Hot new liberal theory: Memories Pizza orchestrated this fiasco because they wanted the online donations

posted at 11:21 am on April 3, 2015 by Allahpundit

Best Trutherism ever. Nothing else comes close.

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It adds up. ABC57 reporter Alyssa Marino walks through the door of the pizzeria during a Category Five news-storm over RFRA and asks, “Anyone here got a problem with catering gay weddings?” The pizzeria employees slink away, knowing what a “yes” would mean for their careers. But not Memories CEO Crystal O’Connor. As usual, she’s one step ahead of the game. Instantly she recognizes that if she says yes to Marino, the left will go apesh*t, flooding her business with crank calls, death threats, and nasty online reviews. The business will close temporarily. And then enraged conservatives will rally to her side, showering her with solidarity cash beyond her wildest small-town dreams. The GoFundMe take as I write this: $528,000 and counting. It’s a scam, engineered by an unassuming but quietly brilliant pizza-shop owner whose ability to anticipate partisan strikes and counterstrikes really should have her in charge of a Fortune 500 PR company. Coming soon: The Barbara Walters interview and then a bestselling book. She’ll retire by 40. Watch the clip below and you’ll see what I mean. No one as slick and comfortable on camera as O’Connor is could have possibly stumbled innocently into this culture-war clusterfark. She’s the “Gone Girl” of religious liberty.

Or, alternate theory: The more excitable members of the left’s gay-marriage mob can’t cope with how this Two Minutes Hate for O’Connor and her business played out. So, as conspiracy theorists are wont to do, they’re reaching for an explanation that makes them feel better about it. What I can’t figure out is whether it’s malice or actually some vestigial pangs of remorse about the mob atmosphere that are driving the conspiracy. Maybe they’re angry that the family hasn’t been utterly ruined for their thoughtcrime — or maybe on some level they think, but can’t bring themselves to admit, that people shouldn’t be ruined for politely dissenting from the new norm on gay marriage. If O’Connor is some grifter mastermind who engineered this debacle for the money then there’s really no need to feel bad about the abuse she’s taken. She wanted it. She’s making bank off it. The left did her a big favor. In fact, I ran across three examples on Twitter in the past 24 hours of liberals insisting that some or all of the abuse O’Connor and her business have taken is actually the handiwork of homophobic right-wing mobys eager to drum up sympathy for her. The Truther theory is of a piece with that. At some point today, rest assured, O’Connor herself will be accused of trolling her own Yelp page.

Nah. They’re just bummed that she hasn’t been ruined. Cheer up, though: Per Rick Wilson, eventually some extra-virtuous SJW somewhere will end up shooting a gay-marriage opponent in the face for his sins. If you think the current Trutherism is zesty, wait ’til you see what it looks like after that.


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My reply was to the guy who said when a company doesn’t or says that they wont assist him he just walks away. I was making a statement on how people walk away from that type of business all the time and then either tell friends or leave reviews about their bad experience. So you’re endorsing assumptions now? No surprise there…

Politricks on April 3, 2015 at 11:12 PM

You said “every company experiences feedback.” The company we are talking about is the pizza place, and you mentioned rotten tomatoes and yelp and Google. You were clearly not talking in generalities. That was a logical conclusion, not an assumption. You certainly do endorse the idea of fake feedback, as long as the business owner is a Christian “anti-gay bigot” who “deserves” it.

You aren’t fooling anyone, not even yourself.

JannyMae on April 4, 2015 at 12:21 AM

Raised $300k on a gofundme I set up! Thanks Dumbass tea partiers Fellow patriots :) :) :)

wearyexclusive on April 4, 2015 at 12:35 AM

Blink and Jannay mae.

Go re read the original posters post who I quoted and replied too. You guys are making yourself look foolish. I can’t apolgize or defend statements I never made. Weirdos.

Politricks on April 4, 2015 at 12:36 AM

Who gets fired first, alix, alyssa, or jess.

Hope they all get shit-canned on Easter.

Christien on April 4, 2015 at 12:43 AM

Christien on April 4, 2015 at 12:43 AM

Jess Dooley should not only be fired, but arrested. S/he solicited the help of others to commit an act of arson on a private business.

Most would see that as a crime.

WhirledPeas on April 4, 2015 at 12:57 AM

Whirled,

Yep. Let her cool off in jail on Easter.

Christien on April 4, 2015 at 1:01 AM

Jess Dooley should not only be fired, but arrested. S/he solicited the help of others to commit an act of arson on a private business.

Most would see that as a crime.

WhirledPeas on April 4, 2015 at 12:57 AM

I’m thinking of remembering that name and giving it to one of our trolls, but that might be too obscure. :)

22044 on April 4, 2015 at 2:43 AM

Weirdos!!!

Politricks on April 4, 2015 at 12:36 AM

…projecting!

JugEarsButtHurt on April 4, 2015 at 2:50 AM

No of course not, I never said that. The reporter asked an obvious set up question hoping to create controversy that would put her in the spotlight and help her career. The pizza store owner just took advantage of the opportunity. It was a meeting of two opportunists.

bayam on April 3, 2015 at 11:29 PM

” Put her in the spotlight and help her career “?

you are that dumb

Mr Soames on April 4, 2015 at 3:17 AM

Hot New Liberal Theory: We are so predictable you can play us like a fine Stradivarius and we will weep for being such idiots.

Thank you, Leftists!

You are almost into the stages of grief cycle.

Please don’t realize how truly asinine you are as we need your nihilist, winner-take-all approach to implode and take you all with it…and you are almost there! Just a little bit longer and they you will be asking yourself: what happened?

And then the laughter AT YOU shall truly commence.

ajacksonian on April 4, 2015 at 5:36 AM

Note to America,

Send money to Ted Cruz, back up your talk.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 4, 2015 at 5:44 AM

Anyone capable of intentionally creating that large a media kerfuffle can now start a career with any international marketing company of their choice. Simply absurd.

RutRoh on April 4, 2015 at 5:51 AM

Please stop grouping gays together as if we all act, vote, and bellyache as a collective hive-mind.
 
JetBoy on April 3, 2015 at 2:19 PM

 
Out of curiosity, how long, if ever, would you say it usually takes you to come out of the closet with gay friends?
 
rogerb on April 3, 2015 at 2:33 PM

 
Never saw this answered, JetBoy.
 
It’s not a gotcha. I’m genuinely interested in how long, if ever, it takes before you feel comfortable acknowledging to gay friends/acquaintances that you’re with The Right on 95% of the issues…
 
I’m betting it’s very much a collective hive-mind situation and difficult/impossible to admit you’re attracted to the wrong people.
 
rogerb on April 3, 2015 at 9:18 PM

 
I don’t know. Out of my close circle of friends I’m the only one into politics so it never comes up. As a rule I dont discuss politics at all with associates or clients. I’m not gay so my friends dont really have any issues to circle our wagons around so that may be different but I certainly dont think its out of the norm to not really talk about politics with people you work with, go to the gym with, have a drink with, etc.
 
Politricks on April 3, 2015 at 11:23 PM

 
So no one (but especially you) misunderstands, you posted a response to a question inquiring about difficulties and how someone personally handles being “the other” in order to state that you, as *the informed one* of your group, don’t discuss politics with your even-lower-info voter friends who work almost entirely off of an American Idol and laughably predictable “collective hive-mind” approach to politics.
 
Your tendency to be impressed by Tlaloc’s mad debate skillz makes more and more sense. Regardless, I’m not sure why you felt a need to help reiterate my point, but okay. Thanks.
 
Now where were we?
 
 

 
 
Yes, precisely Politricks. Exactly right.
 
You are perceived as X. You are expected to Y.
 
And you do. You cultivate your X, and you advertise that you Y.
 
Associates, clients, people you work with, go to the gym with, have a drink with, etc. acknowledge that you are one of them (or one of “them”) and and that you are exactly the same as millions of other X’s.
 
Those millions of other X’s are also exactly the same as you, and each of you expects one another to Y on 95% of the issues.
 
And you do.
 
It’s what makes you a group.
 
You are why stereotypes exist.
 
You have no closet to come out of.
 
The end.

rogerb on April 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM

Do these outraged protesters have a day job? That’s the problem, isn’t it? Contact that ditz over at the State department, she’ll tell you.

steveracer on April 4, 2015 at 7:40 AM

The total is over $800,000 which makes this story pretty amazing…

Khun Joe on April 4, 2015 at 7:48 AM

I’m not gay so my friends dont really have any issues to circle our wagons around so that may be different…
 
Politricks on April 3, 2015 at 11:23 PM

 
Your tendency to be impressed by Tlaloc’s mad debate skillz makes more and more sense…
 
rogerb on April 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM

 
Politricks, this may help:
 
Imagine you had a politically informed/aware friend (yes, I know, but just go with it) who appeared to be into all the same pictures of naked women, videos of men hitting women, interesting shoes, and whatever “sipping on gin and juice” type drink you, too, enjoy and that the collective demands its members consume in order to be recognized as part of “The Group” these days.
 
Now:
 
How easy would it be for that otherwise “normal” guy to come out as a conservative (or, for that matter, a homosexual) to your “The Group”?
 
Get the point yet?

rogerb on April 4, 2015 at 9:15 AM

Get the point yet?

rogerb on April 4, 2015 at 9:15 AM

.
Ouch !
.
I must of accidently been in the line-of-fire, ’cause I sure felt “the point.”

listens2glenn on April 4, 2015 at 9:45 AM

rogerb on April 4, 2015 at 9:15 AM

You’re good.

Cindy Munford on April 4, 2015 at 10:11 AM

The reporter asked an obvious set up question hoping to create controversy that would put her in the spotlight and help her career. The pizza store owner just took advantage of the opportunity. It was a meeting of two opportunists.

bayam on April 3, 2015 at 11:29 PM

So, you think the pizza shop owner analyzed the situation on the fly, realized that she’d get rich by being a victim of a mob, and lied to the reporter? …

blink on April 3, 2015 at 11:32 PM

Call it Bayam’s Corollary to the Conspiracy Theory. Small town (under 3000, people!) business owner, a Christian (her church can vouch for her), desperate to save her business, does a quick on-the-spot mental calculation that a roving, Michiana regional tv news reportette can get her national news coverage, an outrageous over-the-top leftist response, and a big fat GoFundMe endowment as a result, if she opportunistically announces her religious convictions on camera. Wow. That’s a pretty good guess!

Or, alternatively:

So, you think the left has been duped by her? You think she’s pro-gay marriage, but was just looking for a way to get out of her business?

blink on April 3, 2015 at 11:32 PM

Call it Bayam’s Second Corollary. Christians will either knowingly and opportunistically manipulate the media by revealing their in order to bring murder and arson threats down upon them so that they can salvage their business or personal finances; or Christians will lie, not believing a word of the “conviction” they reveal to the media. Either way, Christians are money-grubbing fakes.

But the one thing Bayam will never hypothesize is that a small town Christian businesswoman, without a lot of media or political sophistication, simply answered a hypothetical question about her religious convictions honestly.

Sometimes it’s hard to separate leftist cynicism from leftist stupidity. Or maybe it’s all the same.

de rigueur on April 4, 2015 at 11:46 AM

de rigueur on April 4, 2015 at 11:46 AM

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The same . . . . . hands down.

listens2glenn on April 4, 2015 at 11:55 AM

lets be honest, if this were 1942 and Germany the tolerant left would be shoving people onto cattle cars.

Pegcity on April 4, 2015 at 12:06 PM

Whirled,

Yep. Let her cool off in jail on Easter.

Christien on April 4, 2015 at 1:01 AM

Heh. I just read a news report that she’s been suspended without pay while the school completes their investigation.

Plus, law enforcement authorities have been made aware and are investigating her threat.

WhirledPeas on April 4, 2015 at 1:04 PM

“We are opposed to intolerance and anyone who disagrees with us” — leftist thugs, over and over

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2015 at 1:05 PM

Read every one, you leftist tyrannical thugs. It depicts you to perfection.

Hopefully you’ll be made to kneel, first.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2015 at 1:07 PM

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2015 at 1:07 PM

Funny how the libtards are so intolerant of anyone that is so intolerant as to not want to attend a gay wedding.
So Apple and other lefty companies are boycotting Indiana, but happily doing business with muslim countries where just being gay is illegal and subject to the death penalty.
So since the libtards don’t seem to have a problem with the muslims who murder gays on a regular basis, maybe they’d be ok with conservatives over here if we started doing the same thing.
Just a thought…..

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2015 at 1:34 PM

Just a thought…..

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2015 at 1:34 PM

They are always just emotional, not rational.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2015 at 1:45 PM

you fascist drama queens.

Dolce Far Niente on April 4, 2015 at 1:37 PM

Perfect!!

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2015 at 1:50 PM

Here’s what’s so tragic.

This week, the death of the 147 students in Kenya was the News.

Yet, every single azzhole on TV and in print “obama deal”.

I truly hope that you all will be made to kneel, fist.

Yes, and IN in the news too, as if that was the end of the world.

All of you who found that important, kneel, first, too.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2015 at 2:13 PM

Heh. I just read a news report that she’s been suspended without pay while the school completes their investigation.

Plus, law enforcement authorities have been made aware and are investigating her threat.

WhirledPeas on April 4, 2015 at 1:04 PM

Good. She will be fired. At least.

That’s a good summary of bayam’s stupidity. I think he realized how idiotic his comments were. But I really like the theory that the owner is pro-gay marriage and just pretended to be against it in order to get rich.

blink on April 4, 2015 at 1:52 PM

You probably give him too much credit, but the theory is fun to speculate on. :)

22044 on April 4, 2015 at 5:38 PM

Universities should now be required to accept anyone who wants to speak at the school. Public speakers should have to accept any request to speak at a school, wedding, graduation, etc. After all, they are engaging aanin providing a service to the public. Or, will the left get to decide what public service is mandated to all and ones aren’t.

Can Ayaan Hirsi Ali sue Brandeis university? She could always say that she felt less of a woman after they cancelled her engagement.

Does anybody really believe that these activist gays want their weddings done by people who think their lifestyle is a sin?

It is all about the power to make someone do something against their will. The LGBT army knows that they have that power, now that they have joined the ranks of special and protected citizens.

The media too has the power to destroy and they are using it. Making up stories and getting people worked up over distortions and lies. The media releases the spam story and the activists and millenials take to twitterverse to attack the media’s target.

Ibanez Lotus on April 4, 2015 at 6:09 PM

It is all about the power to make someone do something against their will.

Ibanez Lotus on April 4, 2015 at 6:09 PM

Exactly. None of them believe in rights in the first place, not as something that exists without government support.

They’re slavers, that’s all they are… only without the true slaver’s basic openness of purpose.

GrumpyOldFart on April 4, 2015 at 6:57 PM

Hey look

Raised $300k on a gofundme I set up! Thanks Dumbass tea partiers Fellow patriots :) :) :)

wearyexclusive on April 4, 2015 at 12:35 AM

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2015 at 11:18 PM

For the above comment

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2015 at 11:26 PM

Intolerance from the leftist thugs

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2015 at 11:31 PM

Bob Hope, touring the world in the year or so after the passage of the 1975 Consenting Adult Sex Bill:

“I’ve just flown in from California, where they’ve made homosexuality legal. I thought I’d get out before they make it compulsory.”

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2015 at 12:24 AM

For Hope, this was an oddly profound gag, discerning even at the dawn of the Age of Tolerance that there was something inherently coercive about the enterprise. Soon it would be insufficient merely to be “tolerant” — warily accepting, blithely indifferent, mildly amused, tepidly supportive, according to taste. The forces of “tolerance” would become intolerant of anything less than full-blown celebratory approval.


Compulsory
s/b the needed word.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2015 at 12:27 AM

If you cant provide a fact based argument I’ve been involved in then an apology would be the appropriate response.
 
Politricks on April 3, 2015 at 11:38 PM

 
This is funny. I know that you’d simply stop commenting on this thread if I were to provide an example. It’s what you always do. I’m actually laughing at you asking for an apology.
 
blink on April 3, 2015 at 11:45 PM

 
Gosh, I hope Politricks is okay. It’s so unlike him to abruptly abandon a thread like this.

rogerb on April 5, 2015 at 6:24 PM

Let’s step back again. Everyone in the state knew that RFRA was controversial and offensive to many of their neighbors.

bayam on April 3, 2015 at 10:50 PM

This is patently untrue. Given that the federal government and at least 19 other states have virtually identical statutes already in place, it is ridiculous for you to presume that “everyone” in any context, would recognize it as controversial or offensive. Mostly because it isn’t. It can only offend someone who plans on being offended, by others having liberty to choose how their business participates (or not) in events.

This woman does not appear to be one who is particularly involved in media. And then she gets ambush-interviewed with a gotcha question. The interviewers had been hoping for someone to make the statements she made in support of the statute, to then initiate the pitchforks and torches brigade in opposition to her “discrimination”.

The RFRA holds just as much water in regards a business owner choosing not to provide material or services in support of an animal sacrifice ritual performed by satanists. The point isn’t in permitting discrimination, but in making sure that the government doesn’t try to take a hand in preventing the conscience-based discrimination which is everyone’s right.

Get over it.

Freelancer on April 5, 2015 at 8:02 PM

Bob Hope, touring the world in the year or so after the passage of the 1975 Consenting Adult Sex Bill:

“I’ve just flown in from California, where they’ve made homosexuality legal. I thought I’d get out before they make it compulsory.”

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2015 at 12:24 AM

Now that is funny. Too bad most of the comedians these days are Leftists.

Eastwood Ravine on April 6, 2015 at 1:06 AM

The need for approval by gays is hard to understand. Deep-down, they know their psychological end-game, the lost cause that it is, but in the mean-time they need to raise their spirits and self-esteem by claiming to be victimized by innocent third parties. Gay “pride” isn’t pride at all – it’s “tell me it’s OK”, when most people, including they themselves, know that it isn’t.

Not a matter of scripture or the Constitution, but human psychology. Some gays will have a great life (those are the Hollywood show-cases) but no responsible parent would wish this on any child of theirs. Sorry, if that offends, but there’s a lot of offense being claimed, especially by gays. This time, they are sticking it to the Christians … like there are no gay christians? They don’t seem to be able to think things through, do they?

This public gay mania is very sad, because it is ruining the lives of impressionable young people, in improbable numbers. Many of them correct their course as they age, but others flounder on the edge of society without ever realizing the cause of their unhappiness – and it’s not Christian pizza makers!

virgo on April 6, 2015 at 1:07 PM

As of 7:00 AM on April 7, it stands at $842,442.

Patriot Vet on April 7, 2015 at 7:01 AM

For the above comment

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2015 at 11:26 PM

You don’t seriously think you are going to fool, persuade or dissuade liberals with facts, do you? They have an agenda. They simply aren’t having facts get in the way.

ghostwalker1 on April 7, 2015 at 10:44 AM

Yay, Politricks is back!

rogerb on April 7, 2015 at 8:18 PM

http://www.gofundme.com/Jdoyleiv

In case anybody hadn’t noticed, the counter-campaign vanished after after about 36 hours, and as far as I can tell, it never got more than the one $20 donation. It was set up for a week, with a goal of $500,000.

The special snowflake who created it included a page-long screed about how the intellectually superior would certainly beat out the backwards bigots who supported Memories Pizza, and would help him pay for school, and for his medications, and the rest would go for hormone treatments for friends who were trying to “become their real selves”.

Now, understand that gofundme campaigns don’t disappear when they end. The Memories Pizza campaign is still visible on the page, with its $842,442 from 29,161 contributors.

They didn’t learn from the Chik-Fil-A attack, so they came back for another lesson.

Freelancer on April 8, 2015 at 11:43 AM

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