Besieged by stupid Americans, Media circles the wagons around Gruber

posted at 10:01 am on November 13, 2014 by Noah Rothman

How can you be certain the discovery of Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber’s repeated praise for the deception which resulted in the passage of the Affordable Care Act, and his acknowledgement of the “stupidity” of the American people to whom he and his Democratic allies successfully lied, is a major development? The media’s response to this revelation.

The videos, none of which were uncovered by any major news organization but by a previously anonymous investment advisor who found them hiding in plain sight on YouTube, feature Gruber denigrating the public his law purports to help. Yet, this has hardly merited a mention on the major networks. No nightly newscast has played the footage, and CBS News This Morning was the first network newscast to feature Gruber’s comments at all – and only just today.

Those in the center-left press who have deigned to debase themselves by addressing a story of interest to conservatives insist that there is nothing much to see here. Not only was Gruber’s admission that the ACA was designed to hide its true costs and impact on the American economy already widely known, they say, but that the American public is generally to blame for Gruber’s mendacity.

Calling his comments “the impolitic but ultimately unnewsworthy confessions of a single technocrat,” The New Republic’s Brian Beutler determined that the “finessing” of legislation is a common practice. “It’s true that the bill’s authors took steps to maximize its public appeal and minimize its vulnerabilities,” he noted. “Everyone writing significant legislation does this.”

Neil Irwin, writing in The New York Times, concurred that Gruber was essentially lamenting the existence of a system which lead politicians to craft laws that defraud scoring and oversight mechanisms and then brag getting one over on the public. “Mr. Gruber was, in an infelicitous way, expressing frustration with that state of affairs,” Irwin charitably explained.

“Jonathan Gruber was right,” The New York Times writer and MSNBC contributor Josh Barro insisted. “Public opinion on health care policy is just completely incoherent.” He later insisted that the public’s confusion “puts politicians in a position where the only thing they can do to make the public happy is lie and so, people lied.”

They hate it when they have to hurt you, so don’t make them do it.

Barro made these comments on the left-leaning network where Gruber flew to deliver a delayed apology only when it became clear the controversy was not simply going to go away. He made a smart decision in choosing MSNBC’s youngest host, Ronan Farrow, to serve as his interlocutor. After allowing Gruber to deliver an interruption-free soliloquy, Farrow resolved that Gruber’s comments, which displayed all the subtlety and refinement of a jackhammer, were really quite “nuanced.”

But the mainstream press would appreciate some credit for even covering this story in the first place. When Fox’s Howard Kurtz observed what he considered an inexplicable “media blackout” of the story, The Washington Post’s Philip Rucker indignantly countered by noting that his paper ran a front page, above the fold feature on this kerfuffle just today.

Excellent! Perhaps The Post shed some light on the fabrications which helped sell this law to the American people, or maybe it focused on this ACA architect’s contempt for the public – the fatal liberal conceit. The headline told the tale: “GOP’s anti-Obamacare push gains new momentum in wake of Gruber video.”

A week after Gruber’s controversial remarks were uncovered by a tenacious citizen journalist, The Post’s first foray into this fracas is to examine the threat it poses to the Affordable Care Act.

The story noted that the Beltway had determined the Republican Party abandoned anti-Obamacare messaging in the closing hours of the midterms, despite a Cook Political Report analysis which noted that “the anti-Obamacare message was the fourth most-mentioned issue or issue position in ad occurrences” in the closing weeks of the campaign season. The Post noted that Gruber’s remarks could rekindle a desire among Republicans to repeal the law, a desire which disappeared only in the minds of political reporters.

The political class is taking these revelations seriously; the White House has distanced itself from Gruber by saying he never played a key role in drafting legislation, while House and Senate Republicans are promising to review his remarks and perhaps even compel Gruber to testify under oath. Despite the fervor with which the media insists that they are not, the Gruber videos are a considerable matter.

Gruber’s controversial comments have reminded the public why they view the Affordable Care Act with as much suspicion as they do. This is a consequential development occurring at an auspicious moment for the law’s opponents, no matter how much the press seeks to deny it.


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So, according to the lefties, it’s okay that he lied, because he was doing it…..for the greater good.

Ummm…yeah.

Chris of Rights on November 13, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Those who seek to rule always feel that their own rulership is for the greatest good, and that those who defy their rulership are too stupid to understand how good it would be to be ruled over.

Star Bird on November 13, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Gruber’s controversial comments have reminded the public why they view the Affordable Care Act with as much suspicion as they do.

Just as the MSM’s silence has reminded the public why they view them with as much suspicion as they do.

Saverio on November 13, 2014 at 11:26 AM

Pelosi on Gruber: “I don’t know who he is. He didn’t help write our bill.”

Flora Duh on November 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM

It give me concern that Roberts was in on it. Otherwise, why did he do exactly what they wanted.

Bambi on November 13, 2014 at 11:08 AM

Roberts maybe socially conservative, but that does not make him a fiscal/economic conservative. Roberts is a compassionate conservative like the man who nominated him.

The Wise Fox on November 13, 2014 at 11:31 AM

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/18/rock-the-vote-tries-out-new-strategy-for-obamacare/

Getting harder to find this video all the time. Who’s more stupid, the millenials, or Eva Amurri, who, unwittingly was making prostitution one of the last economic resorts for so many of her generation?

Heh. No wonder why youtube scrubbed it.

WryTrvllr on November 13, 2014 at 11:32 AM

He didn’t call conservatives stupid- we weren’t fooled by the lies. Hes talking about liberals being stupid. They believed the lie.

drballard on November 13, 2014 at 11:33 AM

It is the JOB of mainstream media to deceive the public in order to advance its Marxist/progressive agenda. They should be heaping praise on Goober.

The Rogue Tomato on November 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM

The whores in the old media don’t realize that they are no longer relevant. Nobody reads their pontifications anymore. The internet destroyed their ability to black out a story and places such as facebook and twitter amped up the ability to rapidly send it out before it can be scrubbed. It’s the same with the cables. As long as Fox picks it up, word rapidly gets around too and then the radio shows pick it up. We have effectively made the rest of the LSM into an echo chamber where they only reinforce each other’s opinions and don’t realize that their audience has dwindled down to nearly a blip.

sayoung80913 on November 13, 2014 at 10:21 AM

The LSM still has enough power with “low-information voters” who gobble their schtick with no independent thought that they could cover up the Benghazi scandal, with CNN’s Candy Crowley injecting her lies into a Presidential debate, in order to re-elect Obama. They are eager to portray Fox News and talk-radio hosts as racist, chauvinist, right-wing nutjobs, even though they often own radio stations that broadcast Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. Follow the money! Advertisers pay big money for commercials on their shows, but the 40% who listen to Rush are not supposed to talk to the 60% who watch The View.

Gruber got caught in a candid “macaca moment” telling a supposedly-friendly audience what he didn’t want the “stupid” public to hear. Of course, since millions of people have “smart phones” equipped with video cameras, all it takes is one person who disagrees to film such a rant and post it on You Tube and it goes viral–there are “hot mics” everywhere!

As Fox News has reported, Gruber made these comments in October 2013 , about the time the Obamacare website was first launched (and having huge problems). Nobody in the LSM, or even Fox News, said anything about this for over a year, AFTER the 2014 midterms. If these videos had been revealed some months BEFORE the midterms, the Republican “wave” could have been much larger. The LSM did their duty (to Big Brother) in hushing this up.

Steve Z on November 13, 2014 at 11:38 AM

It is always interesting to have politicians fail to realize that momentum and majority in politics is always fleeting and that we almost always sow the seeds of our future destruction by forgetting that the raw exercise of power, will almost always create an exceedingly strong response.

Zomcon JEM on November 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM

“Unnewsworthy” is simply used here as code for “not useful”. To the left, valid journalism is that which furthers their agenda.

Reggie1971 on November 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM

beselfish on November 13, 2014 at 10:47 AM

disasters in the sense Obama left and no executive managerial experience.

Cruz and Paul same way to the right.

that’s my opinion

gerrym51 on November 13, 2014 at 11:49 AM

The media via “journolist” have rewritten their job description into just digging up dirt on conservative candidates, politicians, climate change deniers, or anyone who dares to speak out against their betters in government. The conservative media spends a good deal of time rebutting the left wing’s hatchet jobs. It’s a circle fire squad. Meanwhile, an average joe decides to look into the speeches of some of the writers of the ACA. Check the paper trail and voila! There it is. In other words, doing the job the media is supposed to be doing. What gives me hope is that where the old media and politicians would have just buried it and let it die, this guy simply posted it and blogs picked it up, making it go viral. First it was a nothing, then maybe a one line statement on page 16, then a story, then a segment on tv, and now to the White House trying to punt it. The new media forces the old to either catch up or become irrelevant. These places ARE businesses, they can’t carry Obama’s water forever. Only sychophants watch or read them anyway. No one in the center or to the right clicks on or opens up anything by these dinosaurs except to laugh at them

sayoung80913 on November 13, 2014 at 11:54 AM

obfuscating legislation of this magnitude to bypass CBO vetting is the real story, and once again everyone (including everyone here) is missing it, and letting the Dems whistle on by. Woolfing on November 13, 2014 at 11:05 AM

I wouldn’t doubt that this was discussed in so many words in a Dem leadership coven.

Akzed on November 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM

I wouldn’t doubt that this was discussed in so many words in a Dem leadership coven.

Akzed on November 13, 2014 at 11:56 AM

You think Romney had that conversation while he was in Mass-uh-chew-sits, Ak?

gryphon202 on November 13, 2014 at 12:02 PM

You think Romney had that conversation while he was in Mass-uh-chew-sits, Ak?

gryphon202 on November 13, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Nah, ’cause in MA they love being taxed for foolish government initiatives, so long as they’re “progressive.”

mankai on November 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Funny how this came out after the midterm election.

bgibbs1000 on November 13, 2014 at 12:19 PM

David Burge @iowahawkblog
The real scandal in Gruber’s remarks: that he could say them publicly, in the complete confidence that no major media would quote him.

Flora Duh on November 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM

This has bugged me since he said it. It’s wrong. And Twitchy picked it up: ‘Traitors.’ Iowahawk nails ‘the real scandal in Gruber’s remarks.’

I’m going to resist the urge to complain again about the cult of personality in this stuff, where you get lifted up for no other reason than being David Burge. Beyond this paragraph. :)

Gruber didn’t utter traitorous sentences and trust that he was fire-walled by a corrupt media.

It’s obvious that Gruber was thinking, and apparently has a habit of thinking, of “people” as a herd that needs to be manipulated, and felt completely comfortable talking about these things in front of the senseless cows. He was open, earnest, and oblivious. And that’s it.

There are good reasons for staking a flag in this.

Gruber is a model exhibit of Progressive elitism. Gruber’s attitude, shared by many in the government, to democratic process, is anathema. This is a warning of how laws are past. This is a warning of the attitudes and beliefs of the people passing the law. This is a warning — secondarily — of the worthlessness of the elite media. It’s also an explanation of their behavior: they think exactly like he does. I suppose it never entered into anyone’s mind to publish his remarks. That’s not the same thing as deliberately hiding them.

There’s a difference between being feared as a political enemy and being disdained with contempt, and we’re into disdain and contempt. Again, he hid nothing from peers who might disagree. He just talked in front of cows.

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Pelosi on Gruber: “I don’t know who he is. He didn’t help write our bill.”

Flora Duh on November 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM

Right. “Our bill.” From a woman who couldn’t tell you what was in it.

———-

WHO, EXACTLY, WROTE THE BILL, NANCY?

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:25 PM

Mark Levin – “Mitt Romney Used Jonathan Gruber Before Obama – Sorry!”

conservativeBC on November 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:21 PM

+ 100..Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on November 13, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:21 PM

+ 100..Hear!..Hear!..:)

Dire Straits on November 13, 2014 at 12:31 PM

Oh..I forgot..*tip fedora*..:):)

Dire Straits on November 13, 2014 at 12:32 PM

The Post noted that Gruber’s remarks could rekindle a desire among Republicans to repeal the law, a desire which disappeared only in the minds of political reporters [and the Vichy GOP leadership turds].

Edited for accuracy.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 13, 2014 at 12:33 PM

Oh..I forgot..*tip fedora*..:):)

Dire Straits on November 13, 2014 at 12:32 PM

rotf :)

Sir. :)

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:35 PM

“You Lie!”….most prophetic statement ever made about Obama and this administration

jaywemm on November 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Pelosi Says She Doesn’t Know Who Gruber Is, Denies He Helped Write The Bill – Update: In 2010 Pelosi Touted Gruber On Her Website

Star Bird on November 13, 2014 at 12:34 PM

You rock.

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Found this as a reference Gruber used in a paper at MIT where he lists himself as a paid Ocare consultant:

Congressional Budget Office, 2010b. “H.R. 4872, Reconciliation Act of 2010.” Letter to the
Honorable Nancy Pelosi (March 18). Congressional Budget Office, Washington, DC,
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc11355/hr4872.pdf

The pdf is no longer available at CBO.

Not sure if goes anywhere.

mankai on November 13, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Have a nice day..:)

Dire Straits on November 13, 2014 at 12:43 PM

BOYCOT

soapyjeans on November 13, 2014 at 12:45 PM

Mark Levin – “Mitt Romney Used Jonathan Gruber Before Obama – Sorry!”

conservativeBC on November 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM

I’ve been saying that for years. *yawn*

gryphon202 on November 13, 2014 at 12:47 PM

BOYCOT lamestream media. Lets hold their lying feet to the fire! Make them answer for protecting obamabots!!! Tune them out, Turn them off. Run ads showing their duplicity! Do commercials/ads/print media etc. Show their pictures, air their lies of omission showing a counter clock (how long they haven’t reported on latest obama scandal)!

soapyjeans on November 13, 2014 at 12:48 PM

Nah, ’cause in MA they love being taxed for foolish government initiatives, so long as they’re “progressive.”

mankai on November 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Good point. The question follows then why We the People thought that a former MA governor would make a good Republican president.

gryphon202 on November 13, 2014 at 12:49 PM

“You Lie!”….most prophetic statement ever made about Obama and this administration

jaywemm on November 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM

It’s a shame Joe Wilson was pressured to apologize by the collaborating Vichy GOP turds. But, that’s a good example of how the Weeping Boner and the cowards and traitors in the GOP have had Barky’s back since the 2010 election.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on November 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM

*past = passed.

Hmmmm. That one might be Freaudian, lol. :)

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:51 PM

Guber’s cousin reacts.

Wade on November 13, 2014 at 12:51 PM

*Freaudian = Freudian

omg.

. . . I’m going for a sandwich.

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM

There’s a difference between being feared as a political enemy and being disdained with contempt, and we’re into disdain and contempt. Again, he hid nothing from peers who might disagree. He just talked in front of cows.

Axe on November 13, 2014 at 12:21 PM

Exactly.

His remarks say that he effectively divides opinions on ObamaCare into 3 groups:

1. You opposed it because you weren’t stupid enough, therefore you had to be demonized and defeated.

2. You supported it because you were stupid enough to be used. He’s thankful for your support, but also contemptuous. He likes you and will try to be good to you and all, but only in the same way one might like a lost dog. It’s not like you’re a people or anything.

3. You supported it because you were willing to be dishonest in service to a preferred political end, and he’s proud of you, you’re just like him.

The liberal defense of this guy makes me feel like “Whoa guys, did the Republicans suddenly hire you to do oppo research for them? I’d hate to think you’re producing evidence against the progressive agenda this priceless and not even getting lunch money out of the deal.”

So why aren’t there swarms of Democrats absolutely furious about this? The fact that there aren’t argues that he was 100% correct. He had nothing to worry about, he was speaking in front of cows. Moreover, the lack of response argues that they know they’re cows, they’re secretly proud of it, and they wish you’d shut up about it. Because shaming is bad and all, you know.

Liberals are a shame culture, conservatives are a guilt culture. That’s half the reason why we talk past each other so much.

GrumpyOldFart on November 13, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Liberals are a shame culture, conservatives are a guilt culture. That’s half the reason why we talk past each other so much.

GrumpyOldFart on November 13, 2014 at 12:56 PM

Brilliant analysis!

gryphon202 on November 13, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Here is a letter to Dem leaders from 2010 containing Gruber’s signature (which also references him directly) that The New Republic proudly posted:

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/the-treatment/47-health-policy-experts-including-me-say-sign-the-senate-bill

mankai on November 13, 2014 at 1:03 PM

Nobody in the LSM, or even Fox News, said anything about this for over a year, AFTER the 2014 midterms. If these videos had been revealed some months BEFORE the midterms, the Republican “wave” could have been much larger. The LSM did their duty (to Big Brother) in hushing this up.

This assumes facts not in evidence: that the LSM and Fox News were aware of these videos BEFORE 2014, even though the recordings are dated 2012 and 2013. It took an enterprising young man who had a lot of skin in the game to uncover these videos in order to prove a point. We may lament the fact that these news outlets were not as diligent, but laxity does not equal complicity.

ricoliv on November 13, 2014 at 1:04 PM

Same letter in the obscure New York Time’s files:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/01/22/health/adopt_senate_bill_final.2.pdf

mankai on November 13, 2014 at 1:06 PM

Celebrate the goons.

Schadenfreude on November 13, 2014 at 1:08 PM

Just remember everyone — The cons and libertarians never believed any of the bs that Gruber was selling. So when he called the American Voters stupid — he was talking about Democrats, and I think we can all agree on that sentiment.

Munchen on November 13, 2014 at 1:09 PM

Who wants to bet that any existing videos of Gruber giving talks that haven’t been uncovered yet will be scrubbed from the Internet?

Good thing we have all we need already.
Funny how the Gruber videos are nothing burgers, but the Nakoula Basseley Nakoula video….. well, that was the sole cause of the Benghazi siege, don’t ya know.

LonePalm on November 13, 2014 at 1:11 PM

Stupid Americans voted in Obama twice…

yes we did. we are stupid!

gerrym51 on November 13, 2014 at 10:05 AM

Not we. I didn’t vote for this and knew crap was coming when obola took office. The only thing that I’m guilty of is voting for the Gonadless Old Poops party.

wifarmboy on November 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Gwuubaa power!

Sherman1864 on November 13, 2014 at 1:27 PM

Hmm. Conspicuous in their absence — our usual gaggle of stupid voters/commenters ready to defend their stupid defense of Obamacare.

Probably off whistlin’ past a graveyard or sumpin’ similar.

Closet Optimist on November 13, 2014 at 1:53 PM

the old media is caught between a rock and a hard place. they failed to do what they should have, and now the cat is out of the bag.

RonK on November 13, 2014 at 2:12 PM

“puts politicians in a position where the only thing they can do to make the public happy is lie and so, people lied.”

“Make the public happy.” ?? Is he freaking serious? Does he remember the way this law polled during the time the Dems used every trick in the book to pass it?

These people are beyond the freaking pale. They have no shame and will never back down. To win any argument we always have two opponents – the Democrats and the popular media.

Long Legged MacDaddy on November 13, 2014 at 2:53 PM

A thought experiment….

Several videos have recently surfaced showing the author of the patriot act discussing how the GOP crafted the legislation specifically to deny the worst aspects of it to see the light of day until after it had passed the republican controlled congress and was signed into law by President Bush. The author made comments referring to the American voter as “complete morons who would happily give up whatever freedoms we want them to as long as we don’t tell them about it up front”.

The Washington post did their level best to ignore the story when the first year-old videos started coming out via YouTube. When they did finally address the story, they determined that it was a non-story since all major legislation has to be passed this way due to the dysfunctional nature of Washington and the democrat’s total hatred of Bush and anything he tries to do.

Does anyone think the above would happen in a million years? And yet, it is happening right before our very eyes. THIS is why they think we’re so stupid.

runawayyyy on November 13, 2014 at 3:05 PM

White House has distanced itself from Gruber by saying he never played a key role in drafting legislation…
If that’s true, what was he paid $400,000 for?

laabckids on November 13, 2014 at 4:04 PM

How can you really argue with Gruber’s assessment of US citizens as mentally challenged given that they elected Obama as their president twice. Gruber may be an arrogant horses ass but that doesn’t make him wrong.

Nomas on November 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/13/obamacare-architect-ted-kennedy-ripped-off-medicaid-video/

The story begins in Massachusetts where Gruber helped create the state’s universal health law, now known as Romneycare.

“We had a pretty powerful senator you may have heard of named Ted Kennedy,” Gruber said during an event at Simmons College in February. ”Ted Kennedy had managed to figure out a way to rip off the federal Medicaid program to the tune of about $500 million a year through a series of strange manipulations.

“Here was Mitt Romney’s dirty little secret that we don’t like to talk about in Massachusetts, which is the way we passed our law is the federal government paid for it.

“George Bush said why am I sending this Democrat $500 million a year, I’m taking it back,” Gruber explained, adding “Mitt Romney to his credit went to George Bush and said, look, can we keep the money if we use it for universal coverage. And Bush to his credit said yes.”

“We realized that we can’t do this at the state level anymore,” said Gruber. “The feds are going to have to get involved.”

vindication for many of us.

dmacleo on November 13, 2014 at 7:51 PM

shoot I posted that in wrong thread

dmacleo on November 13, 2014 at 8:04 PM

The “Circle of wagons” won’t protect him.
They’re coming for him.
Remember Vince Foster?

Sgt Stryker on November 13, 2014 at 9:02 PM

then brag getting one over on the public

…then brag about putting one over on the public…

Are you a native English speaker?
Your substance is interesting, but your style is … nuanced.

AesopFan on November 13, 2014 at 11:07 PM

Liberals are a shame culture, conservatives are a guilt culture. That’s half the reason why we talk past each other so much.

GrumpyOldFart on November 13, 2014 at 12:56 PM

The other half is that Liberals think Conservatives are not just wrong but evil.
Conservatives know Leftists are not only wrong but really are evil.

Actually, if Libs are shamers and Cons are guilters, then it’s a perfect S-M match-up.

Which is why the country is in so much trouble.

AesopFan on November 13, 2014 at 11:10 PM

We told them they were being “resettled” to the east, and then we told them it was a shower and that afterwards they would have a nice mug of tea and be put to work.

Just the words of a technocrat.

Rixon on November 14, 2014 at 4:11 AM

When Fox’s Howard Kurtz observed what he considered an inexplicable “media blackout” of the story, The Washington Post’s Philip Rucker indignantly countered by noting that his paper ran a front page, above the fold feature on this kerfuffle just today.

WAPO launched the lie that Pelosi took up and then repeated: that “Gruber apologized” while he’s done nothing of the sort.

Gruber appeared comfortably ensconced on MSNBC and said he “regretted” his remarks, or similar. But he never retracted his remarks, revised them or otherwise “apologized” for what he said — he’s only “regret(ful)” for them being recorded and rebroadcast in media outside the ensconced environments where he made them originally.

There’s no retraction, revision or “apology” been made by Gruber. The WAPO, however, with it’s eager story about this issue, made that distortion — that Gruber “apologized” — and then Nancy Pelosi repeated that along with her other various absurdities.

Lourdes on November 14, 2014 at 7:49 AM

Do you see what the Dems have done here? Their fooling everyone. The real news on Gruber isn’t that he called Americans stupid. The left has their spin ready for that. The news is that the law was written, by Gruber’s own admission, to deceive the Congressional Budget Office. The CBO is not “the American people”. This is a very serious distinction, and the Dems are keen to keep all eyes on his insult to the average Joe, because that can be spun as “sausage making”. However obfuscating legislation of this magnitude to bypass CBO vetting is the real story, and once again everyone (including everyone here) is missing it, and letting the Dems whistle on by.

Woolfing on November 13, 2014 at 11:05 AM

And that’s a winner of an observation. BECAUSE what Gruber DID, and has boasted about doing afterward, was he committed fraud, and he detailed a method by which others could and did commit fraud upon the taxpayers/citizens of this nation (via intentionally misleading the CBO).

The Dems are making this all about Gruber…Gruber-this, Gruber-that, ignore Gruber, he’s a nobody…

While OBVIOUSLY “Obamacare” as it’s now passed into law was done so by intentional fraud.

In that context, Gruber’s obnoxious boasts are accurate, that “the people” who pushed, voted for, advanced and supported Obamacare ARE “stupid” because they were taken in by such an outrageous fraud as Gruber knew it to be and as everyone who supported it appears to have been aware, too.

Someone mentioned Stupak earlier in comments. Stupak could have been, if one wants to extend him anything, “deceived” by voting for Obamacare (while, the story goes, believing the prolife reservations would be respected, maintained) (but they weren’t afterward, as it was revealed), but I think it was more of the fraud involved. Stupak got no assurances that meant anything, just opted to go along with some Tall Tale that “everyone would be insured, affordably and well” and all the rest. I think Stupak was part of the fraud, that I also attribute to all those who voted for this mess. Democrats were either complicit or stupid, to put it bluntly. Or, for a third option, were incompetent to notice the fraud or to complain about it for whatever reasons.

No Republican voted for it — and me along with every single Republican I read/heard from about Obamacare stridently opposed it and for very substantial reasons.

So the “stupid people” of issue here are the Left, and the fraud is on them.

Lourdes on November 14, 2014 at 7:57 AM

The press is number one on the list of those to blame for any ‘stupidity’ extant in the American public. It is their duty as the ‘Fourth Estate’ to reveal the facts and unravel the complexities so that the people are not ignorant of the underhanded plans of politicians and bureaucrats like Gruber.

The press is complicit in the deceptions coming out of Washington D.C. these days, and that is why so many of us do not trust them at all.

This story is simply one more confirmation, and one more reason not to watch news on TV, or read newspapers.

s1im on November 14, 2014 at 8:31 AM

We told them they were being “resettled” to the east, and then we told them it was a shower and that afterwards they would have a nice mug of tea and be put to work.

Just the words of a technocrat.

Rixon on November 14, 2014 at 4:11 AM

Yes, a very accurate use of past history to reveal current amorality, such as Gruber (and the Leftmedia) typify.

“Work will set you free.”

“You can keep your doctor.”

“Everyone will have healthcare…easy-peezy.”

We’re just going to take you on a happy ride to a pleasant vacation location where you’ll be helped by friendly counselors…”

Lourdes on November 14, 2014 at 8:45 AM

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