Howard Dean: These terrorists are about as Muslim as I am

posted at 7:21 pm on January 7, 2015 by Allahpundit

Via Newsbusters. Alternate headline: “Howard Dean added to terrorist watch list.”

A good example of rhetoric that undermines public confidence in the political class, even though all Dean-o’s trying to say here (I think) is that law-abiding Muslims shouldn’t be held responsible for terrorist rampages. The “tiny minority of extremists” read on jihadism to the same end was a staple of Bush’s administration, but that concept implies that they do indeed function within Islam in some sense. That’s what it means to be a minority within a larger population rather than a population in your own right. Lately, though, that concept seems to have slid towards insisting that jihadis simply aren’t Muslim in any sense of the word. Sure, they may swear by the Koran, and sure, most of them come from the Middle East, and sure, they act with plenty of moral support from Salafist clerics based in the same country where Mecca and Medina are located, but hey — that doesn’t make them Islamic. Remember this passage from Obama’s “let’s bomb ISIS” speech in September?

Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not “Islamic.” No religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim.

I’ve never understood why some western pols, usually but not always liberals, feel it’s necessary to go that extra yard and start pronouncing on what is and isn’t authentically Islamic. It reeks of sweaty doth-protest-too-much reassurance. If you feel obliged to remind Americans for the thousandth time that it’s unfair to punish one individual Muslim for the actions of another — and if you do still feel that need after the first 999 iterations, you should probably reflect on your own prejudices — then just say that. Shifting into Imam Dean mode and issuing a fatwa rendering the Charlie Hebdo terrorists haram looks ridiculous, a reminder that the first impulse of the political class after people have been murdered by terrorists is to worry about Muslims. A roomful of satirists gets machine-gunned by a pair of jihadi degenerates and this is Howard Dean’s gut reaction?

This is actually a perfect complement to the recent speech by Sisi, Egypt’s new president/dictator, on the crisis within Islam. He had an angle in delivering it, of course: The more he can turn Egyptian public opinion against Islamists, particular his nemeses in the Muslim Brotherhood, the more license he’ll have to suppress them in protecting his own power. Even so, click the last link and contrast his rhetoric with Dean’s. Who’s closer to reality?

Update: Ezra Klein also sees nothing religious about this attack, no sirree. And unlike Dean, he can read minds:

But this isn’t about Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons, any more than a rape is about what the victim is wearing, or a murder is about where the victim was walking.

What happened today, according to current reports, is that two men went on a killing spree. Their killing spree, like most killing sprees, will have some thin rationale. Even the worst villains believe themselves to be heroes. But in truth, it was unprovoked slaughter. The fault lies with no one but them and their accomplices. Their crime isn’t explained by cartoons or religion. Plenty of people read Charlie Hebdo’s cartoons and managed to avoid responding with mass murder. Plenty of people follow all sorts of religions and somehow get through the day without racking up a body count. The answers to what happened today won’t be found in Charlie Hebdo’s pages. They can only be found in the murderers’ sick minds.

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Je suis Charlie, et son temps pour vous de mourir, enculé.

williamg on January 8, 2015 at 1:13 AM

Dean and his fellow apologists need to wake up and realize that it doesn’t matter whether they think these terrorists and jihadists are muslims or not! The fact of the matter is that THEY think they are muslims and THEY think they are acting as good muslims should! That is what matters! As long as muslims are reading the Koran and are finding there justification for terrorism and acts of despicable violence against others, we will continue to see things like this! And declaring that they are not muslims will continue to mean absolutely nothing…

TomCoats on January 8, 2015 at 3:41 AM

I saw a cameo of him at the end of the “Guardians of the Galaxy” film…oh, wait, that was Howard the Duck, not Howard the schmuck…

ScooterDude on January 8, 2015 at 7:57 AM

Tell the lie.
Live the lie.
Become the lie.

claudius on January 8, 2015 at 8:21 AM

Dean’s reaction is in perfect synch with his Leftist brethren. His FIRST worry is that the Left’s continued program of undermining Western civilization will be disrupted by people wanting to defend themselves being reminded by this incident that we are under attack by the Left’s Islamofascist allies.

Yes. We. Can.

Mike from NC on January 8, 2015 at 8:24 AM

These terrorists are about as Muslim as I am

Isn’t it amazing the convoluted logic that leftist will exercise simply to construct a voting block from those that want to come here to get on the dole.

Tsar of Earth on January 8, 2015 at 8:41 AM

The innocent will suffer along with the guilty. It has always been like that. We have tried to evolve a just society where only the guilty are punished, but the Muslims and the Left think we’re all guilty. In any case we are forced to abandon our idea of a just society or be destroyed. War is not just. That’s what it comes down to.

claudius on January 8, 2015 at 8:44 AM

I heard the ABC Top of the Hour News at 6pm last night.

First story, the attack in France, no mention of Islamic Terrorist. (All kinds of facts are known including conviction for terrorism)

Second story, possible homemade explosive device near NAACP office government looking into Domestic Terrorism. (Before any facts are known)

Unbiased Media…

timoric on January 8, 2015 at 8:45 AM

Using the so called logic of the liberal left, bank robbers are not really robbing a bank, arsonists are not really burning down buildings, Muslims are not the cause of terrorism in the world today, the world has never been a safer place, and obama is actually doing everything he can to unite the country.

Tommyhour on January 8, 2015 at 8:56 AM

The left’sembrace of Islam is where liberalism completely falls a part. Islam, not even counting the terroristic elements, is the antithesis of everything that liberalism apparently stands for. They defend it for no other reason than contrarianism. Liberalism is not so much its own ideology, rather, it’s simply anti-conservstism.

Mitochondrion on January 7, 2015 at 8:26 PM

At present the Left’s main priority is the destruction of the United States. They will therefore take sides with whomever is doing battle with the United States, whether that be China, Russia, Cuba, or Islam.
Leftists know precisely what they are doing.
Liberals are generally just childlike imbeciles and useful idiots of the Leftists.

For example, Leftists will stage protests in Ferguson and NYC with the sole intention of causing harm to the country. Liberals will show up for the protests without any in depth thinking, just because it is trendy and makes them feel good about themselves.

justltl on January 8, 2015 at 9:20 AM

I did not know Howard Dean was a devout Muslim until now.

Sherman1864 on January 8, 2015 at 9:26 AM

Or, in the spirit of earlier parts of the thread, I offer this analogy:

Satan is the Producer. Leftists are the directors of his productions. Liberals are the mindless actors and nitwit groupies.

justltl on January 8, 2015 at 9:30 AM

Mr. Dean, it doesn’t matter what you think of these critters. THEY think they are Moslem, THEY think that they have acted out of Moslem motivations, and the fair percentage of supporters that they have in Moslem parts of the world probably do to.

Now here’s my take – Islamic terrorists are idolators. They take their anger, and ambition and fear and wad them into a big ball. They place this ball on an altar, call it Allah, and worship it most sincerely. Not a thought that would occur to a secular mind, but one is really incapable of understanding any of this terrorism while leaving out the religious aspect. Duh. Je suis Charlie.

Surellin on January 8, 2015 at 9:37 AM

How an M.D. can be so abjectly ignorant is astounding…

Pest on January 8, 2015 at 10:02 AM

The (D-) in front of his name, in this case, seems to stand for ‘DENIAL’…of course, most of the other time it stands for ‘dumbm@$$’….

easyt65 on January 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM

I wonder if he would change his mind if he was about to be beheaded by one of these fanatics screaming ‘Allah Akbar’?!

easyt65 on January 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM

We knew this guy was a wack-job in Iowa 2008 when he started screaming, “I’m going to New Hampshire … and Florida … and South Carolina ,,, and ….

bw222 on January 8, 2015 at 10:48 AM

did not know Howard Dean was a devout Muslim until now.

Sherman1864 on January 8, 2015 at 9:26 AM

His wife is a Jew. Wonder how they get along.

bw222 on January 8, 2015 at 10:51 AM

Saying the Islamists aren’t Muslim is like saying the Nazis weren’t German.

Barnestormer on January 8, 2015 at 10:54 AM

a new bottom parameter to the question, ‘How big an idiot do you take me for’?

“Howard Dean”

a5minmajor on January 8, 2015 at 11:22 AM

Don’t believe Dean is muslim but he does have long standing ties to the Democratic party explaining both the lie and the reason it is still an apples to apples comparison.

onomo on January 8, 2015 at 12:08 PM

So according to Ezra Klein of the million potential targets n Paris these guys picked this one target at random, shot everyone they could while yelling ‘allahu Akbar’ and ‘the prophet is avenged’ but it has nothing to do with Islam…As dangerous as the radical moslems are, fools like Howard Dean and Ezra Klein are the greater threat.

thesorcerer on January 8, 2015 at 12:23 PM

Dean is a uncompromising idiot. Why did someone open his rat hole and let him wander free?

rplat on January 8, 2015 at 12:34 PM

So it’s Mullah Howard Dean now? Or is it Ayatollah Dean?

ruttles on January 8, 2015 at 1:33 PM

Didn’t Dean yell JI-HAD when he won in Iowa. He probably is Muslim.

KenInIL on January 8, 2015 at 1:50 PM

So, when did Dean convert?

Hucklebuck on January 8, 2015 at 2:02 PM

a reminder that the first impulse of the political class after people have been murdered by terrorists is to worry about Muslims

Favorite Fictional Headline: “Local Muslim Community Worried about Backlash from Tomorrow’s Bombing”

Hucklebuck on January 8, 2015 at 2:05 PM

Howard Dean is the epitome of the Dumb A$$ politician.

Lawrence on January 8, 2015 at 2:25 PM

I didn’t know Howard Dean was a muslim.

Barred on January 7, 2015 at 7:42 PM


cableguy615 on January 8, 2015 at 7:02 PM

Howard Dean- the Benedict Arnold of our era.

DevilsPrinciple on January 9, 2015 at 8:49 AM