The obligatory “celebrity nudes hacked” post

posted at 4:41 pm on September 2, 2014 by Allahpundit

There’s nothing original to say at this point, but that was also true within five minutes after the story broke. Most of the lessons are obvious.

1. It’s an awful, indefensible invasion of privacy. Everyone agrees with this.

2. Even though everyone agrees, many of us will look at the photos anyway, some lasciviously and some (me included) just to see what the online fuss is about. The marginal cost of each extra pair of eyeballs is basically zero once the photos are public, or so we tell ourselves to rationalize our curiosity. But Jessica Valenti is right: Each new viewer contributes, however marginally, to the violation.

3. It couldn’t have happened if the photos didn’t exist. This is the main point of contention in the aftermath: Aren’t you blaming the victims if you note that? I like Tim Carney’s reply:

I’m not sure that analogy is perfect — a better analogy would be protecting your car from theft by not buying a car at all, no? — but you take his point. Blaming the victim would mean believing that Jennifer Lawrence or Kate Upton somehow “had it coming,” or that their willingness to take nude photos should mitigate the hackers’ punishment. No one believes either of those things — I hope. The point here, simply, is that in an age of ubiquitous hacking, the only way to guarantee that nude photos of you don’t wind up online is not to create any. It’s sad that that’s true, but unless you have a plan to keep the world’s amoral computer geniuses from accessing the Internet, it’s a fact of life. And of course, all the finger-wagging this week about blaming the victim notwithstanding, it’s a lesson most celebrities will internalize going forward. The number of nude celebrity selfies taken over the next few weeks or months in Hollywood will be down by a solid 99 percent, I’d bet.

One way to emphasize that the victim is blameless in taking a nude selfie would be to tweak the law so that the more intimate a photo is, the sterner the punishment is for hacking it. Afford extra legal protection for sexual pics — which are the ones hackers want — and you signal that the state will go to extra deterrent lengths to protect your right to take those photos without intrusion. (Have at it, First Amendment lawyers.)

4. Public disgust at privacy violations waxes and wanes depending upon how beloved the target is. Right? I saw more than one comment on Twitter after the photos started circulating to the effect that it’d be hard to imagine a similar uproar if pics of Kim Kardashian had been hacked instead. The public respects Jennifer Lawrence much, much more than it does Kardashian for many reasons — her talent as an actress, her down-to-earth charm in interviews, and the fact that, the occasional magazine photo shoot aside, she doesn’t cultivate a hyper-sexual image. Sonny Bunch is right that there’s an impulse in American life to dehumanize celebrities, but that’s partly because many of them lend themselves to easy dehumanization. Lawrence doesn’t so the violation feels more acute. But if we’re being serious about privacy for the sake of privacy, we should be just as outraged at a Kardashian hack. If someone takes a photo they don’t want you to see, no matter how low your opinion of that someone, you have no right to see it — or rather, you shouldn’t. Reality, as usual, is more complicated.


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The obligatory “celebrity nudes hacked” post

10 headlines later…

nobar on September 2, 2014 at 4:44 PM

What is the purpose of a photograph?

BobMbx on September 2, 2014 at 4:44 PM

I am learned my lesson not to check what’s trending on Twitter. Twitter doesn’t have a filter.

Ugh.

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 4:44 PM

One wonders why these celebrities took nude selfies in the first place….

sorrowen on September 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM

10 headlines later…

nobar on September 2, 2014 at 4:44 PM

He spent that time looking for and at the pictures.

BobMbx on September 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Advising them to stop taking nude photos is terrible, terrible advice. Don’t listen, ladies!

John the Libertarian on September 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM

This has never happened before. WHo would have ever thought it could happen?

tdarrington on September 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM

I looked because I wanted to see her boobs.
Does that make me bad?

ShadrachSmith on September 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM

One wonders why these celebrities took nude selfies in the first place….

sorrowen on September 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM

Playboy is an equal opportunity employer.

nobar on September 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM

The public respects Jennifer Lawrence much, much more than it does Kardashian for many reasons

JLaw didn’t become famous for a homemade porn video.

myiq2xu on September 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM

These photos are the property of the celebs, right? They should demand exorbitant distribution fees from all the hosts.

grahampowell on September 2, 2014 at 4:47 PM

The Winningest comment from earlier:

Good: Paying to see celebrities nude at the theater

Bad: Seeing them nude for free

BobMbx on September 2, 2014 at 10:43 AM

nobar on September 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM

believing that Jennifer Lawrence or Kate Upton somehow “had it coming,” or that their willingness to take nude photos should mitigate the hackers’ punishment. No one believes either of those things — I hope

Prepare to be disappointed. If you do something stupid, don’t be surprised if it comes back to bite you in the ass. Yes, hacking is illegal, but the government also can’t save you from your own stupidity. As you say:

the only way to guarantee that nude photos of you don’t wind up online is not to create any

…which is by-and-large true, except of course for voyeurism.

Stoic Patriot on September 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM

It seems now if you try to learn a lesson from these incidents i.e., don’t take nude photos and put them on an app that connects to the internet- then you are victim blaming.

It sucks that I have to lock my doors to keep out robbers. I shouldn’t have to, but if I get robbed with an unlocked door– Shame on me!

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM

BTW – hacking is not the only way that nude pics and porn videos end up on the internet. Disgruntled exes and untrustworthy friends/employees have been known to leak them too.

myiq2xu on September 2, 2014 at 4:49 PM

“celebrity nudes hacked”

Allah, unless you have a link to said celeb photos I call bullshit on it all.

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 4:49 PM

The number of nude celebrity selfies taken over the next few weeks or months in Hollywood will be down by a solid 99 percent, I’d bet.

more like up 200 percent with them being tagged hack me, hack me. That’s what self-centered people do.

RickB on September 2, 2014 at 4:49 PM

Please Note: The Whoopi Goldberg icloud account was not hacked.

Oil Can on September 2, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Lost an hour when I stumbled on that at AoS on Sunday.

DanMan on September 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM

I don’t have to worry about my nude pictures being hacked or sent to a pr0n site by an ex because there are no nude pictures of me. Something for which the world is relieved.

rbj on September 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Well with the Kim Kardashian comparison……she says the tape was leaked and it was private as well.

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM

What part of Kate Upton not shown already?? Same with all these chicks most have posed in MAXIAM at the very least…

sorrowen on September 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM

It’s pretty amazing how ordinary celebs look without makeup.

dforston on September 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Why is Jennifer getting all the attention when you had a Supermodel Bar Rafaeli who reportedly was spreading her backdoor? I’ve had it with this topic and I don’t care and as Marge Simpson told Madonna in her luggage bag as they were transporting her back to the US for the Queen: “Good girls don’t pump gas naked!!”

Marcus on September 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM

It’s very easy to get your photos backed up to iCloud, even without you knowing.

First, iPhones and iPads and iPods now, I believe, have iCloud back up turned on by default.

Second, every time you get a new device or change devices and sync to a new one, you need to remember to disable the cloud.

I use several Apple devices and choose not to do cloud backups and am familiar with how to disable the cloud and I still have forgotten to disable the cloud backup at times. It’s a very easy mistake to make.

I think some of the people commenting here just like to post about how much better than these so-called “Hollyweird” celebrities they think you are, but chances are they could make the same mistake with cloud backups, even if they hadn’t taken those kinds of pictures.

How many of you have purchased items with credit cards? Those systems can be hacked. Are you foolish for having put your trust in them? Emails can be hacked. Phone calls can be recorded.

These actresses learned a hard lesson about cloud backups, but I sympathize with them because I know how easy it is to back up to cloud without you even realizing it.
Also, some people putting down the actresses for taking nude selfies are just a bunch of jealous fuddy duddies. There’s nothing wrong with taking such private pictures, and not all of those actresses who were hacked had appeared nude in films before.

These actresses ARE victims, even if they now realize they should have been more careful, and the real culprits are the hackers.

I want to know if the hackers got the Apple ID passwords through a phishing scene or if there really was a (reportedly now fixed) weakness with the “find my iPhone” feature that allowed “brute” hacks into private iCloud accounts. Apple has some explaining to do! As a big Apple user, this concerns me.

bluegill on September 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM

“It’s an awful, indefensible invasion of privacy. Everyone agrees with this.”

We do?

If you’re dumb enough to put that kind of pic in any kind of public space, you can’t be surprised when some slob figures out how to get to it.

Puzzles are made to be solved, after all.

formwiz on September 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM

What part of Kate Upton not shown already?? Same with all these chicks most have posed in MAXIAM at the very least…

sorrowen on September 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM

touche

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

What part of Kate Upton not shown already?? Same with all these chicks most have posed in MAXIAM at the very least…

sorrowen on September 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM

Everything but the nip. ;)

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

It seems now if you try to learn a lesson from these incidents i.e., don’t take nude photos and put them on an app that connects to the internet- then you are victim blaming.

It sucks that I have to lock my doors to keep out robbers. I shouldn’t have to, but if I get robbed with an unlocked door– Shame on me!

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM

people should be able to take whatever pictures they want without the fear of a creep stealing them.
Either you are for privacy laws or you aren’t.

weedisgood on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

I’ve been trying to find these for days. Anyone got a link?

Anyway, we’ve already seen these two stupid b*tches nude anyway.

WhatSlushfund on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Where’s the “links”? … A story like this, without links, is worth … what ?

listens2glenn on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

If you’re dumb enough to put that kind of pic in any kind of public space

That’s the thing it wasn’t public space……it was their personal photos that were located on their phone, ipad, computer…..wherever they stored it.

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 4:54 PM

bluegill on September 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM

The lesson is – Don’t take nude photos if you don’t want them on the internet. People cannot control other’s behavior, only their own. If you have privacy concerns, don’t do anything to jeopardize that privacy.

Again, it sucks but that is the reality. If I don’t lock my car doors and leave the keys in it; am I victim blaming when I say “gosh, I was stupid when it was stolen?”

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:55 PM

“My blood runs cold, my Memories have just been sold,
My Angel is a CENTERFOLD..

…NANANANANNANANA, my Angel is a Centerfold!”

Thanks, J. Geils band.

ToddPA on September 2, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Go watch the Erin Andrews video and tell me she didn’t KNOW she was being filmed… Most successful “illicit” nude video publicity stunt in history.

ConstantineXI on September 2, 2014 at 10:10 AM

you’re an idiot. the pervert was sentenced to 2 1/2 years in prison.

dbilly76 on September 2, 2014 at 10:50 AM

dbilly76 on September 2, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Kate Upton has shown nip…look in tumblr or Pinterest. At least some celebs like Eva Green have been seen naked already in her case multiple times. Also the celebs calling their nudes fake aren’t they asking to be hacked??

sorrowen on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

There’s really only one question about any of this: Who has links to the photos? Enquiring minds want to know.

TXUS on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

If you’re dumb enough to put that kind of pic in any kind of public space, you can’t be surprised when some slob figures out how to get to it.
Puzzles are made to be solved, after all.
formwiz on September 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM

You seem confused about what the iCloud is. It’s not a “public space.” So the whole foundation of your comment is wrong.

The hacking here is akin to thieves disabling a house security system and stealing the jewels inside. And you would apparently blame the homeowners for the act of having valuable items inside that people would want to steal.

You are blaming the victim.

bluegill on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

The hacker claimed he had over 100 female stars’ nude photos. Kim K was on the list.

UnstChem on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Please Note: The Whoopi Goldberg icloud account was not hacked.

Oil Can on September 2, 2014 at 4:50 PM

Nice!

ToddPA on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

people should be able to take whatever pictures they want without the fear of a creep stealing them.
Either you are for privacy laws or you aren’t.

weedisgood on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

If that is the unrealistic expectation that is necessary for privacy laws, then no thank you.

Unless you are prepared to go “tough on crime”, that is. But I’ve seen your posts on the subject…

nobar on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

They’re foolish for not using Apple’s two factor authentication. Not saying anybody deserves to have their account broken into, but I do lock my car and home.

Fenris on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

As an aside, I find Jennifer Lawrence annoying as hell. How the hell did this talentless phony become famous?

Kate Upton is another story. She is a goddess. Totally my type.

Believe it or not, I’ve actually banged girls that hot. I’d go out tonight and try to do it again, but I’m having money problems. Oh well.

WhatSlushfund on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Only interest I have in this story…isn’t this something of a black eye for Apple?

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

1. It’s an awful, indefensible invasion of privacy. Everyone agrees with this.

I’m not everyone. I don’t agree.

vityas on September 2, 2014 at 4:57 PM

people should be able to take whatever pictures they want without the fear of a creep stealing them.
Either you are for privacy laws or you aren’t.

weedisgood on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Again, you are living with how things should be.. Not how they are.

The reality is that there isn’t any privacy. Should there be laws; there already is. A victim has a responsibility to mitigate their risks. It doesn’t mean they weren’t a victim; it just means they took risks and now what could happen-did.

I have a daughter.. And the lesson is “there is bad people out there who don’t protect privacy; so don’t take anything in hard copy that you don’t want to make rounds on the internet.”

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:57 PM

They’re foolish for not using Apple’s two factor authentication. Not saying anybody deserves to have their account broken into, but I do lock my car and home.

Fenris on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Bingo!

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:57 PM

WhatSlushfund on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

Thanks for that information dude.

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Even though everyone agrees, many of us will look at the photos anyway, some lasciviously and some (me included) just to see what the online fuss is about

Ahem….in the name of “journalism”…? Terrible what bloggers go through.

d1carter on September 2, 2014 at 4:58 PM

So NSA on the job or are they still harassing TEA partiers ?

burrata on September 2, 2014 at 4:58 PM

“C’mon don’t act like you don’t like it.”
-The Simpsons

mjbrooks3 on September 2, 2014 at 4:58 PM

Anyone stupid enough to put nude pic’s on a cloud server…

oscarwilde on September 2, 2014 at 4:58 PM

I’m not outraged at all. Deal with it. The hacker is going to be punished. But that is not enough for you and Ace who are so obviously trying to impress Valenti. Don’t worry — she still won’t like you. lol! Some how this is an issue but women and girls in cages being sold into slavery, kidnapped, and school girls being gang raped are on the back burner to Lawrence’s right to keep video on her phone of her giving BJS. She needs better taste in men, by the way.

Blake on September 2, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Also note that JLaw has lost her phone before.

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 5:00 PM

To be honest, my opinion of Hollywood people is so low that when I see

The obligatory “celebrity nudes hacked” post

a little part of me hopes for a Charlie Manson type story.

And if these same celebrites, who constantly whine about their privacy being invaded while at the same time paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to publicists, are somehow unaware of the recent Murdoch empire phone-hacking scandal in the UK, and are dumb enough to have shots of themselves nude on their phones, well …

… boo-f***ing-hoo.

M240H on September 2, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Questions to violated person:

1) Do you keep your social security number and bank account numbers in the cloud?

2) Why?

The answer to number 2 will tell you all you need to know.

BobMbx on September 2, 2014 at 5:00 PM

Again, it sucks but that is the reality. If I don’t lock my car doors and leave the keys in it; am I victim blaming when I say “gosh, I was stupid when it was stolen?”

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:55 PM

If you place any of the blame upon yourself for what an abuser, in this case a thief, has done to you, yes, you are guilty of victim-blaming.

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:01 PM

I don’t see the logic of taking nude photo’s on a iphone which saves them
To the cloud then being shocked they were hacked….

sorrowen on September 2, 2014 at 5:01 PM

people should be able to take whatever pictures they want without the fear of a creep stealing them.

weedisgood on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

People should be able to do all the weed they want without it negatively affecting their brain. The world is a cruel place.

Either you are for privacy laws or you aren’t.

melle didn’t say that she was against privacy laws and she didn’t say that she was against theft laws in her own example.

corkie on September 2, 2014 at 5:01 PM

I don’t look at most of these people IN clothes, why would I want to see their junk uncovered?

Why are they denying it came from the cloud? They’ve been touting this cloud crap for a few years now, and I always knew it was inevitable that it would be hacked, encrypted or not, doesn’t matter. Hacking something like that means they got hold of the encryption, they didn’t decipher it. No matter what the technology, it’s all being run by greedy, sleazy humans.

Nothing of my personal stuff is on any cloud anywhere, and I’d never photograph myself nude. That would be a crime against humanity.

People are STUPID for trusting this ‘cloud’ server BS. You think a dozen different government agencies don’t have access to your crap on the clouds? Heheheheheh, guess again morons.

Diluculo on September 2, 2014 at 5:01 PM

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM

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people should be able to take whatever pictures they want without the fear of a creep stealing them.
Either you are for privacy laws or you aren’t.

weedisgood on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

.
Certain kinds of “privacy” are ‘more private’ that others.

I’m not against them putting digitized nude images of themselves on the “net” . . . . . I’m just CRITICIZING them, for complaining about the images being “hacked”.

I’m also CRITICIZING Federal Law Enforcement for putting resources into the investigating this, while more serious examples of “High Crimes” are being purported within our WHITE HOUSE, and it’s various Departments.

listens2glenn on September 2, 2014 at 5:01 PM

They’re lucky that they’re in the US. A similar thing happened in Hong Kong in 2008. The actresses involved had their careers destroyed.

rw on September 2, 2014 at 5:02 PM

WhatSlushfund on September 2, 2014 at 4:56 PM

I’m in with the Goddess part, but the rest of that post gets this:

?????

BobMbx on September 2, 2014 at 5:02 PM

This story, btw, is why I will never subscribe to services like carbonite and would encourage others to do likewise.

I’ll gladly spend the money to buy hard drives to store anything offline that I don’t want seen or tampered with.

nobar on September 2, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Again, it sucks but that is the reality. If I don’t lock my car doors and leave the keys in it; am I victim blaming when I say “gosh, I was stupid when it was stolen?”

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:55 PM

If you place any of the blame upon yourself for what an abuser, in this case a thief, has done to you, yes, you are guilty of victim-blaming.

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:01 PM

So we should never lock our house or car doors. We should teach our daughter to go walking around at 3:00 a.m. in the dark.. Or to take all the nudies they want. I mean when all of that makes them victims; then we can just blame the bad person.

No risks should be mitigated, because we wouldn’t want anyone to take some personal responsibility or change their OWN conduct to mitigate risks.

You people are really idiots.

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 5:05 PM

If you place any of the blame upon yourself for what an abuser, in this case a thief, has done to you, yes, you are guilty of victim-blaming.

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:01 PM

So, I can start putting all my valuables out in the open without anyone watching, and I can accuse anyone that criticizes me as blaming-the-victim?

corkie on September 2, 2014 at 5:05 PM

weedisgood on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

What part of cloud do you not get? P.S. Change your bong water stoner.

Bmore on September 2, 2014 at 5:06 PM

So, I can start putting all my valuables out in the open without anyone watching, and I can accuse anyone that criticizes me as blaming-the-victim?

corkie on September 2, 2014 at 5:05 PM

Yes, you can moan the fact that you lost your valuables, and when people say “dude, you should have locked up”– you can say “but bad people..”

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

I’ll gladly spend the money to buy hard drives to store anything offline that I don’t want seen or tampered with.

nobar on September 2, 2014 at 5:03 PM

Exactly. 3 terrabyte portable hard drives are running under 200 bucks. I bought two and use one for data, the other for backing up.

Why PAY someone to hold information on you? That’s just asking for it.

Diluculo on September 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

people should be able to take whatever pictures they want without the fear of a creep stealing them.
Either you are for privacy laws or you aren’t.

weedisgood on September 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

Google CEO on Privacy

Google CEO On Privacy (VIDEO): ‘If You Have Something You Don’t Want Anyone To Know, Maybe You Shouldn’t Be Doing It’

So much for the left’s respect for personal privacy. Thanks to the left, no one has any privacy anymore, and they’re not protecting anyone or anything but their profit margin.

thatsafactjack on September 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Well with the Kim Kardashian comparison……she says the tape was leaked and it was private as well.

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM

That was a professionally shot and edited tape. So it wasn’t that private since many people worked on it.

Blake on September 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

So we should never lock our house or car doors. We should teach our daughter to go walking around at 3:00 a.m. in the dark.. Or to take all the nudies they want. I mean when all of that makes them victims; then we can just blame the bad person.

No risks should be mitigated, because we wouldn’t want anyone to take some personal responsibility or change their OWN conduct to mitigate risks.

I didn’t say any of that, did I?

You have an overactive imagination, and it reveals the state of your own (dark & ugly) soul.

You people are really idiots.

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 5:05 PM

You’re guilty of projection, idiot. :)

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

I didn’t say any of that, did I?

You have an overactive imagination, and it reveals the state of your own (dark & ugly) soul.

You did. You said if any of us point out the victim’s mistake EVEN if it at the point of learning from such a mistake; then we are victim blaming.

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 5:09 PM

That was a professionally shot and edited tape. So it wasn’t that private since many people worked on it.

Blake on September 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

It is? I don’t know…..I haven’t seen her tape but I will take your word for it.

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM

I want to know if the hackers got the Apple ID passwords through a phishing scene or if there really was a (reportedly now fixed) weakness with the “find my iPhone” feature that allowed “brute” hacks into private iCloud accounts. Apple has some explaining to do! As a big Apple user, this concerns me.

bluegill on September 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM

Just to repeat what I said on this morning’s 200-plus comment photo hack thread in the headlines, Apple played on the past idea that Macs were less vulnerable to virus/hacks than PC, and allowed people to extrapolate out that all Apple products were somehow impervious from the reaches of prying outsiders. As a result, people who felt safer because they were running OS X or iOS than the other systems ended up with a false sense of security that the iCloud was a place where they could place everything on their computers, phones or iPads and feel secure that no one else would get access.

But anything posted to the Cloud has to balance the benefit of off-site backup in case of some home/office catastrophe, with the fact that if you store your data and photos at a remote mass-storage site, you sacrifice security. Apple’s got a strong enough brand to ride this PR fiasco out, but if another breech occurs down the line, they may have to go back to the iCloud being the optional back-up and backing up to your computer/external hard drive/flash drive the default setting.

jon1979 on September 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM

This whole thing gave me the fantods. Where was the trigger warning, HotAir guys?

Mason on September 2, 2014 at 5:11 PM

It is? I don’t know…..I haven’t seen her tape but I will take your word for it.

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 5:10 PM

It’s gross and fake. It was created to be released which you won’t understand unless you watch it.

Blake on September 2, 2014 at 5:12 PM

So, I can start putting all my valuables out in the open without anyone watching, and I can accuse anyone that criticizes me as blaming-the-victim?

corkie on September 2, 2014 at 5:05 PM

It’s already been established that you aren’t going to really listen to what I have to say, and because if that, it’s more fun for me to watch you make a fool of yourself as you argue with your silly straw men than it is for me to take you seriously enough to bother explaining myself to you. :)

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:12 PM

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Nah, melle got it right. You’re an idiot.

HumpBot Salvation on September 2, 2014 at 5:13 PM

I saw more than one comment on Twitter after the photos started circulating to the effect that it’d be hard to imagine a similar uproar if pics of Kim Kardashian had been hacked instead.

She supposedly was. She was in the list of celebs linked from AoS over the weekend. I only write “supposedly” as I didn’t look at them so can’t confirm the actual pics.

Daily Mail has a story listing 101 female celebrities supposedly hacked. I only recognized the names of about 15 and several of those I did recognize have (reportedly) appeared nude from Playboy, to “leaked” sex tapes to previously leaked photos, etc. that I can recall from news stories over the years.

deepdiver on September 2, 2014 at 5:13 PM

I remember one of my bosses telling me, never put something in an email you don’t mind everyone seeing. I think the same thing applies here, if it is on the internet someone can see it, just ask “Carlos Danger”.

Sven on September 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM

They hacked my phone and this what they found. lol

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 5:15 PM

my galaxy s5 syncs automatically.
to an owncloud instance on my own server.
screw google cloud stuff.

and no, no nudes. thats for the cameras protection as well as ours.

dmacleo on September 2, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Yes, you can moan the fact that you lost your valuables, and when people say “dude, you should have locked up”– you can say “but bad people..” scream, “STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM!”

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Fixed

corkie on September 2, 2014 at 5:16 PM

You did. You said if any of us point out the victim’s mistake EVEN if it at the point of learning from such a mistake; then we are victim blaming.

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 5:09 PM

That is a misrepresentation of what I said & meant.

This is exactly what I said: “If you place any of the blame upon yourself for what an abuser, in this case a thief, has done to you, yes, you are guilty of victim-blaming.”

Like no one in history has ever participated in their own abuse, or failed to properly understand the dynamic between an abuser and an abusee…as I said, you were guilty of projection when you used “idiots” before, and I see your status is still the same. ;)

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM

I hacked into Allahpundit’s cloud and I found one of his baby pictures:

http://goo.gl/IUa5zC

Blake on September 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Another warning….be careful what you write on message board or blog.

terryannonline on September 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM

*Like no one in history hasn’t ever participated in their own abuse

Fixed

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM

btw kardashian was also one of the ones involved this time.
if anyone cares.

dmacleo on September 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM

For too long, the 0.001% has hoarded all the celebrity nudie pics. Its time to end this inequality!

Celebrity nudie pics for the 99%!
/

El_Terrible on September 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM

You did. You said if any of us point out the victim’s mistake EVEN if it at the point of learning from such a mistake; then we are victim blaming.

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 5:09 PM

Your characterization was most certainly covered by her broad claim. I’ve never witnessed anyone make such broad claims and then immediately say that they didn’t make the claim.

corkie on September 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM

Ooops, my bad. Kardashian is not on the Daily Mail list but I was sure she was on the AoS link as I remember wondering why anyone would want to see them. Guess my memory is getting as bad as my wife says ….

deepdiver on September 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM

btw kardashian was also one of the ones involved this time.
if anyone cares.

dmacleo on September 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM

I never understood the fascination with this big butt thunder thighed mope in the first place.

Diluculo on September 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM

These actresses ARE victims, even if they now realize they should have been more careful, and the real culprits are the hackers.

So what if they are victims? We need to quit exalting victimhood. George Will was right. I think people want to be victims to some extent. They learn to love the commiserating and emotional support that are now de rigueur in this namby pamby world we’ve built. You got hacked. Tough s**t. Get over it. Take more care next time. That will be $0.50. Next.

JohnnyL on September 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Nah, melle got it right. You’re an idiot.

HumpBot Salvation on September 2, 2014 at 5:13 PM

You’re guilty of projection too, idiot. :)

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Allahpundit is right. The target of the hacking has a lot to do with what the response to the hacking is.

Remember when Sarah Palin’s emails got hacked? Emails are stored on a server, a cloud, if you will, so was Palin “dumb” for trusting it with her official business? Of course not.

It seems many of you have a different standard depending on who the victim is.

bluegill on September 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM

Afford extra legal protection for sexual pics — which are the ones hackers want — and you signal that the state will go to extra deterrent lengths to protect your right to take those photos without intrusion. (Have at it, First Amendment lawyers.)

Swedish and Chinese hackers won’t give a hoot about American laws.

El_Terrible on September 2, 2014 at 5:20 PM

Again, it sucks but that is the reality. If I don’t lock my car doors and leave the keys in it; am I victim blaming when I say “gosh, I was stupid when it was stolen?”

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 4:55 PM

This analogy is absolutely pathetic. There’s nothing negligent or reckless about storing sensitive information in the cloud. Every big company does this. Pretty much every one writing in this thread has some kind of information about themselves they’d prefer to keep private stored in the cloud, either directly or indirectly via a third party they contract with.

AP’s analogy of not buying a car if you don’t it stolen is the proper one.

joana on September 2, 2014 at 5:21 PM

btw kardashian was also one of the ones involved this time.
if anyone cares.

dmacleo on September 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM

No, we don’t. A bigger item would for her to be dressed tastefully and in clothes that fit her.

Blake on September 2, 2014 at 5:21 PM

That is a misrepresentation of what I said & meant.

This is exactly what I said: “If you place any of the blame upon yourself for what an abuser, in this case a thief, has done to you, yes, you are guilty of victim-blaming.”

Like no one in history has ever participated in their own abuse, or failed to properly understand the dynamic between an abuser and an abusee…as I said, you were guilty of projection when you used “idiots” before, and I see your status is still the same. ;)

Anti-ControI on September 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM

Okay, I’ll bite “what’s your point?” No one is blaming them for the actual hacking. People are saying that they took crazy, stupid risks for people who have paparazzi’s waiting in trees to get a private picture of them.

I get so tired of the term “victim blaming.” It infantilizes a whole generation, especially women. If you say a woman should use a date rape nailpolish- You’re victim blaming. If you say maybe someone shouldn’t get belligerently drunk in a group of people you don’t know “you’re victim blaming.” We have created a whole generation of martyr victims, because it is more okay to be a victim; then proactively mitigate risks.

melle1228 on September 2, 2014 at 5:22 PM

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