Sanitizing terror, part II: Backlash mounting over refusal to call OKC beheading what it is

posted at 12:01 pm on September 29, 2014 by Noah Rothman

It’s becoming a disturbing trend.

For months, Ali Muhammad Brown, a man described as a devout Muslim convert, engaged in what prosecutors allege was a “bloody crusade” aimed at avenging the deaths of Muslims killed by American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. From Seattle, Washington to West Orange, New Jersey, Brown left four bodies in his wake. But the national press refused to report on his case until weeks after he was indicted. Almost none outside local media outlets in Seattle noted that Brown had intentionally targeted gay men is his campaign of vengeance.

A Seattle-based Fox affiliate called Brown a “radical jihadist,” but few other press outlets followed their lead. Perhaps because Brown was not receiving coded transmissions from Pakistani handlers, some apparently determined that his actions should not be considered terrorism. One has to wonder whether the members of Seattle’s gay community who use the social media app Brown utilized to target his victims felt terrorized. Whether we call it terrorism or not, the effect of Brown’s spree was to instill fear and to force those who survived his attacks to rethink their routines.

This familiar pattern is happening again, now in Oklahoma City. On Friday, what was reportedly a disgruntled former employee of a food processing facility decided to take his frustrations out on his coworkers. He killed one, according to initial reports, and wounded another before being incapacitated by the gun-carrying company’s owner.

But as more details emerged, the more an ominous pattern began to emerge. Some have begun to determine that they are again being lied to in service to the ignoble mission of defining terrorism down.

The suspect, Alton Nolen, had beheaded his first victim – the jihadist calling card which has become a common element of Islamist attacks in the United Kingdom, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Algeria. He was reportedly a recent convert to Islam, and had been proselytizing in his place of work for some time. Nolen’s unsuccessful attempts to convert his coworkers were reportedly part of the reason for his dismissal.

During the attack, local outlets reported that Nolen was allegedly shouting Islamic phrases, similar to those which Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan shouted during his 2009 rampage. What’s more, Nolen’s Facebook page contained favorable images of Osama bin Laden and the prominent ISIS commander, Omar al-Shishani. His social media posts also included an image depicting an ISIS beheading.

“But the FBI, which is assisting in the investigation, has so far found no links to terrorism, the officials said,” The Washington Post reported. “There was also no indication that Nolen was copying the beheadings of journalists in Syria by the Islamic State, the officials said, adding that they are treating this as an incident of workplace violence.”

Nolen may not have been part of an ISIS cell lying in wait for the precise moment to strike, but he was clearly a sympathizer who was inspired by the actions of Islamic fundamentalist militants and duplicated them. While that may not be an act of war, it does have the effect of terrorizing the public. While it is debatable as to whether Nolen engaged in terrorism by definition, calling this an act of random workplace violence is simply misleading.

What’s more, the effort to reframe Nolen’s actions is prompting a deserved backlash:

“Workplace violence. Really?” an incredulous Joe Scarborough exclaimed on Monday. “Despite the fact the attacker’s Facebook page had pictures of Osama bin Laden, let’s see, the Taliban, gruesome beheadings by ISIS. Pictures celebrating the destruction of the Twin Towers, and his promise that America would go up in flames. And, also, his declaration that, quote, Islamic terrorists behead their victims because the precedent was bestowed by their prophet.”

“How stupid does the FBI really think we are?” he added. “And who exactly are they afraid of offending? ISIS?”

He noted that “political correctness,” the same kind which led the press to gloss over the actions of Ali Muhammad Brown, has led federal investigators to sanitize Alton Nolen’s acts of jihadist violence.

No one wants to spread undue panic, but the press and the federal government are sacrificing their credibility to the goal of maintaining calm. By refusing to call violence inspired by Islamic jihad what it is, these institutions are losing the public’s trust.


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Scarborough: “And who exactly are they afraid of offending? ISIS?”

The FBI is well aware that this is NOT Radical Islam.
This is Fundamental Islam.
It is what their “book” and “prophet” teaches.
Some do not choose to adhere as a full participant.
However, all Muslim’s believe in this Fundamental Islam.
All Muslim’s would be offended it the basic tenets of Islam were attacked by the U.S. Government.
Thus, this FBI response to the Fundamental practice of Islam.

Carnac on September 29, 2014 at 1:20 PM

Hey Cody, I agree,,,,,,,,every time a Christian is slaughtered by the muzzies and again in this case the so called president doesn’t even comment. He sure can comment on Ferguson and yet remains silent on muzzie atrocities and ignoring the Marine in the Mexican jail.

garydt on September 29, 2014 at 1:20 PM

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad

Remember John Allen? They said he was just a serial killer. Truth is, he was the proto-American Jihadi and took out 17 before being caught, using skills he learned in the Army. His divorce and other problems were the excuse used by the Bush Admin to deflect from the true motive, the ROP.

AH_C on September 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Nolen’s online persona revealed a dark side obsessed with Islamic extremism. Posting under the name “Jah’Keem Yisrael,” Nolen fantasized about the Statue of Liberty “going into flames” and posted a picture of a beheading.

Next to a photo of Pope Benedict XVI posted in May, Nolen wrote: “SHARIA LAW IS COMING!!!!”

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/family-apologizes-defends-oklahoma-beheading-suspect-alton-nolen-article-1.1956553

Says it all — I wonder if FBI is allowed to consider that last statement when they pronounce “workplace violence”?

Or do we just have to define “workplace” to be “local mosque and environs”?

fred5678 on September 29, 2014 at 1:17 PM

The Islamic brothers in Prison are teaching their converts that they are the real jews of Israel who’s land was taken from them by Catholic armies.

*blech*

workingclass artist on September 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Alan Colmes was on FNC earlier today and said the guy was just angry because he was losing his job. Nothing to see here.

Bertram Cabot Jr. on September 29, 2014 at 1:23 PM

I think there must be something more to make it terrorism.

NavyMom on September 29, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Sure. The fact that it’s not an isolated incident, and that there’s a common ideology that ties all the perpetrators together.

CurtZHP on September 29, 2014 at 1:23 PM

The DC sniper was a Mulsim terrorist and he didn’t belong to Al Qaeda either.

Happy Nomad on September 29, 2014 at 1:18 PM

I thought about the DC sniper. And I reasoned that he wasn’t in shock over just losing his job, or some other understandable circumstance like that. So that makes the DC sniper colder-blooded, than the criminal who didn’t know how to shut up about stoning to keep his job, who went on a rampage when fired, over it.

Axeman on September 29, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Axeman on September 29, 2014 at 1:02 PM

NavyDad and I had this discussion over the weekend – he said that according to my reasoning the Ft. Hood shootings would be workplace violence. I disagree – I think Maj. Hassan was attacking the government. What do you think about Ft. Hood, and how would you compare the 2 incidents?

NavyMom on September 29, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Can anyone give one example of where a recent convert to any religion, besides islam, where the convert tried to go on a killing spree? Ferris?

AH_C on September 29, 2014 at 1:24 PM

Hey Cody, I agree,,,,,,,,every time a Christian is slaughtered by the muzzies and again in this case the so called president doesn’t even comment. He sure can comment on Ferguson and yet remains silent on muzzie atrocities and ignoring the Marine in the Mexican jail.

garydt on September 29, 2014 at 1:20 PM

His silence speaks volumes.

There are no surprises with this guy.

Cody1991 on September 29, 2014 at 1:24 PM

It’s gotten to the point that I see Noah Rothman’s name on the story – and I just don’t even read it.

I didn’t read this one.

He’s too propaganistic and too “the sky is falling”.

Well I hope he’s enjoying himself!

HondaV65 on September 29, 2014 at 1:19 PM

So why bother commenting then? That was kinda azzwiperish of you…

OmahaConservative on September 29, 2014 at 1:26 PM

Someone upthread asked what will happen when some Islamic nut beheads a gay. We already know: crickets. Which should strike terror into the hearts of the gays: the left is just using them.

Let’s say you were bigoted–I mean, really bigoted– against the gays. Wouldn’t you want to be Islamic? You can kill gays without issue, and no one will care! Just because you claim you like Allah.

On the other hand, if you say marriage is between a man and a woman and you happen to be Mormon, good luck! You are a pariah and probably should be put to death on the spot by the police.

Vanceone on September 29, 2014 at 1:27 PM

I noticed in the last couple of weeks Obama would lament about most of the deaths caused by Isis are muzzies and yet he seems to careless about all the Christians and nonmuzzies being killed. Oh by the way I detest this man.

garydt on September 29, 2014 at 1:27 PM

I think there must be something more to make it terrorism.

NavyMom on September 29, 2014 at 1:19 PM

“Lone Wolf” Jihad is still Jihad, even if you wish for it to not be so.

You may think it helps you sleep better at night, but you won’t be sleeping at all when your “peaceful” Muslim neighbor decides that it’s your throat next to be under the Rusty Scimitar of Islam.

HikaruKitsune on September 29, 2014 at 1:29 PM

It’s just like with the IRS targeting TEA partiers. You won’t find any “smoking gun” memo to Lois Lerner telling her to do it. She’s part of the leftist cause. She didn’t need to be told.

CurtZHP on September 29, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Fin Fact: There is no paper trail from Hitler to the genocide of the Jews in WWII. His people just knew what to do without being told. This is a common trait with leftists.

jukin3 on September 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM

“How stupid does the FBI really think we are?” he added. “And who exactly are they afraid of offending? ISIS?”
Answers:
They know how breathtakingly stupid we are, that’s why they get away with it. And…they’re afraid of offending Imam Obama.

AppraisHer on September 29, 2014 at 1:38 PM

It was an act of Jihad. . . .

I refuse to call it an act of workplace violence committed by a disgruntled employee…Ft. Hood wasn’t workplace violence either…
workingclass artist on September 29, 2014 at 1:10 PM

I guess I don’t understand jihad, even with the quote. Could you give me the “Jihad for Dummies” explanation? :)

I don’t think the Ft. Hood shootings was workplace violence, either. Yes, he targeted his workplace, but his motive was more than taking revenge on a co-worker or on his employer.

NavyMom on September 29, 2014 at 1:38 PM

About a week ago, an ISIS spokesman issued a video calling for “lone wolfs” to attack civilians in the west. 4 days ago, we have a Muslim with an interest in jihad and ISIS beheading a civilian. Surely just a coincidence. No connection there at all. And I’m sure any future beheadings of U.S. civilians will be similarly unconnected.

The speech called on Muslims in the West to kill civilians in so-called lone wolf operations planned and executed by a single person.

“Do not ask for anyone’s advice and do not seek anyone’s verdict,” Adnani said. “Kill the infidel, whether he is civilian or military.”

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-islamic-state-taunts-20140922-story.html

mbs on September 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM


“The devil’s finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist.”

It is discouraging to see so many government authorities too timid to call out a Muslim radical for what he is.

Evil is as evil does: it doesn’t need a “paper trail,” and it doesn’t play by your politically correct rules.

landlines on September 29, 2014 at 1:42 PM

NavyDad and I had this discussion over the weekend – he said that according to my reasoning the Ft. Hood shootings would be workplace violence. I disagree – I think Maj. Hassan was attacking the government. What do you think about Ft. Hood, and how would you compare the 2 incidents?

NavyMom on September 29, 2014 at 1:24 PM

I tend to think things fall into a spectrum. Hassan was backed into a corner and snapped because he could not contribute to an infidel attack on other Muslims. But his action was planned and “idealistic”, at least along his lines of thinking (but he could have gotten a court martial for refusing a direct order rather than ending the lives of coworkers).

I think it’s important to know how much Hassan was “counselled” by what Imams and what mosques to take this action and not others. Not that Hassan’s case is an absolute act of terrorism, but it’s important to know who influenced his decision, so we can have a better idea, what elements in this country would counsel death to simple resistance (but with “dishonor”).

Where as Nolen’s case sounds like I would expect a criminal with 10 priors could act when being fired. And I see the people-are-props mindset of the criminal formed into the people-are-props mindset of a zealot, and then getting really, really mad at the props who suddenly have the gall to express power over you.

Axeman on September 29, 2014 at 1:43 PM

I guess I don’t understand jihad, even with the quote. Could you give me the “Jihad for Dummies” explanation? :)

I don’t think the Ft. Hood shootings was workplace violence, either. Yes, he targeted his workplace, but his motive was more than taking revenge on a co-worker or on his employer.

NavyMom on September 29, 2014 at 1:38 PM

I think the issue is motivation. Was he just mad that he got fired, or was he motivated by a desire to carry out jihad, and by the call to action ISIS put out. There are reports Nolen’s actions were premeditated. I assume a full investigation will reveal what those reports are based on, but I seriously doubt that Nolen was motivated solely by a desire to get revenge for being fired. Like I said before, the attack came about 3 days after ISIS spokesperson releases a video calling for individuals to attack civilians in the west. Nolen’s Facebook page shows his affinity with ISIS and jihad. He beheads someone 3 days after ISIS puts out the call. I’m having a hard time not seeing a connection.

mbs on September 29, 2014 at 1:51 PM

The only way you can call it “terrorism” is if you conclude that Islam is a cult or terrorist organization, and our institutional multi-cultural political correctness will not allow that conclusion. It’s going to take a nuke to change that, literally.

Socratease on September 29, 2014 at 1:55 PM

“This Is What We Do” Warns 2nd Oklahoman ISIS-Supporter Arrested For Threatening To Behead Co-Worker

” It appears the appeal of ISIS-supporting beheadings in Oklahoma is growing. In what can only be described as an uncomfortable coincidence for the state, a 2nd Oklahoma man was arrested Friday for threatening to behead a co-worker.

As The Oklahoman reports, Jacob Mugambi Muriithi, 30, who was recently fired from his job at a nursing home, threatened a female christian co-worker that he “represented ISIS and that ISIS kills Christians.” When she asked him why, he replied, “This is just what we do,” according to the affidavit…”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-29/what-we-do-warns-2nd-oklahoman-isis-supporter-arrested-threatening-behead-co-worker

workingclass artist on September 29, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Real journalists would go beyond the obvious Islamic connection and take a long overdue look at the Nation of Islam, the Black Nationalist group that does the vast majority of prison conversions of African Americans. If they did they would discover that the Nation of Islam sees most non-Muslims as infidels to be converted, but Caucasians as infidels to be killed. The NOI will not accept Caucasians as converts.

Kritikal on September 29, 2014 at 2:00 PM

“This Is What We Do” Warns 2nd Oklahoman ISIS-Supporter Arrested For Threatening To Behead Co-Worker

” It appears the appeal of ISIS-supporting beheadings in Oklahoma is growing. In what can only be described as an uncomfortable coincidence for the state, a 2nd Oklahoma man was arrested Friday for threatening to behead a co-worker.

As The Oklahoman reports, Jacob Mugambi Muriithi, 30, who was recently fired from his job at a nursing home, threatened a female christian co-worker that he “represented ISIS and that ISIS kills Christians.” When she asked him why, he replied, “This is just what we do,” according to the affidavit…”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-29/what-we-do-warns-2nd-oklahoman-isis-supporter-arrested-threatening-behead-co-worker

workingclass artist on September 29, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Exactly. Which is why the cult of Islam should be banned/outlawed in America. The crazy Islamist cultists believe their cult commands them to kill infidels in the name of their “God”.

Meople on September 29, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Meople on September 29, 2014 at 2:03 PM

Sorry, mean the quotes to be the other way around there.

Meople on September 29, 2014 at 2:04 PM

Fin Fact: There is no paper trail from Hitler to the genocide of the Jews in WWII. His people just knew what to do without being told. This is a common trait with leftists.

jukin3 on September 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Well then, Hitler is in the clear. Apparently there would have to be a paper trail including selfies on a facebook page before anything is reality.

Happy Nomad on September 29, 2014 at 2:05 PM

Home grown, lone wolf.
Didn’t many of you get upset when DHS warned of such attacks?
verbaluce on September 29, 2014 at 12:41 PM

The latest FBI threat assessment didn’t even contain warnings about Islamic extremists.

Resist We Much on September 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM

The latest FBI threat assessment didn’t even contain warnings about Islamic extremists.

Resist We Much on September 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM

The FBI has, no doubt, been instructed to not even use the term “Islamic Extremists” at all.

If you can’t even utter the name of what to be on the watch for, there is absolutely zero chance anyone is going to spot it, or recognize it if they do see it.

Meople on September 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM

My beef with the Muslim community is that when these situations occur we get:

1. Lectures that this has nothing to do with Islam.
2. Whining that the Muslim community is being unfairly treated.

Where are the Muslims standing up and decrying this kind of violence being perpetrated in the name of their god?

Happy Nomad on September 29, 2014 at 12:47 PM

Yes, and one of the first statements issued the same day as the killing by the local Islamic Council talked about how common workplace violence is in America. It really made me mad when I heard it. Basically saying it was just the same as the Alabama UPS workplace murders.

Workplace and school killings are tragic but are unfortunately becoming more common in America. Every loss is felt by family, friends and strangers. Scholars and everyday Muslims maintain that no religious or political goal is ever achieved by these acts. The Alabama UPS workplace murders last week are just as upsetting.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-beheading-updates-on-moore-stabbing-rampage/article/5345842

mbs on September 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM

Not to worry – Holder on the way out and Napolitano rumored to be in line for AG!

Big Sis, of course, commissioned the original BOLO/Homegrown Terrorist list with the Tea Party et al top of the list.

jangle12 on September 29, 2014 at 2:19 PM

“How stupid does the FBI really think we are?” he added. “And who exactly are they afraid of offending? ISIS?”

Well Joey, King Barack has been counting on your stupidity for the last 6 years.

What’s changed, Joey?

GarandFan on September 29, 2014 at 2:31 PM

Axeman and mbs, thank you for helping me to understand this a little better. I hadn’t heard that ISIS called for individuals to attack civilians. Between that and the tendency for unhinged people to carry out copycat attacks, I think we’re in for some scarey times.

NavyMom on September 29, 2014 at 2:33 PM

I notice that the picture they keep showing of the murderer is a former mug shot……..is that how he looks now or has he really adopted the facial hair and clothing of Islam? It might be all they have available to him but I would prefer a current view of this guy.

Cindy Munford on September 29, 2014 at 12:06 PM

https://www.facebook.com/alton.threadgill

cptacek on September 29, 2014 at 2:36 PM

The Islamic brothers in Prison are teaching their converts that they are the real jews of Israel who’s land was taken from them by Catholic armies.

*blech*

workingclass artist on September 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM

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December 22, 2013 ·
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cptacek on September 29, 2014 at 2:42 PM

it’s gotten to the point that I see Noah Rothman’s name on the story – and I just don’t even read it.

I didn’t read this one.

He’s too propaganistic and too “the sky is falling”.

Well I hope he’s enjoying himself!

HondaV65 on September 29, 2014 at 1:19

PM

I am completely tired of all of the Noah bashing. Why is this such a big deal? I enjoy his articles.

djl130 on September 29, 2014 at 2:43 PM

The FBI is well aware that this is NOT Radical Islam.
This is Fundamental Islam.
It is what their “book” and “prophet” teaches.
Some do not choose to adhere as a full participant.
However, all Muslim’s believe in this Fundamental Islam.
All Muslim’s would be offended it the basic tenets of Islam were attacked by the U.S. Government.
Thus, this FBI response to the Fundamental practice of Islam.

Carnac on September 29, 2014 at 1:20 PM

There are three kinds of muslims:

The mainstream ones that are terrorists and will kill you.
The moderate ones that want the terrorists to kill you.
The radical ones that do not want to kill you.

We need more radical islam.

ConstantineXI on September 29, 2014 at 2:45 PM

Until we can publicly identify mainstream Islamic thought as the enemy we can neither defend ourselves nor confront the threat. Once again pervasive Leftist thought is endangering this country, Western civilization and the Judeo–Christian ethic which supports it.

Hucklebuck on September 29, 2014 at 2:51 PM

All the NSA spying and we are not able to identify the Tsarnev brothers and this guy. Maybe it’s time to for the families to sue facebook.

monalisa on September 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM

“And who exactly are they afraid of offending? ISIS?”

At 17 trillion in debt? Our owners.

WryTrvllr on September 29, 2014 at 3:03 PM

No one wants to spread undue panic, but the press and the federal government are sacrificing their credibility to the goal of maintaining calm.

Yeah, that’s not why they’re doing it.

novaculus on September 29, 2014 at 3:13 PM

PC will kill all. I just hope the perpetrators will go first.

Schadenfreude on September 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM

Was this “Terrorism”?

Under the idea that he needed at least a tweet from ISIS or the Kardasian group to do this?

No, this probably had nothing to do with the unpleasantness in the ME. He was a new convert and ardent like new converts are. He offered his universal truths to his co workers and it was rejected. Worse he lost his job as a result of his deeply held new truth. There are not many other responses for a Muslim whose honor has been so thoroughly trashed by unbelievers other than what he did. If you are curious about the mental landscape of Muslims you just have to scan their holy writings.

[email protected] on September 29, 2014 at 3:19 PM

They can sanitize this new wave of home-grown Islamic terrorism all they want, but I can read, and I’m not stupid. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck, and I’m getting very wary of being around Muslims.

RebeccaH on September 29, 2014 at 3:20 PM

Scarborough: “And who exactly are they afraid of offending? ISIS?”

You, Sir, are part of the problem. Look who you work for.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 29, 2014 at 3:25 PM

Moore does not equal Oklahoma City, Noah. You’ve missed the boat, again…

It’s becoming a disturbing trend.

Gohawgs on September 29, 2014 at 3:29 PM

Yep, I’m surprised they didn’t use a nice pic of him as a tyke in a little league baseball uniform, waving a little American flag or something.

Or are pics of tykes waving American flags considered racist now?

Meople on September 29, 2014 at 1:15 PM

It’s considered supporting domestic terrorism.

Flora Duh on September 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Obama won’t admit who the enemy is.

Obama won’t admit what the enemy’s organizing principle is.

Little wonder he won’t let his tools admit the character of atrocities committed by lone wolf Islamist terrorists in service to their organizing principle. That doesn’t make the preposterous denials any the less insulting.

Exit question: How in Hell can Obama to fulfill his duty to protect the nation from lone wolf Islamist terrorists when he won’t even admit their acts of terror on our soil are lone wolf Islamists’ acts of terror on our soil?

novaculus on September 29, 2014 at 3:36 PM

Flora Duh on September 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Hi Flora. Good to “see” you. Real good.

novaculus on September 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

It’s considered supporting domestic terrorism.

Flora Duh on September 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM

With this Regime, it wouldn’t surprise me.

Meople on September 29, 2014 at 3:49 PM

Still waiting to hear “the rest of the story” here in Chicago after yesterday’s “not terror” attack on the FAA facility. Local media are saying this just doesn’t add up.

Fallon on September 29, 2014 at 4:00 PM

Moore does not equal Oklahoma City, Noah. You’ve missed the boat, again…

Eh, it’s a suburb, if you drive from Oklahoma City to Moore, there’s really no dividing line, it all runs together. And you can live in Oklahoma City but be in a Moore school district. Practically the same.

mbs on September 29, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Oh, and “Hi Flora!”

I see that your frequently posted description of Obama’s narcissism is getting a workout after last night’s Sid and Marty Kroft interview with Barry.

Fallon on September 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM

Hi Flora. Good to “see” you. Real good.

novaculus on September 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

Good to see you also Novaculus.

Flora Duh on September 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

Home grown, lone wolf.
Didn’t many of you get upset when DHS warned of such attacks?
verbaluce on September 29, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Aka Muslim convert.

Akzed on September 29, 2014 at 4:06 PM

mbs on September 29, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Yep. But, the point was his ongoing misstating of facts in the stories he posts…

Gohawgs on September 29, 2014 at 4:16 PM

Until we can publicly identify mainstream Islamic thought as the enemy we can neither defend ourselves nor confront the threat. Once again pervasive Leftist thought is endangering this country, Western civilization and the Judeo–Christian ethic which supports it.

Hucklebuck on September 29, 2014 at 2:51 PM

The physical Jihad is a hard enough nut to tackle without conceding to them the sword of the imagination. When the Left decided to deconstruct all aspects of American culture and to denigrate every aspect of it as shameful, racist and cringeworthy they unwittingly threw away weapons of the mind that in their own way were more powerful [than] all the bombers and fighter jets that ever flew. For nothing defended the West more effectively and at cheaper price than the American myth.

Richard Fernandez

Socratease on September 29, 2014 at 4:19 PM

Home grown, lone wolf.

Didn’t many of you get upset when DHS warned of such attacks?

verbaloon on September 29, 2014 at 12:41 PM

Hey, Tlaloc called. Needs you to change its diaper and give it a new bottle.

F-

Del Dolemonte on September 29, 2014 at 4:23 PM

How important is it that this fits under *just* one label? It certainly is “work place violence”- he has a history of violence (prior to religious conversion) and this occurred at the time of his firing. And- it’s also certainly copied from and inspired by the acts of overseas terrorists groups like ISIS that he was identifying with (post-conversion social media posts, etc).

Kudos to the guy that disabled him, and hope he experiences the full weight of OK justice.

adnan on September 29, 2014 at 4:45 PM

I am the great OZ…ignore the headless body behind the curtain OR I SHALL CALL THEE RACIST!

rgranger on September 29, 2014 at 5:02 PM

Now wait a minute, I’m pretty sure Hotair was right on board, yea I’m sure of it.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/09/26/oklahoma-woman-beheaded-in-workplace-attack-by-man-who-had-allegedly-tried-to-convert-co-workers-to-islam/

Convenient how you can just forget your article that was completely wrong, we told you about it last week. We saw this crap live on local tv here.

brainpimp on September 29, 2014 at 5:24 PM

The radical ones that do not want to kill you.

We need more radical islam.

ConstantineXI on September 29, 2014 at 2:45 PM

This, a thousand times so.

The head choppers are the reformers, and the moderates are their cheerleaders. This Islamic jihad business is their restoration.

Don’t confuse the Christian reformation and restoration movements with Islam.

jazzuscounty on September 29, 2014 at 6:06 PM

The Islamic brothers in Prison are teaching their converts that they are the real jews of Israel who’s land was taken from them by Catholic armies.

*blech*

workingclass artist on September 29, 2014 at 1:22 PM

Jah’Keem Yisrael
February 11 · Edited ·
To The black man and woman aka the true jews of the bible. ARAB SLAVERY THAT TURNED US INTO MUSLIMS AND THIS WAS BEFORE WE GOT SHIPPED TO AMERIKA!!!! NEVER FORGET YOUR HISTORY!!!!! ****InfoFromAMuslim****

Jah’Keem Yisrael
December 22, 2013 ·
Have Anybody Ever Wondered Why Hang The Black Man On The Cross And Burn It????? Your The True Jews Wake Up!!!!

Jah’Keem Yisrael
December 22, 2013 · YouTube ·
U Know I’ve Always Wondered Why The AB’s Take Pride In The Adolf Hitler Symbol When He Was Killing The Whites Who Were Thinking They Were The Jews. Here’s A Documentary From An Aryan Brother 9:04 He’s Stating The Black Man Is The True Jews, 20:45 He’s Saying That They Don’t Like Whites Claiming They Are The Jews. So With That Been Said The Aryan brother Hood Are Against The Pope!!!!In The Bible It Clearly Says Them Ones In Israel Who Claim They Are The Jews Are Syanogues Of Satan lol. I Guess So!!!!!!

Jah’Keem Yisrael
November 17, 2013 · YouTube ·
Not Racist…But To The Black Man And Woman aka The Tribe Of Judah…2:29 elderly white woman telling the fake jews in Israel get the hell out of it…3:30 white man telling u that u are the true jews…5:08 elderly woman saying dnt bow to the white man. Islam is the true religion. Wake Up!!!!

cptacek on September 29, 2014 at 2:42 PM

Palestinians (among other muslim groups) teach that the Jews occupying Israel are not biblically jewish because many of them are ashkenazic as opposed to sephardic.

same load of crapola…different day…

Palestinians and likely other fools are also taught the Temple Mount complex in Jerusalem was a Roman Barracks.

workingclass artist on September 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM

Alan Colmes was on FNC earlier today and said the guy was just angry because he was losing his job. Nothing to see here.

Bertram Cabot Jr. on September 29, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Whoa… stand down, wasnt aware Alan had weighed in yet. Guess Ill just put my head back in the sand and keep paying my taxes.

Koa on September 29, 2014 at 8:52 PM

Chudi where are you? Chu….rp?

CW on September 29, 2014 at 9:14 PM

And now DOJ wants to stop most ways to identify humans? b/c it’s “profiling?” We’re headed in a very bad direction and all will pay.

MN J on September 29, 2014 at 9:21 PM

but the press and the federal government are sacrificing their credibility

… WHAT credibility?

… To the very limited extent that YOU have credibility (not much, IMO) you sacrifice it by such statements.

(I usually don’t even read let alone comment on NR threads… but this is a moment of weakness… I gave in based on the thread title.)

Wing Chun Man on September 30, 2014 at 12:18 AM

Can we include Barrack Obama’s claim that ISIS isn’t Islamic?

corkie on September 29, 2014 at 12:04 PM

That was, indeed, either a cowardly statement by Obama or an intentional lie by him.

Obama has used numerous emergency conditions to lecture the world on “what Islam is” which calls to question what he’s up to. I’ve estimated what I think he is up to several times but it’s still estimation. But Obama is clearly intent and consistently using his public office with a world’s audience to promote Islam, to “teach about Islam”.

Lourdes on September 30, 2014 at 1:24 AM

Alan Colmes was on FNC earlier today and said the guy was just angry because he was losing his job. Nothing to see here.

Bertram Cabot Jr. on September 29, 2014 at 1:23 PM

Colmes, like the Left on MSNBC who laughed at this news (a woman beheaded by another Muslim), saying “Muslims are soooooo funnnnnyyy, hahahahah, Colmes and those Liberals like all the rest who are trying to make this wretched event out to be “a non event by a good boy,” are either deceptive or denying reality, just like his parents are.

There’s NO “other side” to this story: the guy with bad ethics went to jail for his criminal activities, he converted to Islam, he beheaded a woman, innocent coworker (not that even if she was “guilty” of anything, merited this crazed guy’s actions — intentionally beheading someone is never understandable).

Lourdes on September 30, 2014 at 2:30 AM

And now DOJ wants to stop most ways to identify humans? b/c it’s “profiling?” We’re headed in a very bad direction and all will pay.

MN J on September 29, 2014 at 9:21 PM

I agree, we’re headed in a very bad direction, only I’d add: “a very, very bad direction.”

You know WHY the currently Leftwing appeasing DOJ is doing that? Because they are very eager to bury the ongoing horror tale in the USA that most violent crimes are committed by Black males, then Hispanic males next.

Identifying a suspect by racial type is significantly helpful to capturing a suspect. Next Left will want “gender” to be removed from identifying suspects because that’s the Left’s way of type-casting. No longer, “Black male (or anything else)” but, “uhhh, a person wearing clothes…”

Lourdes on September 30, 2014 at 2:34 AM

The radical ones that do not want to kill you.

We need more radical islam.

ConstantineXI on September 29, 2014 at 2:45 PM

This, a thousand times so.

The head choppers are the reformers, and the moderates are their cheerleaders. This Islamic jihad business is their restoration.

Don’t confuse the Christian reformation and restoration movements with Islam.

jazzuscounty on September 29, 2014 at 6:06 PM

THE GOAL of Islam is jihad.

They pretend at peaceful lives among other populations only UNTIL there are larger numbers of Muslims present — and apparently if the current conditions in USA can be used along those lines, until they believe they’ve gained some upper-hand politically as to leadership.

THEN they reveal their intents of jihad. That’s what’s taking place today, globally. They’ve managed to amass population numbers in enough areas whereby they’ve now begun revealing their actual goals, and those goals are not to coexist with anyone else.

Lourdes on September 30, 2014 at 2:39 AM

…every time a Christian is slaughtered by the muzzies and again in this case the so called president doesn’t even comment. He sure can comment on Ferguson and yet remains silent on muzzie atrocities and ignoring the Marine in the Mexican jail.

garydt on September 29, 2014 at 1:20 PM

His silence speaks volumes.

There are no surprises with this guy.

Cody1991 on September 29, 2014 at 1:24 PM

And let’s not forget the big to-do Obama and wife made out of Hassan’s slaughter at Fort Hood. Obama not only gave a speech about how “it’s not Islam responsible for ‘workplace violence’…” but he showed up at A CEREMONY at Fort Hood to give that speech. Protected Islam at all costs, didn’t even blame the obvious for how our US military lost their lives.

Lourdes on September 30, 2014 at 2:43 AM

So much here to comment on.

http://truthandcommonsense.com/2014/09/24/of-dunces-sadists-and-armed-civilians-how-all-of-this-may-play-out-here-at-home/

The feds covering up the jihad is two-fold. One, ever since 9-11 the feds are worried that putting the blame on Islam puts Muslims in America at risk. They are wrong. But that is a CAIR driven fear. No one wants the repeat of WW2 and the Japanese. Besides, Islam is not a defining characteristic like being Asian. Anyone can be Muslim, most aren’t jihadist. Most are cowards, and willing to go in the direction of Sharia law, but most are not jihadists.

Two, and you can trust me on this, most bureaucrats refuse to acknowledge anything they can’t handle. Why? Because once they tell the public there is a problem, they have to tell the public they can solve it, or the public vote in someone who claims they can! Very few public figures have enough faith to say to the public “We are in trouble, we are WORKING to get out, be patient.” Usually, they say “nothing to see here” and hope the public is too stupid, lazy and watching the housewives of something or another. Bread and circuses.

Back in my day, our Chief of Police pushed the truth that we were starting to suffer gang problems, as we were. He also told anyone who would listen he would do his best to run them out of town, and we did. He had faith. But his chain of command refused to acknowledge it. When he left and the new Chief took over, suddenly we had no problem. They refused to even talk about it, until the gang committed multiple heinous murders. You can’t hide the bodies!

Here, radical jihadis will start stacking bodies. Only armed citizens will stop the attacks and limit the damage before the police do, like in Moore, Ok.

Gear up. Be ready, because after you stop the threat, and the last bullet casing cools at your feet, the media (PC controlled to a cancerous level) and the police will still be denying what you just witnessed.

That is life.

archer52 on September 30, 2014 at 4:17 AM

Anyone can be Muslim, most aren’t jihadist. Most are cowards, and willing to go in the direction of Sharia law, but most are not jihadists.

archer52 on September 30, 2014 at 4:17 AM

All it takes is five times a day lectures reading the Koran as to jihad and any of those Muslims who aren’t jihadists are jihadists.

There is a short line between “willing to go in the direction of Sharia Law, but…not (jihad)” and jihad. It’s the destination point of Islam theology, jihad is, it’s Muslim’s “stairway to heaven” as they believe.

While anyone of any race can be Muslim, yes, but the mosque-building in the USA has to stop and we must cease allowing Muslims to immigrate to the USA. It’s a matter of life and death for our population and looks to be the same in many other nations due to the very same increasing threat by Muslims upon others.

Lourdes on September 30, 2014 at 7:13 AM

Flora Duh on September 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM

Missing you. ; )

Bmore on September 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM