Jeb Bush to CPAC: Yes, I support a path to legalization for illegal immigrants

posted at 7:01 pm on February 27, 2015 by Allahpundit

Seeing some oohing and aahing online this afternoon among political media that Jeb didn’t pander to CPAC’s very conservative crowd on Common Core or immigration (“he stuck to his guns!”), but what would he have gained by doing that? Remember, for all the hype in 2012 that Romney was shifting to the center to run as a technocrat instead of as the culture warrior he ran as in 2008, he was still a fairly doctrinaire righty on most issues, the notable exception of RomneyCare aside. That’s what the “severely conservative” nonsense was all about in his CPAC speech three years ago. That’s also why he was a hard-ass about “self-deportation” as a solution to illegal immigration, a position that he alone seemed to hold among the amnesty-fan donor class from which he hails. (I’m convinced that self-deportation is to Romney 2012 what traditional marriage was to Obama 2008, although we’ll never know for sure.) Romney worried that, with the tea party in ascendance during Obama’s first term, he could win the GOP nomination but be crippled by recalcitrant conservatives who refused to vote for him in the general election. That’s why he insisted on pandering to them, I think — partly because he thought he could grab some righty votes here and there in the primaries as the most obviously electable candidate in the field and partly just to stay on conservatives’ good side so that they’d turn out for him.

Jeb’s coming from a different place. For one thing, there are formidable candidates in the field in Scott Walker and Marco Rubio who are arguably as electable as Bush is and with whom he’ll have to compete for dollars among the country-club set. He doesn’t (yet) have a stranglehold on the business class like Romney did. Bush’s “I won’t pander” shtick has also generated an early animosity among righties that wasn’t quite there for the eager-to-please Romney, who at least seemed like he wanted conservatives to like him. Bush’s aloofness is more Huntsman-esque. And the centrists of the donor class who are bankrolling him love it, of course. They’re sick to death of tea partiers whining about the establishment and they finally have a candidate who’s unapologetic about sharing their views. Furthermore, it was establishmentarians even more than tea partiers who thrived in the 2014 midterms. They have the momentum within the GOP right now, not righties, so why should they tolerate their champion pandering to right-wingers like they did with Mitt?

So here’s Jeb, knowing all of that and having already all but written off conservative votes, wondering what to do with his Q&A at CPAC today. Should he reverse course and start pandering to righties? If he did, we’d laugh at him while his centrist business-minded base would recoil in horror. Or should he stick to his guns, earning a little grudging respect from conservatives that he came onto their turf and refused to pander while impressing establishmentarians that he means what he says about running as a loud-and-proud centrist? It’s a no-brainer. In fact, for all the jokes today about this being Jeb’s moment to show he too is “severely conservative,” Bush was actually trying to do the opposite of what Romney was doing with that speech. Mitt gave that speech because he wanted to prove to CPAC’s audience of grassroots conservatives that he was one of them. Jeb gave today’s Q&A to prove to people who aren’t at CPAC that he’s one of them and not afraid to broadcast that fact at ground zero of the conservative movement. How that ends for him in November 2016 if he’s the nominee, I don’t know. Presumably he thinks it doesn’t matter how much righties dislike him since they’ll inevitably dislike Hillary more. He’s not wrong.

Here he is endorsing a path to legalization for illegals — a position held by every Republican candidate in the field, I hasten to remind you — followed by Laura Ingraham unloading on him in a speech at CPAC earlier this morning. Jeb also said today that he supports traditional marriage. Mark that down for easy reference for the inevitable “he’s evolved” news circa spring 2018. Exit quotation from Ingraham: “The idea that we should conduct any kind of coronation … because 50 rich families decide who will best decide their interests? No way, Jose.”



Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Bmore

There are NO “illegal immigrants”, just illegal aliens/usurpers.

Schadenfreude on February 28, 2015 at 1:27 AM

If Jeb is the GOP nominee for the first time in my adult life I may decide not to bother voting for president.

sherrimae on February 28, 2015 at 2:14 AM

*Gosh, Jeb already knows that forty-seven fifty plus percent of the people will not vote for him.

That is indeed some strange math for someone who wants to win a presidential election.

That’s even better than Romney or worse or something.

*Or maybe he really doesn’t know.

This is all utter foolishness.

Depressing.

Sherman1864 on February 28, 2015 at 5:14 AM

Jeb shouldn’t have been banging his Guanajuato housemaid

TexasJew on February 28, 2015 at 5:28 AM

Jeb and his rather weird wife need to find other occupations.

TexasJew on February 28, 2015 at 5:30 AM

This is not the United States of Bush.

It is an insult to the republic to even write anything about this traitor.

He should be shunned.

Salem is “Bought and Paid For.”

Jayrae on February 28, 2015 at 6:09 AM

Jeb should become Hillary’s running mate.

rplat on February 28, 2015 at 6:35 AM

Why are the people going through the immigration process & have payed thousands are not the story? We never hear in the news of from politicians about the ones following the law.

RdLake on February 28, 2015 at 7:02 AM

first, self deportation works.

second, why do they get to be citizens with full voting rights after breaking the law? if you want to allow them to stay legally, then grant them the same status as felons, where they can’t vote or own firearms.

bloghooligan on February 28, 2015 at 7:08 AM

Presumably he thinks it doesn’t matter how much righties dislike him since they’ll inevitably dislike Hillary more. He’s not wrong.

He’s not wrong? Maybe not in the bar where you socialize. He is in my swing county in Ohio. Our Tea Party will encourage a blank vote I’m nearly positive. Me, I’ll vote for Hillary to send a message. Go ahead, GOP. Make my day.

catsmeow on February 28, 2015 at 8:04 AM

He bussed in fake supporters to drown out the boos, he will need fake voters as well.

Redstone on February 28, 2015 at 8:25 AM

Won’t vote for Bush or Killary but will write in a conservative name. I’m sick and tired of the Es telling us what’s good for us and buying our candidate. Hope they lose every damn dime they send him.

Kissmygrits on February 28, 2015 at 8:27 AM

“Organized charity itself is the symptom of a malignant social disease…Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant.”~margaret sanger

davidk on February 28, 2015 at 8:33 AM

There are no illegal immigrants . . . there are only illegal aliens that have violated the laws of the United States. The operative word here is “illegal”. Mexico needs to control their citizens and respect our borders. Yes, I know some come from countries other than Mexico but Mexico is the biggest offender. Enough of this crap and enough of these pandering US politicians.

rplat on February 28, 2015 at 8:33 AM

Jeb Bush not only will never be President, if he is forced on America as the GOP nominee, he will cause the party to lose control of the Senate, and possibly the House.

Mark it down. The backlash coming if Jeb Bush is the nominee will be historic.

Does Ross Perot have a kid? Because a third party is coming if we are stuck with Clinton vs Bush.

alecj on February 28, 2015 at 8:33 AM

Your”health” taxes at work:

• For these reasons, reducing the unintended pregnancy rate is a national public health goal. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ Healthy People 2020 campaign aims to reduce unintended pregnancy by 10%, from 49% of pregnancies to 44% of pregnancies, over the next 10 years.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/FB-Unintended-Pregnancy-US.html

davidk on February 28, 2015 at 8:44 AM

Unintended:

Indiana could be the first state to allow use of the baby boxes on a broad scale to prevent dangerous abandonments of infants if the bill, which unanimously passed the House this week, clears the state Senate. Republican state Rep. Casey Cox and child-safety advocates say they’re unaware of any other states that have considered the issue at the level Indiana has.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150227/us–baby_boxes-e57413f2de.html

davidk on February 28, 2015 at 8:50 AM

In a surprise speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) unloaded on former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush—systematically dismantling Bush’s push for amnesty and a massive increase in guest workers from around the world.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/27/sessions-vs-jeb-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-gop/

davidk on February 28, 2015 at 8:53 AM

Gripeon,
He makes a$$ holes like you crawl back under your nasty slimy rocks.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 27, 2015 at 7:14 PM

This, and these are the types who sound like they’d want a conservative dictator “rolling things back” instead of the current ugly brain-dead, little pos fascist “lib” version “rolling things, er, Forward“. -Doesn’t help any worthwhile cause to blame someone who can’t fly for not jumping off a cliff. Grippe-on, save the cute one liners for moments when they have substance and are relevant.

RL on February 28, 2015 at 8:55 AM

Presumably he thinks it doesn’t matter how much righties dislike him since they’ll inevitably dislike Hillary more. He’s not wrong.

He is wrong. Normally you would be correct but what do you call a person who does the same thing every time and expect a different result? Too many times I’ve voted for the lesser evil but not this time.

If Bush is nominated, I will not vote for a Presidential candidate. I’ll vote in down races but not for a President. and I hope millions of conservatives feel the same. If a massive drop off in turnout can be shown because of the candidate, maybe they’ll get the message.

Vince on February 28, 2015 at 9:24 AM

I’ve decided how I’m going to vote in 2016 if any of the following win the Republican nomination:

Jeb: Actively work against him and eventually vote for Hillary. Weep with joy when he’s eventually shellacked come the election.

Rubio: Vote Libertarian

Huckabee or Christie: Stay home

Cruz, Jindal, Carson: Proudly vote Republican, and if I think they have a half-decent chance, I will donate money to and work for any of these.

Scott Walker: Donate money and time and proudly vote Republican.

As I’ve said before, running mates will have absolutely no effect on my support. None. Jeb could run with Sarah Palin or Thomas Sowell and he still wouldn’t appeal to me. On the other hand, Walker could run with Joe Biden and I’d support him just as much.

Jeb, like Sarah Palin, is a polarizing figure. Judging from comments I’ve read, there’s a great deal of visceral dislike of the man. That’s comforting, but I’m sort of sorry that people don’t hate Rubio the same way, because I’m worried he’ll be a dark horse that sneaks in eventually when the moneyed class realizes Jeb isn’t going to work. Fox New pundits (and Noah Roth) are supporting Rubio, and that should be a flashing red warning light right from the start.

Burke on February 28, 2015 at 9:45 AM

This, and these are the types who sound like they’d want a conservative dictator “rolling things back” instead of the current ugly brain-dead, little pos fascist “lib” version “rolling things, er, Forward“. -Doesn’t help any worthwhile cause to blame someone who can’t fly for not jumping off a cliff. Grippe-on, save the cute one liners for moments when they have substance and are relevant.

RL on February 28, 2015 at 8:55 AM

Then I’d ask, if Cruz can’t do anything to roll back government, why are some of you so enamored of him? If you can’t tell me what he has done to make government smaller, you should be able to at least tell me what he will do. And you don’t even know that!

gryphon202 on February 28, 2015 at 9:47 AM

So Burke, here’s the deal. I’m only registered as republican in Colorado so I can participate in the primary process. Agree with all your non-Jeb choices, HOWEVER, voting for that skank Hillary is off the mark. Vote third party or skip that part of your ballot, please.

My top three are Walker, Cruz, and Paul. Will never vote for Jeb. I volunteered for the Weld County Republicans last fall and plan to communicate to them that if he’s nominated, I will still come in and work the phones, but NOT for that turd.

Sarah Palin…I’ll white knight for her any day, any time. Love that woman!

darthvegas on February 28, 2015 at 9:54 AM

Peggy Noonan wrote a particularly good piece on Jeb Bush. She compared his candidacy to a hostile takeover. Instead of appealing to the Republican base he’s trying to gather up all the big donors, which will essentially starve all the other candidates out.

As much as I detest the Democrats at this point I’m not voting for Jeb Effing Bush.

claudius on February 28, 2015 at 9:57 AM

He bussed in fake supporters to drown out the boos, he will need fake voters as well.

Redstone on February 28, 2015 at 8:25 AM

Hmmm…sounds kinda like how the WI Unions bussed in Dems from Chicago to vote against Walker…

leftamark on February 28, 2015 at 9:59 AM

It’s difficult for me to understand the nastiness of tone and substance that Allahpundit uses and inspires in some commenters. I am conservative and I always vote Republican. I also work with in an industry where there are many hard-working illegals. Would that more of our native-born were willing to work this hard instead of whining about the lack of work and jobs! In California, I remember, Pete Wilson as governor promoted this kind of fierce opposition to the illegals. So California is now solidly blue. By contrast, both George W. and Jeb have treated the immigration issue with pragmatic compassion and good sense: In both Texas and Florida, Republicans are more than viable. The bottom line is: Rush is dead wrong about the impact of Hispanic immigration on Republican electoral chances, and the campaigns by Allahpundit, Ingraham and others are only playing into the hands of the Democrats.

foredeck on February 28, 2015 at 10:06 AM

He bussed in fake supporters to drown out the boos, he will need fake voters as well.

Redstone on February 28, 2015 at 8:25 AM

Hmmm…sounds kinda like how the WI Unions bussed in Dems from Chicago to vote against Walker…

leftamark on February 28, 2015 at 9:59 AM

Well, you know, libs are all about busing.

davidk on February 28, 2015 at 10:06 AM

Great news if Crown Prince Jeb of the House of Bush wants to be elected President of the North American Union or Meximerica……but he would be a FREAKING DISASTER for what’s left of a sovereign United States of America.

CPAC audience members should have walked out en masse at the presence of the most anti-American “republican” to grace that stage.

He is an enemy of the rights of American citizens.

NO MORE BUSHES EVER!

PappyD61 on February 28, 2015 at 10:12 AM

You don’t reward Lawlessness! Either from an Un-American President or people breaching our border to invade the United States.

Nat George on February 28, 2015 at 10:12 AM

You don’t reward Lawlessness! Either from an Un-American President or people breaching our border to invade the United States.

Nat George on February 28, 2015 at 10:12 AM

You shouldn’t reward lawlesness. Except that we do. Obama’s re-election in ’12 is proof enough of that.

gryphon202 on February 28, 2015 at 10:15 AM

With the exception of a friend who was running for re-election as auditor, every candidate I have donated to or worked for has lost.

I have decided to try to capitalize on this by sending $1 to candidates I hope will lose. My first batch is going out to Jeb, Chris and Mike.

We’ll see if they can work their magic.

talkingpoints on February 28, 2015 at 10:24 AM

And Scott Walker is just a younger and bit more forceful version of Crown Prince Jeb.

Sure McCains camp supposedly doesn’t like Scotty (and that’s a plus in my book) but Walker is very comfy with Amnesty and bigger government.

NO NO NO.

PappyD61 on February 28, 2015 at 10:26 AM

talking points, I like that idea. Send $1.00 to every big gov loving Progressive republican and they will send you mail FOR YEARS, and more than spend that $1.00 trying to get more…..

….and they will sell their mailing lists to like minded other politicians.

Then when you get their mail send it back if they have a postage paid envelope and remove all identifying markings……and tell them in a red sharpie what you REALLY THINK.

Muck up the works.

Boom Shakalaka for Freedom!

PappyD61 on February 28, 2015 at 10:31 AM

Jeb, like Sarah Palin, is a polarizing figure.

Burke on February 28, 2015 at 9:45 AM

At least it would be fun to spend an hour with Sarah Palin. Spending an hour with Jeb would be hell on earth. What would you talk about other than immigration?

bw222 on February 28, 2015 at 10:40 AM

RL on February 28, 2015 at 8:55 AM
Then I’d ask, if Cruz can’t do anything to roll back government, why are some of you so enamored of him? If you can’t tell me what he has done to make government smaller, you should be able to at least tell me what he will do. And you don’t even know that!

gryphon202 on February 28, 2015 at 9:47 AM

No, and no. You’re not staying on topic, and you argued irrelevancies without any meaningful connections, and you continue with silly attempts to argue non-existent mind reading silliness. The words, “like” or “enamored” never came up in any of these exchanges except in your fantasies. The accurate/strong> response was simply that Cruz does make people uncomfortable with the truth, and that your con-mments were and remain irrelevant in their silly presumptions about what one person can do to suit your fantasies…

RL on February 28, 2015 at 10:51 AM

Burke on February 28, 2015 at 9:45 AM

Don’t stay at home; don’t vote for the dhimmicRAT.

If the GOPe candidate becomes the nominee, write in a conservative name. If millions of voters would do that, I think that reinforce our message more solidly.

Polarizing is not necessarily a bat thing. Re. Sarah Palin: wouldn’t her polarization, assuming the polarizing she would cause, result in a solid conservative win?

I don’t know the answer to that. I think her current role as conservative gadfly is effective in keeping the conservative base engaged. She would surely find a prominent role in the administration of a conservative POTUS.

She has garnered a large amount of political capital with her endorsements of various candidates. That will be invaluable in the future.

davidk on February 28, 2015 at 10:55 AM

Immigration:
“There is no plan to deport 11 million people, so let’s give them amnesty.” -says Bush

Drunk Driving:
“There is no plan to arrest 75 million people, so let’s give them amnesty.” -says Nobody

Sexual Assault:
“There is no plan to arrest 0.3 million people, so let’s give them amnesty.” -says Nobody

Drug Dealing:
“There is no plan to arrest 3.2 million people, so let’s give them amnesty.” -says Nobody

Shop Lifting:
“There is no plan to arrest 27 million people, so let’s give them amnesty.” -says Nobody

Domestic Violence:
“There is no plan to arrest 2.1 million people, so let’s give them amnesty.” -says Nobody

Daryl on February 28, 2015 at 10:57 AM

sherrimae on February 28, 2015 at 2:14 AM

Write in someone else’s name.

He should run as a democrat. That’s what he is. I am finished voting for RINOs.

dogsoldier on February 28, 2015 at 11:00 AM

No, and no. You’re not staying on topic, and you argued irrelevancies without any meaningful connections, and you continue with silly attempts to argue non-existent mind reading silliness. The words, “like” or “enamored” never came up in any of these exchanges except in your fantasies. The accurate/strong> response was simply that Cruz does make people uncomfortable with the truth, and that your con-mments were and remain irrelevant in their silly presumptions about what one person can do to suit your fantasies…

RL on February 28, 2015 at 10:51 AM

And I’ve never accused Cruz of lying. What I’ve asked commenters here, and what I’ve never gotten a response to, is what Cruz has done to make me more free. So what is it? What has he done to make government smaller? I’m not questioning Ted Cruz’s motives out of hand. I’m asking you why you like him so much when you’re no more free today than you were before Cruz sailed into congress. And you take that as a personal attack towards Cruz. Politicians gonna politic, I guess.

And as for this off-topic line of posts, you quoted APACHEWHOBLOWS from upthread, and he was the first to bring up Cruz in this thread in the very second post:

Cruz telling the truth sure makes a lot of people uncomfortable.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 27, 2015 at 7:05 PM

So don’t even blame me.

gryphon202 on February 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM

So Burke, here’s the deal. I’m only registered as republican in Colorado so I can participate in the primary process. Agree with all your non-Jeb choices, HOWEVER, voting for that skank Hillary is off the mark. Vote third party or skip that part of your ballot, please.

darthvegas on February 28, 2015 at 9:54 AM

It sounds like you have good sense, and I’ll consider your advice. Certainly I agree that Hillary is detestable.

Symbolic votes (like voting for Hillary, voting Libertarian or not voting at all) can be misinterpreted. A vote for Hillary might be interpreted in Hillary’s favor. A vote for Libertarians might be interpreted as a clueless millennial’s support for amnesty and more pot, as if that’s what it will take to save our country. Staying home and not voting can be interpreted as simply general apathy. Somehow I want to communicate my anger towards Jeb and Thad Cochran types, and I want the message to be clear.

Burke on February 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM

It sounds like you have good sense, and I’ll consider your advice. Certainly I agree that Hillary is detestable.

Symbolic votes (like voting for Hillary, voting Libertarian or not voting at all) can be misinterpreted. A vote for Hillary might be interpreted in Hillary’s favor. A vote for Libertarians might be interpreted as a clueless millennial’s support for amnesty and more pot, as if that’s what it will take to save our country. Staying home and not voting can be interpreted as simply general apathy. Somehow I want to communicate my anger towards Jeb and Thad Cochran types, and I want the message to be clear.

Burke on February 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM

Giving a broken system sanction by participating in it isn’t going to change it. If there’s one thing incumbent politicians know how to do, it’s how to hold on to power despite the increasing number of gadflies present in the body-politic.

gryphon202 on February 28, 2015 at 11:13 AM

folks, WRITE IN the name JEFF SESSIONS in ALL ELECTIONS,

for ALL OFFICES.

that is the ONLY WAY that the GOPe will get the message about illegal aliens

the GOPe is just Demoncrap lite, just lefty RINOs, and look what they have done after you gave them the big majorities they asked for. They sold you out, and they backstabbed you, and they lied to you. Enough is enough.

Senator Philip Bluster on February 28, 2015 at 11:59 AM

So the Republicans elite establishment wants to be bush whacked a third time. But this time conservatives realize that trading Obamamerica for Hillamerica has no difference.
So they know it wont make a difference and will stay home if another lying spineless Bush is ran for President. Bush 41 lied about taxes, Bush 43 Lied about being a conservative and used weasel words to cover it up. We already know that Jeb Bush is not a conservative but an American hating liberal common core, open borders bring in all the Hispanic killers and murders and never forget what he said about Republicans:

Bush said in 2013. “Republicans are anti-immigrant, anti-woman, anti-science, anti-gay, anti-worker, and the list goes on.”.

Yeah, this guy would be great for the party!

pwb on February 28, 2015 at 12:00 PM

What the heck is Jeb doing at CPAC?
I’ll never vote for Jeb. As President he will try to push amnesty through just like George tried. I’m tired of fighting Republican Presidents who want to flood our workforce with illegal aliens. Bush fought his war on terror without even securing our borders. We were told it wasn’t possible, while at the same time we were trying to secure Iraq’s borders. Now we have allowed Islamic extremists to enter the country illegally and they are waiting for their new citizenship cards. At least George seemed like a good guy, just had some bad ideas. Jeb doesn’t even come across as likeable. No way Jose indeed! I won’t vote for Hillary, but I will write in my own choice for President before I’ll vote for Bush.

Bush – Clinton The Sequel doesn’t interest me at all

Ibanez Lotus on February 28, 2015 at 12:16 PM

Remember, for all the hype in 2012 that Romney was shifting to the center to run as a technocrat instead of as the culture warrior he ran as in 2008, he was still a fairly doctrinaire righty on most issues, the notable exception of RomneyCare aside. That’s what the “severely conservative” nonsense was all about in his CPAC speech three years ago.

Allahpundit’s analysis is in error since RomneyCare was a conservative idea. The idea originally came from the Heritage Foundation as an alternative to HillaryCare during the Clinton Administration.

Romney invited the Heritage Foundation to assist him in implementing the plan and the plan was mostly implemented because there were some additional measures that the Democratic legislature inserted into the bill. Romney tried to veto those additions but got overridden by the democratic legislature.

Obama, falsely claimed that he got the idea of ObamaCare, but he really stole the idea for his health care plan from Hillary Clinton. As a result, Obama did not use RomneycCare as a template for RomneyCare.

However, Obama used the lie that he got the idea for ObamaCare from RomneyCare as a way to alienate Conservative voters from Romney. Those who refused to vote for Mitt based Obama’s lie were fooled into opposing Romney. You fell right into his game of dividing the GOP in order to get reelected.

This lie keeps being parroted by conservatives like Allahpundit and others who still don’t see that they played right into Obama’s strategy. Good job, guys!

Conservative Samizdat on February 28, 2015 at 1:45 PM

I have no idea why all of you conservatives are so upaet that Jeb Boosh is a fkg. liberal. His father was a fkg. blueblood NE lib. who hated conservatives, and his brother was a lying POS liberal as well. Liberalism runs in the BOOSH family. Damn, conservatives are so easily fooled by words, yet never hold anyt of the liars accountable. No wonder Jeb thinks you conservatives will vote for him no matter how much he disses on you. History shows that you will. I will never vote for another lying SOB pub. again. I voted for the SOB’s for over 40 yrs. and we are no better off for my having dissed my votes away on them. I don’t trust a damn one of them. Look at how many have claimed to be conservative and once they get elected, they screw us.

they lie on February 28, 2015 at 2:32 PM

they lie on February 28, 2015 at 2:32 PM

They’re not conservatives. Quit calling them that.

Same, the leftist thugs are not classically liberal, and never progressive.

Schadenfreude on February 28, 2015 at 3:26 PM

Removals or Deportations are not prosecutions. Thus, the term prosecutorial discretion does not apply.

Removals or Deportations are administrative hearings. Therefore there is no danger that the person subject to a deportation hearing will be convicted and sent to prison. That is what happens in a criminal prosecution.

In an administrative removal/deportation hearing the person is either found removable from the US or is found not removable from the US.

So when Immigration enforcement officers or told not prosecute aliens that should not prevent them from administratively removing them if the alien is found removable from the US by an immigration judge. Why? Because deportations are administrative actions and not criminal prosecutions. Meaning prosecutorial discretion is not applicable to administrative removal/deportation hearings.

Buckshots on February 28, 2015 at 3:48 PM

You would think we have never allowed immigration by the way they talk.
Well…I have news. We have a system.
They want to write new laws when they don’t even use the old ones.
So, what will a new law do for us that the old one isn’t doing?
I don’t know. I can’t see it getting much worse.
But if anybody could figure out how to make it worse… it would be our government.
What we really need here is a path to Deportation !
I will just call it enforcement.

Snowshooze on February 28, 2015 at 3:48 PM

I expect the next poll to show Bush in the mid single digits. I also expect the establishment to keep throwing money at him as if he would ever have a chance to win the nomination. As much as I despise Democrats, they are politically much smarter than Republicans.

cajunpatriot on February 28, 2015 at 4:40 PM

“There is no plan to deport 11 million people.”

But there are all kinds of plans to give those same 11 million people $35k signing bonuses and green cards.

There are plans to subjugate 350MM Americans and force them on to a highly unpopular “health plan”.

There are plans to totally take over the internet, to have the IRS oppress tends of millions of taxpayers, to comprehensively monitor everyone’s emails, texts, social media postings and phone calls.

How can this government be so omniscient and omnipotent when it comes to tyrannizing Americans, so exacting to hit the same address in Atlanta 23,994 times to deliver over $46MM in “tax refunds” to illegal aliens, and fully capable of dictating what we can eat, what we can say, and what we can own?

Reuben Hick on February 28, 2015 at 5:18 PM

From now on he should be called Jeb Bus.

Redstone on February 28, 2015 at 5:22 PM

Reuben Hick on February 28, 2015 at 5:18 PM

End the thread. Nothing more to say!!!Brillant!!!!

they lie on February 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM

We don’t need to deport 11MM people, only one: JEB!

Another Drew on February 28, 2015 at 5:56 PM

Then I’d ask, if Cruz can’t do anything to roll back government, why are some of you so enamored of him? If you can’t tell me what he has done to make government smaller, you should be able to at least tell me what he will do. And you don’t even know that!

gryphon202 on February 28, 2015 at 9:47 AM

If nobody tries to fight back it will never get done. He has few allies among the surrender monkey wing of the GOP so nothing can get done. As we work to elect more of his type or get a Conservative President, he will be more effective, but not a whole lot of GOPers are even trying to stop Obama’s agenda so all he can do is his best. That’s why I like him and those like Lee and Sessions also.

Corsair on February 28, 2015 at 7:40 PM

Plane ticket to Mexico City or Guatemala on off peak times is about $400.00 multiplied by 15 mil illegals equals about 6 billion. If you work with the airlines you could get some cheap airfares to Asia and Europe also. It’s certainly cheaper to deport than to keep them.

Corsair on February 28, 2015 at 7:45 PM

Probably the backers know that they can park their dollars with Bush for now until they can see a better alternative. He should have changed his name to “Garcia” – half of the voters would never figure that out – that’s what Democrats do to purge their ugly biographies.

Agree with others who say he has less of a chance than Romney – all he had to do was light up the conservative base and we wouldn’t be having this sorry conversation. But he refused. Bush shows even less affinity for conservatives. So, it’s over for him. Let’s just not take too long figuring it out.

Remaining risks to any future republican presidency: Boehner, McConnell and Priebus…

virgo on February 28, 2015 at 9:09 PM

3rd party or bust.

NotBush/NotClinton 2016

S. D. on February 28, 2015 at 10:50 PM

Polarizing is not necessarily a bad thing. Re. Sarah Palin: wouldn’t her polarization, assuming the polarizing she would cause, result in a solid conservative win?

davidk on February 28, 2015 at 10:55 AM

Personally, I think Palin would make a superb President. However, I don’t think if she ran she would win. It’s true that conservatives would come out in droves to elect her, but this would be counterbalanced by even more liberals and moderates–mainly women–who hate her and I suspect would show up in even greater numbers just to make sure at all costs she’d suffer a humiliating defeat.

In any case, my point in the remark that I made above about Jeb being polarizing wasn’t to make a new observation about Palin. Everyone already knows Palin is polarizing. My point was to point out that Jeb is polarizing in the same way. There are some–like me, for example–who would battle a snowstorm just to make sure Jeb would lose miserably. I think Corporate Chamber-of-Commerce Republicans who are supporting Jeb are underestimating the fantastic negative energy Jeb produces. Like I said: he’s polarizing.

Burke on March 1, 2015 at 1:57 AM

“There is no plan to deport 11 million…” Well, then how about a plan to deport MOST of them.

Fleuries on March 1, 2015 at 2:17 PM

Adios, Jeb!

tomshup on March 1, 2015 at 2:25 PM

Let them always worry they may have to go back. It is the best answer. Nail their employers fiercely with big fines–jail etc, and the motive will disappear.

Don L on March 1, 2015 at 3:10 PM

I don’t give a rat’s ass who is on the Democratic side.

If this turd is the GOP nominee for president, I’m NOT going to vote at all.

Nineball on March 2, 2015 at 9:38 AM

This thread’s extreme antipathy towards Jeb is encouraging. I think we need somebody new and fresher, and plus, I think he’d lose to Hillary.

The Bringer on March 2, 2015 at 9:48 AM