mid-teens?

If you believe CNN, he’s on his way. For the moment.

Overall, 17% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents back Bush for the GOP nomination, while 12% support Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. Paul and Rubio stand at 11% each, with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 9% and Cruz at 7%…

On one metric, however, Bush has an emerging challenger. While 18% see Bush as the candidate who best represents the future of the Republican Party, the same share say fellow Floridian Rubio is the best representation of the GOP’s future. Paul, at 10%, is the only other candidate in double digits on this question…

Cruz’s announcement raised his numbers among Tea Party backers, but he has shown little improvement elsewhere. Among tea party supporters, Cruz and Walker tie for the top slot at 15%, Rubio follows at 14%, Paul 12%, and Bush 11% with the rest in single digits.

Rubio’s out-polling Rand Paul among tea partiers now, eh? Interesting footnote to the CNN results: Of the three Republicans who’ve formally announced they’re running, only two have seen their numbers improve since last month. Cruz gained three points (not coincidentally, Ben Carson, a competitor for the social conservative vote, lost five) and Rubio gained four points. Rand actually lost a point after jumping in. Maybe all of that is just an artifact of the margin of error, or maybe it’s an early warning that Rand’s “conservatarian” ceiling will be lower than everyone thinks.

Dig into the crosstabs and you’ll find that Rubio consistently does a few points better on various metrics with senior citizens in the 65+ group than he does with the next oldest demographic, the 50-64 crowd. I can’t figure out why that is, and it seems incongruous for a guy who’s young by the standards of presidential candidates, looks even younger than he actually is, and talks relentlessly about the future. Maybe it’s a simple matter of Rubio polling relatively well with tea partiers, his immigration heresy notwithstanding, and there being more senior citizens within the tea-party demographic here than slightly younger voters. Although in that case you’d expect Ted Cruz to poll better with 65+ voters than he does with 50-64 too, and he doesn’t. On multiple questions, he’s a few points better among the latter group than the former. Hmmm.

There’s more good news for Rubio in the head-to-head data against Hillary. Right now he does better against her than anyone else in the field, trailing by, uh, just 14 points, and he’s noticeably better against her among non-white voters than the rest of the GOP field is. Don’t get me wrong — he still gets crushed within that group, losing 74/22. But that 52-point spread is 10 points better than any other Republican manages. Jeb Bush, the other Great Latino Hope, loses non-whites by a cool 62-point margin. If that’s the start of a polling trend for Rubio in which he outperforms the competition consistently among Latino voters, you’d better believe the GOP’s donor class will rethink their loyalty to Jeb.

Speaking of which, new from Mason-Dixon polling, a snapshot of the battle for Florida 2016. Jeb does well against Hillary, leading her 47/43 and losing the Hispanic vote fairly narrowly by seven points. Rubio, however, does better:

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Rubio leads her 49/43 overall, with just one thin point separating them among Latinos. (Rubio’s also stronger than Jeb with black voters, who split 92/5(!) for Hillary against Bush.) You can asterisk those numbers if you like, starting with the facts that (a) Cuban-Americans in Florida are different in important demographic ways from most Latino voters nationwide and (b) Hillary can afford to lose Florida and Ohio and still win the election comfortably with 285 electoral votes provided she holds all other Obama states from 2012. The only thing these early polls are good for, though, is detecting the start of what may become significant trends among voters in the race to come. Rubio polling better than Bush consistently with Latinos anywhere would be a significant trend.

Here’s Rubio from over the weekend stressing that he thinks being gay is something you’re born with, not something you choose, another small break with social-con orthodoxy on issues related to gays. Exit question: Look back at the CNN poll’s numbers for Jeb and tell me, are they encouraging or discouraging for his candidacy? On several key questions, most notably which GOP contender has the right experience to be president, he’s quite a bit stronger than the rest of the field. He leads on “experience” with 27 percent of the vote versus just 15 percent for Scott Walker, the guy who finished closest to him, suggesting that his executive record in Florida is a big deal to voters. He’s also north of 20 percent when people are asked who would be the strongest leader (21 percent) and who has the best chance of beating the Democratic nominee (26 percent). And yet, for all of that, he pulls only 17 percent when voters are asked whom they prefer as nominee. Maybe that’s evidence that some people like Jeb’s resume but are withholding judgment until they see him in action at the debates; assuming he performs well, the fencesitters will feel reassured and he’ll bounce out to a bigger lead. Or maybe it’s evidence that, for all of Jeb’s good qualities, some segment of Republicans just isn’t going to tolerate a guy named “Bush” at the top of the ticket again, no matter how much they like what he did as governor.


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Right now he does better against her than anyone else in the field, trailing by, uh, just 14 points, and he’s noticeably better against her among non-white voters than the rest of the GOP field is. Don’t get me wrong — he still gets crushed within that group, losing 74/22. But that 52-point spread is 10 points better than any other Republican manages.

This poll is all Adults not registered or likely voters. While this poll looks uncompetitive for the GOP, a Fox News poll of registered voters a month ago looked a lot better.

KW64 on April 20, 2015 at 1:51 PM

if Obama had lost FL in 2012 he’d still have won comfortably with 303 ev.

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 1:40 PM

If Obama had been dead he’s have won comfortably in 2012. That wasn’t an election it was a Lifetime Movie Network special presentation.

kcewa on April 20, 2015 at 1:51 PM

Believe me, they get a LOT fewer clicks from me nowadays (and judging by the overall comment numbers, a lot fewer from a lot of readers), but if every conservative reader leaves the site, the comment section of every post becomes an echo chamber of establishment centrists and lefty trolls.

Besides, as a career copy editor, I like to amuse myself by looking at Noah’s near-illiterate attempts to form cohesive sentences.

Right Mover on April 20, 2015 at 1:49 PM

I don’t see that happening anytime soon, but enjoy!

thebrokenrattle on April 20, 2015 at 1:53 PM

In a perverse sort of way, I hope Rubio gets the nomination. Then I can prove that I wasn’t talking out of my hat when I said I wasn’t going to vote for the mofo. Easiest “non-vote” of my life.

MisterElephant on April 20, 2015 at 1:55 PM

The Dem candidate has no road to an electoral college victory without Florida.

kcewa on April 20, 2015 at 11:42 AM

Don’t you mean the R? It’s Rs who can’t lose Florida, or any other swing state, and hope to win the Presidency.

Dims have way to many electoral votes already in the bag, including NY, CA, NJ, PA, and IL.

cat_owner on April 20, 2015 at 2:14 PM

Oh brother.

We’re in big trouble.

hrh40 on April 20, 2015 at 2:31 PM

Wait for the next poll. HIs statement that gays are born that way will have impact…and no, Rubio,,,Gays are not born that way…they choose to be gay..

Bullhead on April 20, 2015 at 3:01 PM

Rubio is our best shot.

He’s ideologically imperfect, but I would argue most if not all the real contenders this cycle are not “border hawks.”

I’m willing to overlook the flaws when I can see a real argument for electability.

BradTank on April 20, 2015 at 3:05 PM

Bullhead on April 20, 2015 at 3:01 PM

When did you choose to be straight?

cat_owner on April 20, 2015 at 3:16 PM

Maybe there is a pattern here . . . hmmmm.

Shall we put our thinking caps on?

Let’s see the facts: candidate announces candidacy, or that he’s going to announce his candidacy, or some other similar tease that gets the media’s attention. For a couple of days, there is big coverage, culminating in the weekend talk shows.

Then, as if by miracle, the candidate’s standing in polls goes up the following week! What could possibly be causing this?

~~

Oh, well – guess it will remain a mystery, eh?

Adjoran on April 20, 2015 at 3:59 PM

Oh crap, after reading these comments I’m convinced. Clinton is going to win. I think I picked the wrong day to stop drinking.

steel guy on April 20, 2015 at 4:11 PM

Wait for the next poll. HIs statement that gays are born that way will have impact…and no, Rubio,,,Gays are not born that way…they choose to be gay..

Bullhead on April 20, 2015 at 3:01 PM

Walker went to a gay reception, I guess than makes his gay association less sinful no?

What will sky pappy say?

weedisgood on April 20, 2015 at 4:53 PM

Hillary is NOT going to win. Hillary will never be president.

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 4:53 PM

But there is another path to the Presidency through the Midwest. If a candidate like Scott Walker could win WI(10), MI(17), IA(6), OH(20), and VA(13), he could win the Presidency without FL.

Steve Z on April 20, 2015 at 1:37 PM

Walker trails by double digits in WI to Hillary in the latest MU poll, out last Thursday. And his approval here in WI is 41%.

Hillary is indestructible.

Maybe Rubio would carry

warriorgreg on April 20, 2015 at 4:55 PM

Walker trails by double digits in WI to Hillary in the latest MU poll, out last Thursday. And his approval here in WI is 41%.

Hillary is indestructible.

Maybe Rubio would carry

warriorgreg on April 20, 2015 at 4:55 PM

Only thing stopping Hillary from being President is another democrat.
Once she gets the nominations and brings the liberal base together, it’s over

weedisgood on April 20, 2015 at 5:01 PM

Hillary IS entirely destructible. Some of these early polls for her and bogus.

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 5:02 PM

Hillary is universally unlikable.

It’s not a base issue. Sure the D’s will fall in line, but it is not enough this time. Hillary will lose.

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 5:03 PM

Hillary is NOT going to win. Hillary will never be president.

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 4:53 PM

Wish I could share your optimism.

steel guy on April 20, 2015 at 5:06 PM

Hillary is shielded and protected by the mainstream blue media.

She is corrupt as the day is long, but the media still, to this day, haven’t asked her a single tough non-scripted question.

Are they going to cover for her for until the election?

They will need to. That’s a lot of hackery and hype.
I wonder if the MSM care if they lose all credibility? Every last shred?

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 5:13 PM

Maybe, but I can’t see Hillary winning all three of those states. Not with a good Republican candidate.

Remember that Mitt almost won Ohio, would have won if he had been willing to get his loafers dirty.

kcewa on April 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM

Obama could have lost FL, VA, and OH and still won with 270 ev.

Are you starting to understand the huge hole the republicans are in?

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 5:15 PM

Wait for the next poll. HIs statement that gays are born that way will have impact…and no, Rubio,,,Gays are not born that way…they choose to be gay..

Bullhead on April 20, 2015 at 3:01 PM

Twin studies be damned, huh?

Why do you guys hate science?

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 5:17 PM

Hillary is universally unlikable.

It’s not a base issue. Sure the D’s will fall in line, but it is not enough this time. Hillary will lose.

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 5:03 PM

She has better favorable numbers than everybody running for the nomination on the GOP side. You’re simply lying to yourself, the question, of course, is why?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 5:19 PM

My daughter has a friend who we have known since infancy who happens to be gay. My wife and I knew he was gay at about the age of five. He figured it out at the age of fourteen. You can’t tell me he wasn’t born that way.

steel guy on April 20, 2015 at 5:25 PM

I have a male gay friend who told me once, a long time ago, that it was difficult being gay. He said- “why would I chose this difficult life where I have to hide it most of the time?… It would be so much easier if I were straight.”

Good point.

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 5:40 PM

LOL – TLoc – those numbers are terrible for her.

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 5:41 PM

Are you starting to understand the huge hole the republicans are in?

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 5:15 PM

One piece of advice, the amount of posts and screeching/nervous tone in your postings leaves the impression (for the casual reader) that you are afraid. Just pointing it out. There is good reason for the fear so I don’t blame you.

BoxHead1 on April 20, 2015 at 5:48 PM

Are you starting to understand the huge hole the republicans are in?

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 5:15 PM

Bmore on April 20, 2015 at 6:29 PM

She has better favorable numbers than everybody running for the nomination on the GOP side. You’re simply lying to yourself, the question, of course, is why?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 5:19 PM

Lumpy, you’re hilarious! Still citing that bullsh1t HuffPo aggregate in thread after thread…get a clue & get a grip, you’re embarrassing yourself.

tanked59 on April 20, 2015 at 6:48 PM

It always amazes me that most on here so distrust the media but are so willing to believe push polls pimped by the media. Wake up people. Elections are not going to fix this country. Polls like elect5ions are now rigged to control the outcome.

bgibbs1000 on April 20, 2015 at 6:57 PM

LOL – TLoc – those numbers are terrible for her.

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 5:41 PM

Why? She has positive favorables and universal name recognition. Nobody running for the GOP nomination can say either. Add that to the big demographic edge dems have in presidential years and it looks very good for Hillary.

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 7:02 PM

One piece of advice, the amount of posts and screeching/nervous tone in your postings leaves the impression (for the casual reader) that you are afraid. Just pointing it out. There is good reason for the fear so I don’t blame you.

BoxHead1 on April 20, 2015 at 5:48 PM

You’re free to read my posts in any voice you like.

*shrug*

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 7:02 PM

Lumpy, you’re hilarious! Still citing that bullsh1t HuffPo aggregate in thread after thread…get a clue & get a grip, you’re embarrassing yourself.

tanked59 on April 20, 2015 at 6:48 PM

Still refusing to learn from 2012, huh? Poll aggregates are very effective. So, yeah, I’ll keep posting them. If you’ve got evidence of them being “bullsh1t” that doesn’t boil down to “because I don’t want to believe it” then feel free to post it.

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 7:05 PM

It always amazes me that most on here so distrust the media but are so willing to believe push polls pimped by the media. Wake up people. Elections are not going to fix this country. Polls like elect5ions are now rigged to control the outcome.

bgibbs1000 on April 20, 2015 at 6:57 PM

in 2012 the poll aggregates almost perfectly predicted the final results. So either

a) the polls contain valuable information

b) it was a series of incredible coincidences (you know, 50 of them), or

c) you believe in some massive conspiracy across all the states to fix the vote counts to match the polls

Pick one.

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 7:08 PM

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 7:08 PM

Not all polls are created equal.

I simply don’t believe that as many as 17% of Republicans support Jeb, or that even 1% feel that he is the “future of the party”.

Redstone on April 20, 2015 at 7:19 PM

I was referring to criticism of Rubio to jump from a first term senate seat to the White House being rather unwise. Cruz and Paul wish to do the same. I would prefer Rubio to take a veep spot under a governor; do you see Paul or Cruz accepting such a position?

thebrokenrattle on April 20, 2015 at 12:20 PM

I see Cruz accepting it; maybe not Paul.

I don’t see either of them being offered it. Cruz is too much identified with a particular right wing constituency that the institutional GOP does not like, and he his too fond of disruptive tactics. Paul is too identified with an unusual set of policy positions and maybe too prickly. By old school standards, none of them, Cruz, Paul or Rubio, are adequately experienced.

David Blue on April 20, 2015 at 7:27 PM

Are they going to cover for her for until the election?

AprilApple on April 20, 2015 at 5:13 PM

And after.

David Blue on April 20, 2015 at 7:32 PM

The fact that he got caught YET AGAIN saying different things to Spanish and English audiences proves yet again that Rubio is “not ready for prime-time”.

Redstone on April 20, 2015 at 1:15 PM

Like Romney, he is a man who has won only one election. He knows how to look slick but not how to avoid getting caught in his lies.

David Blue on April 20, 2015 at 7:45 PM

Marco Rubio is not a conservative.

Right Mover on April 20, 2015 at 1:38 PM

Right.

Hot Air is not a conservative website, and hasn’t been for at least 3-4 years.

Right Mover on April 20, 2015 at 1:38 PM

Also right.

It seems strange now. How could Michelle Malkin ever have been connected to a site like this?

By not moving much, Allah has become this site right wing death beast, by comparison. I come here much less often than I used to — without him and MKH, maybe it would be not at all.

David Blue on April 20, 2015 at 7:53 PM

Not all polls are created equal.

I simply don’t believe that as many as 17% of Republicans support Jeb, or that even 1% feel that he is the “future of the party”.

Redstone on April 20, 2015 at 7:19 PM

Not all polls are created, true, and if you want to evaluate their quality we can look at their accuracy.

You may feel the republicans don’t support Jeb but the polls say otherwise. When faced with contrary evidence do you alter views to fit the evidence or discard the evidence? The latter not good.

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 7:55 PM

Like Romney, he is a man who has won only one election. He knows how to look slick but not how to avoid getting caught in his lies.

David Blue on April 20, 2015 at 7:45 PM

It’s hard to keep track, “wait a second, did I say this in English or Spanish?” A good thing he only speaks two languages.

Redstone on April 20, 2015 at 7:57 PM

A candidate who is right on the issues has extreme value even if he is a Senator. A candidate who is wrong on the issues is worthless and/or dangerous even if he has more experience. Vote the issues not the experience. If a candidate has both, then fine. But experience does not trump issues.

Rose on April 20, 2015 at 8:01 PM

You may feel the republicans don’t support Jeb but the polls say otherwise. When faced with contrary evidence do you alter views to fit the evidence or discard the evidence? The latter not good.

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 7:55 PM

You shouldn’t just accept odd things at face value.

Most of these polls that show Jeb doing well have very high margins of error, and are of adults, not likely voters.

There are no Jeb supporters, anywhere, that I encounter. On here I have only seen one, and I don’t think that they even admit that they were supporting Jeb at all.

There were plenty of Barack supporters in 2012, obviously. Also, things can change quickly; Sandy helped Barack.

Also, he is a very unique candidate ethnically, with a fanatically devoted African American base whose turnout was unprecedented and therefore hard to predict.

So, the fact that the polls in 2012 were correct does not mean that all polls are infallible.

And in any case, 17% isn’t very good. 83% want someone else.

Redstone on April 20, 2015 at 8:03 PM

Let’s see. In 2008 I went to the polls, held my nose and voted for John McCain.In 2012 I held my nose and voted for Romney.Now my nose hurts and in 2016 I will go to the polls and vote only if Ted Cruz is the Republican nominee.Rubio is a liar,Walker supported the same Gang of 8 bill,Huckabee is a big government,creepy preacher,Santorum is another big government lover and arrogant to boot,Rand Paul is as liberal as Obama on social issues and a naive loon on foreign policy,Miss Lindsey is the amnesty Queen and even though he loves a man in uniform he wouldn’t hesitate to send them to any conflict anywhere on earth for no damned good reason and get them killed,Carson has to explain away every sentence he utters,and Jeb Bush is really Hillary Clinton,except he speaks Spanish and isn’t a lesbian.So I will not be holding my nose in 2016,because if anybody other than Cruz is nominated then old Hill is right when she says “At this point what difference does it make?”

redware on April 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM

You may feel the republicans don’t support Jeb but the polls say otherwise. When faced with contrary evidence do you alter views to fit the evidence or discard the evidence? The latter not good.

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 7:55 PM

We are many months from the debates. One thing any pollster will tell you is the polls dramatically change once people are paying attention. Right now it’s name recognition + good press. In 6 months the issues, candidate history will matter and policy positions will matter even more. Screaming about poll numbers this early is a sign of nervousness.

If Hillary was any good you wouldn’t need to site bogus early polls. You would be citing her history and policy positions but you don’t…ever…write…about …actual accomplishments. You know why. I know why. And it’s why you are hung up on some nbc poll or whatever 6 months away from the first debate.

And on top of that, even with the press on her side she is fouling up her own campaign. We can all see it. It’s not brain surgery -it’s more like basic hygiene. Nothing you write can clean up her little accidents. You think people are going to be convinced that Hillary is a good candidate from your early early polls. You aren’t even convinced of it I’m sure – if you have half a wit. I mean , it’s frking hillary clinton – she’s a clown and it’s obvious to most. Even your fellow dem posters always include a disclaimer about hillary(‘i don’t like hillary but…’).

BoxHead1 on April 20, 2015 at 8:12 PM

Rubio is a joke.

He supports amnesty and is banking on low-info voters to get him the nomination. But it won’t work.

Enough Republicans are tired of establishment-backed phonies like him who lack any sort of conservative conviction.

bluegill on April 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM

I meant to respond to this

Are you starting to understand the huge hole the republicans are in?

Tlaloc on April 20, 2015 at 5:15 PM

BoxHead1 on April 20, 2015 at 8:20 PM

It’s hard to keep track, “wait a second, did I say this in English or Spanish?” A good thing he only speaks two languages.

Redstone on April 20, 2015 at 7:57 PM

:D

David Blue on April 20, 2015 at 8:36 PM

Rubio is a fraud. He is an establishment guy who runs to the grass roots when he needs their support but ignores them and hangs with elitists when there is no campaign going on.

He wants amnesty, he wants the Patriot Act locked in forever, and he has too big an affinity for compromise with progressive bad actors.

If he were President he would sell out in order to “get something done” just like he did as Speaker of the House in Florida.

I dont understand the interest in a guy who has shown such terrible judgment in the biggest moments.

Also, his answers to tough questions so far on gay marriage, amnesty, and liberty have been underwhelming and verbose. Like a guy searching for the right talking point.

He will only disappoint when words must become actions. Thats his MO as i see it.

alecj on April 21, 2015 at 7:09 AM

It always amazes me that most on here so distrust the media but are so willing to believe push polls pimped by the media. Wake up people. Elections are not going to fix this country. Polls like elect5ions are now rigged to control the outcome.

bgibbs1000 on April 20, 2015 at 6:57 PM

“Push poll” doesn’t mean what you apparently think it means.

Atlantian on April 21, 2015 at 9:57 AM

Most of these polls that show Jeb doing well have very high margins of error, and are of adults, not likely voters.

Redstone on April 20, 2015 at 8:03 PM

Where do you people get this stuff? The MOE in the CNN poll is 3%. As far as MOE goes in national political polling, 3% is actually a bit better than the average. A “very high margin of error” in political polling would be something north of 5%.

Bush is at 17% in the CNN poll. The polling isn’t wrong. It’s completely understandable why the guy who’s the son and brother of US presidents is leading the field this early on.

Atlantian on April 21, 2015 at 10:05 AM

Bullschmidt

Jayrae on April 21, 2015 at 11:01 AM

As far as MOE goes in national political polling, 3% is actually a bit better than the average. A “very high margin of error” in political polling would be something north of 5%

Most of them are above 5% or higher.

Also, adults vs. likely voters.

I think that to get 17% of “Republican” voters saying that they support Jeb is pretty tough, they are deliberately targeting the most uninformed and non politically involved, possibly “independents” as well.

Only a fool woud take every poll at face value, there are always agendas and the polls are sometimes used to shape opinion, not accurately measure it.

Redstone on April 21, 2015 at 11:10 AM

A vote for any one of the establishment-backed trio of Walker, Jeb or Rubio is a vote for illegal alien amnesty.

bluegill on April 21, 2015 at 12:34 PM

A vote for any one of the establishment-backed trio of Walker, Jeb or Rubio is a vote for illegal alien amnesty.

bluegill on April 21, 2015 at 12:34 PM

And so is a vote for Cruz.

President Cruz will give us, per his stated positions:

1. A huge increase in legal immigration.
2. A huge increase in H-1B1 visas.
3. Legalization without a pathway to citizenship (which we all know will lead to a path to citizenship) for current illegals.
4. Tougher border security (also advocated by Rubio and Bush).

In other words, the Cruz position is the Bush/Rubio position. Not a speck of difference.

Joseph K on April 21, 2015 at 12:46 PM

Joseph K on April 21, 2015 at 12:46 PM

Cruz has never supported citizenship for illegal aliens, as the pro-amnesty trio of Jeb, Walker and Rubio have.

I’ve spent the last two years bashing Cruz but if he keeps this up I’ll vote for him. This was an easy lay up for Walker and he blew it. Now I don’t believe him on immigration. Walker is making too many rookie mistakes for my taste.
Joseph K on March 8, 2015 at 4:48 PM

By your own admission, you have spent years “bashing” Cruza d Palin. Ok, fine. That’s your choice. Joana and Meredith would be proud.

But people who know amnesty must be stopped are not so quick to trust Walker, who has been a bigger flip-flopper than Mitt Romney and who as recently as a month ago advocated a position on amnesty to the left of Jeb Bush. We were burned once with Romney, and we don’t want to make the same mistake.

As for Walker on increasing skilled immigration, he was pretty adamant about it just a couple years ago. Didn’t seem confused or conflicted at all. See video here:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/scott-walker-supports-path-to-citizenship-87960.html

Walker has been all over the place on the issue. See link below. Others may believe Walker’s questionable, well-timed conversions, but I doubt his sincerity, especially when you consider Walker’s alliances with establishment party leaders and the Chamber of Commerce.
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/03/both-sides-of-the-fence-walker-position-on-amnesty

I know that you often make over-the-top, out-there rants against conservatives Cruz and Palin. Seems curious that you appear willing to give pro-amnesty, establishment-backed Walker, who has for years been to the left of them both, the benefit of the doubt.

Until [the GOP] is wiped from the face of the earth, I will vote for the people who overtly advocate what the GOP covertly advocates. Reverse Cloward-Piven.
In 2016, it’s Fake Indian [Elizabeth Warren] for me!
Joseph K on March 27, 2015 at 4:14 PM

What you will not find is me putting on my knee pads … for Ted Cruz … whose wife is a North American Union shill for Goldman Sachs. I am also not fond of the Communist Sarah Palin. She ran Alaska like some tin pot Third World Socialist. She’s closer to Hugo Chavez than to the Founding Fathers.
Joseph K on December 14, 2014 at 5:02 PM

bluegill on April 21, 2015 at 1:13 PM

One Republican Candidate Doesn’t Support Amnesty:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/03/which_republican_presidential_candidates_support_amnesty.html

Ted Cruz: Ted Cruz is the only major candidate who has never supported or endorsed amnesty.

-End Obama’s illegal amnesty via Congress’ checks & balances. (Nov 2014)

-Defund amnesty, and refuse any nominees until rescinded. (Nov 2014)

-No path to citizenship for 1.65 million illegals in Texas. (Oct 2012)

-Give police more power to ask about immigration status. (Jun 2012)

-Boots on the ground, plus a wall. (Apr 2012)

-Triple the size of the Border Patrol. (Mar 2012)

-Strengthen border security and increase enforcement. (Jul 2011)

bluegill on April 21, 2015 at 1:18 PM

I think Rubio is playing us.

It would not surprise me at all if his whole candidacy was a setup for him to be Jeb’s veep.

I don’t trust him.

Bush camp has been awfully quiet as of late…….

ReaganCajun on April 21, 2015 at 5:24 PM

I don’t understand why the Immigration reform foray would hurt Rubio with actual Tea Partiers. I thought the Tea Party was about ending bailouts and too big to fail, economic issues. It wasn’t about social conservatism or nativism.

eaglephin on April 21, 2015 at 5:54 PM

Ugh, stop it with the Rubio crap.

Levinite on April 21, 2015 at 11:43 PM

No nation-wide polls in this country are valid, anyway. This one was a poll of 1506 people, out of a nation of 320+ million. That’s pretty typical of national polls. But wait, let me put that another way:

1,506 people out of
320,000,000 people

That’s only 4.7% of the population telling you what the rest of us believe.

Think about that. Only 5 people out of every 100 were included in this poll. How is that possibly representative of the other 95 out of every 100? It’s ridiculous.

No wait, scratch that. I’m off a few decimal places…

Imagine this same scenario but with only .00047% of the population telling you what the rest of us believe. That’s 5 out of every one million people…

yaedon on April 21, 2015 at 8:24 PM

Politricks on April 22, 2015 at 1:19 AM