House Freedom Caucus chair Jim Jordan: No, we’re not trying to oust Boehner as Speaker

posted at 2:41 pm on March 2, 2015 by Allahpundit

Strong words from a man who’s been touted as a potential successor in case conservatives ever manage to wrest the gavel away from establishmentarians.

Stories about whether House tea partiers might dump Boehner are the congressional equivalent of stories about Trump running for president. Deep down everyone knows neither one will happen but the sliver of a chance that they might is way too much fun for political reporters to resist.

House Republicans who have opposed measures to fund the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) because they haven’t also rolled back President Obama’s executive action on immigration need to be louder, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said Sunday…

The conservative lawmaker played down a potential coup against Boehner should the Speaker introduce a “clean” funding bill for DHS that does not include measures to roll back Obama’s executive actions, saying he was “most interested” in upholding the Constitution.

“That’s not gonna happen. That’s not the issue.”

That’s the chairman of the new, very conservative House Freedom Caucus talking, a group about which a senior GOP aide recently said to Roll Call, “They’re not legislators, they’re just a**holes.” If anyone’s going to lead the charge against Boehner, they will. How would they go about doing it, though? If you read last night’s QOTD, you already know: There’s a rumor floating around that House conservatives will file a motion to vacate Boehner’s title as Speaker, a measure unlikely to pass but guaranteed to humiliate Boehner if ti came to the floor. It’d be a de facto vote of no confidence by a key bloc within his own caucus. It’d take 218 votes for the motion to pass, which means tea partiers couldn’t get it through without overwhelming support for Democrats. The theory is that Pelosi would oppose it since passage would mean empowering conservatives at the expense of centrists, but I don’t know. There’s nothing much productive Pelosi can do in the House anymore, in which case why not promote the “Republican civil war” narrative by joining with righties to dethrone Boehner? The more convinced swing voters are that congressional Republicans are a mess, the more inclined they might be to hand power back to the Democrats.

The only hope here for righties, and all it is is a hope, is that Boehner would be so shamed by the motion to vacate and so disgusted with this endless tug of war between the center and the right that he’d use it as an excuse to quit. There’s a … slim possibility of that happening, I guess. But there’s also a possibility that he’ll quietly huddle with Pelosi and let House Democrats use an obscure rule to force a vote on the Reid/McConnell Senate bill to fund DHS long-term.

With rumblings about a full-scale revolt from within the ranks should Boehner put a funding bill on the floor that doesn’t explicitly block implementation of President Barack Obama’s immigration executive actions, there was talk Friday night from senior House Democratic aides of Republicans having found a face-saving procedural gambit that would ultimately end in full funding for Department of Homeland Security for the remainder of the fiscal year…

Clause four of House Rule XXII (not to be confused with the more-often cited Senate Rule XXII) provides: “When the stage of disagreement has been reached on a bill or resolution with House or Senate amendments, a motion to dispose of any amendment shall be privileged.”…

Because such a motion is “privileged” that would then trigger a vote on sending the Senate-amended full year Homeland Security appropriations bill to Obama’s desk without any of those riders designed to block his executive actions on immigration…

It would still require a majority vote of the House, and therefore would require dozens of Republican votes and likely at least the tacit approval of House leadership.

In other words, Democrats can make the House vote on the Senate bill and all that’s stopping them from passing it is the opposition of Republican centrists — and all that’s stopping those centrists from voting with the Dems is Boehner’s opposition. Boehner could wink at them, freeing them to vote with Pelosi, and then tell grassroots conservatives, “Hey, I tried to block DHS funding but that Nancy Pelosi sure is clever.”

Here’s Jordan on CNN yesterday getting a lecture on “civics” from Dana Bash, which is her way of saying that when Congress is deadlocked, Republicans should bow to Democrats. At least when there’s a phony limited partial DHS shutdown at stake.


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Boehner won’t quit, he’ll cry about it, he won’t quit. More is the pity.

Ukiah on March 2, 2015 at 2:48 PM

The standing positions of the left are….

When it’s a minority GOP and a majority Democrat – the GOP must surrender to the Democrats.

When it’s a tie between the GOP and Democrats – the GOP must surrender to the Democrats.

When it’s a majority GOP and a minority Democrat – the GOP must surrender to the Democrats.

And throughout it all, the Vichy Republicans in the leadership will remind us that…

…if they don’t control any part of Congress or the WH, it’s not the hill to fight on and they need to go along to get along….

…if they control only one part of Congress and not the WH, they need to get control of Congress – but it’s still not the hill to fight on and they need to go along to get along…

…if they control both parts of Congress and not the WH, they need to win the WH to do anything – and it’s still not the hill to fight on and they need to surrender in order to go along to get along…

…if they control both parts of Congress and the WH, it’s still not the hill to fight on and they need to go along to get along with the opposition.

Athos on March 2, 2015 at 2:54 PM

More GOP infighting. I like it.
Ned Pepper on July 18, 2014 at 12:46 PM

Schadenfreude on March 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM

Here’s Jordan on CNN yesterday getting a lecture on “civics” from Dana Bash

That’s like getting ISO-employment advice from Harp, the one Bobbsey Twit at State.

Schadenfreude on March 2, 2015 at 3:03 PM

House Freedom Caucus chair Jim Jordan: No, we’re not trying to oust Boehner as Speaker

Why not? Don’t be a pu$$y, do whats right for your country.

bernzright777 on March 2, 2015 at 3:03 PM

Recall how obama’care’ was passed?

Fruck you, Bash, not in a good way.

Extraterrestrials, if you visit, the Ds won in Nov., in a landslide. The dummy Rs are just true to their constant state.

Schadenfreude on March 2, 2015 at 3:08 PM

Why NOT ???

Nat George on March 2, 2015 at 3:22 PM

Jim Jordan: No, we’re not trying to oust Boehner as Speaker

Why the hell not??

bofh on March 2, 2015 at 3:39 PM

These liberal’s sure suck don’t they!

hardrock230 on March 2, 2015 at 3:41 PM

Then the so-called “freedom caucus” is a fraud.

ConstantineXI on March 2, 2015 at 3:43 PM

Freedom Caucus???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
and then after a breath AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,

These republicans are worth less a pile of Possum cheeeet out behind the shed.

PappyD61 on March 2, 2015 at 4:16 PM

These republicans are worth less than a ____________.

I know, I know you could fill in the blank all day.

PappyD61 on March 2, 2015 at 4:18 PM

House Freedom Caucus chair Jim Jordan: No, we’re not trying to oust Boehner as Speaker

Precisely why the f*ck not?

Midas on March 2, 2015 at 4:21 PM

In other words, Democrats can make the House vote on the Senate bill and all that’s stopping them from passing it is the opposition of Republican centrists — and all that’s stopping those centrists from voting with the Dems is Boehner’s opposition. Boehner could wink at them, freeing them to vote with Pelosi, and then tell grassroots conservatives, “Hey, I tried to block DHS funding but that Nancy Pelosi sure is clever.”


Let’s remind everyone that tying the defunding of the Executive action on immigration to DHS funding was the “stategery” of John Boehner.

Now the GOPe-media (they have a MUCH nicer set of knee pads than the liberal MSM thanks to the GOPe Donor Class) comes along saying, “We are shocked … SHOCKED to discover that NO ONE except a few ‘fringe elements’ are willing to strap on the suicide vest and vote to ‘shut down’ DHS!”

If the GOPe-media had the LEAST interest (including EVERY editor at Hot Air) in having ANY successes legislatively in the next TWO years – THEY would be howling for John Boehner to resign for this political malpractice he literally FORCED his caucus to support.

Kind of telling that NONE of them are doing so …isn’t it?

PolAgnostic on March 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM

Sit down, you’re rockin’ the boat…

bofh on March 2, 2015 at 6:10 PM

Where is the lawsuit against the amnesty?

Buddahpundit on March 2, 2015 at 6:51 PM

Where is the lawsuit against the amnesty?

Buddahpundit on March 2, 2015 at 6:51 PM

The same place as the Contempt of Congress charges for Eric holder.
“Lawsuits”..”Contempt charges”..”Perjury”..”Audits”..finger wagging Harumphing sessions“..they mean nothing..unless they are leveled against you..the peasants.

Mimzey on March 2, 2015 at 7:22 PM

Why is everyone fussing over this rule? How is this any better than the same 2 dozen R’s simply joining in with a discharge petition?

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/572557333500313600

Theminesweeper on March 2, 2015 at 8:18 PM

They should be trying to.
But I also understand that you don’t actually want to broadcast if that is what you are trying to do.
If all he is going to do is cave to the dems issue after issue, then he is not up to the task of being the Speaker.

Mushroomlw on March 3, 2015 at 1:35 PM

Lacking other evidence:

Sadly, it is time to install time clocks in the Capitol and Senate chambers in order to make sure our representatives are actually reporting for work.

landlines on March 3, 2015 at 2:50 PM

By voting to fund the President’s executive amnesty program, a court could conclude that they’ve OKed it, and so it’s now legal.

Thanks, Mr. Boener. We really depreciate that.

ReggieA on March 4, 2015 at 5:11 PM