Petition to have GOP senators jailed for sending letter to Iran draws more than 140,000 signatures

posted at 11:31 am on March 11, 2015 by Allahpundit

More than 140,000 as I write this, I should say. An hour ago, it was 136,000. At this rate, it’ll hit 200,000 by the end of the day.

Ed touched on this in passing earlier but I think we should pause to savor the moment when more than 100,000 Americans join together — on the White House website, no less — to call for arresting members of the Senate majority for the offense of challenging Barack Obama on something he’s worked really hard at. Because, let’s face it, that’s what’s driving this.

On March 9th, 2015, forty-seven United States Senators committed a treasonous offense when they decided to violate the Logan Act, a 1799 law which forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

At a time when the United States government is attempting to reach a potential nuclear agreement with the Iranian government, 47 Senators saw fit to instead issue a condescending letter to the Iranian government stating that any agreement brokered by our President would not be upheld once the president leaves office.

This is a clear violation of federal law. In attempting to undermine our own nation, these 47 senators have committed treason.

The “tell” is the way the author conflates treason with the Logan Act. They’re separate offenses: One will get you three years in the pen, the other will get you lethal injection. They’re being sloppy about terminology in the petition because they want to use the word “treason,” a term with political resonance that “the Logan Act” lacks. That’s what they’re outraged by — the political, not legal, crime of defying Obama on his big foreign-policy showpiece, despite the fact that the Constitution explicitly empowers the Senate to defy him by granting it veto power over treaties. From war to immigration to health-care reform, the Democratic view of separation of powers ever since Republicans reclaimed the House in 2010 is that Obama has the right to act unilaterally for the common good if the GOP tries to obstruct him. Some lefties are explicit about it. If you hold that view, that Obama has an obligation to work with Congress only to the extent that Congress is willing to do what he wants, then of course you’d see treason here. The Constitution doesn’t apply in cases of partisan gridlock, silly.

In fact, the way Democrats have misread the Logan Act is revealing in how it treats Obama himself as the sum total of the United States government. Steve Vladeck:

The text of the Logan Act makes it a crime for citizens to engage in “any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government . . . with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government . . . in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States.” As Peter explained yesterday, the Senators’ letter certainly seems to fall within this language. But, critically, the citizen must act “without authority of the United States.” Although most assume that means without authority of the Executive Branch, the Logan Act itself does not specify what this term means, and the State Department told Congress in 1975 that “Nothing in section 953 . . . would appear to restrict members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the Constitution.” That doesn’t mean Members would have immunity under the Constitution’s Speech and Debate Clause; it just means the statute would arguably not apply in the first place. Combined with the rule of lenity and the constitutional concerns identified below, it seems likely that contemporary and/or future courts would interpret this provision to not apply to such official communications from Congress.

Is Tom Cotton, a duly elected member of the body that’s authorized to approve treaties, acting with the “authority of the United States” when he communicates with a potential treaty partner about its prospects? If you equate “United States” with “U.S. Constitution,” sure. If you equate “United States” with “Barack Obama,” who heads a branch that’s supposed to be no more powerful than Cotton’s, then no. In a country where one party increasingly views the national legislature as a rubber stamp to be sought for political cover (as with the pending Syria AUMF) or a nuisance to be ignored when it challenges the president, go figure that Democrats prefer the second reading.

And the punchline is, Cotton’s “letter” doesn’t matter at all. As even some lefties have admitted, the “letter” was really just a press release reminding everyone that unless Obama comes to the Senate for ratification of his Iran deal, it’ll have no binding authority on his successor. (One potential successor, Scott Walker, made that point himself yesterday.) If he won’t let them vote on the nuke deal, Senate Republicans can at least warn him what that might cost him. And Iran surely understands that already; they’re not going to make a deal with O without having studied the long-term prospects for its survival. Cotton’s not telling the enemy anything that the enemy doesn’t already know. Obama’s approach to a nuclear non-treaty is the same as his approach to amnesty: Even though he can’t legally bind the next president to it, he’s hoping/expecting that the politics of disrupting the status quo will be sufficiently harsh that not even President Walker will dare meddle with the arrangement he’s left. Again: Politics, not law. That’s what 140,000 people want Republicans arrested over. Of all the awful precedents Obama has left, this sentiment may be the most obnoxious.

Exit question via Joel Pollak: Who’s closer to having committed treason, a guy who issues a press release reciting basic constitutional divisions of power or a guy who’s determined to give a terrorist state known for proclaiming “death to America” a 10-year path to uranium enrichment?


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Resist We Much on March 11, 2015 at 9:07 PM

And what part of what Kennedy did makes it OK? And did Kennedy get all democrats in the senate to sign on?

Foreign policy is the domain of the executive branch . The Senate can get involved later if some treaty has to be ratified or not.

But to go behind the president and do this disgraceful act and disrecpect his office is a low blow and borderline disgraceful.

People get sent to Siberia for life in Russia for stuff like this.

Get ready for Madam President. The GOP is stuck-on-stupid.

weedisgood on March 11, 2015 at 5:30 PM

You’re answer is so stuck-on-stupid.

Will you quit drinking your bong water?

In no less than seven times Democrats have done even worse than what you claim the Republicans have done.

Your disgrace is laughable because the precedent for the last 20 years has come from the Democrats.

Finally, there is nothing that Hillary has done that qualifies her for president. She is a serial liar with no redeeming qualities and the personality of squeaky chalk.

I dearly hope she gets the nomination. Going after Madam Paranoid will be like shooting fish in a bucket.

itsspideyman on March 11, 2015 at 9:26 PM

weedisgood on March 11, 2015 at 5:30 PM

Hey Pothead, here is your girl. Posted from another thread by Aesop.


While a college student, Hillary worked several summer jobs. In 1971, she arrived in Washington, D.C. to work on U.S. Senator Walter Mondale’s sub-committee on migrant workers. The next summer found her out west, working for the campaign of Democratic presidential nominee George McGovern.

Then, in the spring of 1974, Rodham became a member of the presidential impeachment inquiry staff, advising the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives during the Watergate Scandal.

Her boss back then, Jerry Zeifman, now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, tells a very revealing story concerning her work there.

According to Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former Yale Law Professor, Burke Marshall, also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair.

When the Watergate Investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation. That made the Future First Lady and Secretary of State one of only three people who earned that badge of dishonor in Zeifman’s 17-year career.

Why?

According to Zeifman,

Because she was a liar. She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.

Zeifman claims that she was one of several individuals including Marshall, Special Counsel John Doar, and Senior Associate Special Counsel (and future Clinton White House Counsel) Bernard Nussbaum, who plotted to deny Richard Nixon the right to counsel during the investigation.

With this record, how did she manage to launder her reputation well enough to stay employed?

Because she was conspiring against Nixon, of course, so that didn’t count.

AesopFan on March 11, 2015 at 8:49 PM

Quit smoking the seeds when you run out and you won’t get as many headaches and you might think better.

itsspideyman on March 11, 2015 at 9:31 PM

Unlawful enforcement of a nonexistent law to satisfy a mewling pack of fascists.

Yep, that’ll work out just like they want it to. Heh, sure.

Andy__B on March 11, 2015 at 9:41 PM

I am the only true delete God .

I serve only the most deserving Marxist Democrats.

You will bow to my powers.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on March 11, 2015 at 9:58 PM

Why?

According to Zeifman,

Because she was a liar. She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.

Zeifman claims that she was one of several individuals including Marshall, Special Counsel John Doar, and Senior Associate Special Counsel (and future Clinton White House Counsel) Bernard Nussbaum, who plotted to deny Richard Nixon the right to counsel during the investigation.

With this record, how did she manage to launder her reputation well enough to stay employed?

itsspideyman on March 11, 2015 at 9:31 PM

Why? Perhaps because a corrupt young pervert from Yale/Hot Springs was tied into the the Phil Bailley/Heidi Rikan DNC/Watergate callgirl ring.

karllafong on March 11, 2015 at 10:13 PM

A couple of weeks ago, it was beyond the pale of decency to ask if Obama loves America, but today it’s fine to call 47 Republican senators traitors.
— Insty

least1 on March 11, 2015 at 10:16 PM

If the MSM is sick of trying to cover for her already… her chances of winning are done.. I doubt she could even come close to winning the nomination at his point.. the Obama loyalists aren’t rushing to her defense.. the Warren boosters are smelling blood…
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obscurity would be the best punishment for her at this point.. to fade from notice, another forgotten hack politician doomed by her own dark nature and bloodlust politics..

undone by hubris and a maniacal penchant for sneering at the public..

mark81150 on March 11, 2015 at 10:17 PM

A couple of weeks ago, it was beyond the pale of decency to ask if Obama loves America, but today it’s fine to call 47 Republican senators traitors.
— Insty

least1 on March 11, 2015 at 10:16 PM

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Welcome to Obama’s democrat party… where groveling is mandatory and human sacrifice a dictatorial demand by his acolytes’..
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just when you thought they could not sink any lower into the sewer,.. They don scuba tanks and dive right in..
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So.. think any of these subspecies of the mouth breather obama cult think Ted Kennedy should have been charged with treason for asking the Soviet KGB to interfere in the 84 elections?
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not a letter about them… asking them to interfere…
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Kennedy was certainly a traitor a scumbag drunk, a serial woman abuser.. and democrats still worship his name..

but act in your roll s a Senator to advise on a treaty that looks terrible?.. they run right to screaming hysteria..
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even 200,000 nitwits hysterics in the democrats is lame… we know they have far far more morons than that paltry number walking around.. and voting multiple times per election.

mark81150 on March 11, 2015 at 10:33 PM

Mucking ignorant leeches

Schadenfreude on March 11, 2015 at 11:12 PM

Petition to have GOP senators jailed for sending letter to Iran draws more than 140,000 signatures

Fine with me as long as they arrest prominent Dems starting with Obama.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 11, 2015 at 11:30 PM

Israel has already admitted they have no capacity to stop the development. So, no, it’s not an option.

Tlaloc on March 11, 2015 at 7:22 PM

The closest Israel has come to admitting impotence in this particular matter is that they have no diplomatic channels to pursue. There are possibilities viz-a-vis Israel that you, as a libwit, are not willing to entertain. And that’s okay. Israel will do whatever is necessary to ensure its own continuing existence no matter how belligerent President Obama is towards them. And I’m totally okay with that.

gryphon202 on March 11, 2015 at 11:53 PM

We have to first determine what Obama’s agreement with Iran is. If it is not a formal treaty than it is undoubtedly illegal since a president cannot personally make an agreement with a foreign country.

ARTICLE II US CONSTITUTION EXECUTIVE POWERS

Section 2, Paragraph 2

(The President) “He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided that two-thirds of the Senators present concur.”

I don’t remember Obama meeting with the senate on an agreement with Iran. Also, i don’t remember 67 (sixty-seven) of the senators present agreeing with him–without which any such agreement is null and void.

Could anybody tell me when this meeting occurred and do you have a roll call vote list of the 67 senators who agreed with him on it? Or did this disappear with Hillary’s & Lois Lerner’s emails and Al Sharpton’s tax records?

MaiDee on March 12, 2015 at 12:00 AM

The closest Israel has come to admitting impotence in this particular matter is that they have no diplomatic channels to pursue. There are possibilities viz-a-vis Israel that you, as a libwit, are not willing to entertain. And that’s okay. Israel will do whatever is necessary to ensure its own continuing existence no matter how belligerent President Obama is towards them. And I’m totally okay with that.

gryphon202 on March 11, 2015 at 11:53 PM

Okay, so they have bombs that can target facilities under mountains? And they can deliver these bombs without having to fly through hostile airspace? Or is the israeli army going to march through Jordan and Iraq and then attack Iran in a bloody ground war?

Which fantasy scenario are you depending on?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:11 AM

Willfully ignoring 50% of O’bama’s genetic DNA, which is in fact White, solely for political reasons? That’s Racist, Meathead.

>F<

Del Dolemonte on March 11, 2015 at 5:01 PM

American racists, including Democrats, have always followed the “one drop” rule whereby any black ancestry makes one black. Hence why you guys treat Obama so badly despite him being half the one race you like.

Tlaloc on March 11, 2015 at 7:25 PM

Now you’re admitting he’s half-white, despite claiming earlier in this very thread that he’s black.

Congratulations, Meathead, you really do have the attention span of a standing ashtray.

F- #1

Simple question for a simple mind:

O’bama’s father was black, and his mother was white. Only one here denying that is you, at least until I called out your ignorance.

Your hero made a deliberate decision to call himself “black”, despite being born half-white, and despite the fact that he was raised in white privilege by his uber-wealthy white bank vice president grandma in a wealthy apartment in Honolulu, who also sent him to the priciest elite prep school there, Punahou. At the time, that school still honored the ancient Hawaiian school tradition called “Kill Haole Day”. Last day of school = all the white kids get beat up because of their race. Funny how the wiki entry for that school was magically scrubbed of all references of Kill Haole Day during the summer of 2008! Pravda would approve.

Riddle us this, Cultist: If things were reversed, and it was O’bama’s father who was white and his mother was black, which race would he assume for personal gain?

And why would he totally discard half of his family’s genetic history in the first place? Because he didn’t like it? That would make him racist.

Not expecting an answer so the grade comes in advance.

F- #2

Del Dolemonte on March 12, 2015 at 12:21 AM

Which fantasy scenario are you depending on?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:11 AM

Why do you hate Israel and its people?

Del Dolemonte on March 12, 2015 at 12:22 AM

Why do you hate Israel and its people?

Del Dolemonte on March 12, 2015 at 12:22 AM

I hate Israel as an extremely aggressive state that commit genocide on it’s neighbors and was founded by stealing land from the native people. It’s hard to think of a country as incredibly ruthless and completely unconcerned with civilian casualties as Israel. Maybe, maybe, north korea.

I’d ask why you suck up to Israel despite the many times they’ve betrayed us and their general history of human rights violations but I can guess- your magic book told you to.

How fortunate for Israel that they were able to tap into the delusions of a wealthy portion of the US electorate so that may commit no end of crimes and always be shielded by your fecklessness.

As for the Israeli people some of them are perfectly decent and speak out against their nation’s horror show. I have no problem with them.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

Now you’re admitting he’s half-white, despite claiming earlier in this very thread that he’s black.

The point was that you think of him as black. And that’s enough to hate him.

Simple question for a simple mind:

O’bama’s father was black, and his mother was white. Only one here denying that is you, at least until I called out your ignorance.

As usual you have no capacity to tell the truth. I’ve never denied that, in fact I don’t think I’ve ever even mentioned his parentage.

Riddle us this, Cultist: If things were reversed, and it was O’bama’s father who was white and his mother was black, which race would he assume for personal gain?

That’s literally the dumbest thing you’ve said to me to date. Not only did it take you forever to get to your question but when we got there it was completely devoid of substance.

Congratulations on raising the bar on your incapacity to make a point.

Not expecting an answer so the grade comes in advance.

F- #2

Del Dolemonte on March 12, 2015 at 12:21 AM

And you shouldn’t expect an answer to a question that idiotic, so at least you get points for figuring that much out.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:44 AM

I remember hearing about ideas for new bunkers that could wipe out Iranian facilities deep underground. Such as 16″ gun barrels from old Navy ships packed with lots of stuff and dropped from high altitude.

Talk about ruin your whole day.

Christien on March 12, 2015 at 12:47 AM

s/b new bunker busters

Christien on March 12, 2015 at 12:49 AM

Del,

The fool probably thinks the Ayodhya mosque was there first, not what was beneath it.

Christien on March 12, 2015 at 12:50 AM

I hate Israel as an extremely aggressive state that commit genocide on it’s neighbors and was founded by stealing land from the native people.
Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

Then you hate the US too.

Skywise on March 12, 2015 at 12:56 AM

I hate Israel as an extremely aggressive state that commit genocide on it’s neighbors and was founded by stealing land from the native people.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

Then you hate the US too.

Skywise on March 12, 2015 at 12:56 AM

I read Brainloc’s crap, and it’s so stupid it seems like it has to be satire. But then, what kind of person would put so much effort into the act besides someone who’s truly insane? lol

Since he’s undoubtedly a lunatic either way, it’s a waste of time to deal with him. :)

Anti-ControI on March 12, 2015 at 1:11 AM

Skywise,

What difference, at this point, does it make? He can still help fund Israel’s defense–nobody could care less how he feels about it. Instead of pay-to-play, think of it as pay-to-bray like a true donk.

Christien on March 12, 2015 at 1:19 AM

K. T.
Coos Bay, OR
March 12, 2015
Signature # 202,335

That’s probably Kilgore Tlaloc, Chuckles’s toady.

Christien on March 12, 2015 at 1:24 AM

If he won’t let them vote on the nuke deal, Senate Republicans can at least warn him what that might cost him. And Iran surely understands that already; they’re not going to make a deal with O without having studied the long-term prospects for its survival. Cotton’s not telling the enemy anything that the enemy doesn’t already know. Obama’s approach to a nuclear non-treaty is the same as his approach to amnesty: Even though he can’t legally bind the next president to it, he’s hoping/expecting that the politics of disrupting the status quo will be sufficiently harsh that not even President Walker will dare meddle with the arrangement he’s left. Again: Politics, not law. That’s what 140,000 people want Republicans arrested over. Of all the awful precedents Obama has left, this sentiment may be the most obnoxious.

Again, I think part of Cotton’s objective was to make sure the LIVs knew what the rules were for treaties.
Obviously, this bunch doesn’t know anything about the Constitution.

AesopFan on March 12, 2015 at 1:30 AM

With this record, how did she manage to launder her reputation well enough to stay employed?

Because she was conspiring against Nixon, of course, so that didn’t count.

AesopFan on March 11, 2015 at 8:49 PM

Quit smoking the seeds when you run out and you won’t get as many headaches and you might think better.

itsspideyman on March 11, 2015 at 9:31 PM

Thanks for the shout-out, but only the part quoted here is mine.
I got the rest from kingsjester here.

AesopFan on March 12, 2015 at 1:31 AM

And spidey was talking to weedisgood, not me!

AesopFan on March 12, 2015 at 1:32 AM

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/03/a-quick-thought-about-tom-cottons-letter.php
Amen !
Lucano on March 11, 2015 at 3:40 PM

At least we can take pleasure that compared to Reagan, America won’t skip a beat when these pissants shuffle off from this life. The msm tried to make Teddy hic Kennedy’s wake into a several day media marathon but hardly anyone tuned in. They tried to ignore Reagan’s but had to do live feeds for days. When lurch goes he’ll pull about as well as Wellstone – a bizarre party.

When it’s oboobies turn the media will try their damnest to make it the greatest farewell ever, but it won’t be. Ill bet most heads of state won’t even show up, settling for the ambassador or a deputy foreign minister showing up. Just imagine, if he lives as long as Carter, we’ll have to endure his gutter sniping for another 35 years. Eww.

AH_C on March 12, 2015 at 2:12 AM

Liberals/democrats/morons/etc wouldn’t know treason if it came up and bit them on their diseased asses.

Sterling Holobyte on March 12, 2015 at 3:53 AM

If you don’t see this is one of the Dem Operatives “grassroots” turf ops, you are a half-wit. These are all the MMFA soldiers under Gen. Brock, not ordinary Americans.

mountainaires on March 12, 2015 at 6:48 AM

American racists, including Democrats, have always followed the “one drop” rule whereby any black ancestry makes one black. Hence why you guys treat Obama so badly despite him being half the one race you like.

Tlaloc on March 11, 2015 at 7:25 PM
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I hate Israel as an extremely aggressive state that commit genocide on it’s neighbors and was founded by stealing land from the native people. It’s hard to think of a country as incredibly ruthless and completely unconcerned with civilian casualties as Israel. Maybe, maybe, north korea.

I’d ask why you suck up to Israel despite the many times they’ve betrayed us and their general history of human rights violations but I can guess- your magic book told you to.

How fortunate for Israel that they were able to tap into the delusions of a wealthy portion of the US electorate so that may commit no end of crimes and always be shielded by your fecklessness.

As for the Israeli people some of them are perfectly decent and speak out against their nation’s horror show. I have no problem with them.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

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I see in the time I’ve been gone, the troll population here has gotten even more obviously, admittedly hateful evil and stupid..
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Most trolls at least make a half hearted attempt to hide their rabid bigotry. this clown wears it like a flag…

mark81150 on March 12, 2015 at 8:26 AM

As far as I’m concerned, every Republican who has gone along with Obummer deserves to go to prison for treason! If they aren’t going to do anything to stop this megalomaniac, then they are participating in the destruction of this country and need to be jailed. Bone and McTurtle will go along with what ever Dear Leader tells them, so they should be the first to go. It’s time for a Conservative Party, because the GOP is more corrupt than the Democrats!

flytier on March 12, 2015 at 8:43 AM

AesopFan on March 12, 2015 at 1:31 AM

np buddy, thanks for the clarity.

I’d remembered it from years ago, didn’t remember how damaging it was.

itsspideyman on March 12, 2015 at 9:11 AM

Okay, so they have bombs that can target facilities under mountains? And they can deliver these bombs without having to fly through hostile airspace? Or is the israeli army going to march through Jordan and Iraq and then attack Iran in a bloody ground war?

Which fantasy scenario are you depending on?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:11 AM

No less a fantasy scenario than whichever one you use to justify your belief that an Iran able to enrich uranium poses no threat to the United States.

No less a fantasy scenario than whichever one you use to justify your belief that anything President Obama is doing in these negotiations is anything other than a big steaming useless turd.

I really don’t fear for Israel mainly because they’ve come this far between 1947 and 2015. Their survival as a nation hasn’t been some happy accident. What I’m more worried about is what will happen to us — to America — if naked partisans like yourself prevail in the public square.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 10:01 AM

I hate Israel as an extremely aggressive state that commit genocide on it’s neighbors and was founded by stealing land from the native people. It’s hard to think of a country as incredibly ruthless and completely unconcerned with civilian casualties as Israel. Maybe, maybe, north korea.
I’d ask why you suck up to Israel despite the many times they’ve betrayed us and their general history of human rights violations but I can guess- your magic book told you to.
How fortunate for Israel that they were able to tap into the delusions of a wealthy portion of the US electorate so that may commit no end of crimes and always be shielded by your fecklessness.
As for the Israeli people some of them are perfectly decent and speak out against their nation’s horror show. I have no problem with them.
Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

I think it’s time for something very bad to happen to this “unfriendly peace loving hate advocate”.

On the other hand, banning this fecal refuse would have denied the opportunity to see just how subhuman it is.

RL on March 12, 2015 at 10:01 AM

I hate Israel as an extremely aggressive state that commit genocide on it’s neighbors and was founded by stealing land from the native people. It’s hard to think of a country as incredibly ruthless and completely unconcerned with civilian casualties as Israel. Maybe, maybe, north korea.

I’d ask why you suck up to Israel despite the many times they’ve betrayed us and their general history of human rights violations but I can guess- your magic book told you to.

How fortunate for Israel that they were able to tap into the delusions of a wealthy portion of the US electorate so that may commit no end of crimes and always be shielded by your fecklessness.

As for the Israeli people some of them are perfectly decent and speak out against their nation’s horror show. I have no problem with them.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

Antisemitism on display. Here’s your sign, libwit.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 10:03 AM

“But to go behind the president and do this disgraceful act and disrecpect his office is a low blow and borderline disgraceful.

People get sent to Siberia for life in Russia for stuff like this.

Get ready for Madam President. The GOP is stuck-on-stupid.

weedisgood on March 11, 2015 at 5:30 PM”
By sending their letter to every major news outlet in the world how can this be “Behind the president”? obama(no caps) has started the Constitutional crisis and now has to live with his open disregard for the rule of law. You advocate another in his image, hillary clinton (No caps), who has not only his putrid personality but all of his other flaws as well. Just what this nation needs is another shredder of the Constitution and an opaque administration.

inspectorudy on March 12, 2015 at 11:05 AM

What Teddy Kennedy did in secret in 1983 behind President Reagan’s back. .

What John “Winter Soldier” Kerry did in Paris in 1971, under cover of stolen valor and heinous lies behind President Nixon’s back. . .

What Nancy Pelosi did in 2007 behind President Bush’s back. . .

What Barry Soetero did in 2008 behind President Bush’s back. . .

These actions, and the multitude of secret “business” deals (Clinton/Gore with China, Feinstein (Blum) with China, etc.) may be called treason indeed.

What Senator Tom Cotton did, backed by 46 other sitting members of the upper House, was completely public. Yes, it was in fact intended to derail the completion of a negotiation with Iran. Yes, it was in opposition to White House goals. None of that is illegal, nor is it treasonous. In truth, it was an extremely American thing to do.

The current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Av has proven, with a firm six-year record, that he will not listen to the Advice and Consent of the Senate, preferring to play dictator and tyrant. How then shall that body conduct its Constitutional role in foreign policy? According to Democrats, the answer is “shut up”.

The letter was a public statement of fact regarding foreign policy matters in the U.S. government, citing the fact that deals arrived at in unilateral fashion by the President, without the support of Congress, are subject to being summarily vacated by the next President, and a foreign nation should be careful in considering how to proceed, given that knowledge.

This nation has friends, and enemies. Israel is one, Iran is the other. One is trustworthy to do what is aimed at civility and peace, the other is not. One holds the power of the atom and, in spite of their continuous persecution, and being under attack by many enemies, have not seen fit to employ it as a weapon, proving themselves honorable. The other has stated openly that, if it had a bomb, it would use it to destroy the other. And our “leader” praises the enemy while bashing the friend.

Freelancer on March 12, 2015 at 11:27 AM

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

^ tlaloc is the shit that scum scrapes off it’s shoes. Seriously, what a disgusting, vile piece of crap Tlaloc is.

HumpBot Salvation on March 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM

What Senator Tom Cotton did, backed by 46 other sitting members of the upper House, was completely public. Yes, it was in fact intended to derail the completion of a negotiation with Iran. Yes, it was in opposition to White House goals. None of that is illegal, nor is it treasonous. In truth, it was an extremely American thing to do.

*this*

Golden hit from Hillary, being a patriot means being able to disagree.

itsspideyman on March 12, 2015 at 11:48 AM

It’s long been just a matter of time before Progressives criminalize all opposition to their party. Anybody who has not recognized this eventuality have not been paying attention. It’s who they are.

As to the claim, would that these “patriots” had recognized the treasonous nature of their own behavior while actively undermining Presidential policy in 2003-2006 by airing classified documents to encourage our enemies’ protests against the war against Islamic jihadis. Would that they had recognized the Logan Act violations committed by candidate Obama when he engaged in negotiations with Hamas and Hezbollah in advance of the 2008 election. If we’re going to prosecute Logan Act violations, I say let’s start there.

philwynk on March 12, 2015 at 12:02 PM

it’s up to 222,000 this morning.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:10 PM

Sad to say we have so many Demos and liberals who can’t think, reason or whatever and want to imprison those who know the law and Constitution and freely advised what Iran must not be aware of (even though they said there were – sure!), while allowing the empty suit to destroy this country in every way he can and with their support. Are they not aware their beloved Ted Kennedy was a traitor during the Reagan tenure? Well, if not, they need to be informed. And, if they do know, then they are also traitors to America. Who cares if 200K petition stupidity proving they are stupid and ignorant, while the rest of us are applauding someone in Congress doing something positive to not have America nucleared. By the way, it also came about at about the same time people were upset that Iran has MORE nukes ready and upcoming. Sure, just for home use? Dumber than dumb and stupid cannot be removed because obviously is it a gene defect in Party animals.

Roselle on March 12, 2015 at 12:11 PM

Then you hate the US too.

Skywise on March 12, 2015 at 12:56 AM

We’ve made a lot of mistakes and our eqarly history is an abomination but we don’t commit genocide against our neighbors. We are entirely too gung ho about blowing up brown people. But no I don’t hate us. We’re nowhere near as bad as Israel except in that we support them materially.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:12 PM

No less a fantasy scenario than whichever one you use to justify your belief that an Iran able to enrich uranium poses no threat to the United States.

Okay so how will they threaten us? They have no delivery mechanisms to get the bombs here. They;ve never shown any willingness to give WMD to their various terrorist proxies. So how do you imagine it happening?

I really don’t fear for Israel mainly because they’ve come this far between 1947 and 2015. Their survival as a nation hasn’t been some happy accident. What I’m more worried about is what will happen to us — to America — if naked partisans like yourself prevail in the public square.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 10:01 AM

I presume you are talking about Israel having some divine protection. Hey great, so we can stop giving them billions in military aid, right? I mean if god is protecting you why do you need american bullets?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM

Antisemitism on display. Here’s your sign, libwit.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 10:03 AM

Israel =/= Jews

It’s just a country. Criticizing it is no different than criticizing China. It doesn’t mean you hate chinese people.

Grow up.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:17 PM

it’s up to 222,000 this morning.

And over 10 million have lost the healthcare they wanted, but who cares, right?

itsspideyman on March 12, 2015 at 12:42 PM

And over 10 million have lost the healthcare they wanted, but who cares, right?

itsspideyman on March 12, 2015 at 12:42 PM

Not Brainloc!

No I don’t care about you.

Tlaloc on March 10, 2015 at 7:02 PM

This freak couldn’t be a bigger clown if he tried… lol :)

Anti-ControI on March 12, 2015 at 1:12 PM

It’s just a country. Criticizing it is no different than criticizing China. It doesn’t mean you hate chinese people.

Grow up.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:17 PM

Hmm. The irony of Tlaloc telling me to grow up is just too rich.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 1:34 PM

It’s just a country.

I hate Israel….

Criticizing it is no different than criticizing China.

I hate Israel….

It doesn’t mean you hate chinese people.


I hate Israel….

Grow up.

I hate Israel….

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:17 PM

You leftist barking moonbats are something else….

tanked59 on March 12, 2015 at 1:57 PM

People who signed the petition – grow up. Congress has a strong voice in agreements, letters of understanding, and of course, treaties.

Amazingoly on March 12, 2015 at 2:09 PM

big foreign-policy showpiece, despite the fact that the Constitution explicitly empowers the Senate to defy him by granting it veto power over treaties.

Except it’s not a treaty. It is an executive agreement. Thus they have zero say in this issue. They want military strikes and say there is 0 chance diplomacy can work because AIPAC and the mil lobbyists said so. Where the Logan act comes into play is in the fact this agreement is still being negotiated and one branch of government basically tried to convince the foreign negotiators to balk. That is where there it some merit to seeing if a crime was committed.

It was a complete political stunt performed under the auspices of somehow educating a foreign country as if Iranians live in mud huts. Sorry, they are probably smarter than your average ill-educated millenial or rural resident of lofty high cultured places such as dead moose junction Arkansas.

The Iranian leadership is highly educated. It is a foolish mistake to assume because they live outside of the US that they are somehow primitive.

antisense on March 12, 2015 at 2:27 PM

You leftist barking moonbats are something else….

tanked59 on March 12, 2015 at 1:57 PM

if Israel really is “just a country,” how come so many of its neighbors want to see Israel wiped off the face of the map? For some little rinky-dink no-account Jew-home, it sure does seem to have a lot of significance to the Palestinians middle eastern Arabs.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 2:32 PM

I presume you are talking about Israel having some divine protection. Hey great, so we can stop giving them billions in military aid, right? I mean if god is protecting you why do you need american bullets?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM

Some on the Right are desperate for end times. Evidence of this is found on LGBTQ threads where something they don’t like is happening and they pine for the end days. On my local talk radio station there are advertisements for biblical calendars which track the “full 6,000 year history of earth from creation to the end days.” They think that Israel must be present in order for the messiah to return and lay waste to the world. Thus, their protection of that nation is sort of a death cult. Funny because they tell us the muslims believe the same thing. Only their death cult isn’t ok because the 12th imam will end the world. But if neo-Jesus ends the world it is ok. Personally, I would rather not see the world end.

antisense on March 12, 2015 at 2:33 PM

I presume you are talking about Israel having some divine protection. Hey great, so we can stop giving them billions in military aid, right? I mean if god is protecting you why do you need american bullets?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM

Some on the Right are desperate for end times. Evidence of this is found on LGBTQ threads where something they don’t like is happening and they pine for the end days. On my local talk radio station there are advertisements for biblical calendars which track the “full 6,000 year history of earth from creation to the end days.” They think that Israel must be present in order for the messiah to return and lay waste to the world. Thus, their protection of that nation is sort of a death cult. Funny because they tell us the muslims believe the same thing. Only their death cult isn’t ok because the 12th imam will end the world. But if neo-Jesus ends the world it is ok. Personally, I would rather not see the world end.

antisense on March 12, 2015 at 2:33 PM

Are you dumbasses done putting words in my mouth?

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 2:36 PM

Wow! Joe Biden signed the petition 140,000 times. He is more formidable than we previously believed.

paulus1 on March 12, 2015 at 3:24 PM

I hate Israel as an extremely aggressive state that commit genocide on it’s neighbors and was founded by stealing land from the native people. It’s hard to think of a country as incredibly ruthless and completely unconcerned with civilian casualties as Israel. Maybe, maybe, north korea.

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

Antisemitism on display. Here’s your sign, libwit.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 10:03 AM

Forget it, Jake. It’s Hymietown.

de rigueur on March 12, 2015 at 3:26 PM

Israel? What part of intercontinental ballistic missile eludes some of you people?

paulus1 on March 12, 2015 at 3:30 PM

Wow! Joe Biden signed the petition 140,000 times. He is more formidable than we previously believed.

paulus1 on March 12, 2015 at 3:24 PM

Actually, it was one guy trying to sign up for obamacare. He kept hitting the submit button.

HumpBot Salvation on March 12, 2015 at 4:04 PM

And over 10 million have lost the healthcare they wanted, but who cares, right?

itsspideyman on March 12, 2015 at 12:42 PM

Actual number: less than 2 million, but hey who’s counting?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 9:04 PM

if Israel really is “just a country,” how come so many of its neighbors want to see Israel wiped off the face of the map?

Because they’re an extremely heavily armed and belligerent neighbor.

For some little rinky-dink no-account Jew-home, it sure does seem to have a lot of significance to the Palestinians middle eastern Arabs.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 2:32 PM

Weird how people get touchy when a bunch of foreigners steal their land, round them up in concentration camps, humiliate them, starve them, murder their children, and so on. Who could have ever predicted treating the Palestinians that way might have engendered so hard feeling?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 9:07 PM

Are you dumbasses done putting words in my mouth?

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 2:36 PM

So what were you talking about then if not divine favor?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 9:08 PM

Weird how people get touchy when a bunch of foreigners steal their land, round them up in concentration camps, humiliate them, starve them, murder their children, and so on. Who could have ever predicted treating the Palestinians that way might have engendered so hard feeling?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 9:07 PM

I’m glad you understand history and know that all that was done to the Jews. But what does that have to do with the topic at hand? Israel was created so that would never be done to them again. You’re welcome for the education. You clearly need it.

njrob on March 12, 2015 at 11:30 PM

So what were you talking about then if not divine favor?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 9:08 PM

Only that I believe Israel has the will and the capability to defend its own existence regardless of what America chooses to do to sabotage Israel. Whatever course of action Bibi takes isn’t dependent on Obama’s approval, nor should it be. Thing is, I’m not Israeli. I’m American. And I do fear for America, largely because there are douchebags domestic enemies such as Obama working from the inside to sabotage us, as well.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 11:44 PM

Weird how people get touchy when a bunch of foreigners steal their land, round them up in concentration camps, humiliate them, starve them, murder their children, and so on. Who could have ever predicted treating the Palestinians that way might have engendered so hard feeling?

Tlaloc on March 12, 2015 at 9:07 PM

And that’s not what Israel does to Palestinians Arabs and you know it. You can’t possibly not know better. If Israel rounds up a bunch of towelheads Arabs and puts them in concentration camp, then why are there ethnic Arabs serving in the Knesset?

Methinks you suffer from a bit of confirmation bias, but regardless, anyone who uses the terms “apartheid” or “concentration camps” in reference to Israel forfeits their right to be taken seriously in my eyes.

gryphon202 on March 12, 2015 at 11:47 PM