Boston Globe: Hey, Jeb was a bully and pot-smoker in high school!

posted at 2:31 pm on January 31, 2015 by Ed Morrissey

Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose — for Republicans and the media, anyway. In 2012, the national news media that couldn’t be bothered to look up the college records or classmates of a first-term Senate backbencher running for President suddenly found the high-school life of teenage Mitt Romney utterly fascinating. The media painted him as a rich-snob bully, a meme that continued even after the source admitted he was passing along third-hand hearsay, and after the family of the high-school prank victim ripped news outlets for exploiting the story about the now-deceased young man, and called the narrative “factually inaccurate.” Romney ended up in the ridiculous position of being a man in his sixties apologizing for pranks in his teens, but the aftereffects lingered … not coincidentally, during the summer when Team Obama conducted a massive character assassination campaign against the Republican nominee.

Now, the Boston Globe puts the meme in la même chose:

Jeb, as he was known, should have been an easy fit in that elite and ivied world. His much-accomplished father and his older brother had both gone to Andover; no one was surprised that Jeb had followed suit.

But this Bush almost ran aground in those first, formative prep school days. He bore little resemblance to his father, a star on many fronts at Andover, and might have been an even worse student than brother George. Classmates said he smoked a notable amount of pot — as many did — and sometimes bullied smaller students.

Resolutely apolitical despite his lineage, he refused to join the Progressive Andover Republicans club and often declined even to participate in informal bull sessions with classmates. In a tumultuous season in American life, he seemed to his peers strangely detached and indifferent.

“He was just in a bit of a different world,” said Phil Sylvester, who said he was a Bush roommate for the early part of 10th grade. While other students “were constantly arguing about politics and particularly Vietnam, he just wasn’t interested, he didn’t participate, he didn’t care.”

The Globe manages to get two memes in one. There are eight mentions of Vietnam in this piece, which ends up painting his older brother George’s service as more honorable than Bush’s registration for the draft and his refusal to take part in anti-war protests. No, seriously:

“I registered. . . . I would have gone, I got the physical. I was declared 1A, and the draft was eliminated,” Bush said. Asked how voters considering him as a potential commander-in-chief might view his less-than-enthusiastic view of serving in Vietnam, Bush urged that it be seen in the context of that war and that time. “I was 18,” he said. “I’m 61 years old now.”

Unlike his brother George, who was a member of the National Guard from 1968 to 1974, Bush didn’t volunteer for any kind of military service. Nor did Bush follow his father and brother’s footsteps by going to Yale. He went instead to the University of Texas in Austin, majored in Latin American studies, graduated in an unusually speedy 2½ years, and married Columba.

How old am I? I’m old enough to remember when George W. Bush got attacked for enlisting in the National Guard. Heck, I’m old enough to remember when Bill Clinton got lauded and defended by the media for avoiding the draft through college deferments. And I’m certainly old enough to recall when the media thought it would be rude to look more deeply into Barack Obama’s college career to get a sense of the newcomer. Now that a two-term governor of one of the US’ most populous states is running for office, the media needs to find out whether a 14-year-old kid dunked classmates in the dumpsters at Andover in 1968. Gotcha. In more senses than one.

As I’ve written repeatedly, I’m not enthused by a Jeb Bush candidacy. He’s the past of the GOP at the moment when we should be tending our future, and when we have plenty of talent ready to lead us in that direction. Unfortunately, we still have a national news media stuck in the past too — at least when it comes to Republican presidential candidates. It’s not just la même chose, it’s déjà vu all over again.


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Bullies rarely change. The current occupant of the White House is a nasty, nasty bully, and I have no doubts he was throughout his younger years, too. And I’m sure we will hear all about it…after he leaves office. The liberal media — always with the psychological projection.

Rational Thought on January 31, 2015 at 4:47 PM

Both Bushes stayed out of the way when they left the Presidency. Clinton was less camera shy (like when he tried was in a snit that nobody gave him “credit” for a military able to respond to the 9/11/01 atrocities).

I have no doubt that the lazy stupid rat-eared bastard will not go quietly into the night when leaving office. He’ll be out there commenting on everything his successor does in his typical bullying and arrogant way.

Happy Nomad on January 31, 2015 at 4:57 PM

I think the Arab shiek who was obamas *ahem* sponsor bought his coke for him at columbia.

elvis lives on January 31, 2015 at 5:04 PM

The national media will have a lot easier time destroying the R candidate this time around for many reasons. After their skewering of Palin and Romney…truly threats to their protected Emperor Messiah, Clinton for all her failures has little downside that the media will have to protect- like they did with mystery boy OLiar.
Benghazi you say? Forget it. Won’t even come up, and no media outlet will even think about going there.
Queen Hillary will be a shining monarch for the masses, and any negative stuff….well that was all the fault of that turd of a Marxist-raised imposter who was manchurian for 2 terms.

FlaMurph on January 31, 2015 at 5:06 PM

With Jeb I prefer jamais vu.

profitsbeard on January 31, 2015 at 5:10 PM

Jeb Bush is disgusting. I can’t even look at him. He looks just like his mom. Gross.

OliverB on January 31, 2015 at 5:17 PM

Oliverb…finally, something we agree on :-D

elvis lives on January 31, 2015 at 5:32 PM

Now that the president of the choom gang has occupied the oval office for 7 years, can we stop with the “he smoked a lot of pot” distractions? For crying out loud, Barry was doing a lot more than smoking weed in college. He was snorting coke and having gay sex with his Pak room mate. (the gay sex is a rumor, I know, but I find it very believable and I’m going with it)

ratherbskiing on January 31, 2015 at 5:33 PM

OliverB on January 31, 2015 at 5:17 PM

Yeah, as opposed to the rat eared, blue lipped wonder boy and his wife the yeti.

BeachBum on January 31, 2015 at 5:34 PM

Jeb was such a fan of the wacky-tobaccy that at one point he considered changing his name to “Snoop Jebbie-Jeb”

Redstone on January 31, 2015 at 5:37 PM

Ratherbeskiing…”the gay sex is just a rumor”??? Reggie love not available for comment. :-D

elvis lives on January 31, 2015 at 5:51 PM

Jeb seems to have grown out of being a bully, while Obama never has and seems to just keep getting more bitter with age and the pressure of leadership.

And the Press keeps showing us they haven’t yet reached the bottom on being biased, unethical, and unprofessional.

Socratease on January 31, 2015 at 5:51 PM

. . . announcement of reality show covering Jeb’s “transition” to “woman” in 3, 2, 1

Axe on January 31, 2015 at 6:00 PM

This is Mitt Romney all over again.

SC.Charlie on January 31, 2015 at 6:03 PM

I heard Jeb once laughed at a gay black student in a wheelchair, also.

profitsbeard on January 31, 2015 at 6:05 PM

The establishment types are obsessed w/ what the media says because they want to get invited to cocktail parties where they can say, “…yes, those teagabbers really are awful! You are SO right, we need to pass amnesty, er, immigration reform!”

Newsflash- the media is always going to be liberal and is never going to like you.

Redstone on January 31, 2015 at 6:07 PM

. . . announcement of reality show covering Jeb’s “transition” to “woman” in 3, 2, 1

Axe on January 31, 2015 at 6:00 PM

The show is tentatively titled “Becoming Jeborah” and will air on the Hallmark channel.

Redstone on January 31, 2015 at 6:09 PM

I heard Jeb once laughed at a gay black student in a wheelchair, also.

profitsbeard on January 31, 2015 at 6:05 PM

Gee, I was told that Jeb was a member of Gay African-American Club in his prep school?

SC.Charlie on January 31, 2015 at 6:31 PM

So he was like Obama?

The Notorious G.O.P on January 31, 2015 at 6:34 PM

This is Mitt Romney all over again.

SC.Charlie on January 31, 2015 at 6:03 PM

The media doesn’t have Mitt Romney to lampoon anymore — so they’re trying to create another Mitt Romney. An elite, milquetoast, left-wing, big government Republican, former governor, has strong name recognition, whose father is well known, and who we are being told is the frontrunner for the nomination.

Is that describing Jeb Bush 2016 or Mitt Romney 2012?

I guess the only difference is Mitt tried to be a conservative while running for president while governing as a RINO — Jeb Bush seems to have done the opposite, though I question whether he was really ever conservative even as Governor of Florida.

Aizen on January 31, 2015 at 6:36 PM

Hey Boston Globe….. BFD!

Caseoftheblues on January 31, 2015 at 6:41 PM

One time many years ago in high school Jebmitt Bushney tied me to the roof of his car.

So, yeah. The Globe’s right about Jebmitt.

FlameWarrior on January 31, 2015 at 6:48 PM

The media doesn’t have Mitt Romney to lampoon anymore — so they’re trying to create another Mitt Romney. An elite, milquetoast, left-wing, big government Republican, former governor, has strong name recognition, whose father is well known, and who we are being told is the frontrunner for the nomination.

Is that describing Jeb Bush 2016 or Mitt Romney 2012?

I guess the only difference is Mitt tried to be a conservative while running for president while governing as a RINO — Jeb Bush seems to have done the opposite, though I question whether he was really ever conservative even as Governor of Florida.

Aizen on January 31, 2015 at 6:36 PM

Do you think it matters who the Republican is? Romney’s past was perfect. Just wait until they start on Cruz, Rubio, Walker, Jindal…hell even Martinez,….it doesn’t matter

Redford on January 31, 2015 at 7:10 PM

So since he is against legalization marijuana does he support going to jail for smoking weed in high school?

weedisgood on January 31, 2015 at 7:23 PM

A person doesnt go to jail for smoking weed in high school. They have to be caught with a large amount. Not sure how much, but i believe it is considered dealing. Simple possesion doesnt mean jail usually. Can someone correct me if im wrong?

elvis lives on January 31, 2015 at 7:35 PM

Do you think it matters who the Republican is? Romney’s past was perfect. Just wait until they start on Cruz, Rubio, Walker, Jindal…hell even Martinez,….it doesn’t matter

Redford on January 31, 2015 at 7:10 PM

Romney’s past wasn’t “perfect” — we’re talking about a guy who repeatedly took different positions on several issues to placate the crowd he was talking to. And yes, standing on principle matters — it’s a testament to one’s personal character. I don’t question Mitt Romney’s lifestyle choices like practicing Mormonism and working at Bain Capital — he’s given a mountain on money over the years to charities and he’s probably the most gentlemanly person to be nominated on a national party’s ticket (getting there in part by burying his Republican opposition under an avalanche of negative ads) — but Romney still had real problems coming off as a “real” person and not just another power-hungry, ego-driven politician.

And yes — I agree, any Republican will be treated like that. But cry me a river for the Bushes, Romneys, McCains, et al. who spend every waking moment attacking conservatives while trying to get the media to fall in love with them.

Aizen on January 31, 2015 at 7:36 PM

A person doesnt go to jail for smoking weed in high school. They have to be caught with a large amount. Not sure how much, but i believe it is considered dealing. Simple possesion doesnt mean jail usually. Can someone correct me if im wrong?

elvis lives on January 31, 2015 at 7:35 PM

Wrong.
Marijuana is classified by the federal government as a Controlled Substance Schedules. You can do jail time if caught with any amount.
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/

Considering the fact that Jeb Bush did this many years ago which I assumed marijuana was universally frowned upon.

He is a hypocrite and must be called out

weedisgood on January 31, 2015 at 7:44 PM

Ratherbeskiing…”the gay sex is just a rumor”??? Reggie love not available for comment. :-D

elvis lives on January 31, 2015 at 5:51 PM

Excellent point. Have you noticed Michelle is more masculine looking than Barry? Just saying. But maybe that’s because standing next to him, any one would look masculine.

ratherbskiing on January 31, 2015 at 7:44 PM

He is a hypocrite and must be called out

weedisgood on January 31, 2015 at 7:44 PM

You’re dumber than Babs Boxer.

RickB on January 31, 2015 at 7:59 PM

You’re dumber than Babs Boxer.

RickB on January 31, 2015 at 7:59 PM

weak

weedisgood on January 31, 2015 at 8:25 PM

weedisgood on January 31, 2015 at 7:44 PM

I got caught with a little dope in the early 90’s. Misdemeanor. Took an ASAP course. Charges dropped.

KCB on January 31, 2015 at 8:29 PM

You’re dumber than Babs Boxer.

RickB on January 31, 2015 at 7:59 PM

weak

weedisgood on January 31, 2015 at 8:25 PM

But true

RickB on January 31, 2015 at 8:31 PM

I got caught with a little dope in the early 90′s. Misdemeanor. Took an ASAP course. Charges dropped.

KCB on January 31, 2015 at 8:29 PM

What if the person caught doesn’t have money for the course or didn’t come from a privilege background like Bush?

weedisgood on January 31, 2015 at 8:31 PM

What if the person caught doesn’t have money for the course or didn’t come from a privilege background like Bush?

weedisgood on January 31, 2015 at 8:31 PM

If you can’t do the time… don’t do the crime.

It’s a risk… lots of teens do it. Big whoop. Not a Jeb fan, but seriously. Between releasing an old video of Christie falling off a chair – and now this “revelation” about Jeb, the media is already scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Hill60 on January 31, 2015 at 9:29 PM

Hey Boston Globe and the rest of the State Controlled Media, how about showing us King Putt’s COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS?
Heck, how about any interviews with ANY of his Occidental, Columbia, or Haaavaaaddd classmates?
NO? … I didn’t think so.

Missilengr on January 31, 2015 at 10:13 PM

All 3 Homosexual Members Of Obama’s Trinity Church Murdered Within 6 Weeks.

In late May, Wash. DC-based investigative journalist Wayne Madsen had a bombshell revelation about Obama’s membership in a Chicago gay club, Man’s Country. Madsen also reported on Obama’s sexual relationships with other men, including named D.C. politicians and Donald Young, the openly-gay choir-director of the church in Chicago of which Obama was a member for some 20 years — Jeremy Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ black liberation theology.

Obama’s relationship with Young was confirmed by Larry Sinclair, who claims to have had two sex-cocaine trysts with Obama.

There were two other openly gay men in Wright’s church: Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. In late 2007, as Obama began his ascent to be the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee, in a span of 1½ months, all three men “conveniently” died:
Bland was murdered execution-style on November 17, 2007;
Young was murdered execution-style on December 24, 2007;
Spencer reportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV on December 26, 2007. (Death certificates of Bland and Young, HERE.)

Now, Young’s elderly mother is speaking out about her suspicions that her son was murdered to protect Obama’s reputation and assure his political future as President.

bigGwillie on January 31, 2015 at 10:45 PM

A person doesnt go to jail for smoking weed in high school. They have to be caught with a large amount. Not sure how much, but i believe it is considered dealing. Simple possesion doesnt mean jail usually. Can someone correct me if im wrong?

depends on the color of your skin.

everdiso on February 1, 2015 at 12:10 AM

So the ‘Politics of Personal Destruction’ begins?! Americans should stand together and loudly tell pathetic ‘news’ agencies participating in this stuff to STFU!! If you can’t tell me why ‘your’ candidate should be President without attacking the other guy then ‘your’ guy probably shouldn’t be in office!

easyt65 on February 1, 2015 at 12:51 AM

So the ‘Politics of Personal Destruction’ begins?! Americans should stand together and loudly tell pathetic ‘news’ agencies participating in this stuff to STFU!! If you can’t tell me why ‘your’ candidate should be President without attacking the other guy then ‘your’ guy probably shouldn’t be in office!

easyt65 on February 1, 2015 at 12:51 AM

I could not have said it any better! And the LSM……..well, I feel I can’t believe anything that is put forward by any of them.

Iamaluckyone on February 1, 2015 at 6:24 AM

weedisgood on January 31, 2015 at 7:44 PM

Dude. Your hair is on fire.

papertiger on February 1, 2015 at 6:26 AM

Between releasing an old video of Christie falling off a chair – and now this “revelation” about Jeb, the media is already scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Hill60 on January 31, 2015 at 9:29 PM

You want the media to play it straight, report on OB gay trists, cocanine habit, coasting through schools using the race card t grease the skids?
You’ll have to plant some bombs and wrack up a bodycount way bigger than Charlie Hebdo.

See the reporters for the Boston Globe know better than you do that a political terrorist org that would off a few gays for the cause would be only too happy to do the same for a few nosy reporters, or the nosy reporters families.

papertiger on February 1, 2015 at 6:48 AM

You really don’t think the leftist media won’t do this to any R?

Wait for the hit pieces to come out about Cruz, Walker, and any other R they perceive as a threat. Because they will come.

cat_owner on January 31, 2015 at 3:18 PM

I didn’t say anything of the kind.
All I said is that I encourage them to destroy Bush.

The fact that the media will attack any Republican and act as a coverup squad for Democrats is baked into the cake.

But they can turn Bush into the next coming of Adolf Hitler as far as I’m concerned.

DRayRaven on February 1, 2015 at 7:16 AM

Regardless of the Jeb hate the Demtard strategy is to vilify all of the bullying men in the world of politics. Hillary the queen of victims.
Hey, it worked to get her the a Senate seat.
Whether anyone will buy it this time around is another story, after all, no one bought her poor Bill & Hill nonsense and we still don’t like her screeching chalkboard chirk tones, “What difference … does it make!”

kregg on February 1, 2015 at 7:41 AM

The people who pay attention to this drivel will not vote for a republican ever.

We need someone who understands this fact, derides the left, and appeals to the base.

We are the base.

Don’t expect to get elected without us.

You must be Romney in the first debate with O’liar.

Otherwise, you lose.

Sherman1864 on February 1, 2015 at 8:09 AM

He’s just trying to sound hip. This is just his attempt to try and get the doper vote in states like Colorado.

BTW, isn’t Jeb one of the ugliest people ever considered a viable potential nominee. How much does his head alone way? 100 pounds?

He would fold like a house of cards in a debate with Hillary. And is wife is NOT an affable personality.

PappyD61 on February 1, 2015 at 8:53 AM

He is a rich, white, blue-blood American. A true person of privilege. Such people are evil, according to the Democrat attack manual unless they are Democrats.

SC.Charlie on February 1, 2015 at 8:58 AM

Perhaps the MSM are playing the long game? They must know that having two or more RINO’s instead of one will increase the chances of a Conservative getting the nomination, and hence, the Presidency.

Decoski on February 1, 2015 at 9:38 AM

They haven’t started on his wife and family yet. This will get ugly.

claudius on February 1, 2015 at 10:38 AM

Really, pappy? You think he’s ugly? Do you remember Steve Forbes and Alan Keyes? Or Walter Mondale? Or Newt Gingrich? Or Micheal Dukakis? And even if you do think he’s ugly, is that a reason not to vote for him? Hilary and Elizabeth Warren are hideous. There are plenty of reasons to not vote for Jeb, what he looks like is not one of them.

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 10:38 AM

The double standard in the MSM is certainly nothing new.

But, it’s Jeb Bush so who cares.

The Globe should do a hit piece on Rubio next.

GOP establishment candidates have proven themselves to be practically worthless.

lynncgb on February 1, 2015 at 10:39 AM

Jeb is one of my last choices on the Republican side. I’d rather it be Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Ben Carson, or John Kasich. But if it comes down to Jeb Bush against Hillary Clinton, you better believe I’m voting for Bush. And if you don’t, then you are supporting the Democrat agenda. How many elections are you simple-minded people going to sit out in a row to “teach the Republicans a lesson”? Any conservative who sat out the last Presidential election is to blame for Obamacare not being reversed. Hope you’re happy.

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM

And if you don’t, then you are supporting the Democrat agenda.

Voting for Jeb supports the democrat agenda. “Lesser of two evils” isn’t going to work w/ Jeb, sorry. Find someone better!

Redstone on February 1, 2015 at 11:05 AM

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM

It takes so much pressure off the party kingmakers when they know we’ll support anyone they put up. It allows them to taylor their candidate to woo those middle of the road voters. Dole, McCain, Romney, I voted for each of them. Meanwhile the Democrats have moved the political spectrum far to the left, and the Republicans have moved left with them. It’s got to stop somewhere. We’re losing the country.

claudius on February 1, 2015 at 11:16 AM

Jeb Bush also beats his wife and has daliances with women, as seen by NYT reporters and is hiding his wealth in the Cayman Islands, and we need a black and white expose on his parents a la Time magazine, and his father was worse than Romney’s father because he worked for the CIA.

Did that help you B Globe? copy this poston AP, and repeat after me over and over, Hilary is Popular, Jeb is a ….fill in the blank with whatever deragatory thought works for the day.

Fleuries on February 1, 2015 at 12:23 PM

If you have only two choices, Jeb or Hillary, and you don’t vote, you are supporting the Democrats. PERIOD. How many elections in a row are you willing to sit out and let the Democrats win because the GOP Nominee isn’t conservative enough? Are you really willing to go 16 straight years of Obama/Hillary to prove a point? What if it’s Jeb this time and another moderate Republican in 2020? Just how many elections in a row are you going to contribute to letting the Dems win? What’s the end game? I really don’t understand it. A guy who is 60% for what you want is better than someone who is 0% of what you want. But go right ahead. Keep contributing to Dems winning the Presidency. And let Cheslea Clinton win in 2024. And Serena Obama win in 2032. You’ll teach us ALLL a lesson…

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 12:31 PM

You guys are such whiners! As I recall, there was one article in one paper about Romney the Bully.

And now, we have one article in one paper factually reporting what even Jeb admits were problem years and whose thesis, ultimately is “Indeed, for Bush, the story of Andover is how it ended — and it ended very well.” It’s actually hard to imagine how a story about a self-admitted hard-drinking dope-smoking jerk — in his own words, “cynical little turd at a cynical school” — who almost got thrown out could turn out better. It’s almost as though someone on the Bush team said “this high schools stuff looks terrible. Let’s spin it into a coming-of age piece with a happy ending,”

But, I get it. No coverage — accurate or not — of a republican that hasn’t been approved word-for-word by their campaign staff.

urban elitist on February 1, 2015 at 12:32 PM

Fleuries on February 1, 2015 at 12:23 PM

Bush’s head is enormous. It must weigh a hundred pounds. And his wife is a little foreign freak. And his daughter is a drug fiend. Please help us keep this circus troop out of our White House!

Anyway, Hillary is a woman!

Welcome to the interior of the “non-political” voter’s head!

claudius on February 1, 2015 at 12:34 PM

redstone, voting for Jeb Bush is NOT supporting the Democrat agenda. He was a conservative Governor of a very large state the the GOP needs to win, and he did a very good job at being Governor. If his name was Jeb Smith, he’d be the frontrunner, no questions asked.

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 12:36 PM

claudius, you’re not a good person. You have no basis for anything you just said. I really hope you’re just a Democrat Troll.

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 12:38 PM

The media is at war with us, but we are not at war with the media.

Like ISIS, We expect them to act like gentlemen, are disappointed when they show us how low and ruthless they are. We wag our finger but don’t even bother to throw a hissy fit when they insert themselves in a Presidential debate until after it is too late to make a real impact.

CoolHandLuke on February 1, 2015 at 1:03 PM

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 12:38 PM

Your reading comprehension has let you down. I’m saying that is the way the left is going to play it if Bush is the nominee, and that is the picture a lot of the low info voters will take into the voting booth. There are already a number of websites with this kind of innuendo up and running. This, by the way, is how campaigns were run in the past.

claudius on February 1, 2015 at 1:07 PM

But, I get it. No coverage — accurate or not — of a republican that hasn’t been approved word-for-word by their campaign staff.

urban elitist on February 1, 2015 at 12:32 PM

“I ate the dog” was not that widely reported………….

VegasRick on February 1, 2015 at 1:31 PM

Our mainstream media is one of the most corrupt in history. Joseph Goebells was able to take a German midget corporal to a Nazi dictator named Hitler. The lies and deception of our mainstream media took a pot smoking street punk named Barry Soetero to being a American president named Barrack Obama. Our media will fanatically support the left regardless of who that is. Jeb is not qualified to be president so he will done away with quickly.

volsense on February 1, 2015 at 1:35 PM

claudius, no matter who the Republican nominee is, they’re going to find a narrative to make them look evil. You can’t rule out a candidate based on what the Dems might say about them. They actually tried to make John McCain’s time as a POW a negative. I don’t want Jeb Bush to be President and won’t vote for him in the primary. But, if he does somehow get the nomination (I don’t think he will), I will vote for him.

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 2:18 PM

If Jeb is a bully, maybe he won’t outsource the job to the IRS if he gets into the Oval office.

RSbrewer on February 1, 2015 at 2:23 PM

redstone, voting for Jeb Bush is NOT supporting the Democrat agenda. He was a conservative Governor of a very large state the the GOP needs to win, and he did a very good job at being Governor. If his name was Jeb Smith, he’d be the frontrunner, no questions asked.

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 12:36 PM

Nobody cares what Jeb did 20 years ago in FL, actually spending went up during his reign.

Jeb is pro-illegal immigration and pro-common core, those stances alone disqualify him from running.

Add to the table his many corrupt business deals, earning paychecks from convicted criminals, making millions off of Obamacare AND the fact that his last name is political poison, and you see a candidate with no chance of winning.

If the GOP is so incredibly stupid that they will nominate a candidate that they know will lose simply to spite their base, then the GOP deserves to go down in flames and I will cheer on their loss.

Redstone on February 1, 2015 at 2:46 PM

rexbatt on February 1, 2015 at 12:31 PM

Hillary and Jeb are identical, in fact Hillary might actually be more conservative. Your argument isn’t going to work this time; get a better candidate.

If the fools in the establishment push Jeb down everyone’s throats, they know what is going to happen and it will be their fault entirely for being so stupid and unreasonable.

Redstone on February 1, 2015 at 2:50 PM

If the GOP is so incredibly stupid that they will nominate a candidate that they know will lose simply to spite their base, then the GOP deserves to go down in flames and I will cheer on their loss.

Redstone on February 1, 2015 at 2:46 PM

Hope you like Obama Hillary.

V7_Sport on February 1, 2015 at 3:03 PM

Hope you like Obama Hillary.

V7_Sport on February 1, 2015 at 3:03 PM

How is Hillary different from Jeb in any respect, other than the fact that one has a D after their name and the other an R?

They could EASILY be in the same party.

Just face it, Jeb is a democrat.

Redstone on February 1, 2015 at 3:06 PM

Redstone on February 1, 2015 at 3:06 PM

How is Hillary different from Jeb in any respect, other than the fact that one has a D after their name and the other an R?

I don’t want Jeb Bush to be president. I don’t think I have anything to worry about there because he is going to be outspent 3 to one by someone who has shown herself to have, and I am using this term after giving it serious thought, a psychopathic preoccupation with getting power over others throughout her life.
The difference is that Bush was a successful governor and Clinton has screwed up everything she has touched. Bush lives in reality or at least reality adjacent. Clinton doesn’t even pay lip service to reality or truth by correspondence any more. ( What difference does it make.)
Is there enough difference to get me out of my clinical depression brought about by seeing 2 terms of Obama s0domize this country? No. Not by a long shot. But I can’t help but remember that it needn’t have come to this and that at least stopping the militant left has to begin somewhere.

Just face it, Jeb is a democrat.

Jeb is something worse in a way: He is an accurate reflection of where most of the country is. We as conservatives need to be after a punch that is bigger than our weight class because insisting on all or nothing has brought us the situation we have now.

That said, maybe they will all get hit by a bus and finally serve the country’s best interests.

V7_Sport on February 1, 2015 at 3:22 PM

Jeb is something worse in a way: He is an accurate reflection of where most of the country is.

Jeb is where the establishment of both parties is at, but not where the general public is.

Certain issues, like “immigration reform”, resonate far more w/ the establishment than the public.

Redstone on February 1, 2015 at 4:39 PM

A person doesnt go to jail for smoking weed in high school. They have to be caught with a large amount. Not sure how much, but i believe it is considered dealing. Simple possesion doesnt mean jail usually. Can someone correct me if im wrong?

elvis lives on January 31, 2015 at 7:35 PM

I dunno what the law was around Andover, but in 1971 (the year Jeb turned 18) in Texas, you could get up to 2 years in the state penitentiary for having a roach in your ashtray. To be fair, more likely you’d do 30 days in the county jail, but it was legally permissible to give you up to 2 years.

GrumpyOldFart on February 1, 2015 at 8:42 PM

depends on the color of your skin.

everdiso on February 1, 2015 at 12:10 AM

Ah. So you already know that every black kid caught with pot in high school has gone to jail, and conversely that not a single white kid ever has?

Take your racism and cram it.

runawayyyy on February 2, 2015 at 8:53 AM

We as conservatives need to be after a punch that is bigger than our weight class because insisting on all or nothing has brought us the situation we have now.

V7_Sport on February 1, 2015 at 3:22 PM

Leftists have been taking an all or nothing approach for decades. It’s been working quite well for them. They’ve gotten every single idiotic agenda item they’ve demanded, or they’re very close to that goal.

But conservatives have to sit still, stop rocking the boat, and gratefully accept whatever scraps the republican establishment deems “enough” for us?

Screw that. I’ll never vote for a committed leftist again, no matter which party they identify with.

runawayyyy on February 2, 2015 at 8:57 AM

runawayyyy on February 2, 2015 at 8:57 AM

Leftists have been taking an all or nothing approach for decades. It’s been working quite well for them.

What has worked for them is work. (and organization) They have simply outworked the right who is obsessed with the circular firing squad.

They’ve gotten every single idiotic agenda item they’ve demanded, or they’re very close to that goal.

They turn out votes and ring the phone off the wall of their representatives, We complain here.

But conservatives have to sit still, stop rocking the boat, and gratefully accept whatever scraps the republican establishment deems “enough” for us?

Nope, what we have to do is elect people who can be bullied and then bully them. We dont.
We simply don’t. It’s no ones fault but our own. They have earned where they are and we have earned where we are.

V7_Sport on February 2, 2015 at 4:20 PM

How can any Republican look at the double standard in what’s covered and how and conclude anything other than that the mainstream media works for Democrats and against Republicans?

Newt Gingrich was onto something in the ’12 campaign: Call it out. Don’t be genteel about it. Don’t participate with enemies working against you. But Republican politicians en masse have to do it.

FishingwFredo on February 3, 2015 at 12:27 PM