Cave: House to strip out provisions opposing executive amnesty, vote on clean long-term funding bill for DHS

posted at 11:31 am on March 3, 2015 by Allahpundit

DHS is funded through the end of the week, so Boehner didn’t have to make his move today. But with most of the media focused on Bibi Netanyahu’s speech, he probably decided to use the distraction to try to bury the news of his capitulation. That’s appropriate. A fiasco this total should end with an air of shame around it.

After months of indecision and strife, Boehner told GOP lawmakers he plans to allow a vote as early as Tuesday on a clean bill to fund the Homeland Security Department through the rest of the fiscal year, dashing the hopes of conservatives who want to tie the money to language clocking President Obama’s executive actions on immigration…

“So he just caved in there,” Rep. Tim Huelskamp said of Boehner, adding: “Guess he forgot that a number of us had recommended that this was a poor strategy back in December.”…

“As you’ve heard me say a number of times, the House has done its job by passing legislation to fund DHS and block the president’s executive actions on immigration,” Boehner said, according to the source. “Unfortunately, the fight was never won in the other chamber. Democrats stayed united and blocked our bill, and our Republican colleagues in the Senate never found a way to win this fight. The three-week CR we offered would have kept this fight going and allowed us to continue to put pressure on Senate Democrats to do the right thing. Unfortunately, that plan was rejected.”

The most charitable theory I can come up with for why Boehner and McConnell thought this goony standoff might work is that they honestly didn’t know how the Senate’s few remaining centrist Democrats would react to the GOP midterm tsunami last year. Maybe Joe Manchin and Claire McCaskill and Heidi Heitkamp and the remaining purple-state survivors would be so spooked by back-to-back Republican waves, knowing that their own seats will be up in 2018, that they’d panic and vote for the House bill tying DHS funding to blocking Obama’s executive amnesty. If that had happened and the bill had passed, it would have been a cannon shot at the White House: Not only did Republicans have control of Congress, it would have showed O, but they’ve got a bunch of jittery Dems willing to make their challenges to the administration bipartisan. In the end, Boehner and McConnell lost their bet as centrist Dems stayed loyal to Obama and Reid.

We can argue over whether that bet was worth making. What we can’t argue over is this:

Why indeed? According to National Journal, Boehner told the GOP caucus this morning, “With more active threats coming into the homeland, I don’t believe [a DHS shutdown is] an option. Imagine if, God forbid, another terrorist attack hits the United States.” Okay, but then why did they refuse to fund DHS in the “cromnibus” bill in the first place? The point of withholding DHS’s money at the time was to put pressure on Obama to agree to the GOP’s conditions on amnesty. If Republicans were unwilling to let DHS shut down — which we all knew, including Obama, and which John Thune openly admitted two months ago — then there was never any pressure on O at all. It was transparently a bluff, and both the White House and the Senate’s centrist Democrats knew it. It was guaranteed to fail.

That’s the takeaway here. Ace was pounding the table last night over this story in The Hill about Boehner supposedly having made a backroom deal with Pelosi to bring up a clean long-term funding bill for DHS this week if her caucus bailed him out before last week’s deadline by supporting a short-term funding bill on Friday. A Democratic aide insists that a deal was struck, and Pelosi and Steny Hoyer were coy about it when asked. But I’m not sure there was a deal. If you’re a smart strategist like Pelosi, why would you need an explicit commitment from Boehner to know that he was set to cave? Once the Democratic centrists in the Senate refused to bend, this surrender was inevitable — and designed to be so once GOP leaders settled on DHS funding as their alleged “pressure point” in the cromnibus in December. Remember, Boehner and McConnell took office in January determined to show voters that Republicans could be trusted to govern responsibly, i.e. with no more shutdowns or debt-ceiling standoffs. They chose DHS’s money as their leverage on amnesty not because they thought it would make Obama blink but because they knew it’d be easier to sell an eventual capitulation on that money to conservatives. “We can’t withhold the funding!” they could say. “ISIS will overrun Washington!” And some righties, persuaded by hyper-hawks like John McCain that withholding one thin dime from nonessential DHS personnel would cause a national security crisis, will let them off the hook. The whole DHS/amnesty standoff was just a pander to righties with an escape clause — “we must fund our homeland’s security!” — built in. Washington Republicans aren’t so good at outmaneuvering Barack Obama or Harry Reid, but they’re darned good at outmaneuvering their own base. And they should be. They seem to spend most of their time on it.

The only remaining check on Obama is the courts. If that wasn’t already painfully clear before today, it is now.


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Henceforth, from today we’ll change the name from Congressmen to “Funding Lackeys”.

Axeman on March 3, 2015 at 8:15 PM

well this is the end of the USA. With 4 million more demoturd voters and 10 million more in next amnesty, the inmates are running the asylum

txdoc on March 3, 2015 at 8:24 PM

Also, remember here Tlaloc, your ideology was formed in the piss holes of Woodstock in the minds of hallucinating adolescents back in the flatulent 1960s.

Ergo, your ideology is the antithesis of objective reality, since it was founded on self induced distortions of it.

Star Bird on March 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM

If you say so Starbird, bu then I guess you should ask yourself why you keep losing over and over again to the guys you think are delusional.

Seems like maybe you should think carefully about which o us is out of touch with reality because reality has not been kind to you…

Tlaloc on March 3, 2015 at 8:26 PM

Ahh, I see you drones have taken to plagiarizing the “hyperventilation” insult now as well.

Good dog.

Star Bird on March 3, 2015 at 6:08 PM

Tell me, genius, how exactly does one plagiarize a single word?

Tlaloc on March 3, 2015 at 8:28 PM

If you say so Starbird, bu then I guess you should ask yourself why you keep losing over and over again to the guys you think are delusional.

Seems like maybe you should think carefully about which o us is out of touch with reality because reality has not been kind to you…

Tlaloc on March 3, 2015 at 8:26 PM

Isn’t that rather like saying you can’t be a good salesman unless you never, ever lie? Or that McDonald’s grew to be so huge by selling the best food available?

Or if you’d rather me put it another way, is “If you like your health plan, you can keep it” reality?

Is “The attack on the embassy grew out of a spontaneous protest over a video” reality?

Is “There is not a smidgen of corruption at the IRS” reality?

Is “we are leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq” reality?

Are you really gonna claim that Obama wins because his words and actions reflect reality? Seriously?

GrumpyOldFart on March 3, 2015 at 9:11 PM

For those of you who are saying it’s time to punish the GOP, how do you plan on doing that, writing an e-mail to Boehner and telling him you’re seriously upset? No, the thing to do is, for those who really are upset, to start a 3rd Party. Now is the time to start it. We have to recruit candidates, we have to find funding. There are many things that need to be done but there is a base, called the tea party, which can get this thing rolling. Because the Republicans have allowed the tea party to be so thoroughly trashed by the MSM, the name will have to be changed, but the will and desire need not be changed.

I can think of a few I’d like to recruit. Jeff Sessions, Louis Gohmert, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, are just a start, we need candidates who can win seats and throw the Republicans out. If it’s done right, the Republicans will go the way of the Whigs in short order. The Whigs became extinct because they tried to be Democrat lite on slavery and allow all these compromises. The Republican Party took over because they had a serious vision for the country and were willing to carry it out. Now, the Republican Party is just like the Whigs and they have no principles. They lie to the people to get elected and then, once if office, don’t fulfill their promises.

I’m just a working slub who doesn’t have the time or the money to get this done but I pray, daily, that someone, somewhere thinks like I do and is willing to do what it takes to start this thing. As a working slub I’m willing to do what I can, and I will, but we really need a 3rd Party before 2016.

bflat879 on March 3, 2015 at 9:24 PM

Excellent comments.

1. Guaranteed a number of GOP were given permission by Boehner to vote against the measure. He only used the minimum GOP votes required along with the DEM votes

The vote was too close. It was calculated

2. IMHO the stealth vote was pre planned, Boehner created the Netanyahu event to give cover for amnesty vote.

3. IMHO Obama was not upset by Bibi speaking. More likely he coordinated the charade with Boehner.

4. The DEMs had to be near the House to make the vote. A big vote like this is planned in advance. They wanted their names on the legislation, for future elections. And Boehner wanted cover for the stealth RINOs to be able to vote NAY

Boehner, Pelosi, McConnell probably laughing about it together, behind the scenes.

Not to discount the value of Netanyahu’s speech, but he was sucker bait


We are now in the same position as UKIP
, where other UK parties unite to block it. However that coalition accelerates the rise of UKIP. I expect the same here.

Freedom is the awareness of alternatives, and the ability to Choose (heard on Savage)

The place to not quit is this website especially if it was indeed purchased to be neutered

Extract from Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 20 Dec. 1787 [Quote]
I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. when they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.

breitbart.com/big-government/2013/07/04/tocqueville-s-warning-to-america-the-dangers-of-despotism/

A constitution which should be republican in its head, and ultra-monarchical in all its other parts, has ever appeared to me to be a short-lived monster. The vices of rulers and the inaptitude of the people would speedily bring about its ruin; and the nation, weary of its representatives and of itself, would create freer institutions, or soon return to stretch itself at the feet of a single master
Alexis de Tocqueville in Book Four, Chapter VI of Democracy America

Family member was at a CA DMV yesterday and said the border crossers were being issued drivers licenses without having to take a test. So the barbarians feast on the carcass of West Rome, which sold itself for a brief moment of power

I am not quitting. I got nothing to lose now. That was a serious miscalculation on their part

entagor on March 3, 2015 at 10:48 PM

2. IMHO the stealth vote was pre planned, Boehner created the Netanyahu event to give cover for amnesty vote.

4. The DEMs had to be near the House to make the vote. A big vote like this is planned in advance. They wanted their names on the legislation, for future elections. And Boehner wanted cover for the stealth RINOs to be able to vote NAY

Boehner, Pelosi, McConnell probably laughing about it together, behind the scenes.

Not to discount the value of Netanyahu’s speech, but he was sucker bait

entagor on March 3, 2015 at 10:48 PM

Great comment.

Regarding #2: Yes, the vote was staged with many allowed to vote no to create “plausible deniability”. But that only works if we allow it.

Solution: Never tell a politician to vote for or against something or you’ll never send them money or vote for them again… Tell them they are responsible for achieving the right outcome regardless of how they vote. Hold them accountable for the results not how they “vote” – and make sure they know it.

Don’t be reasonable, we are long past that.

There is no coincidence here. This vote was planned long ago and the timeline laid out. Boehner inviting Netanyahu to speak at this particular time is not coincidence – if it wasn’t him it would have been something else.

They are playing the GOP base like a violin… Especially the submissive, craven little RINOs.

DrDeano on March 4, 2015 at 12:35 AM

The DHS should not exist in the first place. It was GWB’s way of avoiding dealing with ruling-class failure i.e. wall’s of separation between different agencies and the fact that the Clinton’s are our friends, blah, blah…

And the fact that Government, the larger, has always been the Bush family’s answer to everything.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Bay-Nar.

Feedie on March 4, 2015 at 12:39 AM

There’s an opportunity here for the conservative presidential candidate. This is the low-point of Boehner’s tenure (when he had every advantage) so in this vacuum, the next president should map out what needs to be done, make it clear that Boehner and McConnell’s time is up and paint a picture for a campaign that the currently elected representatives can get behind. Right now, Republicans are going nowhere but towards electoral defeat in 2016.

With real leadership, this can be turned around. Who is going to take control of the narrative? We know its not Boehner and McConnell.

virgo on March 4, 2015 at 3:13 AM

If you say so Starbird, bu then I guess you should ask yourself why you keep losing over and over again to the guys you think are delusional.

Wait, aren’t you supposed to parrot the deeply idiotic “5 out of 6” meme again? You know, the one where you arbitrarily ignore the last 9 or 12 presidential elections because they don’t conform to your manufactured narrative?

Can you tell me if the 2010 and 2014 mid-terms constitute “losing over and over again?”

Besides, what does winning have to do with perceptions of reality? Charlie Sheen was always winning too from what I hear, and Jim Jones won in his own socialist paradise.

The Jews lost to their leftist oppressors in Germany, who based their socialist ideology on the writings of spiritualist medium. Which one understood reality?

Seems like maybe you should think carefully about which o us is out of touch with reality because reality has not been kind to you…

Tlaloc on March 3, 2015 at 8:26 PM

Now, I understand that drones such as yourself are well practiced in typing out the phrase, “objective reality.” It’s a pretty cute trick.

But let’s be perfectly honest here. The kinds of people who cry to trees and cheat on the Eiffel Tower with the Golden Gate Bridge, can hardly be said to be masters of objective reality.

So I have thought carefully about who is out of touch with reality, and it certainly aren’t the ones who embrace an ideology that was founded on LSD mixed with social justice fantasy making.

So are we perfectly clear on this now drone?

Star Bird on March 4, 2015 at 8:25 AM

Tell me, genius, how exactly does one plagiarize a single word?

Tlaloc on March 3, 2015 at 8:28 PM

Certainly.

This goes back to our earlier discussion with regards to perceptions of reality.

Attack the right’s perception of reality, is yet another plagiarized insult.

You see, as you’re fully aware, leftists are incapable of generating original thought. They receive their thoughts from the edicts of the Collective, and things that they hear others say.

So dippy hippies from the extremely flatulent 1960s, have spent decades listening to their superior forebears and others around them correctly accuse them of not being able to perceive reality correctly, due to their often touted experimentation with mind altering substances. Again, their perceptions of reality are founded on distortions of it. So this insult was very applicable.

But when the left hears an insult so often, they attempt what the call “appropriation.” They attempt to appropriate the insult, and send it back. The amusing part in all of this though, is that when they do so, it just doesn’t make any sense because it’s not really founded on any kind of…reality.

Such is the case with the “hyperventilation” insult.

Drones have been listening to those on the right talk about hyperventilating leftists, because of their behavioral antics; the marching and chanting at protests, the toddler-esque flapping of arms when they don’t get their way, the weeping and wailing, the drumming and horn blowing, the solidarity singing, the shouting over others to silence the opposition, the talking over of others who are speaking; the intrinsic leftist characteristic general inability to control oneself emotionally.

So again, when you plagiarize, or appropriate, this insult, and attempt to return it to sender, to those on the right who don’t engage in these sorts of emotionally unhinged antics, it just doesn’t make any sense.

It’s like the child who yelps, “Well you’re just stupid too!” because he doesn’t understand what the adult means when he says tells the child that he’s not old enough to stay at home alone.

Star Bird on March 4, 2015 at 8:50 AM

If you say so Starbird, bu then I guess you should ask yourself why you keep losing over and over again to the guys you think are delusional.

Besides Tlaloc, it’s not as though any wins your kind make are the result of honest discussion and debate.

Rather, they’re the result of importing uneducated political pawns who are easily subjugated for your own petty benefit.

Star Bird on March 4, 2015 at 8:57 AM

I almost forgot, “reactionary” is another good one that the Collective has appropriated/plagiarized recently.

The Collective’s ideology is guided primarily by whatever they think Republicans hate or will be offended by at any given moment. We can support this claim, by pointing to the left’s uneducated disapproval of the Constitution, support for gay marriage, opposition to sane immigration policies, support of Jihadists and enemies of Israel particularly after 9/11; readers other than yourself will get the picture here.

Now, the left has appropriated this and love to now claim that the right is reactionary, that if there is a resolution stating that the sky is blue, dastardly Republicans will oppose it.

Yet, this completely ignores not only the behavioral examples we can point to that prove the exact opposite as I mention above, but also, it ignores the fact that the left’s piss hole originated ideology, was couched in a “counter culture,” a fact they proudly point to routinely. There’s really nothing more reactionary, than being counter to an entire culture, now is there? This counter culturalism is so inculcated in the dregs who gave us the world we now live in, that they aren’t even aware that it provides the basis for their own reactionary behavior.

It’s why the Collective advocated drinking bottled water, and then after everyone embraced the practice, immediately turned around 180 degrees and decided they wanted to march and chant against drinking bottled water. Whatever the culture is at any given moment, the Collective is compelled to react counter to it, even when it’s of their own making.

Star Bird on March 4, 2015 at 11:53 AM

It maybe a stupid question but why in the hell do we drink the repugnant kool-aid again by voting these @$$holes into office. ?

hamradio on March 5, 2015 at 12:18 AM