Bergdahl: I left my base in order to, uh, walk to another base and report wrongdoing

posted at 3:21 pm on March 27, 2015 by Allahpundit

Nope.

Bergdahl was planning to report what he believed to be problems with “order and discipline” in his unit, a senior Defense official tells CNN. A second official says Bergdahl had “concerns about leadership issues at his base.”…

Both officials declined to be identified because of the legal proceedings against Berghahl, but both have direct knowledge of the information outlined in the report. “This was a kid who had leadership concerns on his mind,” the second official said. “He wasn’t fed up, he wasn’t planning to desert.”…

Both officials said Bergdahl believed he could make it to the next base by relying on wilderness skills he learned growing up in rural Idaho, even though the area was full of insurgents. It was not immediately clear how far the nearest base was during that timeframe in July 2009.

Supposedly he thought he couldn’t trust his own commanders to address his “leadership concerns” and hoped that officers at the next base over, wherever that might be, would be more sympathetic to … a guy who had just gone AWOL in the dead of night. What’s the problem with that theory? Let’s ask one of the men who served with Bergdahl:

Right. According to the Army’s report on Bergdahl’s disappearance, written two months after he went missing, all he took with him were knives, a compass, and water. He left his armor and weapon behind. There’s no obvious reason why a soldier intent on making it to another base through hostile territory would leave himself defenseless. That’s the sort of thing you’d do if you were preparing to give yourself up to the enemy, not confront him if need be en route to making it back to your own lines. The “headed to another base” theory doesn’t jibe either with Michael Hastings’s account in 2012 of Bergdahl’s last few weeks before deserting. His last e-mail to his parents before disappearing did contain some grumbling about leadership in his unit (CNN reported on minor disciplinary problems last year), but it went much farther than that:

The e-mail went on to list a series of complaints: Three good sergeants, Bowe said, had been forced to move to another company, and “one of the biggest shit bags is being put in charge of the team.” His battalion commander was a “conceited old fool.” The military system itself was broken: “In the US army you are cut down for being honest… but if you are a conceited brown nosing shit bag you will be allowed to do what ever you want, and you will be handed your higher rank… The system is wrong. I am ashamed to be an american. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools.” The soldiers he actually admired were planning on leaving: “The US army is the biggest joke the world has to laugh at. It is the army of liars, backstabbers, fools, and bullies. The few good SGTs are getting out as soon as they can, and they are telling us privates to do the same.”…

Bowe concluded his e-mail with what, in another context, might read as a suicide note. “I am sorry for everything,” he wrote. “The horror that is america is disgusting.” Then he signed off with a final message to his mother and father. “There are a few more boxes coming to you guys,” he said, referring to his uniform and books, which he had already packed up and shipped off. “Feel free to open them, and use them.”

A guy who thought America is “disgusting” and its army an “army of liars, backstabbers, fools, and bullies” rationally had no reason to believe he’d get a fairer shake from troops at another base. And he would have had no cause to send his possessions home if he was simply traveling from one outpost to another. Nothing here adds up. If Bergdahl’s desperate for an “innocent” explanation for his disappearance, he should have simply said that he suffered some sort of mental episode under stress. There’s evidence that he’d walked away from his base before; his father told Hastings that he thought Bergdahl’s mood had soured before he went missing after a soldier he knew was killed in combat. He’d been given a psychological discharge from the Coast Guard in 2006 as well. Why not say “I snapped and did something stupid” in lieu of this dopey “sneaking away to another base” theory? It says a lot about the credibility of the latter that the Army charged him with desertion anyway after hearing his story, knowing how invested the White House is in seeing Bergdahl cleared.

I assume he chose the defense he chose because it gives him more political traction than a simple insanity defense would. If he says “I snapped,” the retort will be that that’s no excuse to desert. Most soldiers cope with severe mental strain and many, I’m sure, have complaints about various officers up the chain of command, and only rarely do any of them decide to choose their own adventure outside the wire. Also, none of the men from his unit who’ve accused him of desertion have said anything about obvious signs of insanity from Bergdahl before he left. How would he prove that he snapped when there’d be a dozen witnesses claiming they saw no evidence of it at the time? Claiming instead that he was headed to another base to report wrongdoing makes it seem like the Pentagon’s coming after him now to punish him for trying to speak out, which may swing anti-war activists and civil libertarians over to his side. It won’t spare him from a sentence but maybe political pressure will keep that sentence lighter than it otherwise would have been. The Army’s not really going to send a misguided but well meaning “whistleblower” away to prison for life, are they?

Exit question from Aaron MacLean: Why are senior defense officials leaking Bergdahl’s self-serving story to CNN? Is there any explanation apart from them wanting to cover Obama’s ass by making the subject of his disastrous prisoner swap look as good as they can?


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His excuse is baseless.

Flange on March 27, 2015 at 3:25 PM

And now the deserter is smearing his fellow platoonmates. Scum bag get scum bagggier.

rbj on March 27, 2015 at 3:25 PM

Execution: Firing Squad.

bernzright777 on March 27, 2015 at 3:25 PM

Comrade Dear Leader never thought it would get this far….

d1carter on March 27, 2015 at 3:26 PM

Execution: Firing Squad.

bernzright777 on March 27, 2015 at 3:25 PM

Obama should have to stand trial WITH him on the charge of Treason.

ConstantineXI on March 27, 2015 at 3:27 PM

What a pant load. His lawyer is desperate. If he left his base to go to another why wouldn’t he have taken his weapon? Look for a plea deal to get him at worst a BCD.

major dad on March 27, 2015 at 3:28 PM

It would surprise no one were 0b00ba to order the army to commit resources to investigate this angle.

Akzed on March 27, 2015 at 3:28 PM

Why are senior defense officials leaking Bergdahl’s self-serving story to CNN?

By far the most disturbing part of this.

emz35 on March 27, 2015 at 3:28 PM

“Honor and distinction” in Obamaspeak means “treason and treachery”.

profitsbeard on March 27, 2015 at 3:29 PM

Bergdahl: I left my base in order to, uh, walk to another base and report wrongdoing

This guy could be the state dept spokesman or white house press secretary!

cajunpatriot on March 27, 2015 at 3:29 PM

The dog ate my homework.

vnvet on March 27, 2015 at 3:30 PM

Bergdahl: I left my base in order to, uh, walk to another base and report wrongdoing … but instead, I decided to join the Taliban, convert to islam, and spend the next few years teaching bomb-building techniques to my captors comrades …

Pork-Chop on March 27, 2015 at 3:30 PM

Yeah well I didn’t think it made sense that Casey Anthony was out partying for 30 days while her daughter was missing either but hey… I guess it’s not what you know but what you can prove…

Politricks on March 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM

Exit question from Aaron MacLean: Why are senior defense officials leaking Bergdahl’s self-serving story to CNN? Is there any explanation apart from them wanting to cover Obama’s ass by making the subject of his disastrous prisoner swap look as good as they can?

It isn’t about covering Barry for the decision to make the trade. It is to provide the smoke to keep eyes off the real debacle of the nuke giveaway. Bread and circus. Nothing more.

All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.-Adolf you know who

Limerick on March 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM

And now the deserter is smearing his fellow platoonmates. Scum bag get scum bagggier. rbj on March 27, 2015 at 3:25 PM

I saw that Harf girl at state casting aspersion on these guys last night.

Think about it: if 0b00ba wants to save face he must at least blow some smoke to make his moron partisans consider that it might be true.

Akzed on March 27, 2015 at 3:32 PM

I think lying to investigators is also a breach of discipline and chargeable.

So is leaking confidential information to the press, if these sources are serving military and not Obama’s DoD tools.

novaculus on March 27, 2015 at 3:33 PM

Exit question from Aaron MacLean: Why are senior defense officials leaking Bergdahl’s self-serving story to CNN? Is there any explanation apart from them wanting to cover Obama’s ass by making the subject of his disastrous prisoner swap look as good as they can?

Schadenfreude on March 27, 2015 at 3:35 PM

Why is he even bothering to lie? The traitor must know there’s an Obama-pardon in his future.

WhirledPeas on March 27, 2015 at 3:35 PM

This story is so preposterous it goes to prove once again the utter contempt Obama and his tools have for people’s intelligence. They apparently think we’re all as dumb as the average Obamaphone recipient.

novaculus on March 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM

Why cover his butt

cmsinaz on March 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM

This is exactly what we are going to see more and more of – all these special snowflakes that can’t handle any kind of difficulty folding up and giving up.

Get used to this.

kim roy on March 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM

He left because of the chow.He was looking for better MRE’s.

docflash on March 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM

Announcement at Leavenworth “he’s on his way”.

Schadenfreude on March 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM

Sounds like an anti American POS who was raised by POS parents.

No wonder his platoon/troop mates despise this coward. Imagine sharing a detail or base with this cryass, who hated the very thing he was – and America on top of it.

Oh – and he got good, honorable people killed who did their duty and searched for him.

35 years in Leavenworth.

Odie1941 on March 27, 2015 at 3:37 PM

Typical “military reformer” crap that critics have been hawking for decades. This is a long read, and mostly restricted to the Air Force, but it establishes the pattern:
http://etd.auburn.edu/handle/10415/595

Count to 10 on March 27, 2015 at 3:37 PM

But but….but Obama and Ms Susan said he served w/honor and distinction. Or maybe she just said Berghdal stinks.

Herb on March 27, 2015 at 3:37 PM

Hey, I can relate. I’m starting to have “leadership concerns” these days as well.

SacredFire on March 27, 2015 at 3:38 PM

Why are senior defense officials leaking Bergdahl’s self-serving story to CNN?

By far the most disturbing part of this.

emz35 on March 27, 2015 at 3:28 PM

Clearly it is something that the president either already believes:

The military system itself was broken: “In the US army you are cut down for being honest… but if you are a conceited brown nosing shit bag you will be allowed to do what ever you want, and you will be handed your higher rank… The system is wrong. I am ashamed to be an american. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools.”

or wants to believe. Somebody is just kissing presidential a$$ leaking this. Or is it journolist in action again?

parke on March 27, 2015 at 3:38 PM

He left because of the chow.He was looking for better MRE’s.

docflash on March 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM

MRE’s are pretty good actually. Ever tried one?

ConstantineXI on March 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM

AP, thank you for not calling him “sergeant”.

The creep had sent all his belongings home and he was seeking out the Taliban.

Schadenfreude on March 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM

Yeah, go with that. That defense’ll fly.

FNH57 on March 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM

What a load. Whom I am to believe? A defector and some unnamed officials trying to clean up Obama’s mess or the soldiers who were actually present? CNN and the rest of the media apologists will eat up this crap and swear by it.

polly2150 on March 27, 2015 at 3:41 PM

Uh… I was going for a walk… to give candy bars to starving Muslim children… and deliver Korans to a nearby mosque whose own copies had been burned by American Islamophobes… and then plant flowers on the graves of civilians slaughtered by airstrikes that John Kerry himself condemned… and then open a field clinic for victims of rickets…”

profitsbeard on March 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM

Six soldiers are dead looking for you.

John the Libertarian on March 27, 2015 at 3:43 PM

EVERY soldier believes that just about all officers are out for themselves (‘punching their ticket’) and sergeants come and go, some excellent, others not so much. It’s the nature of the military. Bergdoll was a psycho, sensitive butterfly raised by clueless parents. He glamorized and defined the Service as meeting his own demented definition/needs. Reality reared its head and he failed the test.

vnvet on March 27, 2015 at 3:44 PM

Report wrongdoing? So his defense strategery is to throw his fellow soldiers under the bus? Good luck finding any character witnesses.

Doughboy on March 27, 2015 at 3:44 PM

Is there any explanation apart from them wanting to cover Obama’s ass by making the subject of his disastrous prisoner swap look as good as they can?
Schadenfreude on March 27, 2015 at 3:35 PM

That was my first thought. And second, and third…

parke on March 27, 2015 at 3:44 PM

Who the heck are these “senior defense officials?!
His lawyers?!

Dexter_Alarius on March 27, 2015 at 3:45 PM

OT – Townhall switched to facebook comments. I think that’s an improvement. (Don’t bring that to Hot Gas, though.)

22044 on March 27, 2015 at 3:45 PM

If senior Defense officials are leaking this, doesn’t this constitute command interference in the judicial process? Could be they are trying to mess this up so badly that a mild plea agreement and the disappearance of the case from the news become the best the military can hope for. I hope the command sticks with it and does a good-faith military justice code process.

tarheelkate on March 27, 2015 at 3:48 PM

Oh oh….Wild Hog!!…..wait for it……

elvis lives on March 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM

OT – Townhall switched to facebook comments. I think that’s an improvement. (Don’t bring that to Hot Gas, though.) 22044 on March 27, 2015 at 3:45 PM

I don’t do FB. I’d miss HA if they went to that.

Akzed on March 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM

Does that explain him crawling thru the bushes while tearing his uniform off???

elvis lives on March 27, 2015 at 3:51 PM

‘Senior defense official’ = person sitting at a desk in the WWI graves registration office.

Limerick on March 27, 2015 at 3:52 PM

Is there any explanation apart from them wanting to cover Obama’s ass by making the subject of his disastrous prisoner swap look as good as they can?
Schadenfreude on March 27, 2015 at 3:35 PM

You can spray cologne to try to cover the smell of shit, but you’re left with a scent of cologne and shit.

Teach me how to Bucky on March 27, 2015 at 3:53 PM

OT – Townhall switched to facebook comments. I think that’s an improvement. (Don’t bring that to Hot Gas, though.) 22044 on March 27, 2015 at 3:45 PM

I don’t do FB. I’d miss HA if they went to that.

Akzed on March 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM

That’s why I stopped posting at Power Line a few years back-they changed their posting format to only allow Facebook posts for comments. I do Facebook but I do not post political content on my FB page. And whenever one of my silly Leftist friends tries to post something political on my FB timeline, I immediately delete it.

Del Dolemonte on March 27, 2015 at 3:55 PM

(Don’t bring that to Hot Gas, though.) 22044 on March 27, 2015 at 3:45 PM

Bye now

Schadenfreude on March 27, 2015 at 3:57 PM

Bergdahl: I left my base in order to, uh, walk to another base and report wrongdoing

He simply forgot to mention that it was a Taliban base he was walking to.

JetBoy on March 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 27, 2015 at 3:55 PM

What’s the point? Why would they mandate participation in FB?

Akzed on March 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM

So this jerk of a private was on a one-man crusade to reform the U.S. Army from the bottom? Nobody drafted him, or forced him into the Army–he would do much less harm picking potatoes in Idaho.

On the other hand, if Bergdahl was really looking for liars and bullies, he found plenty of them in the Taliban.

Steve Z on March 27, 2015 at 4:01 PM

OT – Townhall switched to facebook comments. I think that’s an improvement. (Don’t bring that to Hot Gas, though.)

22044 on March 27, 2015 at 3:45 PM

I think they tried Facebook comments very briefly a couple years ago and it was a disaster. Personally I hope they never switch over to that since Facebook is blocked at my job.

Doughboy on March 27, 2015 at 4:01 PM

Exit question from Aaron MacLean: Why are senior defense officials leaking Bergdahl’s self-serving story to CNN? Is there any explanation apart from them wanting to cover Obama’s ass by making the subject of his disastrous prisoner swap look as good as they can?

Because…

“In the US army Obama administration you are cut down for being honest… but if you are a conceited brown nosing shit bag you will be allowed to do what ever you want, and you will be handed your higher rank…

Even treasonous bastards can be right once and awhile, granted not in the way Bergdahl or Obama planned it to be spun.

William Eaton on March 27, 2015 at 4:01 PM

I guess it’s not what you know but what you can prove…

Politricks on March 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM

Now you gone and done it…

The Schaef on March 27, 2015 at 4:02 PM

As I remember, the locals reported that there was a lone American soldier walking around asking where he could find the Taliban. That doesn’t sound like he was looking for a base.

RBMN on March 27, 2015 at 4:02 PM

This isn’t about Bergdahl; the excuse is too irrational to get any traction at his court martial even if his lawyer actually tries to fly it.

This is strictly for ObamaVoter consumption. This is a leak from some Obama operatives who are one of any number of sub-secretaries to the assistant secretary of something or other in the Administration with “Defense” in its title.

Its meaningless in terms of military justice, unless the court has been instructed to rubber-stamp this for the Administration.

Dolce Far Niente on March 27, 2015 at 4:03 PM

MRE’s are pretty good actually. Ever tried one?

ConstantineXI on March 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM

I tried my first MRE in the 80’s.Up until then we were eating C-Rats.

docflash on March 27, 2015 at 4:03 PM

I have a good defense for Bergdahl…

“I did what I thought would make Obama happy….I was following orders!”

:)

William Eaton on March 27, 2015 at 4:05 PM

we were eating C-Rats.

docflash on March 27, 2015 at 4:03 PM

The so called ‘cheese’ tins were the best. Toss them in the fire and boom you had scalding hot cheese flying everywhere. Not that I did that, of course.

Limerick on March 27, 2015 at 4:06 PM

Sure. That’s why he left his weapon at the base and walked right into enemy hands after seeking them out.

Screw off mohammed bergdahl. We got your treasonous number already.

Andy__B on March 27, 2015 at 4:08 PM

OT – Townhall switched to facebook comments. I think that’s an improvement. (Don’t bring that to Hot Gas, though.)

22044 on March 27, 2015 at 3:45 PM

Townhall has had a a “hands off” approach to HotAir…leaving AP, Ed, et al basically run this site as it’s basically been done all along. They don’t dictate content or opinion, or have instituted any major changes to this blog from the day they purchased it from MM. At least that’s been my understanding.

JetBoy on March 27, 2015 at 4:09 PM

MRE’s are pretty good actually. Ever tried one?

ConstantineXI on March 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM

lived on them from 86 to 89.
great way to bung yourself up and not crap for days then drop 1 log on day 3.

dmacleo on March 27, 2015 at 4:16 PM

The so called ‘cheese’ tins were the best. Toss them in the fire and boom you had scalding hot cheese flying everywhere. Not that I did that, of course.

Limerick on March 27, 2015 at 4:06 PM

mre non-dairy creamer does similar. get colored flames.

dmacleo on March 27, 2015 at 4:17 PM

I think they tried Facebook comments very briefly a couple years ago and it was a disaster. Personally I hope they never switch over to that since Facebook is blocked at my job.

Doughboy on March 27, 2015 at 4:01 PM

Very true…I eventually added a couple of the spammers there to my block list because I got sick of looking at them! I’m glad that they stopped that.

22044 on March 27, 2015 at 4:20 PM

Anytime I see unnamed “senior defense officials” my brain automatically assumes the E4 Mafia is stirring up stuff again.

Sgt Steve on March 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM

It won’t spare him from a sentence but maybe political pressure will keep that sentence lighter than it otherwise would have been.

The lie itself ought to add another 50 years to his sentence.

leftamark on March 27, 2015 at 4:26 PM

OT – Townhall switched to facebook comments. I think that’s an improvement. (Don’t bring that to Hot Gas, though.)

22044 on March 27, 2015 at 3:45 PM

They tried it here before the 2012 election. Complete disaster. Comments from Obamabots were the first thing anyone saw.

John the Libertarian on March 27, 2015 at 4:27 PM

“I was coming back” is the classic defense to turn desertion into AWOL. It’s classic because it works (although in this case, maybe not).

It may very well come down to what kind of command influence is exerted on the board.

PersonFromPorlock on March 27, 2015 at 4:40 PM

I don’t do FB. I’d miss HA if they went to that.
Akzed on March 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM

Ditto

Neitherleftorright on March 27, 2015 at 4:47 PM

That’s why I stopped posting at Power Line a few years back-they changed their posting format to only allow Facebook posts for comments. I do Facebook but I do not post political content on my FB page. And whenever one of my silly Leftist friends tries to post something political on my FB timeline, I immediately delete it.

Del Dolemonte on March 27, 2015 at 3:55 PM

I don’t understand why so many people who do want to make political comments don’t create a second Facebook account for that purpose…oh, the problems they could avoid for themselves! :)

Anti-ControI on March 27, 2015 at 4:58 PM

I wonder what wonder boy Bergdahl’s excuses were like in HS?

I did my homework but, then I folded into a paper airplane. I sent the plane flying over the pond and a Soviet submarine came up onto the surface and intercepted my paper airplane and took it to Cuba… that is why I don’t have my homework, but I did it… really!

Neitherleftorright on March 27, 2015 at 4:58 PM

I don’t understand why so many people who do want to make political comments don’t create a second Facebook account for that purpose…oh, the problems they could avoid for themselves! :)

Anti-ControI on March 27, 2015 at 4:58 PM

because if FB finds out they ban both accounts and email associated with it.
its a real PITA if site owner wants to integrate FB login api as there is no way to keep a personal acct separate from website.

dmacleo on March 27, 2015 at 5:11 PM

because if FB finds out they ban both accounts and email associated with it.
its a real PITA if site owner wants to integrate FB login api as there is no way to keep a personal acct separate from website.

dmacleo on March 27, 2015 at 5:11 PM

I presume FB don’t identify accounts via IP address at all, so using different cookies/browser profiles, which is easily achieved by add-ons such as this and this, should make it easy enough to implement the idea I would think…

Anti-ControI on March 27, 2015 at 5:20 PM

“I was coming back” is the classic defense to turn desertion into AWOL. It’s classic because it works

Perhaps, but not for the Misbehavior charge which is the more serious of the two.

F X Muldoon on March 27, 2015 at 5:21 PM

MRE’s are pretty good actually. Ever tried one?

ConstantineXI on March 27, 2015 at 3:39 PM

I tried my first MRE in the 80′s.Up until then we were eating C-Rats.

docflash on March 27, 2015 at 4:03 PM

Both are far superior to the sawdust (cereal) bars we had in Air Force survival kits. We called them ‘K Rats’ but I found out recently that K Rats were from WWII.

James on March 27, 2015 at 5:22 PM

I presume FB don’t identify accounts via IP address at all, so using different cookies/browser profiles, which is easily achieved by add-ons such as this and this, should make it easy enough to implement the idea I would think…

Anti-ControI on March 27, 2015 at 5:20 PM

…for varying definitions of ‘easily.’

James on March 27, 2015 at 5:25 PM

…for varying definitions of ‘easily.’

James on March 27, 2015 at 5:25 PM

Sure, but I believe most computer novices and/or those who have little interest in learning anything beyond the basics would find Multifox too complicated, for example.

Anti-ControI on March 27, 2015 at 5:38 PM

Why are senior defense officials leaking Bergdahl’s self-serving story to CNN?

Because The Palace Princes of the Pentagon have a vested interest in covering Obama’s political ass.

GarandFan on March 27, 2015 at 6:12 PM

The deserter needs to read the UCMJ again.

mixplix on March 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM

I like to think Bergdahl was found by two insurgents on the top of some windswept hill in Afghanistan, belting out “Let it Go.”

The insurgents are staring, mouths agape. One slowly raises his rifle, but the other slaps it down. He hisses, “He crazy! Bad luck to kill crazy man. Take him to our leader instead.”

Marcola on March 27, 2015 at 6:55 PM

I’ve seen reports that Bergdahl left a note saying he was starting a new life.If such a note exists I’m sure it will be introduced at trial. Bergdahl’s platoon leaders also said there were reports after Bergdahl left of an American who was looking for the Taliban.It’s not like some random American just wandered into Afghanistan from Detroit. So this American could only have been Bergdahl. Was he going to report other soldiers to the Taliban? Bergdahl is a piece of trash who’s now tied to Obama. I suspect the Obama administration is leaking these stories in another effort to tarnish soldiers who actually did serve with honor. Truly disgusting.

Hera on March 27, 2015 at 6:55 PM

I’ve seen reports that Bergdahl left a note saying he was starting a new life.If such a note exists I’m sure it will be introduced at trial. Bergdahl’s platoon leaders also said there were reports after Bergdahl left of an American who was looking for the Taliban.It’s not like some random American just wandered into Afghanistan from Detroit. So this American could only have been Bergdahl. Was he going to report other soldiers to the Taliban? Bergdahl is a piece of trash who’s now tied to Obama. I suspect the Obama administration is leaking these stories in another effort to tarnish soldiers who actually did serve with honor. Truly disgusting.

Hera on March 27, 2015 at 6:55 PM

You are right both about the leaking and how disgusting it is…

Anti-ControI on March 27, 2015 at 7:00 PM

The fix is in. The Army charges him, but they make excuses for him. Then, they let him off with no punishment since he has suffered enough. Give him an honorable discharge and off he goes. Obama is happy.

Techster64 on March 27, 2015 at 7:18 PM

What’s this guy done that our own fearless leaders in Washington aren’t doing now and have been for years (aiding the enemy)?

Give the guy a dishonorable discharge and leave him alone.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 28, 2015 at 8:40 AM

Traitor. Hang him High.

Key West Reader on March 28, 2015 at 9:33 AM

Desperation. There will be consequences for being a traitor to civilization.

TerryW on March 28, 2015 at 2:21 PM

I would like to know who these folks are that are leaking this, since it comes under the heading of “Undue Command Influence”.

I presume FB don’t identify accounts via IP address at all

Anti-ControI on March 27, 2015 at 5:20 PM

I wouldn’t presume that.

I found out recently that K Rats were from WWII.

James on March 27, 2015 at 5:22 PM

Some of them in survival kits were from WW2 (or Korea).

GWB on March 28, 2015 at 2:25 PM

I robbed the liquer store down the street one night cause i heard someone say counterfeit bills were passed there and i wanted to give the police the heads up.

jaywemm on March 28, 2015 at 2:32 PM

I presume FB don’t identify accounts via IP address at all

Anti-ControI on March 27, 2015 at 5:20 PM

I wouldn’t presume that.

Why?

Are families with multiple computers which share the same IP address through a router only allowed one FB account in their households? lol

Do you know happen to know how much IP-checking FB does?

Anti-ControI on March 28, 2015 at 3:35 PM

This story is so preposterous it goes to prove once again the utter contempt Obama and his tools have for people’s intelligence. They apparently think we’re all as dumb as the average Obamaphone recipient.

novaculus on March 27, 2015 at 3:36 PM

Yeah well I didn’t think it made sense that Casey Anthony was out partying for 30 days while her daughter was missing either but hey… I guess it’s not what you know but what you can prove…

Politricks on March 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM

Heh.

bigGwillie on March 28, 2015 at 4:33 PM

I wouldn’t presume that.

GWB on March 28, 2015 at 2:25 PM

I spent less than 15 minutes Googling, and found plenty of people with multiple FB accounts on the same devices/IPs.

Unless you are blatantly violating their ToS with crap like spamming, they are not going to notice you at all…I wouldn’t be the least bit worried about setting up separate accounts for friends, business, and another for commenting.

Anti-ControI on March 28, 2015 at 4:33 PM

Oh oh….Wild Hog!!…..wait for it……

elvis lives on March 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM

My apologies that my defense of individual rights guaranteed under the Constitution offends you.

However, through counsel, we now have an admission that Bergdahl left his post willingly. Imagine what we will learn as this progresses to a court martial?

It’s entirely possible, that by the time it’s all over, we will know what happened beyond a reasonable doubt, and if any punishment that is deemed warranted, won’t be overturned by the Supreme Court.

Because it was not a trial of public opinion….

Hog Wild on March 28, 2015 at 5:05 PM

LIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

TX-96 on March 28, 2015 at 5:17 PM

Why?

Are families with multiple computers which share the same IP address through a router only allowed one FB account in their households? lol

Do you know happen to know how much IP-checking FB does?

Anti-ControI on March 28, 2015 at 3:35 PM

I spent less than 15 minutes Googling, and found plenty of people with multiple FB accounts on the same devices/IPs.

Unless you are blatantly violating their ToS with crap like spamming, they are not going to notice you at all…I wouldn’t be the least bit worried about setting up separate accounts for friends, business, and another for commenting.

Anti-ControI on March 28, 2015 at 4:33 PM

You’re a trusting soul for someone with that nick. All it takes is a complaint, and your account will be gone. I know of numerous people who built accounts for their online personalities who have had them shut down – along with any RL account they had. With a complaint, if you can’t prove that your account 1) isn’t a duplicate (against the rules) and 2) that it is a real person (against the rules), they will SHUT YOU DOWN.

BTW, if you want to set up an account for business, you have to have a regular account first. They won’t let you set up a “Joe’s Sammich Shop” page without having a “Joe Sammich Maker” account first. And that account better be legit.

Could you get away with it? Sure. For at least a while. But, if you’re counting on reasonableness from FB you’re living in the same fantasy world as Tlaloc, UE, corona, and the other unicorn believers.

GWB on March 28, 2015 at 7:06 PM

You’re a trusting soul for someone with that nick.

I have heard so many horror stories about the ‘dangers’ of doing things wrong on the Internet that have never affected me nor people I know who have taken proper precautions…pardon me for not buying others’ fears without hearing all of the pertinent details! lol

All it takes is a complaint, and your account will be gone. I know of numerous people who built accounts for their online personalities who have had them shut down – along with any RL account they had. With a complaint, if you can’t prove that your account 1) isn’t a duplicate (against the rules) and 2) that it is a real person (against the rules), they will SHUT YOU DOWN.

How many details can you provide about what FB did to link their violating accounts together? Did these people create accounts using the same email address? Log into them from the same browser & cookies? Leave it obvious that their accounts were not different people?

I read online about people getting their extra accounts shut down, but not all of them, and they recommended that people not worry about it unduly (and some of the people were spammers…) They said identification by their IP addresses had nothing to do with the accounts they lost, which does make sense, seeing that they didn’t lose all of their accounts.

BTW, if you want to set up an account for business, you have to have a regular account first. They won’t let you set up a “Joe’s Sammich Shop” page without having a “Joe Sammich Maker” account first. And that account better be legit.

Could you get away with it? Sure. For at least a while. But, if you’re counting on reasonableness from FB you’re living in the same fantasy world as Tlaloc, UE, corona, and the other unicorn believers.

GWB on March 28, 2015 at 7:06 PM

I wouldn’t count on reasonableness from FB, but I also don’t get excited just because someone else tells me I should. :D

Unless I see some evidence from you that FB banned all accounts at those same IP addresses, which would contradict what I’ve seen other FB users with banned accounts saying, I will say that worrying about having multiple FB accounts is a waste of time, if you know what you’re doing…

Anti-ControI on March 28, 2015 at 7:57 PM

FB won’t shut down an account just because it is accessed from the same IP as another FB account. The ISP serving my home provides only one IP to my cable modem. As many as 15 devices are accessing the internet at any given time, with my routers and HWFW doing all the NAT legwork, because I don’t trust my ISP’s security protocols, and depend upon my own. More than half a dozen FB accounts might be active at once, and as far as FB is concerned, all coming from the same IP. This arrangement has been true for some six years, without any issues at all. (Just for reference, conventional router NAT behavior sends the subnet IP of each device as metadata with each packet for simplicity’s sake, so it is easy for the ISP and others to determine how many different devices are sharing the same IP.)

Also, there is a PC here which is used primarily as a guest machine for folks visiting. Pretty much all of them have FB accounts. My ISP would probably see as many as two dozen different FB logins accessed through my IP just since the start of the year, all of them completely valid.

As for the “permanent” residents, several of the FB accounts in use are set up purely as aliases, with usernames and email addresses that would be very difficult to resolve to the people living at my home. The email addresses are real, however, and all FB has to do is send an email to any of the addresses, and they will get a response. According to a couple of these people, freedom of expression is much easier these days if your employer isn’t able to Google you and learn if you’ve been ‘bad’ or ‘good’.

Freelancer on March 29, 2015 at 2:34 AM