Polling avalanche: GOP leads in eight races for Democrat-held Senate seats

posted at 10:01 am on September 8, 2014 by Guy Benson

Jim Geragthy, acclaimed author and National Review’s chief campaign analyst, has been grousing about the lack of quality polling in key Senate races this year. His frustration is well-founded.  So yesterday must have felt like Christmas in September for Jim and political junkies everywhere, as two pollsters released a deluge of surveys covering the most contested races in the country.  In light of the results, I’d expect that national Republicans are kicking off the week with an extra spring in their step, as well.  We were leaked an advance copy of last week’s much-anticipated Politico/GWU Battleground poll, which was packed with more than a few hopeful morsels for conservatives. This weekend’s polling volley applies those national trends to roughly a dozen contests across the 2014 Senate landscape — the contours of which I outlined here.  An overview of the fresh data:

Alaska: Accurately polling this state is infamously difficult, but the new New York Times/CBS News/YouGov poll shows a stark reversal in the race, with Republican Dan Sullivan now leading incumbent Sen. Mark Begich by six points — 45 to 39, including leaners.  The Begich campaign is still reeling from a furious backlash over their desperate TV ad that falsely tied Sullivan to a terrible case involving child rape and a double murder.  The family of the victims demanded that Begich pull the ad, with Sullivan slamming the spot for being factually inaccurate.  Begich has voted with President Obama 97 percent of the time, according to a Congressional Quarterly analysis.

Arkansas: Three new polls out of this race, one of which Jazz covered yesterday.  NBC/Marist finds Republican challenger Tom Cotton leading Sen. Mark Pryor by five points, 45-40, among likely voters.  NYT/CBS/YouGov shows Cotton up four (with leaners), 43-39.  CNN puts Cotton ahead by two, though he trails Pryor among the broader electorate of registered voters in the survey.  Pryor raised eyebrows by airing an ad touting Obamacare, though the spot failed to mention the law by name.  The president and his signature law are deeply unpopular in the state. Pryor supports Obama 90 percent of the time.

Colorado: According to a pair of new data sets, Republicans still have some work to do in this race, with challenger Cory Gardner trailing Sen. Mark Udall by three and six points in the NBC/Marist and NYT/CBS/YouGov polls, respectively.  Other polling has shown the race to be a dead heat.  Gardner is running a smart, energetic and disciplined campaign, performing well in Saturday’s first head-to-head debate.  Here’s the post-debate lede from a local paper:

U.S. Rep. Cory Gardner talked rapidly and aggressively Saturday night in the Republican’s effort to unseat U.S. Sen. Mark Udall, and at times the incumbent’s slower, deliberate answers came across like he was a deer caught in the headlights.

This is a pretty solid quip from Gardner when Udall sarcastically played the victim card, wondering aloud which national problems he hasn’t caused in his opponent’s eyes:

Gardner is struggling a bit among independents, a rarity among battleground state Republicans this year.  Peeling off support from that group will be a focus for his campaign over the coming weeks.

Iowa: The battle over the Hawkeye State’s open seat remains a pure toss-up.  The new NYT/CBS/YouGov poll shows Democrat Bruce Braley in front of Republican Joni Ernst by just two points (44/42) including leaners.  Excluding leaners, Ernst has a small lead.  Republicans have been hammering Braley over his on-camera remarks disparaging farmers and demeaning popular Sen. Chuck Grassley at an out-of-state fundraiser with fellow trial lawyers.  They’ve also highlighted Braley’s poor attendance at House Veterans Affairs Committee meetings; Ernst is a Lt. Colonel in the Iowa Army National Guard.  Iowa has never elected a female senator, governor, or member of Congress.  Interesting data point:

Louisiana: Sen. Mary Landrieu’s on the ropes.  The NYT/CBS/YouGov poll shows the incumbent behind Republican Bill Cassidy by two points, but that doesn’t tell the whole story.  The survey also measured significant support for Cassidy’s more conservative (and fairly distant) Republican challenger, who will be on November’s “jungle primary” ballot.  When you combine the two GOPers’ support, this is what you get:

Those figures swell to 48-36 including leaners.  Worse for Team Mary, the poll was taken in late August and the first few days of September, so these results don’t fully reflect the embarrassing residency controversy that has snowballed since the tail end end of last month.  Landrieu votes with President Obama 97 percent of the time.

Michigan: Republican Terri Lynn Land leads Democrat Gary Peters by the narrowest of margins (43/42) in the fight over Sen. Carl Levin’s soon-to-be-vacant seat.  Land enjoys a double-digit advantage with independents.

New Hampshire: Scott Brown, who is heavily favored to win tomorrow’s GOP primary, has some catching up to do in the general election race.  According to NYT/CBS/YouGov’s stats, he’s down six to Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, though two other recent polls have the margin within three points.  New Hampshire has been hit especially hard by Obamacare, approval ratings for which are deep underwater in the Granite State.  The same applies to the president, with whom Shaheen votes 99 percent of the time.

North Carolina: It’s Republican Thom Tillis by a hair (43/41) over Sen. Kay Hagan in the NYT/CBS/YouGov poll, right in line with most polling of the race.  Hagan turned in a poor debate performance last week, during which she unsuccessfully tried to plead ignorance when confronted with Obamacare’s failures.  The GOP is bludgeoning her 96 percent pro-Obama voting record, a critique she’s richly earned.  In 2008, she pounded away relentlessly at her Republican opponent’s 92 percent pro-Bush voting record.

Republicans remain poised to net three additional open seats with relative ease, holding commanding leads in Montana (16 points), South Dakota (14 points) and West Virginia (24 points) — where Shelley Moore Capito is on the brink of becoming the state’s first Republican Senator since the 1950’s, and its first-ever female Senator of any party.  The two most closely-watched Senate races for GOP-controlled seats appear to be inching toward the “safe” category for Republicans.  David Perdue leads Michelle Nunn by six points in Georgia, while Mitch McConnell is ahead of Alison Lundergan Grimes (47/42) in Kentucky.  NBC’s new poll shows McConnell opening up an eight-point lead in the race; CNN’s recent poll gave the Senate Republican Leader a four-point edge. Big picture, Republicans appear favored — for now — to retain all of the seats they currently control; they’re also leading, at least nominally, in eight contests for Democrat-held seats.  Plus, they’re very competitive in at least three others.  The GOP needs to net six seats to regain control of Congress’ upper chamber in November.  If the current polling snapshot were to hold up (a big if, of course), Harry Reid would be facing a demotion.


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Perhaps Midas, you & DFCtomm could explain your logic or point out my logical flaws… you know hope replacing McConnell with someone who will vote FOR Amnesty teaches the Republicans a “lesson” about OPPOSING Amnesty? Or how voting for someone who is most CERTAINLY not going to vote the ways you want on a host of issues is the “smart play” here?
My Brain Hurts because as I look at the results of your voting or support you get a candidate you H8te, who’s only redeeming quality is that she’s NOT McConnell…

So tell me how am I being illogical or show me how this isn’t you and the Whino’s (Thanks Maggiepoo) simply driving angry or voting with your adrenal glands?

I’ll wait… Grimes will NOT vote at all like you want, but she’s PREFERABLE to the guy who WILL vote, most of the time the way you want? Have I got that right? And you wonder why my BRAIN HURTS?

JFKY on September 8, 2014 at 9:07 PM

Funny Midas you’re busy supporting a F*ckwit who will vote for amnesty & won’t repeal ObamaCare but YOUR vote is rational? MY BRAIN HURTS?

Just own it, you H8te more than you want to win or achieve anything… keep listening to those adrenal glands, they won’t steer you wrong, I’m sure.

JFKY on September 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

My Hurting Brain is retiring for the night….

JFKY on September 8, 2014 at 9:21 PM

Funny Midas you’re busy supporting a F*ckwit who will vote for amnesty & won’t repeal ObamaCare but YOUR vote is rational? MY BRAIN HURTS?

JFKY on September 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

What’s worse – supporting a f*ckwit who will do give you the shit sandwich they say they’re going to give you, or a f*ckwit on your own team who will lie to you until they get your vote, then force that shit sandwich on you anyway, and chuckle, knowing they’ve just done it to you again, as before, and knowing they can do it again next time – and you’re so f*cking stupid, not only will you willingly do it, you’ll grief anyone else that’s tired of being used.

Keep f*cking that chicken, champ. I know you will.

Midas on September 8, 2014 at 9:39 PM

Senate races may be going well, but the Gov races are not. Both Walker in WI and Brownback in KS are toast.

mypalfish on September 8, 2014 at 9:45 PM

I think the Senate changing hands is a foregone conclusion, however with McConnell in charge, not much will change except that the moaning and groaning from the press and WH will become stronger. And if by some miracle Congress gets anything passed that is halfway decent, Obama will claim credit for it til kingdom come ala Bill Clinton and welfare reform.

txmomof6 on September 8, 2014 at 9:45 PM

“IT is the mark of our whole modern history that the masses are kept quiet with a fight. They are kept quiet by the fight because it is a sham-fight; thus most of us know by this time that the Party System has been popular only in the sense that a football match is popular.”

~G.K. Chesterton: “A Short History of England,” Chap. XVI.

ebrown2 on September 8, 2014 at 9:55 PM

JFKY on September 8, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Sorry.
my posts were convoluted(is that the right word?). I’m 1/2 supporting DFCOMM. You are fighting on several fronts so I should have made it easier to understand.

I say , like you, like always (but I’m at my limit) it’s the lesser of 2 evils BUT that’s just for me. I can see the other side’s point because the Rs did try and pass amnesty in 2006 and again in 2010 AND if Mconnel turns again after november you need to stick with your Rubio comments and get ANGRY. Mconnel will be the senate leader unlike Rubio so the damage he does will be great. I don’t think Joanna agrees with you about Rubio however (though that’s for him/her to say).

BoxHead1 on September 8, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Also Miss. WAS bad as has been pointed out. Mconnel had a hand in it. DFCOMM and Midas have a right to their scepticism.

BoxHead1 on September 8, 2014 at 10:00 PM

Though I’d never vote for a dem.

BoxHead1 on September 8, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Now My brain hurts too -lol

BoxHead1 on September 8, 2014 at 10:20 PM

20102012 OK i’m done.

BoxHead1 on September 8, 2014 at 10:32 PM

JFKY on September 8, 2014 at 8:59 PM

Or… We can continue to vote for the Whigs after they break promise after promise just so we can claim our side wins and cheer the collapse of the country. Because after all, principles are irrelevant. We have to make the media like us so they won’t call us racists, and pat us on the back as we support Obama’s agenda. Go Team!

Brock Robamney on September 8, 2014 at 10:44 PM

That’s the problems with TruCons, they seem to value conformity & purity over success… better to have someone in office you will disagree with 85% of the time

Hmmm…. Can you say Ken Cuccinelli? Dick Mourdoch? Justin Amash?

Brock Robamney on September 8, 2014 at 10:51 PM

JFKY on September 8, 2014 at 9:02 PM

Did W close the borders? How many times has more money been allocated for border security? How many times has it been cut out in the name of cutting costs. It flat out is not a priority for either side. Although I think the Dems would like to give them amnesty for the votes and the Rep would like to keep them in the “shadows” so that they donors can continue to pay slave wages.

Cindy Munford on September 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM

I love you people who think Tru Con is some kind of a insult. It has as much impact on my feelings as being called a racist. If you don’t expect anything from these people I guess they can never disappoint you.

Cindy Munford on September 8, 2014 at 11:18 PM

Just own it, you H8te more than you want to win or achieve anything… keep listening to those adrenal glands, they won’t steer you wrong, I’m sure.

JFKY on September 8, 2014 at 9:09 PM

Bravo!

. Because after all, principles are irrelevant.
Brock Robamney on September 8, 2014 at 10:44 PM

LOL, Your principles are lying for the DNC.
You are a moby troll here to get the rubes to vote for democrats or stay home.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 5:58 AM

LOL, Your principles are lying for the DNC.
You are a moby troll here to get the rubes to vote for democrats or stay home.
V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 5:58 AM

Right…. Because voting Whig has really worked out so well for us. Like Boehner surrendering the power of the purse on day 1. Like the GOP surrendering on Amnesty and Obamacare. Who wouldn’t want to follow the TrueCons path to the far left????

By the way, where’s your sock puppet Dire Straits? Did u put him back in the drawer?

Brock Robamney on September 9, 2014 at 6:39 AM

Harry Reid should be facing jail time not a demotion. Harry and his family have turned his Nevada Senate seat into a money making machine.

paulus1 on September 9, 2014 at 9:30 AM

If if gets to the day before the election and these seats turn out to be in the GOP favor, then vote against Mc Connell and for Grimes in Kentucky. Hopefully a small but significant Conservative backlash in Kentucky, could send the GOP a message.It’s time the GOP stopped listening to the US Chamber of Commerce and started listening to the actual voters. The Chamber may have money, but they cannot vote.

searcher on September 9, 2014 at 9:32 AM

Just hope the Ds don’t cheat, especially in the close races. They’ve been at this for a long time – we need to be alert.

MN J on September 9, 2014 at 9:52 AM

What will the GOP do with this gift?

Roll back Obamacare, the IRS, DHS and all the other agencies of abuse, I hope and pray. But realistically? Eh.

PattyJ on September 9, 2014 at 9:54 AM

By the way, where’s your sock puppet Dire Straits? Did u put him back in the drawer?

Brock Robamney on September 9, 2014 at 6:39 AM

He can only manage ‘1’ nick at a time – ‘2’ is a number that is problematic for him.

Midas on September 9, 2014 at 10:01 AM

We need to keep reminding America who the democrats are:

DEMOCRATS MOVE TO PARTIALLY REPEAL FIRST AMENDMENT

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/09/democrats-move-to-partially-repeal-first-amendment.php

Tonight the Senate voted 78-18 to advance the Democrats’ proposal to amend the Constitution to give Congress the power to prohibit or restrict participation in political campaigns. A number of Republicans voted to advance the bill, but will oppose it in debate and will vote against it. Charles Grassley said, “We should have debate on this important amendment. The majority should be made to answer why they want to silence critics.”

The idea that a major American political party would propose such a sweeping ban on free speech is shocking; or would be, in any era but this one. In the Age of Obama, Reid and Pelosi, it seems that there is no depth to which the Democratic Party will not sink.

redguy on September 9, 2014 at 10:32 AM

redguy on September 9, 2014 at 10:32 AM

And this is why Republicans lose. They support the Democrats agenda

Brock Robamney on September 9, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Brock Robamney shows why TruCons aren’t too smart…. this was a good move, & if you had read about this @ Politico or here you’d see why.

Reid WANTED the proposed Amendment to fail:
1) Then claiming Republicans were in the pockets of the Kochs;
2) Allowing him to move onto other topics; &
3) Avoiding the defeat that awaits his proposed Amendment; INSTEAD

Now, the Democrats have to debate the [email protected] thing & come out against Free Speech, waste their time sounding like Fascists, & watch it crash & burn….

The Phrase is, “When you’re Enemy is Committing Suicide, Get Out of the Way” but to TruCons, just like Liberals under Bush, if “they” are “for it” “we MUST be “against it,” right…. no, not always.

But since, in your world, Republicans are l0ser sell-outs interested in betraying “Mehrica & TruCons, then ANYTHING they do is wrong….& gives you ammunition to WHINE about your side, well not YOUR side, but your “supposed” side….because if we aren’t whining about Boehner or McConnell what is the point of life?

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 3:13 PM

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Wow. Smart strategy from the TrueCon Whigs. So voting with the Democrats on funding Obamacare, Amnesty, and raising the deficit is ‘Strategy’. I can see why you guys are so successful, except in 2006, 2008, and 2012. Standing on no principles sure is inspiring. I am also confident that every single democrat would vote for Thad Cochran with your platform. LOL

Brock Robamney on September 9, 2014 at 3:53 PM

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 3:13 PM

Another interesting tidbit. You are relying on POLITICO for Republican strategy? Yeah sure they want to see Republcans win!! Wow you Whigs are laughably gullible. What next? Have Daily Kos run the RNC’s doomed candidate in 2016’s campaign??? Oh brother. Facts and the Whigs are like oil and water

Brock Robamney on September 9, 2014 at 3:58 PM

Brock did you READ the article or Ed/Allah’s discussion? Yeah do that… THEIR take was to excoriate TEH Republicans for having moved it along, because they see it’s a bad idea too…

Say Brock what TEA Party Candidate got the nomination in 2012? I’ll wait…

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Brock did you READ the article or Ed/Allah’s discussion? Yeah do that… THEIR take was to excoriate TEH Republicans for having moved it along, because they see it’s a bad idea too…

Say Brock what TEA Party Candidate got the nomination in 2012? I’ll wait…

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 4:23 PM

Hey, I know what will work. Hold your breath till we do what you want.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Hey, I know what will work. Hold your breath till we do what you want.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 6:29 PM

Do it for 10 minutes and your brain will quit hurting. Guaranteed.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 6:30 PM

It’s a trick you have practiced OBVIOUSLY… as you prepare to vote for Grimes, the Obama/Amnesty supporter, because you oppose Obama & Amnesty…

OH MY BRAIN STILL HURTS….

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Brock Robamney on September 9, 2014 at 6:39 AM

Right…. Because voting Whig has really worked out so well for us.

What’s a matter, did they stop your cap and trade? Your amnesty and “assault weapons” (read, anything scary looking) ban? Soros must have been furious with you.

Like Boehner surrendering the power of the purse on day 1.

Awesome how your talking points don’t need to correspond with reality in the slightest. You just regurgitate what you are told like a good little moby.

Like the GOP surrendering on Amnesty and Obamacare

There were no GOP votes for Obamacare and we don’t have amnesty. The only reason Obamacare passed is that your bosses did such a great job of suppressing conservative votes.

Who wouldn’t want to follow the TrueCons path to the far left????

There is nothing “true” about you. No one is that stupid.

By the way, where’s your sock puppet Dire Straits?

I don’t have a sockpuppet, wheres yours? Midas, Oh, here he is…

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 6:46 PM

It’s a trick you have practiced OBVIOUSLY… as you prepare to vote for Grimes, the Obama/Amnesty supporter, because you oppose Obama & Amnesty…

OH MY BRAIN STILL HURTS….

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM

Lay on the floor kick your feet, flail your arms and scream. That’ll do it.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 6:47 PM

He can only manage ’1′ nick at a time – ’2′ is a number that is problematic for him.

Midas on September 9, 2014 at 10:01 AM

Gee, I thought you were going to post the link so people would see what you are talking about. Because you are actually prod of beclowning yourself.
Do you ever work by the way? Don’t conservatives have jobs? Guess you are disqualified from that category again.
So if there is a wave election, you do realize that this whole “lose elections to gain power” BS that you have been shoveling will be dead, right? Absolutely dead. You get that, right? You can wrap both of your IQ points around that, right?
It will mean that the only thing you have done is to help the socialists make a mess that people who are actually employed at something other than trolling will have to clean up.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Lay on the floor kick your feet, flail your arms and scream. That’ll do it.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 6:47 PM

Great that you have given up any pretense of not trolling. Here, back at you. Flail away.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM

*proud of beclowning yourself.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 7:04 PM

Yeah I’m throwing a “temper tantrum” that coming from the “guy” who’s voting for Grimes, because DFCtomm opposes Amnesty, Increased Federal Spending & wants Congress to “stand up to Obama”…& by voting for Grimes s/he achieves NONE OF THAT, but s/he gets to throw that Poopie-Head McConnell out of office…

Brain Still Hurts…

You’re not coming to well in this debate, it seems to me…I keep pointing out the logical flaws in your position, you keep talking about childish things, that apply to YOU, not to me…

Just own it you h8te McConnell, you’d rather let your h8te guide you than you brain…. you can tart it up with “justifications” but it sure seems that you actually lack any sound basis for them…

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 7:14 PM

Great that you have given up any pretense of not trolling. Here, back at you. Flail away.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 6:59 PM

Yeah, it looks like the GOP is going to do just fine, so there is no harm at all in taking McConnell’s head. It will be a nice warning for all those new Senators.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 7:28 PM

You’re not coming to well in this debate, it seems to me…I keep pointing out the logical flaws in your position, you keep talking about childish things, that apply to YOU, not to me…

Just own it you h8te McConnell, you’d rather let your h8te guide you than you brain…. you can tart it up with “justifications” but it sure seems that you actually lack any sound basis for them…

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 7:14 PM

You certainly keep saying the same damn thing over and over again, and that’s why I’ve quit interacting with you other than calling you childish. However, there is a book you should read. It’s an old one so it’s free. Read “The Prince”.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 7:32 PM

So if there is a wave election, you do realize that this whole “lose elections to gain power” BS that you have been shoveling will be dead, right? Absolutely dead. You get that, right? You can wrap both of your IQ points around that, right?
It will mean that the only thing you have done is to help the socialists make a mess that people who are actually employed at something other than trolling will have to clean up.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Man you two are dumber than fence posts. The GOP cannot be trusted, and a GOP wave won’t accomplish anything, except an Amnesty. The only path through this is to keep the GOP strong enough to stop any legislation, and yet too frightened to pass anything that Boner, and the turtle want.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 7:46 PM

Yeah, it looks like the GOP is going to do just fine, so there is no harm at all in taking McConnell’s head. It will be a nice warning for all those new Senators.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 7:28 PM

Gee, it doesn’t seem to be resonating with anyone other than the OFA trolls. Hows that flailing going for you? I’ve been doing it for 6 years and it’s hell on your back but now that it’s on you…

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 8:03 PM

Man you two are dumber than fence posts.

Lay on the floor kick your feet, flail your arms and scream. That’ll do it.

The GOP cannot be trusted, and a GOP wave won’t accomplish anything, except an Amnesty.

The only reason we don’t have amnesty is the GOP. Are you a member of numbersUSA? Of course you aren’t, you would rather whine than do anything about it.

The only path through this is to keep the GOP strong enough to stop any legislation…

By deliberately losing seats… you call me dumb.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 8:07 PM

mypalfish on September 8, 2014 at 9:45 PM

I’ll be really disappointed if Walker loses.

cat_owner on September 9, 2014 at 8:13 PM

I keep saying the same thing over & over… You want No Amnesty, Decreased Spending, Opposition to Obama, NONE OF WHICH WILL OCCUR WITH GRIMES IN OFFICE, but you are voting Grimes..please walk me thru that “logic.”
I’ve read “The Prince” it is a book about POWER & how the world IS, & how to deal with the world as it is, how to acquire power & maintain power in the world as it is…& I think Nicole Machiavelli would look @ you like a Two-Headed Monkey when you explain your “plan” to him, advance your cause by losing, by electing someone who is NOT going to do what you want…

But feel free to quote the relevant parts of The Prince you think support your case.

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 8:39 PM

By deliberately losing seats… you call me dumb.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 8:07 PM

Yes, you are the same type of stupid that got the country where it is right now. The fact that you think more of the same is going to fix the problem perfectly illustrates that point. The GOP has to be carefully managed while it’s either co-opted or replaced. They aren’t on your side, they aren’t your team.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 8:42 PM

So more of the same, you mean like Allison Lundergan GRIMES, right? So by supporting more of the same, we get something DIFERENT, & “we’re” stoopit?

My Brain Hurts.

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 9:01 PM

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 8:39 PM

Lets try this again as simply as possible. The GOP no longer has my vote. They must now purchase it, except they don’t believe that. They need to be shown the new dynamic, but care must be taken. You don’t want to end up with a Democrat majority in the House and a super majority in the Senate. The GOP must be left strong enough and motivated enough to oppose the Democrats, but repeatedly slapped on the nose with a newspaper till they understand.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 9:04 PM

Oh DFCtomm you sound so much like one of McNamara’s wunderkind….so we shall “signal” shall we?

How about this, YOU vote for Grimes… the GOP figures to get your vote the Republican Challenger needs to Out-Grimes, GRIMES…HELLLOOOOO you voted for Grimes! The OBVIOUS conclusion to the GOP is that you wanted GRIMES!

So to get rid of Democratic Policies, you are voting for a DEMOCRAT who will support those policies, in the belief that the GOP will understand that you really don’t want those policies at all?!?!?!

MY BRAIN HURTS, but YOU are the Smart One….OK.

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM

Let’s keep this simple as possible DFCtomm, how about if you vote for McConnell, not the person who’s policies are diametrically opposed to your own.

THEN, you & yours look hi & lo for a better candidate in 2022? H3ll, McConnell may retire in that year, leaving the way open for a challenger! You get 6 years to find your perfect candidate or at least your Good Enough Candidate?

See simple, you find someone that can beat McConnell, who agrees with your positions MORE, rather voting against McConnell (who’s going to win without you) & then complaining about the person you voted for 85% of the time for the next 6 years?

See simple, it’s called WIN THE PRIMARY.

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 9:20 PM

As I see it WHINO’s like DFCtomm are NO different than the Lugar’s of the world… THEY didn’t win the primary so they’ve decided they are just going to pout… that’s what this is, Matt Bevin didn’t get enough votes & that Stink Ole Meanie-Head McConnell did so DFCtomm & Midas are going to show HIM… they’ll vote for the Democrat!

The Republicans will miss you when you’re gone…

It must be hard to type with your lip stuck out so far that it’s on the key board, DFCtomm.

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 9:27 PM

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 8:42 PM

Yes, you are the same type of stupid that got the country where it is right now.

In 2008 and 2012 I rented a van, drove to the battleground state that I am still registered in got the voters list and lured senior citizens away from their Matlock re-runs with promises of tapioca pudding to keep Obama out. I’ve donated thousands to conservative candidates, sent thousands of e-mails, letters, made hundreds of phone calls and donated time and effort to conservative causes and candidates.
And your big solution is to lose to socialists so you wont have to get off your ass. Nope. I don’t buy your assessment.

The fact that you think more of the same is going to fix the problem perfectly illustrates that poin

How do you know what I think, did you ask? What I think is that the way out of this is to work for, fund and vote for the most conservative, electable candidate and then work to hold them accountable. When has that been tried? If that hasn’t been tried how is it more of the same?

The GOP has to be carefully managed while it’s either co-opted or replaced.

By losing elections to the socialists who have proven to be catastrophic for this country. They have proven to be an outright disaster over the past 8 years, yet you want to keep them in power to teach someone a lesson or something. Learn the lesson yourself. It didn’t work, it will never work. You build with the bricks you have.

They aren’t on your side, they aren’t your team.

They are 80% of the time, which means I have to fight them 20% of the time. Maybe If I’m lucky I’ll get another 10% out of them. It’s a hell of a lot better than having to fight someone 100% of the time, and being written off as a bitter gun clinging racist, no?
Or are you afraid of the 20% fight? Seems so.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 9:32 PM

See simple, it’s called WIN THE PRIMARY.

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 9:20 PM

LOL, That takes work and somehow that became a non starter for these supposed conservatives, amazingly.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 9:36 PM

In 2008 and 2012 I rented a van, drove to the battleground state that I am still registered in got the voters list and lured senior citizens away from their Matlock re-runs with promises of tapioca pudding to keep Obama out. I’ve donated thousands to conservative candidates, sent thousands of e-mails, letters, made hundreds of phone calls and donated time and effort to conservative causes and candidates.
And your big solution is to lose to socialists so you wont have to get off your ass. Nope. I don’t buy your assessment.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 9:32 PM

And yet here we are. I can think of three former Republicans in my circle of people and when asked why they no longer vote GOP they don’t have an answer. It wasn’t because you weren’t there in a van to drive them to the polls. That was where the real fight was, and we lost it.

Because you were in a van somewhere screwing off. I’m only joking about the van. It was a great effort, futile, but great.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 9:43 PM

As I see it WHINO’s like DFCtomm are NO different than the Lugar’s of the world… THEY didn’t win the primary so they’ve decided they are just going to pout… that’s what this is, Matt Bevin didn’t get enough votes & that Stink Ole Meanie-Head McConnell did so DFCtomm & Midas are going to show HIM… they’ll vote for the Democrat!

The Republicans will miss you when you’re gone…

It must be hard to type with your lip stuck out so far that it’s on the key board, DFCtomm.

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 9:27 PM

And your strategy for reining in a wayward party is to……vote for them. Yeah that will get their attention all right.

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 9:45 PM

DFCtomm on September 9, 2014 at 9:43 PM

And yet here we are.

And here we are. My fault, I ran out of butterscotch pudding before “Murder she Wrote” came on and they told me to go pound sand.

We are seriously out of time to be teaching people lessons, especially since no one ever learns anything from anything.

V7_Sport on September 9, 2014 at 10:25 PM

The Republicans will miss you when you’re gone…

It must be hard to type with your lip stuck out so far that it’s on the key board, DFCtomm.

JFKY on September 9, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Judging by the 2012 election results I would say that’s an accurate statement. So the Whigs strategy is to insult the base?

Brock Robamney on September 10, 2014 at 6:41 AM

Just imagine WV, SD, MT, AR, NC, LA, AK, CO, NH, IA and MI going red. Conservatives could sit home in MI and give Childers a win over senile-placeholder-for-Barbour Cochran, and the GOP would still win 10 seats, while McConnell would win reelection, though Ted Cruz would become Senate Majority Leader.

ezspirit on September 10, 2014 at 9:19 AM

Sorry, MS not MI, obviously I meant Mississippi. I think Land will win in Michigan.

ezspirit on September 10, 2014 at 9:20 AM

The media wont give any free advertising to this Candidate for Senate from Massachusetts. Brian Herr, mostly known for his work with the Dana Farber Jimmy Fund, Marathon Runner. A nice man, a local political guy in his hometown, and a republican. What mean thing do you think they can say about him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYM-VxjgOc&list=UUpmqCWPAABdXk6Gzi15-xiA&index=2

And today the campaign in MA begins with this ad

“Amnesty is not a Policy.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgFcaqlIa8o

Fleuries on September 10, 2014 at 1:31 PM

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