Florida Republicans: Rubio betrayed Jeb by running for president

posted at 6:01 pm on April 10, 2015 by Noah Rothman

Florida’s Republican political establishment is none too happy with the upstart Sen. Marco Rubio and his presumptuous attempt to rob his state’s former governor of the presidential nomination that is his due.

The Tampa Bay Times political reporter Adam Smith published an interesting post on Friday featuring the results of an informal survey of over “130 savvy Florida political players,” and he found that the vast majority believe Jeb Bush is much better positioned to defeat Hillary Clinton in Florida than Rubio.

“More than 78 percent of our Florida Insiders said Bush would be the stronger candidate against Clinton in Florida,” Smith wrote. But even this post’s author acknowledges that these unscientific results should be taken with a grain of salt because “our survey sample loaded with people who have previously worked for Gov. Bush or are currently actively supporting him.”

What’s more, there seems to be a fair bit of consternation toward Rubio for being a Washington D.C.-based U.S. Senator. “Since his 2010 win, (Rubio) seems to have largely ignored his Florida base and continued campaigning nationwide utilizing the same plan and speeches he has employed since 2009 – now with the addition a foreign policy component,” one unnamed Florida politico told Smith.

But the most common thread in this post is that many of these admittedly pro-Bush political professionals believe that Rubio’s decision to run for the presidency marks a betrayal of Shakespearian proportions.

“Most FL Republican heavyweights are supporting Jeb and see Marco running against him as an act of disloyalty towards his mentor,” said an unnamed Florida-based Republican. “It will complicate possible future aspirations in FL, should he not win.”

That sounds like a particularly Clintonian threat. How is this reaction any different from former White House Deputy Chief of Staff and Priorities USA PAC chairman Jim Messina’s attempt to justify Hillary Clinton’s presidential bid by simply insisting that “it’s her turn and her time?” The strong suggestion from these Sunshine State politicos is that Rubio should have waited his turn in line, and there will be consequences for his insolence.

That presumption alone is reason enough to back Rubio over Jeb.

But offending the pro-Bush constituency in Florida is not the only heterodoxy in which Rubio has recently engaged. “Marco Rubio is about to shake up the Republican presidential primary by running on a tax plan that tosses out decades of GOP allegiance to the idea of simply slashing rates across the board and expecting faster economic growth to follow,” Politico reported on Friday.

Rubio’s populist approach to tax reform, is from a political perspective, an effort to defuse the Democratic Party’s attack on Republicans as being unduly favorable toward the rich at the expense of the general public. Despite Hillary Clinton’s ties to the financial sector, she has repeatedly signaled that she plans to use this line of attack to both secure her left flank and cudgel the eventual Republican nominee during the general election.

Republicans aren’t especially thrilled with Rubio’s attempt at triangulation here either. “Some argue that it leaves the top rate far too close to the current highest bracket of 39.6 percent,” Politico‘s report read. “And they note that it would apply the 35 percent rate to individual incomes as low as $75,000, possibly exposing many middle-income earners to a significant tax hike.”

That is truly worrisome, but the middle class will likely endure an even greater tax burden under President Clinton.


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Anything that helps to stop Bush is good with me. Rubio certainly won’t get the Nom, but maybe he pulls Bush away enough to allow Cruz to squeeze in.

Corporal Tunnel on April 10, 2015 at 6:06 PM

Neither one is any good. Hope they cancel out each other’s votes.

Both are pro-amnesty. Rubio is particularly disappointing, since he sold himself very differently when he was running for Senate.

bluegill on April 10, 2015 at 6:07 PM

Tweedle dee and Tweedle dum… y’all can pick out which one is the dum one, Jeb (who?) or Rubio.

31giddyup on April 10, 2015 at 6:07 PM

O/T
Drudge:
Elle cover + Chelsea = one very good air brush artist

31giddyup on April 10, 2015 at 6:08 PM

This makes me like Rubio more than I did, anyway.

Warner Todd Huston on April 10, 2015 at 6:10 PM

You may not like Rubio, but he agrees with you that Jeb Bush would take us in the wrong direction, with even more big government, not less.

RBMN on April 10, 2015 at 6:12 PM

O/T
Drudge:
Elle cover + Chelsea = one very good air brush artist

31giddyup on April 10, 2015 at 6:08 PM

There is not enough airbrushing in the galaxy. Poor thing.
She also inherited their ignorance.

Oh, and Florida. Charlie Crist. Just shut up, they both suck.

HornetSting on April 10, 2015 at 6:13 PM

Anything to stop Jeb. We need no more Bushes and no more Clintons in the Oval Office. Toooo Much Baggage…..way toooo much!

Ellen85219 on April 10, 2015 at 6:17 PM

From this:

The Tampa Bay Times political reporter Adam Smith published an interesting post on Friday featuring the results of an informal survey of over “130 savvy Florida political players,” and he found that the vast majority believe Jeb Bush is much better positioned to defeat Hillary Clinton in Florida than Rubio.

“More than 78 percent of our Florida Insiders said Bush would be the stronger candidate against Clinton in Florida,” Smith wrote. But even this post’s author acknowledges that these unscientific results should be taken with a grain of salt because “our survey sample loaded with people who have previously worked for Gov. Bush or are currently actively supporting him.”

To this:

Florida Republicans: Rubio betrayed Jeb by running for president

You’re late for April Fool, Noah.

Mommys Little Darling on April 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM

Is there no honor among sellouts?

VorDaj on April 10, 2015 at 6:24 PM

Conservatives across the nation: Who gives a sh!t?

Neither, if elected, will do anything to slow the progressive agenda.

ROCnPhilly on April 10, 2015 at 6:24 PM

Rubio betrayed … his own constituents, the very conservatives that put him in office, by repeatedly saying that he was firmly against amnesty, over and over in a “read my lips” sort of way. Then, in a NY Minute, he switched over to team with Schumer and Obama.

Of course we should have known that Rubio was a Trojan Horse that was going to betray us. His own Chief of Staff was immigration lawyer and major open borders shill Cesar Conda. Not a coincidence. Here’s the Google on Rubio’s Chief of Staff Cesar Conda.

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http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2013/05/19/laura-ingraham-marco-rubio-has-betrayed-conservatives/

anotherJoe on April 10, 2015 at 6:25 PM

LOL. BETRAYAL is what Rubio does best. No one cares if Marco “betrayed” his Siamese twin, Jeb – but everyone cares that Marco BETRAYED every single person who voted for him or supported him in his Senate run. Rubio and Bush are two dirty, “progressive” peas in a pod.

Pork-Chop on April 10, 2015 at 6:28 PM

O/T
Drudge:
Elle cover + Chelsea = one very good air brush artist

31giddyup on April 10, 2015 at 6:08 PM

They really softened her scary horse face.

Pork-Chop on April 10, 2015 at 6:32 PM

Both Jeb and Hillary think they are owed it.

Get lost.

AprilApple on April 10, 2015 at 6:33 PM

I suggest that they form a gentleman’s agreement and both refrain from running.

Stoic Patriot on April 10, 2015 at 6:34 PM

Rubio is hardly progressive.

Are we gonna run down every candidate? that only helps Hillary – the most corrupt pol there is.

HAD anyone of us used private e-mail while working for any (you name it) corporation – we would have been fired. Fired. Period.

Nothing on the GOP side compares to her corruption.

AprilApple on April 10, 2015 at 6:36 PM

Is there no honor among sellouts?

VorDaj on April 10, 2015 at 6:24 PM

If your favorite experienced politician isn’t a sellout, it probably means that you aren’t looking hard enough. They’re all sellouts on some issue. What else do they have to trade with each other? And if they don’t trade, they may as well not be there. Nothing they want will ever happen.

RBMN on April 10, 2015 at 6:39 PM

If Rubio gets the nod then I’ll tell him he can count on my vote.

rogerb on April 10, 2015 at 6:47 PM

[April, 2015]
It’s on! RINO war! RINO war! RINO war! RINO war is on, everybody! It’s going down!

[November, 2016]
Dems win! Dems win! RINO war is over, everybody! Dems won again!

Calas on April 10, 2015 at 6:53 PM

Let them eat their own. Both are Teleprompter guys.

Rubio has no accomplishments, he has only been “for” stuff. He was unsuccessful in his 20 years in the private sector b/c it took him 20 years to pay off his $100K student loan.

Bush had his crony capitalism PAC which is sponsored by the companies benefiting from Common Core–too obvious for anyone to miss. Hope the other candidates are not going to overlook this fatal flaw.

KenInIL on April 10, 2015 at 6:54 PM

Are we gonna run down every candidate? that only helps Hillary – the most corrupt pol there is.

Then let’s stop having candidates that give folks reasons to run them down. Jesus Christ, here we have Rubio talking about raising taxes, but it will be okay because Clinton will raise them more, lol. It’s pathetic.

HAD anyone of us used private e-mail while working for any (you name it) corporation – we would have been fired. Fired. Period.

Nothing on the GOP side compares to her corruption.

AprilApple

Had any of us used the company credit card to buy personal items like Rubio did, we’d be fired and in prison. So yeah, keep telling yourself that.

xblade on April 10, 2015 at 7:06 PM

No Problem Here . . . I WON’T VOTE FOR EITHER OF THEM!

Nat George on April 10, 2015 at 7:08 PM

Dems win! Dems win! RINO war is over, everybody! Dems won again!

Calas

You do know electing a RINO…aka democrat…is a victory the dems, right? Why don’t we stop settling for RINOs? Democrats don’t have any democrats in name only, why must our side settle for the least liberal republican in name only? Democrats have no problem finding candidates that embrace every aspect of the democrat platform, yet republicans have to settle for candidates who also embrace several aspects of the democrat platform. Why is that?

xblade on April 10, 2015 at 7:13 PM

Clintons/Bushs, the US Mafia?

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2015 at 7:17 PM

I’m glad Rubio is running..:)

Dire Straits on April 10, 2015 at 7:21 PM

anotherJoe on April 10, 2015 at 6:25 PM

There are those who think that we should ignore the fact that Rubio is a well-documented, pathological liar – simply because he’s not as big a liar as Hillary.

Pork-Chop on April 10, 2015 at 7:23 PM

Rubio is hardly progressive.

Are we gonna run down every candidate? that only helps Hillary – the most corrupt pol there is.

HAD anyone of us used private e-mail while working for any (you name it) corporation – we would have been fired. Fired. Period.

Nothing on the GOP side compares to her corruption.

AprilApple on April 10, 2015 at 6:36 PM

Well said.

GOPRanknFile on April 10, 2015 at 7:26 PM

AprilApple on April 10, 2015 at 6:36 PM

+ 100..:)

Dire Straits on April 10, 2015 at 7:28 PM

You’re late for April Fool, Noah.

Mommys Little Darling on April 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM

But for you, there is never a due date.

ricoliv on April 10, 2015 at 7:35 PM

Are we gonna run down every candidate? that only helps Hillary – the most corrupt pol there is.

Every candidate that has terrible positions, yes.

Using Hillary as the big bad bogeywoman isn’t going to work with Jeb since the two are the same.

Rubio is not as patently absurd of a candidate as Jeb, but people aren’t going to forget his shameless lying and the atrocious bill that he chose to put his name on.

Redstone on April 10, 2015 at 7:41 PM

But for you, there is never a due date.

ricoliv on April 10, 2015 at 7:35 PM

This from someone who chose “RICO Low Information Voter” as a nom.

Mommys Little Darling on April 10, 2015 at 7:52 PM

Well, the establishment was not happy with Rubio when he ran for the Senate. So there is that…

ojfltx on April 10, 2015 at 8:23 PM

Rubio is not may favorite mostly because he is too neo-conservative in foreign polices for my liking. Too much Wilson, not enough Jackson…

But he is better than Jeb, and anything Rubio can do to mess up Florida for Jeb in the GOP primaries is a good thing. In fact Rubio can be viewed as a net positive politically for conservatives…he will have played a major role in ending the political careers of Crist and Jeb. That goes a long way in making up for his faults for now at least.

William Eaton on April 10, 2015 at 8:29 PM

Well, the establishment was not happy with Rubio when he ran for the Senate. So there is that…
ojfltx on April 10, 2015 at 8:23 PM

LOL. The same FLGOPe that once supported Charlie Crist. That they once thot him acceptable republican in good standing tells you all you need to know–Big govt all the way!

AH_C on April 10, 2015 at 8:33 PM

Jeb has no position running for president in the first place. All the polls show that republicans are as likely to vote non of the above if he wins nomination. So who cares who stepped on his toes? He shouldn’t be in the ring at all.

Karmashock on April 10, 2015 at 9:07 PM

The strong suggestion from these Sunshine State politicos is that Rubio should have waited his turn in line, and there will be consequences for his insolence.

What crap! More corrupt gopE Kabuki theater.

The Dauphin Jeb told Rubio in 2010 that it was not his turn it was Orange Charlie’s. Rubio sufferred no consequences from the establishment RINOs. They donated to his campaign. Rubio screwed the conservative grassroots who backed him once he arrived in the “District of Corruption.”

Rubio will suffer no consequences. He joined the Gang of H8 just like the Dauphin Jeb told him to do.

Rubio, the little prima donna, is bored in the senate. He is just one of many. After he loses in the primary Jeb will have a nice position lined up for him and grease the skids for him to run as governor.

Jayrae on April 10, 2015 at 9:10 PM

Rubio is hardly progressive.

Are we gonna run down every candidate? that only helps Hillary – the most corrupt pol there is.

AprilApple on April 10, 2015 at 6:36 PM

On the most important long term issue for our country, massive immigration, Rubio is at least as bad as Hillary. Massive immigration will turn this nation socialist as effectively as any policy that a liberal Democratic President can implement.

I know, I know… All that matters is that a guy with an R after his name beat a person with a D after their name. Or that we lower the taxes for multinational corporations or continue to fight endless wars that have nothing to do with protecting our country…

Thresher on April 10, 2015 at 10:53 PM

Let’s start off with this, the major reason Allen West is not the Representative in my district is because of Establishment Republicans who did a little redistricting and made it easier for Murphy to win. The only reason Bill Nelson is the Senator from Florida is because Establishment Republicans picked Connie Mack IV to be the nominee, instead of George Lemieux. There’s one reason the Republicans have one Senator from Florida, the establishment picked Charlie Crist to be their nominee, the tea party picked Marco Rubio, Christ didn’t make it to the primary (and for many good reasons) Rubio won, beating both the independent Christ and the Democrat, Kendrick Meek.

The establishment wants Jeb Bush. They could win and, if they do it’s possible Bush will be defeated for reasons beyond his control. If the Establishment is ticked off at Rubio for running, it’s really not his fault, it’s a political calculation. The State is blessed to have 2 people capable of running for President. Let the best man win and call it a day. Don’t try to tear Rubio down or cry the blues because he’s not loyal to JEB. You really have no leg to stand on after what you pulled with Charlie Crist.

bflat879 on April 10, 2015 at 11:17 PM

Just to focus on the Rubio Bush subject – Bush was probably the most successful two term gov in FL history, and as a FL resident I don’t think that our first term Senator will give him much of a problem. Rubio will not raise nearly as much money, and will not poll as well in early primary states. Rubio’s already damaged brand will be hurt even worse the moment he announces, and his FL senate seat will be in jeopardy. Not very smart to give up a senate seat on such a whim.

sleepyhead on April 10, 2015 at 11:21 PM

In short then, Marco and Jeb have roughly the same relationship as Obama and Hillary in 2008. Attractive, young ethnic upstart vs animal-faced, establishment, famous-named, entitled heir.

Be afraid, Jeb.

arhooley on April 11, 2015 at 12:30 AM

Florida Republicans: Rubio betrayed Jeb by running for president

Florida Republicans can shove it. As can the Florida Democrats. They all suck.

They better pray nothing ever happens to the tourism industry. There really isn’t much else propping up this state’s economy except for government installations.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 11, 2015 at 2:50 AM

Rubio has lied straight to your face on the gang of eight bill.

wheelgun on April 11, 2015 at 7:45 AM

Would never vote for either of them.One is a Dem Lite,the other a straight out liar.But the real issue here is the the fact that the entrenched GOP establishment,whether in Florida or anywhere else cares nil about the country and everything about keeping themselves entrenched.They couldn’t care less about the fact that Bush cannot win the general.If 6 million didn’t show up for Romney,just think how many will stay home if Bush is the nominee.And if you think that Hispanic voters who love getting their butts kissed by Jeb will make up the difference, you have been smoking the same stuff all of Rand Paul’s supporters smoke.Bottom line,as long as the GOPe gets to pick the nominee,they stay in power,no matter how bad their nominee loses the general.

redware on April 11, 2015 at 8:04 AM

If Jeb Bush is the GOP candidate, the Republicans have already lost. If he runs, it should be as a DemocRAT…better suited to his lying fraudulent politics.

phoebe1 on April 12, 2015 at 10:13 AM

I seem to remember that Marco has been nibbling at the edges of the race for several years longer than Jeb. Pardon me, to all you RINOS, that should be HRH Prince Jeb.
You are the definition of A – Os.

Old Country Boy on April 12, 2015 at 1:19 PM