Whiplash: Politifact absolves Democrat who repeated…Politifact’s lie of the year

posted at 1:21 pm on September 30, 2014 by Guy Benson

Politifact, the heavily left-leaning political fact-checking oufit, has truly outdone itself.  The organization crowned President Obama as the 2013 recipient of its annual “lie of the year” designation for his tireless efforts to mislead Americans about being able to keep their existing healthcare plans under Obamacare.  While richly deserved, the decision came as a bit of a surprise because Politifact had rated that exact claim as “half true” in 2012, and straight-up “true” in 2008 (apparently promises about non-existent bills can be deemed accurate).  When Republicans leveled accurate criticisms against Obamacare, they were slapped down by America’s most partisan alleged arbiter of “facts:”

cantor factcheck

Even after pulling an about-face by labeling Obama’s “keep your plan” assurance as the biggest political lie of an entire year, Politifact stood behind its “mostly false” determination on Cantor’s quote, calling it “overly broad.”  Which brings us to yet another pungent Politifact call against another Virginia Republican.  GOP Senate nominee Ed Gillespie is running a television ad that hits Sen. Mark Warner for repeating the “keep your plan” fib:

The spot includes a video clip of Warner promising constituents that he’d oppose any healthcare bill “that’s going to take away heathcare that you’ve got right now, or a healthcare plan that you like.” He then voted for Obamacare, which did precisely that — with 250,000 more cancellation notices landing in Virginians’ mailboxes earlier this month.  Gillespie’s campaign played the smoking gun tape and called the incumbent on it.  An open and shut case.  Not so fast, objects Politifact.  The ad is “false:”

PolitiFact National never mentioned Warner in handing out the award. In articles and videos, our colleagues focused the award on Obama’s insistence over the years that under the ACA, “If you like your health care plan, you can keep it.” The statements and the circumstances behind them are not clones. The president had far greater power in shaping the law that bears his name than the senator. Warner didn’t repeat his pledge after he voted for the ACA in 2009.

Um, Warner voted for the bill and urged his Democratic colleagues to do the same (every one of them complied).  Regardless of his relative power in “shaping the law,” he made an ironclad promise to the people of Virginia, then guaranteed the passage of a law that violated that promise.  And the whole point of the pledge was to mitigate public opposition to the law prior to its passage.  Good grief.  In a follow-up item justifying their howler of a rating, Politifact achieved peak hackery:

Warner essentially says he couldn’t keep his 2009 pledge because he was blindsided by Obama. “Once the law was implemented, it quickly became clear that this provision had been implemented in such a way that many individuals were having their plans cancelled, despite the administration’s promise,” David Turner, a spokesman for Warner’s campaign, wrote to us in email. Turner referred to fact checks published by…PolitiFact National in early August 2009, around the time Warner made his pledge. Both gave credence to Obama’s “like it, keep it” assurances

First of all, being “blindsided” requires total ignorance of what’s coming.  Over to you, CNN:

In September 2010, Senate Republicans brought a resolution to the floor to block implementation of the grandfather rule, warning that it would result in canceled policies and violate President Barack Obama’s promise that people could keep their insurance if they liked it. “The District of Columbia is an island surrounded by reality. Only in the District of Columbia could you get away with telling the people if you like what you have you can keep it, and then pass regulations six months later that do just the opposite and figure that people are going to ignore it. But common sense is eventually going to prevail in this town and common sense is going to have to prevail on this piece of legislation as well,” Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said at the time. “The administration’s own regulations prove this is not the case. Under the grandfathering regulation, according to the White House’s own economic impact analysis, as many as 69 percent of businesses will lose their grandfathered status by 2013 and be forced to buy government-approved plans,” the Iowa Republican said. On a party line vote, Democrats killed the resolution, which could come back to haunt vulnerable Democrats up for re-election this year.

Warner was explicitly warned about what was going to happen — the White House’s own projections confirmed Republicans’ admonitions — yet he chose to vote down a resolution that would have restored his own promise.  That is the opposite of being “blindsided.”  Secondly, we’re officially through the looking glass when Democrats are (successfully!) citing expired and discredited “fact-checks” in order to justify prior claims that were ultimately exposed as lies of epic proportion.  Here’s the argument Politifact is evidently accepting from Team Warner: We may have told this lie, but you guys used to say that it wasn’t a lie, so we’re off the hook.  (But it was always a lie!  That’s the point!  Serenity now!)  Result: Ed Gillespie gets smacked with a “false” rating for linking Warner to Politifact’s ruling on the lie he repeated. Absolutely surreal.  You’ll also be glad to know that Politifact quoted a law professor who agrees with them:

Timothy Jost, a law professor at Washington and Lee University who specializes in health care law and supports the ACA, said Warner was true to his word. “The promise was literally kept,” he said. “At the time the law went into effect, people could keep their policies.” Jost said it’s “irrational” to hold Warner responsible for cancellations that occurred four years or so after he voted for Obamacare, noting that insurers routinely change plans based on market conditions. “I don’t think anyone was promising that if you bought a policy in the past, you could keep it forever,” he said.

Am I awake?  Obamacare’s verbiage specifically and intentionally caused millions of plans to become non-compliant and therefore illegal.  And that reality only started to impact consumers “years” after the Senate vote because….that’s when the relevant provisions of the law went into effect.  And by the way, “promising that if you bought a policy in the past, you could keep it forever” was exactly the message Democrats were deliberately telegraphing to voters.  The president: “If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.”

Mark Warner enjoys a sizable (but possibly narrowing) lead in this race, largely thanks to his uncanny ability to convince voters of his fictional ‘moderate’ credentials.  He may not need mind-bendingly dishonest Politifact propaganda to carry the day, but he’s getting it anyway.  Just in case.


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Liberals lying? Whoa!! Good thing I’m sitting down.

307wolverine on September 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

More important – Warner has been a rubber stamp to anything the democrats want. He has not served the state of Virginia very well.

TerryW on September 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

Polifact is part of the far-left Poynter publishing empire, which includes the equally far-left Tampa (formerly St. Petersburg) Times. Most “fact-checking” groups are far-left.

bw222 on September 30, 2014 at 1:37 PM

Liberals lie. News at 11.

BuckeyeSam on September 30, 2014 at 1:38 PM

Politi-hack.

Bitter Clinger on September 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Pathetic, but not surprising.

I bet it killed Politifact to even report Obama’s bald-faced lie for what it was.

Aizen on September 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Fascist-Democrats are allergic to the truth.

rbj on September 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM

Isn’t that sort of Liberal media cover-up better known as pulling a “Wolf Blitzer” or a pulling a “Brian Williams” ?

viking01 on September 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Before I make up my mind regarding Politifact, I’ll have to have VOX explain it to me!

Deano1952 on September 30, 2014 at 1:41 PM

Plotifact has had no credibility with me and likely never will. I don’t know why anyone bothers to pay any attention to them at all. By now, if you don’t know that you cannot trust any left leaning or left wing organization then you don’t belong in the voting booth.

Diluculo on September 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Which group poses more harm to the Country: Liberal Progressives or Militant Muslims? My question of the day.

DDay on September 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Mark Warner enjoys a sizable (but possibly narrowing) lead in this race, largely thanks to his uncanny ability to convince voters of his fictional ‘moderate’ credentials. He may not need mind-bendingly dishonest Politifact propaganda to carry the day, but he’s getting it anyway. Just in case.

I have yet to see one ad for Ed Gillespie and I’ve only seen one yard sign (zero for Warner). This is not a hot race.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

He has not served the state of Virginia very well.

TerryW on September 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM

He ever intended to serve the Commonwealth of Virginia. He only intended to serve the over-arching nanny state in DC.

GWB on September 30, 2014 at 1:51 PM

Warner shouldn’t worry….

Obama Debate Team captain Candy Crowley will just pull some “documents” out of her ample ass to shield him.

viking01 on September 30, 2014 at 1:54 PM

Wow! Politifact splitting hairs to make a Demorat look good? Who’d thought it? My favorite was when Romney said that the US Navy has fewer ships now than in 1917. Politicrap labeled it not true because, wait for it, modern Navy ships are much more capable than in 1917! Romney was not talking about capability but NUMBERS. No matter, they distorted it so much, as in this case above, that they were judging something completely different than what was said. The Tampa politicrap also labeled Palin’s “Death Panel” remark the lie of the year and never revoked it when sure enough death panels were indeed in the ACA.

inspectorudy on September 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

The old soviets at Pravda could only dream of what we now have in the USSA.

jukin3 on September 30, 2014 at 2:00 PM

Dog Bites Man = Donk Tells Lie

Like I always say, if it wasn’t for double standards, The Left wouldn’t have any standards at all.

HornHiAceDeuce on September 30, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Which group poses more harm to the Country: Liberal Progressives or Militant Muslims? My question of the day.

DDay on September 30, 2014 at 1:49 PM

Have you always repeated yourself like this???

Deano1952 on September 30, 2014 at 2:01 PM

The president had far greater power in shaping the law that bears his name than the senator.

Really Politifact? And just what did King Barack DO to “shape” legislation?

Politifact: We take the smell out of Democratic BULLSHIT!

GarandFan on September 30, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Maybe, just maybe Warner (Fascist-Democrat) should have read the bill. That is what legislators are supposed to do before voting on them. Either way the man should be retired with prejudice.

jukin3 on September 30, 2014 at 2:08 PM

Wow! Politifact splitting hairs to make a Demorat look good? Who’d thought it? My favorite was when Romney said that the US Navy has fewer ships now than in 1917. Politicrap labeled it not true because, wait for it, modern Navy ships are much more capable than in 1917! Romney was not talking about capability but NUMBERS. No matter, they distorted it so much, as in this case above, that they were judging something completely different than what was said. The Tampa politicrap also labeled Palin’s “Death Panel” remark the lie of the year and never revoked it when sure enough death panels were indeed in the ACA.

inspectorudy on September 30, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Would have LOVED to hear Politi-LIE explain how these fabulous ships can be in two places at once! I’m pretty sure we haven’t been able to advance THAT technology since 1917!

dominigan on September 30, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Politifact? More like ‘Politi JOKE’

Smart Politics has published the results of a study that shows Republicans getting much harsher treatment than Democrats:

“PolitiFact assigns “Pants on Fire” or “False” ratings to 39 percent of Republican statements compared to just 12 percent of Democrats since January 2010 …”

“But although PolitiFact provides a blueprint as to how statements are ‘rated’, it does not detail how statements are ‘selected’.”

“A Smart Politics content analysis of more than 500 PolitiFact stories from January 2010 through January 2011 finds that current and former Republican officeholders have been assigned substantially harsher grades by the news organization than their Democratic counterparts.”

“In total, 74 of the 98 statements by political figures judged “false” or “pants on fire” over the last 13 months were given to Republicans, or 76 percent, compared to just 22 statements for Democrats (22 percent).”

Human Events:

“POLITIFACT BIAS: DOES THE GOP TELL NINE TIMES MORE LIES THAN LEFT? REALLY?”

“Once widely regarded as a unique, rigorous and reasonably independent investigator of political claims, PolitiFact now declares conservatives wrong three times more often than liberals. More pointedly, the journalism organization concludes that conservatives have flat out lied nine times more often than liberals.”

“If you were a fact-checker yourself, you might reasonably conclude that PolitiFact is biased — that it favors liberals over conservatives. But PolitiFact continues to assert its impartiality.”

The Politi joke punchline:

“But liberals defend the organization. They gleefully point to PolitiFact’s lopsided numbers as evidence that a neutral arbiter has declared liberal politicians are more honest than their conservative counterparts.”

Cavalry on September 30, 2014 at 2:12 PM

It’s disgusting to know Warner is probably going to coast to reelection. But many must believe he’s a “moderate.”

cat_owner on September 30, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Remember who the party of eugenics is.

John the Libertarian on September 30, 2014 at 2:33 PM

It’s disgusting to know Warner is probably going to coast to reelection. But many must believe he’s a “moderate.”

cat_owner on September 30, 2014 at 2:32 PM

Virginians tend not to upset incumbents. Jim Webb managing to smear George Allen was an exception and he did that by dishonest means as reprehensible as Warner’s lies.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2014 at 2:35 PM

the heavily left-leaning political fact-checking oufit

when your job is checking facts that tends to happen

triple on September 30, 2014 at 2:40 PM

307wolverine on September 30, 2014 at 1:33 PM

Thank you for a wonderful laugh in the middle of a busy day!

kozanne on September 30, 2014 at 2:48 PM

While almost impossible to avoid, and most likely contributing to readership, I’m sure it pained Politifarce greatly to originally do the 2013 Lie of the Year piece.

Since then, they have to redeem themselves for it, even if only for their own conscience. If it takes many years of ridiculously blatant twisting and lying, so be it. It’s what they would be doing anyway.

Oxymoron on September 30, 2014 at 2:48 PM

Have you always repeated yourself like this???

Deano1952 on September 30, 2014 at 2:01 PM

Typically no. It appears I may have had a momentary lapse in my cognitive process.

DDay on September 30, 2014 at 3:50 PM

“No matter what” includes the passage of time.

BobMbx on September 30, 2014 at 3:52 PM

the heavily left-leaning political fact-checking oufit

when your job is checking facts that tends to happen

triple on September 30, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Especially when you get to decide the parameters of the question, arbitrate context and meaning, and twist the English language into something unrecognizable as a form of communication.

Athanasius on September 30, 2014 at 4:01 PM

Almost every say, Politifact is used by Central Florida’s 24 hour news channel. A great example of how biased local news is becoming.

KMav on September 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM

Ed Gillespie is running a television ad that hits Sen. Mark Warner for repeating the “keep your plan” fib:

Ed Gillespie vs. Mark Warner. Read that and weep America.

DFCtomm on September 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM

POLITIFACT… IS RUN BY LIBERAL DEMOCRATS!!!!
IT IS MEANINGLESS TO EVEN MENTION THOSE LIARS.

Go with HuffPo if you must.

FlaMurph on September 30, 2014 at 4:48 PM

Mark Warner enjoys a sizable (but possibly narrowing) lead in this race, largely thanks to his uncanny ability to convince voters of his fictional ‘moderate’ credentials. He may not need mind-bendingly dishonest Politifact propaganda to carry the day, but he’s getting it anyway. Just in case.

I think it is his Fictional Conservative Democrat credentials, when we know there is no such thing, but often you hear that Hillary has that. Then I think, No, She is as Flaming as Senator Warren of Ma.

The cross tabs on that survey are definitely curious. Quippie has put 28% GOP, 30% Dem and 34% Indie. 1010 likely voters. And funny choices on whether they were on cell phones landlines and their race and gender. I have no idea whether that will reflect election day.

The funniest response was that 15% of Republicans were choosing Warner. I am wondering if these are the elderly that think he is the republican in the race…hmmm.

Fleuries on September 30, 2014 at 7:57 PM

When Republicans leveled accurate criticisms against Obamacare, they were slapped down by America’s most partisan alleged arbiter of “facts:”

Months upon months of commenting on a very high profile website, one that asserts it’s created by “Republicans,” and is still a go-to site for many gullible readers, for months upon months upon months prior to Obama’s first (and second) election, the site and Left commenters used Politifact as “proof” that any criticism (or even inquiry into) about Obama was the stuff of “rightwingnutjobs”.

No inquiry about who Obama was, no statement that showed his irregularities — much more so, dangerous intents for the USA — was tolerated by the majority of commenters and it just went downhill from there. For months upon months upon months. Nothing anyone posed as even minor question about Obama’s background, his goals, his dubious declarations, associations, nothing was so much as tolerated.

Today, we’re told “the press” has “turned on Obama” with “grilling questions” while it’s clear as a bell that “the press” and their handlers have another goal and it’s not to “turn on Obama” per se but likely a method to try and salvage the Democrats for Hillary’s run (or whoever else a false icon they drum up by the next Presidential election). Beware the false flags seen in and by “media” and remember that they are nearly all, to a certainty, sneaky bahstahds.

Lourdes on September 30, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Almost every say, Politifact is used by Central Florida’s 24 hour news channel. A great example of how biased local news is becoming.

KMav on September 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM

There’s no such entity today called “local news,” it’s all handled-information by those above the local. How what is even mentioned locally and by whom, it’s all part of a packaging from others in controlling orgs and their political positions above the local.

Lourdes on September 30, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Remember who the party of eugenics is.

John the Libertarian on September 30, 2014 at 2:33 PM

Yes and it’s the Democrats.

Yet throughout social media and colloquially throughout the land, it’s (quite dishonestly) touted that “the Democrats are the party for the people, while the Republicans are for the corporations (some state that as “for the military”).”

Most college age adults, older teens, believe that voting Democrat is somehow “voting for the people” and that to oppose a Democrat is to be antisocial or out-of-the-elite-group.

Lourdes on September 30, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Also, you can’t say you’re blindsided by a bill that said “The Queen of HHS will decide stuff later”!!!

Or by one about which one of your colleagues said “We have to pass it to find what’s in it”!!!

It’s stupid to say you can pass an open-ended bill while retaining your “pledge” not to pass a bill that would do something you’re putting no limits on delegates doing down the road.

Isn’t diligence any part of a pledge anymore??!! We’re dealing with infants for representatives!

I’m not going to pass a bill that makes everybody a slave to corporate interests, but the bill that I’m voting yes on just so happens to empower the Koch Brothers as supreme dictators of Commerce. So because I didn’t pass a bill that makes everyone serve corporate interests, I can keep my pledge not to pass bills like that.

Axeman on September 30, 2014 at 10:28 PM

Politifact managed to live down to my expectations of them.

Far too many people let them play their pretend role of nonpartisan fact-checkers. Good to see someone calling them on their fraud.

It should be obvious, though. If you want the facts, the last place to look is to liberals.

There Goes the Neighborhood on September 30, 2014 at 10:44 PM

Again: it’s like the liberals have become so fatuous that they no longer realize that a pledge suggests there’s going to be follow-through. If you failed to ascertain whether this plan would do what you pledged against, and were warned by your “political opposition”, or roughly 50% of your colleagues, about this potential–and your own side chafed at the high expectations of actually reading the bill and knowing what was in it before passing it–I fail to see how you got close to being serious about your “pledge”.

What’s worse is that it seems the “adults” with the ability to manage government have equally fatuous ideas what words like “plan” and “manage” mean as well.

Axeman on October 1, 2014 at 1:34 AM