Poll: Plurality of Democrats doubt that Obama has a clear plan for ISIS and Ukraine

posted at 6:01 pm on September 4, 2014 by Allahpundit

In case you were wondering why that new Gallup number is what it is.

Actually, a near-majority of Dems supports his handling of ISIS and Ukraine anyway. Partisanship is a magical tonic, my friends.

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Forty-nine percent of Democrats approve of how he’s handling the crises versus just 24 percent who disapprove. Among the overall population, that split is 30/46. But even that sliver of good news from his base contains some bad news for O. Just a week ago, fully 61 percent of Dems supported his handling of ISIS and Ukraine. What explains that double-digit drop? Doubtless it’s partly due to a shift in perception of O’s competence after his “we don’t have a strategy yet” soundbite broke big. It could also be, though, that Democrats are getting cold feet about a new Iraq war as airstrikes ramp up and more U.S. troops quietly re-enter the theater. Check out this partisan split when people are asked whether the U.S. needs to destroy ISIS or if it should be left to Iraqis:

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This one’s not as dramatic but still revealing:

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It’s going to take an unusual show of resolve from The One to go after ISIS with his base already wavering and the conservative opposition immovably anti-Obama despite their support for military action. If he ramps up and the U.S. starts taking sporadic casualties, he might see Democratic support start to crumble and then suddenly his job approval’s under 40 percent and Dem incumbents are sitting ducks in November. If only for that reason, it’s hard to believe there’ll be any escalation against ISIS before the midterms. In the meantime, the White House can try to build public confidence by reeling in some of the group’s big fish. They’re already pretty close to the biggest one of all.

Exit question: Should Congress wait until Obama formally requests a new AUMF to go after ISIS or should it pass one on its own initiative? Purely as a civic matter, I like Frank Wolf’s impulse here. Wars shouldn’t begin with the president petitioning Congress to let him attack; if there’s broad support among the people for confronting an enemy, let their representatives take the lead. My only reservation is that passing a bill would let Obama off the hook somewhat in his refusal to comply with the War Powers Act. He ignored the law in the case of Libya. It shouldn’t be too much to ask for him to mend his ways now and acknowledge that he needs Congress’s approval to strike.


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Until his Blackberry (can we say that?) buzzes, Obama doesn’t have a clear plan beyond the next 5-10 minutes.

BobMbx on September 4, 2014 at 6:05 PM

Apparently, weedisgood(forturningmeintoauselesspothead), doesn’t know what “plurality” means.

CurtZHP on September 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM

They’re already pretty close to the biggest one of all.

After all, when Obama single-handedly killed Osama bin Laden, all of our worries about Al Qaeda simply disappeared.

Resist We Much on September 4, 2014 at 6:09 PM

If only for that reason, it’s hard to believe there’ll be any escalation against ISIS before the midterms.

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No, there’s another reason you should pay highlight:

Something Else: 9%…… 9% …… 8% ….. 11%

Something Else?????

EVERYONE should be ashamed of that line since it indicates there are full blown IDIOTS across the political spectrum.

It also probably indicates the SCOAMF’s lowest possible support number to be 28%.

PolAgnostic on September 4, 2014 at 6:09 PM

It shouldn’t be too much to ask for him to mend his ways now and acknowledge that he needs Congress’s approval to strike.

What are you, a racist? He won. If our Peace Prize winner in Chief wants to play the hokey pokey with ground troops in Iraq, who are we mere mortals, or the representatives of mortals to question Him?

trubble on September 4, 2014 at 6:10 PM

About 20% of Democrats that think he has a plan when he admits that he doesn’t are … what? I don’t know how to describe, even qualitatively, that level of delusion.

besser tot als rot on September 4, 2014 at 6:11 PM

FWIW…


Is This the World’s Next Major Terror Threat That Could ‘Explode Any Day’? (And It’s Not the Islamic State)

Nigerian terror group Boko Haram has intensified its murderous rampage, reportedly beheading men, forcing women to marry terrorists and taking over Christian churches in an area it claims to have captured and put under a caliphate.

As the group’ becomes increasingly more violent, Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-Fla.) is sounding the alarm that Boko Haram could “explode any day” and become a more serious world danger similar to the Islamic State, a terror group operating in Iraq and Syria.

“Boko Haram’s attacks on the people of Nigeria have become more vicious. Their wicked deeds are devastating men, women and children, Christians and Muslims. Everyone is a target for Boko Haram,” Wilson told PJ Media this week. “Boko Haram has the potential to explode any day, like [the Islamic State]. Now we have a major international crisis to deal with in Iraq. The international community must not let this terror continue.”

Resist We Much on September 4, 2014 at 6:13 PM

We need more polls.

We need satellite imagery put up on the internet and people polled to see which potential target should get a missile strike.

We need tactical maps put up on the ‘net and people polled to see which target we should attack and how the attack should be routed, and what units should make up the attacking force, and when the force should be launched.

We need polls to see what new weapons systems should be developed, and we need polls to see what level of spending should go to which military units.

We need polls to oversee the CIA and other intelligence gathering agencies.

We live in a democracy, and the people have a right for their voice to be heard.

So more polls please.

Joseph OHenry on September 4, 2014 at 6:13 PM

Just a note on the poll.

10% of the poll results are missing.

The first question shows a total of 999 responses. However, the breakout numbers only add to 914. 85 responses (fully 10%) are missing.

In the second question, n = 1000, yet there are the same number of responses in the first question (914), which means 86 responses are missing.

If these missing responses are accounted for by “no response” or “other”, then n cannot equal the total polled, only the total who responded because “no response” is not listed a response.

BobMbx on September 4, 2014 at 6:17 PM

Agree Allah obama needs to ask congress

cmsinaz on September 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM

Clearly a plurality of Democrats are racist.

Star Bird on September 4, 2014 at 6:20 PM

The silver lining for Democrats, if there is one, is that his approval’s not in freefall.

Actually the silver lining for dems is the right apparently learned nothing from their 2012 fiasco and continues to cherry pick individual polls that tell them what they want to hear instead of looking at the poll aggregations which help smooth out outliers.

Why do you insist on lying to yourselves this way?

Tlaloc on September 4, 2014 at 5:11 PM

Schadenfreude on September 4, 2014 at 6:20 PM

Boy but I wish they would ask those who approve of how he’s handling these issues to briefly summarize what he is doing and why they approve.
Comedy gold that would be!

redshirt on September 4, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Mr Redistribution can’t handle foreign policy.

Oil Can on September 4, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Exit question: Should Congress wait until Obama formally requests a new AUMF to go after ISIS or should it pass one on its own initiative?

Which path nueters Obama the most politically?

He’s probably the biggest threat to our national interest so a sound strategy would be to do whatever it takes to rend him (even more) irrelevant.

aquaviva on September 4, 2014 at 6:23 PM

“Conduct air strikes against Islamist militants in Iraq” DEM – 42%
“Conduct drone strikes against Islamist militants in Iraq” DEM – 40%

So, you replace the word “air” in “air strike” for “drone” and suddenly, two percent fewer Democrats support the initiative? Wow, those 2% must be among the dumber parts of the Democrat base. And drone strikes are more targeted, anyway. You’d think a less likelihood for collateral damage would garner Democrat support, but nope.

Aizen on September 4, 2014 at 6:26 PM

Obama’s plan is to send more FBI agents to Ferguson and any other place there are white cops and to import more millions of third worlders to America’s towns and cities thus rendering ISIS and Ukraine irrelevant. So don’t say he doesn’t have a plan.

VorDaj on September 4, 2014 at 6:29 PM

You. Dot. Gov.

Voluntary internet poll AKA useless information from idiots with plenty of time on their hands.

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Dolce Far Niente on September 4, 2014 at 6:30 PM

After Katrina, I had the integrity to turn away from supporting GWB. I was angry and horrified at those images of our fellow Americans on roof tops begging for help.

Democrats know only one thing: Party Loyalty.

As a Conservative, at least I had to stones to turn against GWB when there was clear and convincing evidence that he had failed on different fronts. I still blame the catastrophe of Katrina in NOLA on its dem leadership, but the “heckuva job” comment was enough to make me cringe.

Democrats=Communists. March, follow, tow the party line, no matter where it leads America.

Key West Reader on September 4, 2014 at 6:33 PM

Mr Redistribution can’t handle foreign policy.

Oil Can on September 4, 2014 at 6:21 PM

Obama = Al Sharpton in an Armani suit.

/I’d like to see him reduced to a gaymale thong bathing suit, or better yet in an orange jumpsuit with a mug shot.

He’s a derelict. And he has been proven to be derelict in his duties. Impeach him

Key West Reader on September 4, 2014 at 6:36 PM

In other news, plurality of Democrats will support Obama no matter how big of an incompetent, Affirmative Actin hire he continues to prove to be.

MMK on September 4, 2014 at 6:37 PM

Affirmative Action Community Organizer doesn’t have a clue?
And Joke Biden says, “Take back America.”

I think it was Winston Churchill who said something to the effect that ‘If you need any doubt about the futility of democracy, just engage the average voter in a 5 minute conversation on any topic.’
The Gimmedats with their Lap Dogs in the LSM have 60 days to prove once more just how gullible and stupid American voters are.
I’ll predict that ‘Stupid Americans’ will (sadly) rise to the occasion.

Missilengr on September 4, 2014 at 6:39 PM

The question is not whether he has a strategy, but rather will his strategy be in the best interests of the United States and the western world?

albill on September 4, 2014 at 6:40 PM

The question is not whether he has a strategy, but rather will his strategy be in the best interests of the United States and the western world?

albill on September 4, 2014 at 6:40 PM

IMHO, he is aiding and abetting his brethren with their worldwide conquest, including the USA. ISIS has been confirmed to be in El Paso Texas.

Obama opened the borders. Obama cannot account for over 36k in illegal immigant “children”, much of them sporting gray hair.

Key West Reader on September 4, 2014 at 6:44 PM

God I’m glad I’m not in the military right now and pray for those who are…this with bumbling, slimy goof as CINC, we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t. I want ISIS destroyed, but this clown we have as President is more likely to just get a bunch of our finest killed before cowardly giving up and slinking back to the golf course (actually, he’ll probably never leave the golf course for the rest of his term, no matter what happens over there).

AUINSC on September 4, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Yeppers, it appears to be going in that direction…

Breaking: Man Arrested After Beheading Woman In London (UPDATED)

Resist We Much on September 4, 2014 at 7:03 PM

How the hell does that make any sense ?

Only 21 and 23% think he has a strategy for dealing with Russia or ISIS, yet 49% still approve of his handling of things ? WTF is that ?

Why bother even opining about whether he has a strategy or not when you’re going approve of how he handles things, regardless?!

F’in Democrats. More important to have a unified front, even though that unified front is behind an utter incompetent, over his head and out of his element with no idea what he’s doing nor any interest in GETTING an idea.

deadrody on September 4, 2014 at 7:20 PM

Well, at least the number is shifting.

There is some hope, perhaps.

formwiz on September 4, 2014 at 7:27 PM

I bet a plurality don’t give a flying flip either.

Cindy Munford on September 4, 2014 at 7:47 PM

Also interesting that this poll’s sample was 35% Democrats and only 24% Republicans. A sample more representative of the electorate (more Republicans and less Independents) would have majority support for airstrikes and drone strikes in Iraq, and nearly majority support for airstrikes in Syria.

Obomber isn’t on the ballot this year, but will Democrats who are suffer for his indecision?

It’s also strange that there’s huge support among Republicans that “US must destroy ISIS”, but only 28% want ground troops in Iraq. Do people think the US can destroy ISIS only from the air? If ISIS fighters are in vehicles (tanks or trucks) in the desert, they can be bombed, but how can we dislodge them from cities without ground troops? If we bombed cities, how can we know which buildings contain ISIS fighters and bomb them without killing unarmed civilians?

Also, why didn’t the poll ask whether we should arm the Kurds and let THEM fight ISIS on the ground?

Steve Z on September 4, 2014 at 7:50 PM

This is a very interesting poll Allah.. thanks for the analysis. I would be curious to see the deltas if a larger sample was used and I am sure those polls are being conducted as I write this.

lexhamfox on September 4, 2014 at 10:54 PM

Comrade O makes Neville Chamberlain look like an aggressive warlord with a backbone of steel.

Even Chamberlain had a plan and a strategy. As naive and foolish as it was appeasement was a deliberate policy with a purpose and expected result — appease the bad guy and he’ll be sated.

Comrade O, The Clueless, has nothing.

farsighted on September 4, 2014 at 11:46 PM