Lawless: Treasury throws unauthorized $3 billion to insurers under Obamacare, won’t say why

posted at 8:01 pm on February 26, 2015 by Noah Rothman

It’s right there in the Constitution: “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”

Which is why this latest episode of lawlessness from the administration is so particularly galling. “The U.S. Treasury Department has rebuffed a request by House Ways and Means Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan, R- Wis., to explain $3 billion in payments that were made to health insurers even though Congress never authorized the spending through annual appropriations,” The Washington Examiner’s Philp Klein reported on Thursday.

That’s right. The payments insurers receive, dubbed “cost –sharing subsidies,” are designed to offset the costs incurred when they pick up the out-of-pocket expenses for low-income individuals covered by Affordable Care Act plans. If insurers had to cover these costs themselves, Obamacare would be infeasible. So, the federal government picks up the tab for the newly insured as they go about receiving “free” health care.

There’s just one tiny, unconstitutional problem: Congress never authorized the distribution of those funds. “[B]ut the Department of Health and Human Services, with the cooperation of the U.S. Treasury, made them anyway,” Klein reported.

In a Feb. 3 letter to Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, Ryan, along with House Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich., asked for “a full explanation for, and all documents relating to” the administration’s decision to make the cost-sharing payments without congressional authorization.

In response, on Wednesday, the Treasury Department sent a letter to Ryan largely describing the program, without offering a detailed explanation of the decision to make the payments. The letter revealed that $2.997 billion in such payments had been made in 2014, but didn’t elaborate on where the money came from. Over the next decade, cost-sharing payments to insurers are projected by the Congressional Budget Office to cost taxpayers nearly $150 billion.

Click through to Klein’s report and read the whole thing. This pattern of behavior from administration officials is staggering in its lawlessness and sets a dangerous precedent.

“A second grader knows that only Congress can appropriate funds. And even though CMS apparently agrees with that, the managers at HHS don’t,” The American Thinker’s Rick Moran opined. “Unfortunately, unless both the House and Senate order the insurance companies to return the funds – and President Obama signs the bill – HHS is going to get away with this.”

Apparently, this cost-sharing scheme is one of the issues that is raised in the House GOP’s lawsuit against the White House over the myriad ways in which the administration has bent the law in order, they claim, to enforce it. But the outrage over this incident, or even reportage on it, is limited exclusively to Republican outlets.

One of the better arguments for repeal of the Affordable Care Act is the fact that this law has inured the public to anarchy. The public increasingly believes, and a plurality of Democrats are apparently convinced, that laws passed by Congress should be malleable enough so that the executive branch is not burdened by the dictates of the co-equal and representative legislative branch. What have we gotten ourselves into?


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When you have a Republican party that’s motto is, “Run Away!” all this bitching and moaning is sound and fury signifying nothing.

We need to get Republicans in office who are willing to fight. Until then, keep bitching and moaning, Noah. Tell us how that works out.

Baggi on February 26, 2015 at 10:32 PM

And tlaloc has a small knight!!!!

elvis lives on February 26, 2015 at 10:34 PM

“A second grader knows that only Congress can appropriate funds. And even though CMS apparently agrees with that, the managers at HHS don’t,” The American Thinker’s Rick Moran opined. “Unfortunately, unless both the House and Senate order the insurance companies to return the funds – and President Obama signs the bill – HHS is going to get away with this.”

So, wait… a few bureaucrats can give some dudes 3billion dollars ,tax payer monies, on a whim, without seeking proper authorization, and no one goes to jail. Ok, then. F this. What’s the point of pretending. It’s here. It’s changed. Fundamentally changed. We lose.

BoxHead1 on February 26, 2015 at 11:02 PM

“Whats it going to take to impeach this a-hole”???….. A live boy or a dead girl.
elvis lives on February 26, 2015 at 10:30 PM

He could rape, kill both then consume their livers with some fava beans and a nice Chianti on live TV and those with the authority and duty to do something would find 535 reasons not to.

LegendHasIt on February 26, 2015 at 11:03 PM

.. Fundamentally changed. We lose.
BoxHead1 on February 26, 2015 at 11:02 PM

He told everyone he was going to do that, in advance.

Y’all shoulda believed him.
I did.

LegendHasIt on February 26, 2015 at 11:05 PM

BoxHead1 on February 26, 2015 at 11:02 PM

It’s not over yet, we’re not China at this point.

Bishop on February 26, 2015 at 11:06 PM

Back in 1980 we gave Lee Iacocca of Chrysler a 1.5 billion dollar loan to keep him in business. We took 6billion of his in collateral.

This was very controversial. It passed easily but there were 160+house and 43 senate that voted against it. It was very very controversial. And remember they put up 6billion collateral and it was JUST A LOAN.

Fast forward to 2015 and some unnamed people transferred 3billion to some companies and it’s not controversial. No one even votes or notes it(except on the wingnut sites).

Think about this; People always talk about progress from generation to generation. Young people and lots of old people just assume things get more civilized and “smart”. New is better.

But contrast the way the populace reacted to a 1.5 billion dollar loan in 1980 to the empty headed no knownothingism of today. The people in 1980 must have been more awake, constructive, smart, literate, analytical, thrifty, independent… than the people of today. How else can you explain the change?
The drugs or the schools or the position of the earth… something has changed.

BoxHead1 on February 26, 2015 at 11:17 PM

sorry for the rambling rant. I don’t know why this story set me off.

BoxHead1 on February 26, 2015 at 11:23 PM

sorry for the rambling rant. I don’t know why this story set me off.
BoxHead1 on February 26, 2015 at 11:23 PM

Actually, that was a very good reminder and analysis.
Thank you.

LegendHasIt on February 26, 2015 at 11:26 PM

He told everyone he was going to do that, in advance.

Y’all shoulda believed him.
I did.

LegendHasIt on February 26, 2015 at 11:05 PM

I always thought he was some weird marxist and he’d do damage but I thought there would be a backlash. I didn’t think he’d get far. I didn’t think the republicans would fall as far as they have. I am surprised.

also, thanks.

BoxHead1 on February 26, 2015 at 11:34 PM

Essentially, the administration STOLE $3 BILLION FROM THE TREASURY AND GAVE IT TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. Period.

n0doz on February 26, 2015 at 11:34 PM

Yet, this is not including all the millions they supposedly gave to the people who were supposed to be building and fixing Healthcare.gov.

I shudder to think exactly how much was stolen and wasted with ACA/Obamacare alone.

DevilishSoda on February 27, 2015 at 12:30 AM

Plunder.

Kenosha Kid on February 27, 2015 at 12:43 AM

Yet, this is not including all the millions they supposedly gave to the people who were supposed to be building and fixing Healthcare.gov.

I shudder to think exactly how much was stolen and wasted with ACA/Obamacare alone.

DevilishSoda on February 27, 2015 at 12:30 AM

I always thought that this was another great reason that free market capitalism was the best system.

Just how long do you think a socialist/communist utopia could be bled like this?

Mr Soames on February 27, 2015 at 1:32 AM

So all you need to do is answer the original question: Where does the Treasury get such authority?

Bishop on February 26, 2015 at 10:17 PM

“Authority? We don’ need no stinkin’ authority …” — El Banditos De Treasury

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on February 27, 2015 at 2:12 AM

I’ll wait for reporting on the situation from people not paid to hyperventilate.

Tlaloc on February 26, 2015 at 9:55 PM

while you’re there wipe the Obama off your chin

Younggod on February 27, 2015 at 3:35 AM

This is what happens when you have a lazy Congress that cedes power to the Executive Branch instead of actually legislating.

Congress is the one that has given the power to the Executive Branch. The Executive Branch didn’t steal it.

ButterflyDragon on February 27, 2015 at 4:51 AM

Can’t congress impeach the head of HHS and the Treasury a department

MoreLiberty on February 27, 2015 at 6:13 AM

They don’t have to impeach, just bring up articles of impeachment to discuss the theft of 3 billion from the taxpayers. The issue that would really sting him – especially in his party – is he have the money to big insurance.

MoreLiberty on February 27, 2015 at 6:19 AM

In a dictatorship the people are irrelevant and that’s the case with this Obama gaggle.You have nothing to say about where your money goes or the other policies that govern your life. You liberals and leftists created this mess, now live with it.

rplat on February 27, 2015 at 7:15 AM

Essentially, the administration STOLE $3 BILLION FROM THE TREASURY AND GAVE IT TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. Period.

Exactly this. This administration is (with the help of congress) systematically looting the treasury. Remember all of the money given to “greeen” companies? I cannot for the life of me understand why this isn’t getting more attention.

tnjeff on February 27, 2015 at 7:47 AM

Does anyone know which insurance companies and how much? I want a refund from BCBS-IL.

Nutstuyu on February 27, 2015 at 8:41 AM

Back in 1980 we gave Lee Iacocca of Chrysler a 1.5 billion dollar loan to keep him in business. We took 6billion of his in collateral.

This was very controversial. It passed easily but there were 160+house and 43 senate that voted against it. It was very very controversial. And remember they put up 6billion collateral and it was JUST A LOAN.

Fast forward to 2015 and some unnamed people transferred 3billion to some companies and it’s not controversial. No one even votes or notes it(except on the wingnut sites).

Think about this; People always talk about progress from generation to generation. Young people and lots of old people just assume things get more civilized and “smart”. New is better.

But contrast the way the populace reacted to a 1.5 billion dollar loan in 1980 to the empty headed no knownothingism of today. The people in 1980 must have been more awake, constructive, smart, literate, analytical, thrifty, independent… than the people of today. How else can you explain the change?
The drugs or the schools or the position of the earth… something has changed.

BoxHead1 on February 26, 2015 at 11:17 PM

Yes, but there is one major difference you aren’t taking into account which drastically changes the situation. Reagan did it because he was a white evil rich guy who only wanted to help his corporate buddies. The Treasury & HHS did it only because they had the greater good in mind and knew the slash and burn congress would never approve it. Completely different you see.

See how much difference it makes to have an R or a D at the end of your name?

txaggie on February 27, 2015 at 8:41 AM

Apparently, this cost-sharing scheme is one of the issues that is raised in the House GOP’s lawsuit against the White House over the myriad ways in which the administration has bent VIOLATED the law in order, they claim, to enforce it.

What have we gotten ourselves into?

What’s this “we” shit…not one GOP voted for it….

PatriotRider on February 27, 2015 at 8:49 AM

I’m sure the GOP and their gutless, pathetic, scumsucking leadership will do absolutely nothing about it.

WisCon on February 27, 2015 at 8:51 AM

we have a black king!

Tlaloc on February 26, 2015 at 9:55 PM

You have an Indonesian marxist traitor.

dominigan on February 27, 2015 at 8:51 AM

In times past societies would call upon it’s MEN to do the deeds required for survival, those males lacking the sand or stomach to do such deeds, were told to sit by the fire with the women.

Today the republic is led by these campfire girls and there are very predictable consequences for this displayed cowardice my friends and countrymen……

nowhiners on February 27, 2015 at 8:53 AM

The Rs are cowering in a cloak room while the world around us is changing so fast they can’t keep up much less do anything about all the law breakers. We should have recognized it was over when Horn dog got away with redefining the definition of the word is.

Kissmygrits on February 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM

Until the bureaucrats are held personally accountable (financially and criminally) for these types of misappropriation of funds, this will never stop.

No one in this administration is ever held accountable, for anything.

whbates on February 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM

Taxpayers demand their money back and want those responsible for this action held responsible.

Amazingoly on February 27, 2015 at 8:56 AM

Pfff it’s only $20 per tax return filed. No one will notice it’s gone. /s

Nutstuyu on February 27, 2015 at 9:05 AM

The slow-motion coup is on schedule, Herr Commandant.

hillbillyjim on February 27, 2015 at 9:07 AM

Taxpayers demand their money back and want those responsible for this action held responsible.

Amazingoly on February 27, 2015 at 8:56 AM

Taxpayers? You mean those awful one percenter rich folks? Nobody likes them anyway. /

ElectricPhase on February 27, 2015 at 9:17 AM

This is what happens when you never ever fight the lawlessness because your establishment politicians are afraid and only care about their own re election. The Republican establishment are nothing more than useless cowards.

magicbeans on February 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM

I can’t even feign outrage anymore, there’s no point…

Pest on February 27, 2015 at 9:48 AM

This is, I fear, well over the head of the low no-info’s. I mean, there’s Scott Walker’s thoughts on Obama’s Christianity and Kim Kardashian’s fat oily behind to obsess about. Racists.

Huckabye-Romney on February 27, 2015 at 10:00 AM

Cue the lib trolls claiming that while this may be not be, strictly speaking “street legal,” the ends justify the means and why do you hate children and minorities so much?

If only we had a loyal opposition party that understands that this is war and would fight back accordingly. All we will get is more impotent grandstanding from Issa and the like.

Huckabye-Romney on February 27, 2015 at 10:05 AM

What is happening to us is beyond the comments we are writing up here. We are so far behind on what is taking place here on our soil by this White House, by the time we will fully comprehend it, it will be too late.

Republicans no matter how corrupt they are, they are in a fog, a kind of sleep as to what is being done to this country. We are past impeachment, because it is so grossly beyond that. The action being effected on the United States are so deeply in play, that even removing Obama from office would not stop what is happening . . . and he knows that.

You have heard of Article 5. not even that could stop the actions that are in play. They would love for us to focus our attention on that, because that would distract us away from the final steps they are implementing. By the time an Article 5 agreement could be ratified it would be too late to be effective. Even our court system moves too slow to stop what is being perpetrated on us.

The depth of this penetration of lawlessness at the top level of our government is mind boggling.

Just understand we have been invaded. Is everything in place? No, not all yet, but so much is in place that I dread that by the time we could effectively elect an opposition President they will not be really in control of our government. Just as the power of Congress has been taken away, the next President may not have enough power to stop what has been installed. This thing is setup on Auto-Pilot to finish the “Fundamental Change of this Country.” A change which this generation will not be able to reverse in it’s lifetime.

Nat George on February 27, 2015 at 10:07 AM

The Republic is dead. Lawlessness is now the rule. Thank you Obummer voters. Thank you very much. I’m retired military, a lawyer and once was a patriot, but these days I ask myself why the hell should I comply with laws? The President doesn’t, the government doesn’t. Why should anyone? Chaos is just around the corner. I hope everyone has a large pile o ammo…

Doomsday on February 27, 2015 at 10:15 AM

The White House only follows the law on days that don’t end in “y.”

Teach me how to Bucky on February 27, 2015 at 10:33 AM

Back in 1980 we gave Lee Iacocca of Chrysler a 1.5 billion dollar loan to keep him in business. We took 6billion of his in collateral.

This was very controversial. It passed easily but there were 160+house and 43 senate that voted against it. It was very very controversial. And remember they put up 6billion collateral and it was JUST A LOAN.

Fast forward to 2015 and some unnamed people transferred 3billion to some companies and it’s not controversial. No one even votes or notes it(except on the wingnut sites).

And that’s only the start of it. There’s a little joke of a weapons program called the F-35 that’s slated to cost over $1 trillion. And neither Dems or Republicans are willing to speak up against a gravy train military program.

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/some-embarrassing-details-from-the-pentagons-latest-stealth-fighter-report-2ef94297330d

bayam on February 27, 2015 at 10:43 AM

If Congress didn’t authorize it, it’s theft.

Who’s going to be arrested today?

Midas on February 27, 2015 at 11:56 AM

Vigilante justice is apparently going to have to make a comeback at some point. This system is both incapable and unwilling to behave or correct itself.

Midas on February 27, 2015 at 12:05 PM

If Congress didn’t authorize it, it’s theft.

Who’s going to be arrested today?

Midas on February 27, 2015 at 11:56 AM

That would take a Department of Justice. We don’t have one of those. A Department of No Justice No Peace, we have. It won’t do.

Axeman on February 27, 2015 at 12:07 PM

You have heard of Article 5. not even that could stop the actions that are in play. They would love for us to focus our attention on that, because that would distract us away from the final steps they are implementing. By the time an Article 5 agreement could be ratified it would be too late to be effective. Even our court system moves too slow to stop what is being perpetrated on us.

I think you’re right. But I do think it would be at least amusing to see how quickly the court would undermine Article V amendments, if not slap them down outright as “Unconstitutional” or out of line with the “emanations and penumbrae” they see when they are really, really stoned.

Axeman on February 27, 2015 at 12:11 PM

One more item in the Articles of Impeachment…
If we had any representatives with ballz, that is.

Dexter_Alarius on February 27, 2015 at 12:26 PM

Cue the lib trolls claiming that while this may be not be, strictly speaking “street legal,” the ends justify the means and why do you hate children and minorities so much?

If only we had a loyal opposition party that understands that this is war and would fight back accordingly. All we will get is more impotent grandstanding from Issa and the like.

Huckabye-Romney on February 27, 2015 at 10:05 AM

Let’s not forget the old woman in the wheelchair Paul Ryan was pushing off the cliff.

Teach me how to Bucky on February 27, 2015 at 12:30 PM

Back in 1980 we gave Lee Iacocca of Chrysler a 1.5 billion dollar loan to keep him in business. We took 6billion of his in collateral.

This was very controversial. It passed easily but there were 160+house and 43 senate that voted against it. It was very very controversial. And remember they put up 6billion collateral and it was JUST A LOAN.

Fast forward to 2015 and some unnamed people transferred 3billion to some companies and it’s not controversial. No one even votes or notes it(except on the wingnut sites).

And that’s only the start of it. There’s a little joke of a weapons program called the F-35 that’s slated to cost over $1 trillion. And neither Dems or Republicans are willing to speak up against a gravy train military program.

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/some-embarrassing-details-from-the-pentagons-latest-stealth-fighter-report-2ef94297330d

bayam on February 27, 2015 at 10:43 AM

The F-35 is so expensive because they’re trying to replace multiple fighter models with a single plane, in a misguided attempt to save,/em> money. It’s an expensive proposition to make one plane that can do everything, so cost overruns are part and parcel of the problem.

I say it’s misguided, because the brand new plane being built at such huge expense will not be as good in their roles as some of the planes it’s replacing. The F-22 is the biggest example of that. It’s a far superior plane to the F-35, but was cancelled in favor of the F-35 to SAVE money.

All new fighter planes are expensive. But if you’re going to whine about how much the F-35 costs, honesty should compel you to subtract from that cost the expense of the planes being replaced. For the F-22 alone, that would be a huge offset.

And national defense is at least a legitimate job of the government, as opposed to the welfare and other social programs that our government has no business spending taxpayer money on. Most of the people whining about how expensive DOD projects just want to take that money and spend it on more social programs and welfare that we can’t afford.

And it’s the entitlement spending that is piling on the debt to our nation, so this concern for the expense of the F-35 reveals a real hypocrisy.

All that said, your complaint is beside the point. The problem with this story about giving 3 billion to insurance companies is not that the money was spent, but that Congress did not authorize the spending!

Which makes this a violation of the Constitution. If the president can spend money that Congress has not authorized, the Congress has lost its single biggest power: the power of the purse.

We let South Vietnam get overrun by North Vietnam in spite of a treaty to support them with air support and funding, for one reason and one reason only: a Democratic Congress after Watergate refused to appropriate the funding for the air support or the foreign aid. That’s the power of the purse.

If you can’t see how wrong that is, and how it makes the president a dictator to be able to ignore the Constitution itself, then you’re just enabling the dictatorship you want, like a good little fascist.

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 27, 2015 at 12:48 PM

And national defense is at least a legitimate job of the government, as opposed to the welfare and other social programs that our government has no business spending taxpayer money on. Most of the people whining about how expensive DOD projects just want to take that money and spend it on more social programs and welfare that we can’t afford.

There Goes the Neighborhood on February 27, 2015 at 12:48 PM

No, it was for protection of the rights of man that governments were instituted. (Locke,et al) So they are just protecting the Dewey “positive rights”. Making war, i.e. the killing–or cancelling the rights–of people who aren’t your citizens is what’s illegitimate.

I don’t buy a lot of that, I’m just saying…

Axeman on February 27, 2015 at 12:58 PM

Most of these companies are corporations….right?

CW on February 27, 2015 at 12:59 PM

Its time to run up the black flag.

Ask yourself; why is Obama now wanting to outlaw ammo?

Dick Richard on February 27, 2015 at 1:51 PM

We are 12 kinds of fooked!!!

Dick Richard on February 27, 2015 at 1:52 PM

While obvious its wrong to say as its already been done, I just feel the need to have this day marked as the beginning of the People’s Glorious Imperium of America.

Magilliam on February 27, 2015 at 1:58 PM

Jeez!! Maybe congress will write a letter!

ultracon on February 27, 2015 at 2:12 PM

There are so many things wrong with this is hard to know where to start. First of all, we know Obama has basically said he will do what he wants and has dared Congress to do something about it. Congress, in its infinite wisdom, has removed most of the tools for dealing with it, off the table.

What needs to be done? First, I don’t believe it would be unlawful for Congress to have the Secretary of the Treasury arrested for this, he broke the law, period. Now, the full irony of this is he could be arrested then President Lawless could pardon him. Those are facts. What’s rapidly becoming obvious here is the Constitution has little in to deal with a lawless President that’s supported by his party in his lawlessness. We could be impeached by the House, that we know, but the Senate will never convict because his political party doesn’t care about the Constitution either. So what comes next, due him in court?

I would start with the Secretary of the Treasury, even if he’s pardoned, the President will have to appoint someone else.

bflat879 on February 27, 2015 at 2:22 PM

Makes you want to pay your taxes…

… doesn’t it?

Seven Percent Solution on February 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM

I can’t see the problem here……if Congress didn’t sign the check….It should “bonce” when the insurance comp. try to cash it…that’s what happens at my bank, if I don’t sign a check…

nonstopca1 on February 27, 2015 at 2:55 PM

There’s a shootin’ war a comin’

HomeoftheBrave on February 27, 2015 at 3:07 PM

One of the better arguments for repeal of the Affordable Care Act is the fact that this law has inured the public to anarchy fascism.

Fixed it for ya, Noah.

This is Administration is taking, and has taken, ‘the ends justifies the means’ to such a level of callous and deliberate malfeasance that we’re seen such contemptuous lies arrogantly coming daily – with little real action being taken by either the corrupt Fourth Estate or more disturbingly, the equally (if not more) corrupt GOPe leadership in Congress who remain cowering in their fetal ‘go along to get along’ positions.

We keep asking ‘What are you going to do about it?’ and all the GOP leadership does is compounding nothing upon nothing upon nothing.

Even the French in June 1940 fought better.

Athos on February 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM

Did you even bother to read the article? Treasury already confirmed they paid out $3 Billion. Or are you to busy screaming “I have a black king I don’t care what he does and I’m to stupid to research anything if it’s not spoonfed to me by DailyKos.”

You really are an ignorant piece of shit. It’s sad.

HumpBot Salvation on February 26, 2015 at 10:05 PM

Yes now let’s wait for the rest of the story which the rightwing demagogues have conveniently left out (as is always the case).

Tlaloc on February 27, 2015 at 4:10 PM

What’s a “some high school” diploma look like?

antipc on February 26, 2015 at 10:10 PM

*facepalm*

Seriously? I actually have to explain to you that people get the right to vote at 18 but may not have graduated high school yet, despite not being a drop out?

Tlaloc on February 27, 2015 at 4:12 PM

We’re equally disgusted with the king’s gaelic white side.

StubbornGreenBurros on February 26, 2015 at 10:20 PM

Sure you are which is why the GOP sends around emails of Obama photoshopped to look like a gaelic warrior.

Oh wait, it’s only the black part of his ancestry you guys always choose to play up and mock. Gee, wonder why…

Look if you want to be crypto-racists you need to be a HELL of a lot more subtle about it. You’ve definitely nailed the “racist” part, now try the “secret” part.

Tlaloc on February 27, 2015 at 4:15 PM

Athos on February 27, 2015 at 3:31 PM

Us uninsured rate drops to 12.9% not only erasing the losses of the recession but improving past pre-recession levels.

This, according to Athos, represents unconscionable fascism.

Tlaloc on February 27, 2015 at 4:19 PM

They got Gaelic warrior 0 pics out there? I thought we only photoshopped him as the messiah? Oh, that’s you guys.

Headloc, I understand using the race card is comforting, especially when you’re aware that this president, the worst in modern history (possibly ever), is an absolute failure.
There’s no getting around it, but if the race card gives you some solace and somehow justifies why those whose ideological differences are so incredibly vast and incompatible dislike him, then by all means.

I would not want you to suffer like this country has for the past six years. That would be cruel.

StubbornGreenBurros on February 27, 2015 at 5:33 PM

Tlaloc on February 27, 2015 at 4:19 PM

Gallup, huh? I’m underwhelmed by the source.

How about looking at some data from the real source – the Federal Government and their data from the US Census Bureau which noted that America’s uninsured population increased in 2014 over 2013.

Now, there is also another different metric from the Federal Government (CDC) that contradicts the Census Data – saying that the uninsured population dropped by 3.8 million overall since Obamacare – far short of the promises the Administration made as to what Obamacare would do….

If you like your Doctor, you can keep your Doctor – is a lie.

If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan – is a lie.

You will save $2500 per year with Obamacare – is a lie.
Obamacare will not add to the deficit – is a lie.

The numbers reported by the Administration of registrants – can’t be verified because a) the Administration cooks the numbers, b) the back end hasn’t been built, and c) – the Administration lies.

The numbers reported by the Administration of those who paid their premiums – can’t be verified because a) the Administration cooks the numbers, b) the back end hasn’t been built, and c) – the Administration lies.

The most open and transparent Administration ever is doing all it can to hide, obfuscate, cook, massage, manipulate, and refuse to release verifiable information regarding Obamacare, spending billions never authorized by Congress in the name of crony capitalism, and still can’t get a fully functional website after $2.2 B in expenditures, yet we’re supposed to believe a $2T over the next decade program that is all about seizing control of 1/6th the economy and expanding wealth redistribution isn’t about expanding government control over industry – ie fascism?

Trolls are little more than sycophantic minions as that one demonstrates regularly.

Athos on February 27, 2015 at 8:10 PM

Us uninsured rate drops to 12.9% not only erasing the losses of the recession but improving past pre-recession levels.
 
Tlaloc on February 27, 2015 at 4:19 PM

 
I always enjoy seeing the attempt to begin shifting the conversation to percentages to try to avoid having to admit that almost exactly the same number of people remain uninsured after Obamacare as before Obamacare.
 
12.9% of 318.9M = 41.1M people.
 

Sept. 2013
 
Nationwide, 23.2 million or 56% of the 41.3 million eligible uninsured may qualify for Medicaid, CHIP, or tax credits to purchase coverage for $100 or less.
 
http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2013/Uninsured/ib_uninsured.cfm

 
Obamacare only reduced the crucial OMIGOD!!! 41M eligible uninsured population by about 200K.
 
That’s hilarious. Thanks for the link.

rogerb on February 27, 2015 at 8:25 PM

Government wastes over $200 billion a year in fraud, abuse & duplication. I think this might qualify.

RdLake on February 28, 2015 at 7:04 AM

He could rape, kill both then consume their livers with some fava beans and a nice Chianti on live TV and those with the authority and duty to do something would find 535 reasons not to.

Because questioning Dear Leader is racism. And only the wealthy, intolerant 1% (all 165 million of us) would dare to do so.

orangemtl on March 1, 2015 at 8:53 AM