NBC poll: Executive amnesty is… pretty unpopular with just about everybody

posted at 6:01 pm on November 19, 2014 by Noah Rothman

On Monday, USA Today released a poll that might have buoyed the spirits of those who support President Barack Obama’s planned executive order which will enact portions of the Senate’s failed immigration reform bill. That survey found that an executive order was only slightly unpopular, with 46 percent disapproving and 42 percent approving.

Today, it seems that poll may have given Democrats false hope. An NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey released on Wednesday revealed that an immigration executive order from Obama would not be that popular at all, even with the demographics the president surely hoped to please.

NBC/WSJ found that only 38 percent of the public are happy with the president’s planned immigration order, while a full 48 percent disapprove. 11 percent of Republicans approve of the move and 37 percent of self-described independents agree. Shockingly, only 63 percent of Democrats in that survey expressed support for an executive order.

Even more surprisingly, that poll found that immigration reform via executive order is not especially popular with even Hispanic voters. Just 43 percent of Hispanics polled support an executive action creating legal status for millions of illegal immigrants while 37 percent disapprove.

In an unusual move, NBC News determined that its own poll shouldn’t be taken seriously. “[T]he sample size here is small (just 110 Latino respondents), so the numbers have a high margin of error,” NBC’s Mark Murray reported.

That’s quaint. When in the history of polling has there been a sub-sample that does not have a high margin of error? With over 100 respondents, that subset is not even all that small compared to most other national polls. The implication here is that readers should move past this poll’s findings and have faith that Hispanic voters will embrace Obama’s executive order.

It’s possible – just possible, mind you – that comprehensive immigration reform is popular while an executive order on that matter is not, even among Hispanics.

The Wall Street Journal’s write up of this survey confirms that conclusion:

At the same time, support for a pathway to citizenship for people staying in the U.S. illegally remained robust, with 57% favoring such a plan and 40% opposing. Support grew higher –to 74%–when people were given details of such a plan, including requirements that they pay a fine, any back taxes and pass a security background check.

This finding comports perfectly with the exit polling conducted on November 4. That survey found that voters who cast ballots in the midterm elections favored a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants to the tune of exactly 57 percent. This suggests that immigration reform via traditional methods – e.g. legislation passed by Congress and signed by the president – is relatively popular.

With Democrats only lukewarm on Obama’s immigration order and Hispanics ambivalent if not downright suspicious of it, one has to ask just who the president thinks he is helping here?


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Someone needs to have the balls to put this man under arrest. He is committing TREASON. His crimes are BEYOND impeachment as a remedy at this point. We didn’t impeach Benedict Arnold did we? The name Obama will go down in history with Arnold.

ConstantineXI on November 20, 2014 at 8:04 AM

In my opinion there would have to be massive unrest in the streets, which he then overreacts to and fails to quell. He might then resign under threat of arrest. The problem is that the people most incensed by all this are the ones least likely to strike and riot. It would be ironic if Obama has planted the seeds of his own distraction with the Ferguson mess, though.

claudius on November 20, 2014 at 8:26 AM

distraction=destruction

Flippin’ autospell!

claudius on November 20, 2014 at 8:29 AM

NBC poll: Executive amnesty is… pretty unpopular with just about everybody

HE DOESN’T CARE! Take all the polls you want. He is actively ignoring the only poll that counts (the one that occured on November 4th).

And he knows full well that there’s absolutely nothing any of us can do to stop him.

runawayyyy on November 20, 2014 at 8:36 AM

In my opinion there would have to be massive unrest in the streets, which he then overreacts to and fails to quell. He might then resign under threat of arrest. The problem is that the people most incensed by all this are the ones least likely to strike and riot. It would be ironic if Obama has planted the seeds of his own distraction with the Ferguson mess, though.

claudius on November 20, 2014 at 8:26 AM

That’s pretty much exactly the case. I have said this before but until the EBT cards stop working, the internet is cut off, and the electricity goes off and doesn’t come back on, no one is going to go into the streets.

The middle class is convinced any serious action to overturn the government or even organize serious political action (beyond just voting in elections) is unethical or even “racist.” Unfortunately, we’ve basically left the field to liberal extremist groups such as NAACP or the environmentalists since the late ’60s instead of organizing to protect our own interests, and now we’re paying for it.

Doomberg on November 20, 2014 at 8:39 AM

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

—Patrick Henry

claudius on November 20, 2014 at 8:49 AM

NBC poll: Executive amnesty is… pretty unpopular with just about everybody::

So was the healthcare Bill by 85% but we had it rammed down our throats by the Democrats, not one Republican voted for it.

mixplix on November 20, 2014 at 8:55 AM

Didn’t I tell you, you wouldn’t last. See you next time. Your not hard to spot.

Bmore on November 20, 2014 at 9:13 AM

‘What good’s a reward if you ain’t around to use it?’ asked Han Solo in Star Wars.

The Dems are no doubt asking themselves that question as they are turfed out of every office at every level even in so-called blue districts.

Party loyalty is one thing, but they have been reduced at the point of a sword to loyalty to one man and that one man is quickly nearing the end of his power, thank God. If they’re expecting any loyalty in return they’ll have a nice long wait.

Leftism is a death cult and apparently even its overlords are happy to neck down the hemlock.

jangle12 on November 20, 2014 at 9:14 AM

Executive amnesty is… pretty unpopular with just about everybody

Except for the three branches of our federal government, the governors of our states and their legislators and judiciary, the Chamber of Commerce, big business, the hotel industry, the mega-rich, the media, and our educators. In other words, except for the people that matter in determining who is allowed into our country. It’s only unpopular with the voters. Clearly, they don’t matter, and, until they make it matter by destroying the two wings (R and D) of our ruling party, nothing important will happen to shut down unfettered immigration.

Nomennovum on November 20, 2014 at 9:23 AM

This is just like the Guantanamo Bay executive order.

Let me explain: In 2009, the closing of Gitmo was an “I won” show and a thumb in the eye of his opponents. Democrats of this era believe good policy is any one that Republicans hate. It is opposite day every day. There was no national security impetus to close Gitmo, no looming disaster, no short term incentive other than pissing off Republicans.

He was a sore winner.

Now fast forward to illegal immigration. There is no national security impetus, no looming disaster (other than the one caused by his previous non-enforcement), no short term incentive other than pissing off Republicans.

He is a sore loser.

The House should draft articles of impeachment against Obama for failing to enforce the laws of the land, present the articles to the lame-duck Democrats in the Senate, and see if they will vote.

The Democrats have learned twice now that Obama is a loser for them and a winner for him. They know they face 40 years in the desert if they can’t change how America views them. America is looking for someone to apply the brakes to the governmental juggernaut and right now, only the Repubs are willing to do it.

I say we give the Democrats, especially the recently fired ones, the opportunity to fire Obama. Obama would have no defense if a Repub house and Demo senate ousted him. That is the bipartisanship we need to see.

We already saw a caucus split with Pelosi. Maybe we can force one on Reid.

If it doesn’t work, then we wait for the next Congress and use budget reconciliation to send an Obamacare repeal bill to Obama. We force him to veto it. Then we submit it back to Congress to override the veto. The remaining Democrats, some of whom never had to vote for Obamacare, will now have to vote for Obamacare. In 2016, the Democrats who didn’t get fired this year will have to explain to their constituents why they voted for Obamacare again.

Maybe we let them know the plan up front. Either help us (the Republicans) or be collateral damage in 2016.

sgmstv on November 20, 2014 at 9:34 AM

Didn’t I tell you, you wouldn’t last. See you next time. Your not hard to spot.

Bmore on November 20, 2014 at 9:13 AM

lulz, they just can’t control themselves can they?

HumpBot Salvation on November 20, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Who is Obama helping?

Good question. As Donald Trump tweeted last month, O’Butthead is psycho. He has gone past the point of no return. He is our mad King Ludwig, except he’s a Jay-Z fan and not a Richard Wagner fan.

I was tired of him already back in 2007. At least there’s just two years left of this jackwad.

MisterElephant on November 20, 2014 at 10:00 AM

HumpBot Salvation on November 20, 2014 at 9:50 AM

Always ends the same way. Well….unless Allah does a stealth. Lolz! ; )

Bmore on November 20, 2014 at 10:04 AM

And thanks, Ed, for banning Useless Stupid Fox.

And to Useless Stupid Fox–I mentioned at the beginning that you would fizzle out quickly, and I was right.

Suck it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

MisterElephant on November 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM

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The Wise Fox on November 19, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Thank you Ed.

307wolverine on November 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM

FIFY

;^)

profitsbeard on November 20, 2014 at 1:55 AM

That too, and gracias!

Schadenfreude on November 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM

IRS is monitoring comment threads on conservative blogs

Star Bird on November 20, 2014 at 9:07 AM

OK, burn in Hell, you charlatanic thugs, you dancing ‘monkeys’. I will never forget that idiotic video, with you dancing, instead of working.

Bigger lice there never were, nor ever will be. Now, burn in Hell, in the hottest layer, you fools. YOU are living high on the backs of hard-working people and you dare to be thuggish? NO punishment will be harsh enough for you.

Schadenfreude on November 20, 2014 at 11:36 AM

#Gruber’s fellow alum, @RepGutierrez, at the School of ‘Shut up, you stupid, clueless Americans. We know better than you!’…says…

‘Americans Disapprove Of Obama’s Executive Amnesty Because They’re Clueless’

#PincheIdiota

Resist We Much on November 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM

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The Wise Fox on November 19, 2014 at 11:42 PM

I know that you are reading this. How many times did I warn you that manic-depressive racist rantings would result in Ed’s shiny brand new ban hammer rendering you nothing more than an unrecognisable mess of blood and matter?

Never, ever, ever say that I didn’t warn you…

…And, if you ever sneak back on HA, heed my warning.

#Caring

Resist We Much on November 20, 2014 at 12:50 PM

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The Wise Fox on November 19, 2014 at 11:42 PM

“Catch us the foxes, the little foxes that spoil the vineyard, for our vineyards are in blossom.” Song of Solomon 2:15

Cleombrotus on November 20, 2014 at 1:19 PM

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The Wise Fox on November 19, 2014 at 11:42 PM

Well, look at that.

Thanks, Ed. This person was some kind of paid agitator.

To all future trolls:

Beware Thor’s Mighty Hammer!

Brian1972 on November 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM

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The Wise Fox on November 19, 2014 at 11:42 PM

good job thanks ed,,,

OmahaConservative on November 20, 2014 at 6:09 PM

It doesn’t matter. Within a year we’ll see push-polls showing that — amazingly — the public is coming around to the prog view on the issue. Just as in gay marriage.

ddrintn on November 20, 2014 at 6:38 PM

USA Today party ID#’s

34% say they aren’t aligned with either party.
24% identify themselves as Republicans
32% say they’re Democrats.

Jason58 on November 20, 2014 at 6:56 PM

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The Wise Fox on November 19, 2014 at 11:42 PM

I took the liberty of signing his email address up for trials for about a dozen different dong-enhancement drugs. >X-D Good riddance, you snivelling a$$tard.

LawfulGood on November 20, 2014 at 10:56 PM

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