Great new media meme: Big win for GOP will fracture the party
posted at 7:21 pm on October 30, 2014 by Ed Morrissey
What’s the best metric to determine whether a wave election is coming? The generic Congressional ballot margins in polls certainly can give us an indication, as can presidential approval ratings and polling from different states. Sudden changes in policy direction might be another signal for those paying attention. Chris Cillizza wonders how one even defines a wave election:
By a slightly-more-specific definition, a wave election is dominated by a single national issue and where a party not only makes substantial gains in House, Senate and gubernatorial races but also has candidates win who, in a more neutral national environment, would have no chance to do so. Stu Rothenberg, a Fix friend and political handicapper extraordinaire, offers this handy description:
For me, the “political wave” metaphor evokes the image of a surging ocean wave that is much larger than normal and deposits debris that otherwise would not have made it ashore without the violent surf.
Politically, that translates into an election surge that is strong enough to sweep candidates who wouldn’t ordinarily win – because of the make-up of their districts or the limited funding of their campaigns, for example – to victory.
Using that definition of a wave election makes it considerably more debatable whether 2014 is (or will become) one.
Well, whether one wants to call it a wave or not — and by Rothenberg’s calculus, 2006 might not qualify — Republicans appear to be on the cusp of a very large win nationally. In fact, that’s not even really in question anymore, but whether or not the win will be large enough to take control of the Senate. That would require a flip in Senate seats equal to 2006 and 2010, the latter of which was definitely a wave election. Still, even with all of the national indicators showing fair winds and sunny skies for the GOP, each race is its own contest, and it’s not clear yet just how big this win might be.
Fortunately, we have another metric — the media’s Sour Grapes Index, in which analysts posit that a big win is really a loss, or that a loss is really a big win. That metric got a boost today with separate but similar articles in The Hill and National Journal predicting a Republican civil war after a big win on Tuesday. The Hill headlines Alexander Bolton’s piece, “Civil war looms for GOP”:
The problem for Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and other GOP leaders is that they will also face pressure to govern — which could involve cooperating with President Obama to keep the government operating and turn legislation into law.
They also must contend with a Senate map that will force the GOP to defend 24 seats in 2016, compared to just 10 for Democrats. Republicans facing reelection include senators from New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois and other states where Democrats could have an advantage — particularly in a presidential election year when turnout is high.
McConnell this week appeared to manage expectations for Republican rule, when he cautioned it would be difficult to repeal ObamaCare as long as Obama is in office.
“Well, it would take 60 votes in the Senate — nobody thinks we’re going to have 60 Republicans — and it would take a presidential signature, and no one thinks we’re going to get that,” he told Fox News host Neil Cavuto. “So the question is: What can you do about it?”
McConnell suggested it would be better to go after unpopular parts of the law rather than a full repeal, a position some conservatives saw as a capitulation.
If that’s the basis of a civil war, then it’s not going to be much of a battle. Even if the Republicans ran the table on Tuesday, they wouldn’t have enough votes to override a Barack Obama veto on a repeal of ObamaCare. Going after it in the budget is nearly impossible, since much of its funding is statutory rather than appropriation-based, as was the case last year in the attempt to force a standoff over the FY2014 budget. The only way to repeal ObamaCare now is to maintain control of Congress and elect a Republican President in 2016, and nearly everyone understands that.
Norm Ornstein writes at NJ that winning the Senate will splinter the party, in a battle for the GOP’s soul:
The desire of McCarthy and other GOP leaders to avoid a characterization of their party as the party of no—of obstructionism but no ideas—by showing an ability to govern, will come into conflict with a GOP base that wants to continue the take-no-prisoners approach that worked so well in 2010, and again, if this scenario prevails, in 2014. And the presidential campaign will give added traction to the primary and caucus voters who are dominated by the hardest of hardliners, and the collection of presidential candidates who will pound away against the Common Core, immigration legislation, any taxes, or any spending except for defense and the border.
I do not think this means total gridlock. The ability to pass some things that are a bit below the radar, like trade and prison reform, is clear. There is a smaller chance of passing things like an infrastructure bank, or an increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit. There is a smaller chance yet of enacting some form of bipartisan tax reform. What about the kind of deal Rob Portman pitched to The Atlantic’s Molly Ball—acceptance of the Keystone pipeline in return for a bipartisan agreement on reductions in carbon emissions? Try to get that through the House!
Finally, I have to at least mention the “I” word. I have talked off the record to some aides to tea-party Republicans in the House, who say that they are getting a lot of push from their activist voters to impeach the president. They, like their leaders, know how catastrophic that would be for Republicans heading into 2016 and will do what they can to head off any such move by hotheads. But if we assume that the president, determined to enhance and extend his legacy, implements major executive orders on immigration and climate change, there will be howls of outrage from the base and many lawmakers, and the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Erick Erickson, and Laura Ingraham will not be holding them back. More than likely, neither would Ted Cruz. Another challenge for House and Senate Republican leaders to keep their party from veering off the edge.
Both parties have their challenges. But the most interesting ones to watch will be those between and among a Republican Senate, a Republican House, and a set of Republican presidential candidates pulling the party’s center of gravity further to the right—meaning the tension between setting out and making concrete a positive agenda for governing and the pressure to continue to block and obstruct will be very, very high.
None of this is far off base, of course, and some of it will be interesting to watch unfold. But the overall premise assumes that the GOP hasn’t been dealing with these struggles already. Of course they have; in fact, it’s been a very public process ever since losing the 2012 election. We’ve been hearing about Republican civil wars, the Tea Party splitting away, and a fatal schism between the so-called establishment and the grassroots for at least that long, and perhaps as long as the first budget showdown after the Republican majority took its place in the House in January 2011.
And yet here the Republicans are, not just holding that majority but threatening to take control of the Senate while Democrats stumble over the ineptitude of Barack Obama and his White House team. The GOP will have some tough choices to make, certainly, if they gain control of the Senate, in some of the areas that Ornstein notes. But they will also have pushed Democrats out of control of the entire legislative agenda and stripped Obama of his shield against GOP initiatives reaching his desk. His agenda and those of his party, which Obama explicitly declared were on the ballot, would have been repudiated, and with it any pretense of having a mandate.
Certainly the GOP would rather be in that position than losing another cycle, which would be much more likely to create a schism/civil war between the coalitions on the Right. The better question will be whether that happens to Democrats, who are now experiencing similar tensions between progressive activists and more practical “establishment” figures of their own, along with the added baggage of an increasingly unpopular President.
Instead, the media seems to be focused on trying to sell a Republican win as a Republican loss. The more we see the increase in the Sour Grapes index, the more likely a wave election appears.
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It seemed to do wonders for the Democrats.
portlandon on October 30, 2014 at 7:24 PM
Concerned Trills are concerned.
HumpBot Salvation on October 30, 2014 at 7:24 PM
Wed. Nov 5, 2014
Seven Percent Solution on October 30, 2014 at 7:28 PM
I’m still not convinced there is a wave.
Cindy Munford on October 30, 2014 at 7:34 PM
Next headline: A Wave Election Proves Obama Is Doing All The Right Things
2lbsTest on October 30, 2014 at 7:37 PM
Last year McConnell said most of Obamacare could be repealed via reconciliation which only requires 51 votes.
Sure, the pissant in the WH would veto it but at least it would get to his desk.
Why is McConnell changing his story?
The civil war will come if the GOPe refuses to do anything to undo the damage the Democrats have caused and instead start immediately focusing on 2016.
Charlemagne on October 30, 2014 at 7:39 PM
LOL.
portlandon on October 30, 2014 at 7:41 PM
The Lexington Herald newspaper is already running stories about how McConnell is going to destroy the Republican Party when he gets reelected.
Their weird science reasons run all over the map, but the central plank seems to be that the Tea Party will turn on him and force him to introduce Republican killing majority legislation like the repeal of Obamacare and somehow privatizing Social Security like Bush allegedly did. At some point in this entire mess the Republican Party will fracture and out right Civil War will ensue.
Oh that and McConnell is benefitting from an obscene amount of “dark” money that somehow cant be traced but the reporter managed to get an interview with the CEO of the shadowy quasi illegal Citizen United organization.
Johnnyreb on October 30, 2014 at 7:42 PM
I am not convinced either Cindy.
CoffeeLover on October 30, 2014 at 7:42 PM
Great new media meme: Big win for GOP will fracture the party
That will depend on how the GOP proceeds on certain key issues if they get the majority in both chambers.
predator on October 30, 2014 at 7:45 PM
the party is ALREADY fractured.
the rinos who ignore and undermine the platform and philosophy for power and lobbyist bribes vs principled conservatives who actually support the platform, and believe in the philosophy and values.
this is nothing new, the only twist is the rinos will be destroying the party because of the decades of amnesty that is finally coming home to roost.
even a so called “wave” election is not going to change the fact that in a couple more election cycles there will be a permanent democrat voting majority.
Garyinaz66 on October 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM
If the GOP takes the Senate then I think they should bypass sending bills to the president and deem them signed. Totally ignore the One and fund each department with separate budgets. Constitutional crisis? We already have one so what difference would it make now.
Jackson on October 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM
The most likely thing to fracture the GOP is for Jeb Bush to be the 2016 nominee.
bw222 on October 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM
Makes me wonder why an electoral wave for the Democrats would never result in a fractured party…oh, wait, no it doesn’t. They are all in lockstep with one another and drum out anyone who doesn’t toe the line.
In fact, Dems are so uptight about being out of step with their fellows, that they feel the need to spew out the most outlandish drivel in order to outdo the last piece of outlandish drivel and renew their fealty cred.
Left Coast Right Mind on October 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM
Obama has made a huge mess but the Republicans have done nothing to make the public think that they can or even want to do anything different. Except punch their base in the nose. That’s always helpful.
Cindy Munford on October 30, 2014 at 7:52 PM
Dang. You are good at this Ed.
JusDreamin on October 30, 2014 at 7:53 PM
Oh how I love watching them squirm.
The Notorious G.O.P on October 30, 2014 at 7:53 PM
Conservatives may “fracture”, but one thing is assured; they’ll undo a lot of the damage done by Democrats.
But let’s not talk about that!
GarandFan on October 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM
lets take our chances
rob verdi on October 30, 2014 at 7:59 PM
You mean the GOP isn’t already fractured beyond repair?
You won’t see a GOP president in your life time. 2012 was the last chance..hope I’m wrong
And by life time…I mean forever.
Redford on October 30, 2014 at 8:01 PM
I do so love the classics
JusDreamin on October 30, 2014 at 8:02 PM
Wasn’t it just a few years ago these same people were saying Republicans were done for any election for at least the next 20 years or so?
The Notorious G.O.P on October 30, 2014 at 8:03 PM
Isn’t this the media telling us what they plan to do. Divide and Conquer.
earlgrey133 on October 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM
Dear Kentucky,
A vote for McConnell is a vote for Obama.
K. Hobbit on October 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM
I hope the GOP has a “wave” election next Tuesday..I think (and hope) the fracturing of the GOP has been “over-hyped” by MSM..They better make sure the Dems Party does not implode..:)
Dire Straits on October 30, 2014 at 8:10 PM
What do Republicans stand for? Not being Obama didn’t work for Romney in 2012. It may well work for the GOP in 2014 because Obama is so unpopular. But, I doubt it will work again in 2016.
bw222 on October 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM
Redford you’re drunk.
CW on October 30, 2014 at 8:14 PM
Democrats should vote for Republican candidates. Surely it would be great for them if the GOP splinters.
corkie on October 30, 2014 at 8:20 PM
Yes, there is already a civil war in progress in the Republican party.
The establishment is just another branch of the government that works hand and hand with the democrats.
People need to wake up and realize that government is not your friend.
If the establishment tries to push Mitt on us again – we are leaving and really don’t give a shit.
We will have to form our own government to fight the federal government. Call us rebels or whatever but the shit we got going on in DC won’t cut it much longer.
redguy on October 30, 2014 at 8:20 PM
How exactly will they do that?
corkie on October 30, 2014 at 8:21 PM
“Dog Eater planned this all along.”
Bishop on October 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM
Dear Kentucky, A vote for McConnell is a vote against Harry Reid.
Barred on October 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM
Dear Kentucky:
I like your booze.
Bishop on October 30, 2014 at 8:30 PM
If the Republicans do win, expect to see more headlines like “Democrats call for healing, bipartisanship” and other crapola.
Brian in Titletown on October 30, 2014 at 8:33 PM
“After huge GOP gains, experts ponder whether or not people in middle America deserve to vote.”
Bishop on October 30, 2014 at 8:36 PM
Best wishes to all you Republicans. I sincerely hope that taking the Senate results in a different direction for the GOP than it has taken in recent years.
I suspect any conservatives left in the Party will spend the next two years listening to the GOP establishment revile them at the same time they’re courted for donation dollars.
I also think by the time 2016 rolls around, the GOP will have “reformed ” itself and publicly thrown off the reactionary, homophobic racist nativist Tea Party faction so that Democrats may love them again and feel comfortable voting for the “centrist” Republican Party.
But Obamacare stays. Oh yes. It stays.
Dolce Far Niente on October 30, 2014 at 8:37 PM
I’m afraid of the potential wave of fraud and it pisses me off. Years to flush voter rolls of ineligible people, “faulty” voting machines and boxes of “misplaced” ballots when the tally is tight. In between cycles, nothing is done to correct it.
Mimzey on October 30, 2014 at 8:44 PM
Add to Ed’s point:
Kirsten Powers claimed this morning that a year ago everyone thought the GOP would win many more seats than they are now, or some such.
And Chris Matthews claims we will win 10 Senate seats. So that when we only win 7 our take over of the Senate will seem like a loss.
Do you remember last year anyone at all who suggested the GOP would win big this year? Anyone?
It is ridiculous.
petunia on October 30, 2014 at 8:54 PM
The PERFECT example of a Democrat plant! Thank you for proving that the people who come here and claim to be conservative are Democrat plants.
petunia on October 30, 2014 at 8:56 PM
No, we were told that the government shutdown ruined our chance to take the Senate.
corkie on October 30, 2014 at 9:01 PM
They can come up with better spin than that.
supernova on October 30, 2014 at 9:01 PM
Gee, sounds like the 1960s all over again, doesn’t it…
Newtie and the Beauty on October 30, 2014 at 9:06 PM
With control of both Houses of Congress, Republicans could de-fund lots of the subsidies, or vote to shift funding back toward Medicare, from which a lot of Obamacare money was taken. Funding could also be attached to an overall bill to fund Health and Human Services, which could then be sent to Obama on an all-or-nothing, take-it-or-leave-it basis.
Other measures that could be taken, such as de-funding the EPA, could also be attached to budget resolutions, which can be passed by “reconciliation” with a 51-vote Senate majority over Democrat opposition. Although Obama could veto such budgets, Republicans could then blame Obama for any government shutdown, since the Congress is united in how the Government should be funded, and Harry Reid could not prevent such measures from being voted.
If Republicans are smart (no guarantee of that!) they can portray the 2015-16 period as “Obama vs. the rest of the country” going into 2016, with Democrats being the stumbling block to getting things done.
Steve Z on October 30, 2014 at 9:11 PM
I’m looking forward to some congressional hearings with a large number of deponents, under oath, explaining Fast & Furious, the many very serious IRS scandals, Benghazi lies, various releases of secure government information to damage political opponents, and some of those crony deals that have come down in the last six years. And not at a glacial pace either. Let’s see if the GOP can hold their feet to the fire up until 2016.
Viator on October 30, 2014 at 9:48 PM
I agree they could possibly stop the subsidies..And with a GOP Senate and House they could also possibly stop the bailout of the Health Insurance companies..:)
PS..The reason I say possibly is because Obie would veto this..But it is a fight very much worth having..:)
Dire Straits on October 30, 2014 at 10:15 PM
And yet the liberal “conservatives” on The Five said the GOP needed a big win to shut down the teabaggers.
Happy Nomad on October 30, 2014 at 10:35 PM
The democrat media will say/do anything to try to divide the Republican Party. They will spin anything as a negative for us. So, ignore it.
Win, then worry.
MN J on October 30, 2014 at 11:15 PM
If the GOP wins the senate, the media must declare that the majority of the people in those states are racist. There is no other conclusion that can be draw from the win.
MikeM on October 31, 2014 at 12:16 AM
Wow – the GOP must be on track for a win of epic size. The Left is already spinning the election results harder than they’re even trying to encourage their side to vote.
Of course there is the potential for such a GOP win that they think they can discard the “riff raff” TP types and snuggle up to the Dems in the name of bi-partisanship. I always wonder why when the GOP is in the majority they are expected to work WITH the Dems but it never seems to work the other way. Wouldn’t it be better to use a majority to try and do some of the things the GOP supposedly thinks are better than the cr*p the Left is pushing?
katiejane on October 31, 2014 at 7:26 AM
A civil war in the GOP might be a good thing, if only to switch out it’s do-nothing leadership.
virgo on October 31, 2014 at 11:58 PM
Fractures are likely.
The big issue we all have to see coming is that when we win the election the evangelicals are going to try and turn everything into a referendum about abortion rights.
No offense to them… but this faction of the party has a tendency to hijack everything and make everything about their largely hopeless social issues. And every time they succeed in pissing away all the power the republicans have been able to cobble together… and then we’re dealing with democrat majorities again after having accomplished NOTHING.
I’m frankly tired of it. I’d like for the social issues republicans to just let the fiscal republicans have a TRY at holding onto power and making some sort of positive contribution before hijacking everything. The tea party was not about abortion rights. It was not about your bible. It was not about any of the social issues. It was about taxes, government overreach, corruption, etc. Not a social issue to be found anywhere in there.
And I know they’re not going to accept this… I know they’re going to see this as another moment where they can try to change everything as if some how one wave election is all they’ll need to reverse their legislative fortunes.
And that is going to cause a fracture because it is going to piss off fiscal conservatives like myself horribly.
I am just about despairing at our ability to get real change in this country because the dysfunction in the republican party means that when we win… we self destruct… every single time.
I know this is offensive to social cons. I regret that. I don’t want to make you guys mad. But… this is a thing you’re doing and it is screwing everyone.
Just saying. The fracture is likely.
Karmashock on November 1, 2014 at 5:51 AM